This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/oRB.2ACI/159.184.185.1.2 Message Board Post: Dear Gayle, I am in the same boat. My mother started her search 40 years ago and as much as I tried was unable to break the link between Edward Smith Bacon and local Bacon families in New Jersey. However, I was able to find a little more on the Cox side. If you ever want to brain storm, I would be willing. Sincerely, Kathleen Barbee Edward Smith Bacon my great great grandfather also

In a message dated 6/13/2003 9:58:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I have as some of you know been trying to locate my 4th great grandfather > Lorenzo Keen and his wife Mary Dougherty Keen for many years now. Every so > often I get little tibits now and then but not very much. I just searched > the 1830 Census of NJ (Salem, Co. Pilesgrove) and found him listed with a > few extra children. I then decided to check the 1820 Census and NJ is not > available. What happened to the 1820 Census for NJ? > Thank You, > Robin Stinson > Robin- The 1830 census is the earliest available for NJ. Censuses prior to that one have been lost. Joan

Hello, I have as some of you know been trying to locate my 4th great grandfather Lorenzo Keen and his wife Mary Dougherty Keen for many years now. Every so often I get little tibits now and then but not very much. I just searched the 1830 Census of NJ (Salem, Co. Pilesgrove) and found him listed with a few extra children. I then decided to check the 1820 Census and NJ is not available. What happened to the 1820 Census for NJ? Thank You, Robin Stinson

We all have, Robin ....only shysters and hucksters go to bed early ... lol ..... Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin M. Stinson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:27 AM Subject: Re: Meaning of a Word > I've been up to long. > > Robin

I've been up to long. Robin -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:24:08 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: Meaning of a Word In a message dated 6/13/2003 12:19:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I always thought it did. To me it meant it was someone who takes advantage of someone else. I guess you lean something everyday. Thanks, Robin Stinson Robin- I suppose there were good and bad hucksters but they were merely salesmen of a traveling sort. Might you be thinking of shyster? A shyster would be a crooked lawyer. That term carries a bad connotation. Joan

In a message dated 6/13/2003 12:19:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I always thought it did. To me it meant it was someone who takes advantage > of someone else. I guess you lean something everyday. > Thanks, > Robin Stinson > Robin- I suppose there were good and bad hucksters but they were merely salesmen of a traveling sort. Might you be thinking of shyster? A shyster would be a crooked lawyer. That term carries a bad connotation. Joan

I always thought it did. To me it meant it was someone who takes advantage of someone else. I guess you lean something everyday. Thanks, Robin Stinson -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:16:58 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: Meaning of a Word In a message dated 6/13/2003 12:08:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Did it always mean this person was bad by taking advantage of people? I found him listed in the 1910 Census and under #19 of Occupation it had Jail. I guess that answers my question. Robin- Huckster didn't necessarily carry a bad connotation. Joan

In a message dated 6/13/2003 12:08:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Did it always mean this person was bad by taking advantage of people? I > found him listed in the 1910 > Census and under #19 of Occupation it had Jail. I guess that answers my > question. > Robin- Huckster didn't necessarily carry a bad connotation. Joan

Hi, Did it always mean this person was bad by taking advantage of people? I found him listed in the 1910 Census and under #19 of Occupation it had Jail. I guess that answers my question. Robin Stinson -------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:00:00 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: Meaning of a Word In a message dated 6/12/2003 11:58:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi, I just ran across a term used in the 1880 Census of Salem, Nj. Under Occupation it listed one of my relatives as Huckster. I know what the word means today. What did it mean then? Robin- Same thing--someone who sold wares -- usually traveling the streets and selling things from the back of a wagon as they went along. Joan

In a message dated 6/12/2003 11:58:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Hi, > I just ran across a term used in the 1880 Census of Salem, Nj. Under > Occupation it listed one of my relatives as Huckster. I know what the word > means today. What did it mean then? > Robin- Same thing--someone who sold wares -- usually traveling the streets and selling things from the back of a wagon as they went along. Joan

