Kiger House recognized as one of first worship houses Thursday, September 14, 2006 By ROBERT LINNEHANStaff Writer MANNINGTON TWP. -- Members of the New Jersey Catholic Historical Records Commission traveled to the county this week to dedicate a plaque at the Kiger House in Mannington Township. Built in 1720 by Richard Robinson, the Kiger House is recognized as the oldest standing edifice in New Jersey in which Catholic services were held. Michael and Suzanne Cooke have owned the historic house for the past six years. "This is a historic moment," retired Auxiliary Bishop Dominic Marconi of the Newark Archdiocese said at Tuesday afternoon's ceremony. "We appreciate everyone's hospitality for letting us come out on this beautiful day. We hope to be able to continue to research the Catholic history in the State of New Jersey." Auxiliary Bishop Marconi led a group of about 20 onlookers in the dedication ceremony, which included blessing the plaque, the house, and the grounds of the house with holy water. The plaque, which will be bronzed and placed on a rock located at the entrance of the driveway, memorializes the house for providing Catholics in the early 18th century with a place to celebrate Mass and perform the Sacraments. "Built circa 1720, this house was the residence of the Geiger (now spelled Kiger) brothers when, from 1744 until the time of the American Revolution, Jesuits from St. Joseph's Church in Philadelphia would come to offer Mass and perform the Sacraments," the first line of the plaque reads. At the time, the practice of the Catholic faith was forbidden in New Jersey and worshipers had to do so in secret. In the early 18th century, Catholic Masses had been outlawed by King George II of England, yet many Belgian and German Catholics had migrated to Salem County to work in the glass houses during his reign. Matthew and Adam Geiger were both employed at the Wistarburg Glass Works in Alloway Township when the two brothers moved into the house in 1744 and began allowing missionaries to secretly conduct Mass in their home. "The house was chosen by the Jesuits because of its remote location and its close proximity to the river," Father Augustine Curley said. The Salem River can be seen from the backyard of the property. Father Curley said many Catholics of Salem County would secretly attend the forbidden Masses by sailing along the Salem River and docking behind the house property. According to the Cookes, many of the original features of the Georgian style house have been preserved. The original floors and a large fireplace adorn the front room where Mass was held. Two additional rooms were added to the house in 1840. "We'd like to thank the Cookes for allowing us to do this today," Father Curley said to end the ceremony. "We're very proud of the Cookes for buying this house, knowing full well the role it played in the Catholic history of New Jersey." Barbara in Wilmington, NC "I've never met a tombstone I couldn't relate to....."

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The attached Word document got rejected for size, so we'll try the tree this time in Adobe format. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Robin Stinson" <robinpaulstinson@msn.com> Reply-To: njsalem@rootsweb.com To: "WESTCOTT-L" <WESTCOTT-L@rootsweb.com>, "NJSALEM-L" <NJSALEM-L@rootsweb.com>, <NJCUMBER-L@rootsweb.com>, "SNJGG" <SNJGG@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [NJSALEM] Please help Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:35:39 -0400 Hello, I have not written for quite a while. I need some help. I have been working on the Westcott's of New Jersey (some of the other spellings as well) and I have one that I know fits into my NJ Westcott's somewhere. Here is the info I have so far on this person: William Fithian Westcott Born: 1845----NJ Died: 1898------NJ Burried: Ol-Bridgeton, Cumberland, NJ Married: Dec 31, 1867 Cumberland, NJ Wife: Anna E. Bowen Born: 1842 Died: 1915 I have a list of their children. I need to know William Fithian Westcott's parents are. Thank You for your help, Mrs. Robin M. Stinson I have submitted this email on a few more groups. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSALEM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ancestral list is attached due to formatted text. Enjoy! The smaller numbers indicates sources. If you would rather have the database of all the cousins too, let me know. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Robin Stinson" <robinpaulstinson@msn.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:35:39 -0400 Hello, I have not written for quite a while. I need some help. I have been working on the Westcott's of New Jersey (some of the other spellings as well) and I have one that I know fits into my NJ Westcott's somewhere. Here is the info I have so far on this person: William Fithian Westcott Born: 1845----NJ Died: 1898------NJ Burried: Ol-Bridgeton, Cumberland, NJ Married: Dec 31, 1867 Cumberland, NJ Wife: Anna E. Bowen Born: 1842 Died: 1915 I need to know William Fithian Westcott's parents are. Thank You for your help, Mrs. Robin M. Stinson I have submitted this email on a few more groups. Ancestors of William Fithian Westcott Generation No. 1 1. William Fithian Westcott1, born Jun 09, 1843 in Fairfield Township, Cumberland, NJ1; died Jan 22, 1898 in Bridgeton, Cumberland, NJ1. He was the son of 2. Robert Westcott and 3. Deborah ... Westcott. He married (1) Anna E. Bowen1 Dec 31, 18671. She was born Nov 06, 18411, and died Aft. 19011. She was the daughter of David Madison Bowen and Elizabeth Sheppard Glaspey. Occupation: banker1 More About Anna E. Bowen: Occupation: educator1 Generation No. 2 2. Robert Westcott2,3,4, born Abt. 18085; died Abt. 18756,7,8. He was the son of 4. Ephraim Westcott and 5. Abigail Ogden. He married 3. Deborah ... Westcott Abt. 18308. 3. Deborah ... Westcott8, born Abt. 18108; died in . More About Robert Westcott: Probate: Feb 11, 1875, written, 25 Apr 18749,10,11 More About Deborah ... Westcott: Alt. Birth: Abt. 180411 Children of Robert Westcott and Deborah Westcott are: i. Anna O. Westcott11, born Abt. 183511; died in ; married Belford B. Russell Abt. 185511; born Abt. 183211; died in . 1 ii. William Fithian Westcott, born Jun 09, 1843 in Fairfield Township, Cumberland, NJ; died Jan 22, 1898 in Bridgeton, Cumberland, NJ; married Anna E. Bowen Dec 31, 1867. Generation No. 3 4. Ephraim Westcott12,13,14,15,16, born Oct 177517,18,19; died Apr 27, 184820,21,22,23,24. He was the son of 8. Joseph Westcott and 9. Mary Lummis. He married 5. Abigail Ogden Jan 20, 179925,26. 5. Abigail Ogden27,28, born Dec 13, 177929,30; died May 22, 182031. She was the daughter of 10. John Ogden and 11. Abigail Bennett. More About Ephraim Westcott: Burial: Apr 1848, Old Stone Cem, Fairton, Cumberland, NJ32,33 Children of Ephraim Westcott and Abigail Ogden are: i. Ephraim Westcott34, born Abt. 180134; died Jul 01, 186234; married Mary Buck Abt. 182834; born Mar 03, 180934; died Aug 16, 184634. More About Ephraim Westcott: Burial: Jul 1862, Old Stone Church Cemetery, Fairfield Township, Cumberland, NJ34 More About Mary Buck: Burial: Aug 1846, Old Stone Church Cemetery, Fairfield Township, Cumberland, NJ34 ii. Rachel Westcott35,36,37, born Abt. 180438,39; died in ; married John Summers Abt. 182540; born Abt. 180340; died in . 2 iii. Robert Westcott, born Abt. 1808; died Abt. 1875; married Deborah ... Westcott Abt. 1830. iv. Louisa Westcott40, born 181040; died Mar 25, 188440 Generation No. 4 8. Joseph Westcott41,42, born 172543,44; died Jun 10, 177745. He was the son of Ebenezer Westcott and Barbary ... Westcott. He married 9. Mary Lummis Abt. 175746. 9. Mary Lummis47,48, born Abt. 173549,50; died in . She was the daughter of Edward Lummis and Margaret Elmer. More About Joseph Westcott: Alt. Death: Jun 10, 177751,52 Children of Joseph Westcott and Mary Lummis are: i. Robert Westcott53,54, born Abt. 176155; died in ii. Mary Westcott55,56, born Abt. 176557; died in iii. Lawrence Westcott57,58, born Dec 27, 177459,60; died Jan 13, 1816 in Intestate61; married Susanna Daniels Aug 22, 179862; born Abt. 178362; died in . 