Hi, I just ran across a term used in the 1880 Census of Salem, Nj. Under Occupation it listed one of my relatives as Huckster. I know what the word means today. What did it mean then? Thanks, Robin Stinson

Hi, Wh oare the ones you are looking for. Mine was a Kate Boogar who married a Walter J. Keen of Salem, NJ. They never had any children and they died back in the early to middle 1950"s. I do not know any of her family. Let me know if you find anything. Thanks, Mrs. Robin M. Stinson -------Original Message------- From: Summerday Sands Date: Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:57:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: BOOGAR family of Salem, Gloucester & Camden counties Searching for any info about Harry BOOGAR (d.bef. 1940). He married Gertrude SWEENY (1871 PA -1953 CA) daughter of James SWEENY & my 4G aunt, Elizabeth M'COLLISTER) at my uncle Harry's old house in Swedesboro in 1892. Their son, Harry Earl BOOGAR (1895 NJ - 1958 CA), later moved to California (LA area) and had a daughter, Ella Marion. They kept in touch with my great-grandmother for quite awhile, but after some of the older family members passed away, we lost touch. Looking for parents of Harry Sr. and siblings, wife or other children for Harry Earl. Attn Boogar researchers: I have an adorably posed b&w pic of Ella Marion (age 4, circa 1910) taken around Xmas in a Los Angeles photo studio. I can email a size-reduced scan without much fuss. Any info or insight is much appreciated. Thanks much- summedaysands ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 .

I located Harry Sr. in 1900 and 1910, 1900 in Camden, 1910 in Los Angeles. It gives his birth as Feb. 1868, and place of birth as NJ, as well as both his parents, I can't locate him in 1880. Gertrude is listed, in 1900 as 5/1872, she PA, her parents PA. Ella Marion is listed as Marion E. in 1900, after 1900, she's listed in 1910 and 1920 as Ella M. In 1900, Gertrude had 2 children, both living, in 1910, she lists 3 children, 2 living, so, there was one between 1900 and 1910 that died. In 1920, all are still living, and the children still reside with their parents. In 1930, Gertrude is listed as a widow and daughter, this time Marion is 30 and still living with her mother. According to California Death Index, Harry Earl's name was actually Earl Harry Boogar. I've tried every possible way I can think of to search and cannot find anything on Harry Earl/Earl Harry except the CA Death Index. Take care - Deb >From: "Robin M. Stinson" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: BOOGAR family of Salem, Gloucester & Camden counties >Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:37:31 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com ([207.40.200.39]) by >mc7-f16.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Thu, 12 Jun >2003 07:49:02 -0700 >Received: (from [email protected])by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id >h5CEbWoL001168;Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:37:32 -0600 >X-Message-Info: EoYTbT2lH2MsQxQLKd6QGpQxvU17UYmU >Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:37:32 -0600 >X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Thu Jun 12 08:37:31 >2003 >Message-Id: <[email protected]> >X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (2001155.2001155) >References: <[email protected]> >X-FID: PLAINTXT-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 >X-FVER: 3.0 >X-CNT: ; >X-Priority: 3 >Old-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, ><[email protected]> >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists2.rootsweb.com >id h5CEbVia001134 >Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Resent-From: [email protected] >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/1471 >X-Loop: [email protected] >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: [email protected] >Return-Path: [email protected] >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2003 14:49:02.0928 (UTC) >FILETIME=[C3F39D00:01C330F1] > > Hi, > Wh oare the ones you are looking for. Mine was a Kate Boogar who >married a Walter J. Keen of Salem, NJ. They never had any children and >they died back in the early to middle 1950"s. I do not know any of her >family. Let me know if you find anything. >Thanks, >Mrs. Robin M. Stinson > > > > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Summerday Sands >Date: Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:57:07 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: BOOGAR family of Salem, Gloucester & Camden counties > >Searching for any info about Harry BOOGAR (d.bef. 1940). He married >Gertrude SWEENY (1871 PA -1953 CA) daughter of James SWEENY & my 4G aunt, >Elizabeth M'COLLISTER) at my uncle Harry's old house in Swedesboro in 1892. >Their son, Harry Earl BOOGAR (1895 NJ - 1958 CA), later moved to California >(LA area) and had a daughter, Ella Marion. They kept in touch with my >great-grandmother for quite awhile, but after some of the older family >members passed away, we lost touch. Looking for parents of Harry Sr. and >siblings, wife or other children for Harry Earl. > >Attn Boogar researchers: I have an adorably posed b&w pic of Ella Marion >(age 4, circa 1910) taken around Xmas in a Los Angeles photo studio. I can >email a size-reduced scan without much fuss. > >Any info or insight is much appreciated. > >Thanks much- >summedaysands > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go >to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >. > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Searching for any info about Harry BOOGAR (d.bef. 1940). He married Gertrude SWEENY (1871 PA -1953 CA) daughter of James SWEENY & my 4G aunt, Elizabeth M'COLLISTER) at my uncle Harry's old house in Swedesboro in 1892. Their son, Harry Earl BOOGAR (1895 NJ - 1958 CA), later moved to California (LA area) and had a daughter, Ella Marion. They kept in touch with my great-grandmother for quite awhile, but after some of the older family members passed away, we lost touch. Looking for parents of Harry Sr. and siblings, wife or other children for Harry Earl. Attn Boogar researchers: I have an adorably posed b&w pic of Ella Marion (age 4, circa 1910) taken around Xmas in a Los Angeles photo studio. I can email a size-reduced scan without much fuss. Any info or insight is much appreciated. Thanks much- summedaysands