4 iv. Ephraim Westcott, born Oct 1775; died Apr 27, 1848; married (1) Abigail Ogden Jan 20, 1799; married (2) Anna Elmer Thompson Sep 21, 1820. 10. John Ogden63,64, born 1755 in Fairfield Twp, Cumberland, NJ65; died Jun 27, 183265,66. He was the son of David Ogden and Hannah Sayre. He married 11. Abigail Bennett Mar 03, 177966. 11. Abigail Bennett67,68, born Feb 01, 176169,70; died Feb 22, 181871,72. Notes for John Ogden: He was a private in the Continental Army during the Revolution. More About John Ogden: Alt. Birth: Jan 01, 175573,74 Burial: Jun 29, 1832, Old Stone Church Cemetery, Fairfield Township, Cumberland, NJ74 Military: Abt. 177775,76 Occupation: Farmer77 More About Abigail Bennett: Alt. Burial: Abt. Feb 23, 181877,78 Burial: Feb 1818, Old Stone Cem, Fairton, Cumberland, NJ79 Children of John Ogden and Abigail Bennett are: 5 i. Abigail Ogden, born Dec 13, 1779; died May 22, 1820; married Ephraim Westcott Jan 20, 1799. ii. John Ogden80,81, born Jun 21, 178282,83; died Nov 13, 183984,85; married Charlotte Jones 1809; born Abt. 178885; died in . More About John Ogden: Burial: Nov 18, 1837, Old Stone Church, Fairfield Township, Cumberland, NJ85 Occupation: Tavern Keeper86 iii. Hannah Ogden86,87, born Aug 12, 178488,89; died Apr 06, 178590,91 More About Hannah Ogden: Burial: Abt. Apr 07, 1785, Old Stone Cemetery, Fairfield Township, Cumberland, NJ91 iv. Rachel Ogden92,93, born Jul 16, 178694,95; died Aug 10, 181596,97; married George Lummis Feb 22, 180497; born Jun 08, 178298,99,100,101; died in . v. Hannah Sayre Ogden102,103, born Jan 01, 1789104,105; died Jun 26, 1871105; married John Howell 1808; born Abt. 1788105; died in . More About Hannah Sayre Ogden: Burial: Abt. Jun 27, 1871, Presbyterian Cemetery, Cedarville, Cumberland, NJ106,107 vi. Theodocia Ogden108,109, born Mar 13, 1791110,111; died Oct 04, 1810112,113; married Joseph Hunt 1810; born Abt. 1790113; died in . vii. Abdon Ogden114,115, born Mar 27, 1793116,117; died May 02, 1846118,119; married Hannah Thompson Aug 29, 1821119; born Abt. 1794119; died in . viii. Elmer Ogden120,121, born Jul 28, 1795 in Fairfield Twp, Cumberland, NJ122; died 1879122,123; married (1) Sarah Sheppard Mar 17, 1818 in Rev.E Osborn124; born Nov 23, 1797 in Back Neck Township, Cumberland, NJ125; died Dec 21, 1853 in Lower Hopewell Township, Cumberland, NJ125; married (2) Matilda Riley Dec 12, 1858125; born Abt. 1831126,127,128; died Jul 15, 1873129,130,131. Notes for Elmer Ogden: He served in the War of 1812. More About Elmer Ogden: Alt. Birth: Jul 28, 1795132,133 Alt. Burial: 1879134,135 Burial: 1879, Baptist Cem, Greenwich, Cumberland, NJ136 Military: Abt. 1813136,137 More About Sarah Sheppard: Burial: Dec 1853, Baptist Cemetery, Greenwich, Cumberland, NJ137 ix. Benjamin Ogden138,139, born Oct 04, 1797140,141; died Jan 11, 1853 in Valparaiso, IN142,143; married Emily T. Sansbury Oct 15, 1826143; born Abt. 1799143; died 1884143. More About Benjamin Ogden: Graduation: 1817, Princeton Univ144 Occupation: Clergy144,145 x. Matilda Ogden146,147, born Dec 02, 1799148,149; died Aug 01, 1824150,151; married Harris B. Mattison Nov 25, 1821151; born Abt. 1798151; died in . xi. David Sayre Ogden152,153, born May 15, 1803154,155; died Jul 18, 1866 in Cedarville, NJ156; married Martha Sayre Ewing Nov 02, 1824 in Fairton, Cumberland, NJ157; born Dec 08, 1803158; died Aug 29, 1880. More About David Sayre Ogden: Alt. Death: Jul 18, 1866159,160 Notes for Martha Sayre Ewing: In later years they moved to Cedarville. More About Martha Sayre Ewing: Alt. Death: Aug 29, 1880160 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSALEM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I have not written for quite a while. I need some help. I have been working on the Westcott's of New Jersey (some of the other spellings as well) and I have one that I know fits into my NJ Westcott's somewhere. Here is the info I have so far on this person: William Fithian Westcott Born: 1845----NJ Died: 1898------NJ Burried: Ol-Bridgeton, Cumberland, NJ Married: Dec 31, 1867 Cumberland, NJ Wife: Anna E. Bowen Born: 1842 Died: 1915 I have a list of their children. I need to know William Fithian Westcott's parents are. Thank You for your help, Mrs. Robin M. Stinson I have submitted this email on a few more groups.

I am descended from Adam Storms/Stoms, b. abt 1818 in Salem Co. He was a Civil War vet (I have various papers associated with this). I am told he is buried in Woodstown Presbyterian Cemetery under a military headstone. I would very much appreciate a photo of his headstone, if anyone lives nearby and can get it. I suspect that his father was John Storms/Stoms. In the 1830 census, no Stoms come up in the index for Salem Co; one Storms shows up. Looking at the image for that John Storms, based on the handwriting, the last name could be either Stoms or Storms. The household does have a son aged 10-16, which would be the correct age range for Adam. Storms, John View Image Online State: New Jersey Year: 1830 County: Salem Roll: M19_81 Township: Lower Penns Neck Page: 269 Image: 513 males 2-1-0-0-0-0-1 females 0-1-0-0-1 Do any early Salem Co. records exist online? I am descended from the union of Adam and his 4th wife, Joanna Earnest, and their son, John Wesley Storms.

Please put me in. My e-mail address is: shirley.h@verizon.net Thanks for your time, God Bless, Shirley Powell, Hainesport, NJ From: Dave Bates <davebates77@hotmail.com> Date: 2006/09/10 Sun PM 04:36:38 CDT To: njsalem@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJSALEM] Old Cohansey Baptist Church -Roadstown Or do you just want me to use this? Hi Everyone, Last August (ha last month) I went to the Old Cohansey Baptist Church at Roadstown (Cumberland County). One of the deacons let me photograph the old records. I photographed: 1. Pastor's book from 1757 2. Pastor's book 2 which is people signing that folks are of good character 3. Sexton's book 1 (old version) 4. Sexton's book 2 (new version - they rewrote the old one in to a better form) 5. Sexton's book typed (new version) 6. Original seat purchase document from 1802 (and a few years after) 7. Cemetery map with plots labeled by owner (done by an engineer) 8. Document hanging in church signed by Samuel Harris (who married Sarah Johnson and is the father of most of the Harrises in the area) 9. Random documents I photographed in their collection - mostly having to do with Harrises 10. Photos inside the church including the original communion table from the 1700's (still in use today!) Now, as you might know.. the church cemetery could use some improvements. One of the deacons even spent his own money for parking lot bumps (the kind in your parking space so you can't go any further) to stop people from parking in the cemetery. Someone hit and knocked over a monument (it's okay, just needs to be put back on its base). He spent $90 of his own money for a total of 3 bumps and they need more bumps. I feel that if the folks in the cemetery can pay for it themselves (via the records they signed), then maybe they can help out. Also, some tombstones need repair or to be brought upright (none of these are my ancestors, but are cousins somehow). I don't think that anyone at the church has time to organize any sort of fundraiser for this or where to begin. And since all the folks at Roadstown are cousins of pretty much all of us. I decided to take some initiative. I will be selling 2 cds containing all the above photos on them (all the photos fit on total of 2 cds). I took them with my digital camera from a copy stand I have (I brought it there) - they are high resolution (300 dpi) 5x7's (or similar size) and you can read them on your computer screen. I figure that $15 is a resonable selling price. I will be deducting the following cost from the $15: Postage: 1.35 Bubble Envelope: 0.54 2 cd's + jewel case: 2.00 total: 3.89 (rounding up to $4 to make my life easier) I will be sending the leftover $11 dollars to the church as a donation for any additional parking lot bumps