Searching for info. on the families of Sarah PENTON b. c1695 Alloways Creek, Salem Co, NJ; d. Salem Co, NJ; m. 30 Jan 1715 Salem Co. to Joseph THOMPSON, s/o William & Sarah THOMPSON. Sarah Penton was the d/o William PENTON, s/o William PENTON. Much thanks for any help on this line? Donna Wall in GA, USA

Hi, Where was the closest Sanitarium for Salem County, NJ? If someone got TB in 1866 where or what would be done with them? Thank You, Mrs. Robin M. Stinson PS: Are death certificates kept in Salem with the other records? If so from what years? RMS

In a message dated 6/11/03 2:31:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Consumption. Is this the same as TB? Yes Robin -- TB was called "consumption" because it consumed the whole body with terrible wracking coughing spasms in later stages of the disease. There was no cure and often other members of a family also came down with Tuberculosis. Where they were sent in NJ I don't know but they were sent off to Sanitariums to isolate them and usually they were in the country for the benefits of "fresh air." Joan

Hello, I have a question. My 4th gr. grandfather Lorenzo D. Keen died in July 1866 of Consumption. Is this the same as TB? If so where were patients sent in 1866? He lived in Sharptown as a Butcher. He is not buried in our families cemetery at ME Church in Sharptown. His OBIT does not say much. Did they cremate people back then if they had TB? Thanks, Robin Stinson researching: (from the So. Jersey area) Keen, Leuallen / Lewallen, Westcott, Kier, McPherson, Boogar, Wallen, Dougherty, Waddington, Harvey, Townsend, Holmes, Davis

Hello, I have lost the phone number for the Woodstown Historical Society, Can someone please tell me what it is and their hours of operation? Thanks, Mrs. Robin M. Stinson researching: (from the So. Jersey area) Keen, Leuallen / Lewallen, Westcott, Kier, McPherson, Boogar, Wallen, Dougherty, Waddington, Harvey, Townsend, Holmes, Davis

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SPEAKMAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/oRB.2ACI/685 Message Board Post: am looking for Decendants and information of William Speakman of Salem County New Jersey. He was born about 1903, in Delaware, but moved to Lower Penns Neck by 1919. Thanks, Marc