and to reimburse the kind deacon for his bumps. (ha that sounds funny) and to use the rest for tombstone repair. I don't expect that I will have many takers, but at least with 2 pkgs , it's most of a bump to protect the cemetery. And in case anyone wants to know.. I guilt very easily, so the money will be going to the church and I do believe all the folks in the cemetery would haunt me if I lied about it. :) I do go there often to visit my 4th great grandma, her father, stepmother, sister, and 2 brothers. I did find my 4th great grandma's death date on p. 25 of the Old pastor's book. :-D Yippie!!! The sexton's book also shows burial locations by plot of who's in there. I found my 4th great gma who has no stone :( She has a temporary marker for now. So, if anyone would like to purchase the cd's for $15, please email me off list and I will give you my address for a check or email for paypal. thanks! -andrea ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSALEM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSALEM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm afraid my south Jersey geography (or West Jersey as previously known) is bad. Where is this church, and is it near Darestown. I know I have ancestors buried in Darestown, but haven't figured out where that is either. I keep looking for a good map of West Jersey, and not finding one. I don't think any of my Baptist ancestors were from New Jersey--mostly from New England--but what you are doing is such a great thing I will certainly contribute. Just have to check my paypal balance and see if it needs funds added. Barbara in NJ Dave Bates <davebates77@hotmail.com> wrote: Don't have the proof you speak of, (these church records will be great for that!) but an extensive tree with those names is available for download at http://darefamily.com Most of the people in the church lists are also in the Dare/Sheppard Family tree. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Psdth66@aol.com Reply-To: njsalem@rootsweb.com To: njsalem@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJSALEM] Old Records on CD! - Old Cohansey Baptist Church -Roadstown Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 19:40:55 EDT RE the old Cohansey Baptist Church: I had Bowen, Brooks and Harris relatives in that area and have been looking for "proof" data on marriages, deaths, births, burials, etc. but have been unable to locate them. Could you tell me if you have any data in your photos or documents on the following: Samuel Bowen who died in that vicinity in 1728, and Elizabeth Wood Wheaton Bowen, his wife; Clifton Bowen, Sr., their son, who married Elizabeth Harris, daughter of Nathaniel Harris and Miriam Brooks in Cohansey? Also, information on Rev. Timothy Brooks who was married to Hannah Bowen--and served as a Baptist minister in one of the early churches there. (They are related, but not in my direct line.) They all came to the Cumberland and Salem county areas from Rehoboth, Massachusetts; Swansea, MA, and New Providence, RI--in the late 1680's, the best I can determine. Samuel Bowen's will was probated and is listed in the New Jersey Will Book, but I've been unable to locate the records of his burial or grave site, or that of Elizabeth his wife. Samuel's grandson Jonathan was active in the church there also, and several of the Bowen brothers contributed funds for building the church. The dates are not clear--but I think I saw mention of it in the Seventh Day Baptist church history on their web page. I would appreciate anything you can tell me about them--and naturally will happily pay for copies and mailing fees. I am doing my "family research" long distance, as I live in Texas. I am a direct descendant of Samuel Bowen and Nathaniel Harris (who may be the son of Thomas Harris who moved there from New York. I believe Samuel Harris is possibly a relative--just not certain how yet. Thanks! Lt.Col. P.S. Davis, San Antonio, TX ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSALEM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSALEM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney Harwood Lloyd, LLC 130 Main Street Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 359-3633 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home)

Andrea: I am willing to do either the check by mail or the paypal. Which is easier for you? I never did paypal before; if you would give a quick explanation, I'l gladly do that if you prefer. Thanks so much for your kind offer and what a great way to help the church and cemetery. Also, did you ever thing to put this post on Findagrave's forums under New Jersey. You might also have lots of takers. Have a great night and thanks. Margi Megill -------------- Original message -------------- From: "andrea batcho" <final.offer@gmail.com> > Hi Everyone, > Last August (ha last month) I went to the Old Cohansey Baptist Church > at Roadstown (Cumberland County). One of the deacons let me photograph > the old records. I photographed: > > 1. Pastor's book from 1757 > 2. Pastor's book 2 which is people signing that folks are of good character > 3. Sexton's book 1 (old version) > 4. Sexton's book 2 (new version - they rewrote the old one in to a better form) > 5. Sexton's book typed (new version) > 6. Original seat purchase document from 1802 (and a few years after) > 7. Cemetery map with plots labeled by owner (done by an engineer) > 8. Document hanging in church signed by Samuel Harris (who married > Sarah Johnson and is the father of most of the Harrises in the area) > 9. Random documents I photographed in their collection - mostly having > to do with Harrises > 10. Photos inside the church including the original communion table > from the 1700's (still in use today!) > > Now, as you might know.. the church cemetery could use some > improvements. One of the deacons even spent his own money for parking > lot bumps (the kind in your parking space so you can't go any further) > to stop people from parking in the cemetery. Someone hit and knocked > over a monument (it's okay, just needs to be put back on its base). He > spent $90 of his own money for a total of 3 bumps and they need more > bumps. I feel that if the folks in the cemetery can pay for it > themselves (via the records they signed), then maybe they can help > out. Also, some tombstones need repair or to be brought upright (none > of these are my ancestors, but are cousins somehow). > > I don't think that anyone at the church has time to organize any sort > of fundraiser for this or where to begin. And since all the folks at > Roadstown are cousins of pretty much all of us. I decided to take some > initiative. > > I will be selling 2 cds containing all the above photos on them (all > the photos fit on total of 2 cds). I took them with my digital camera > from a copy stand I have (I brought it there) - they are high > resolution (300 dpi) 5x7's (or similar size) and you can read them on > your computer screen. I figure that $15 is a resonable selling price. > I will be deducting the following cost from the $15: > > Postage: 1.35 > Bubble Envelope: 0.54 > 2 cd's + jewel case: 2.00 > total: 3.89 (rounding up to $4 to make my life easier) > > I will be sending the leftover $11 dollars to the church as a donation > for any additional parking lot bumps and to reimburse the kind deacon > for his bumps. (ha that sounds funny) and to use the rest for > tombstone repair. I don't expect that I will have many takers, but at > least with 2 pkgs , it's most of a bump to protect the cemetery. > > And in case anyone wants to know.. I guilt very easily, so the money > will be going to the church and I do believe all the folks in the > cemetery would haunt me if I lied about it. :) I do go there often to > visit my 4th great grandma, her father, stepmother, sister, and 2 > brothers. I did find my 4th great grandma's death date on p. 25 of the > Old pastor's book. :-D Yippie!!! The sexton's book also shows burial > locations by plot of who's in there. I found my 4th great gma who has > no stone :( She has a temporary marker for now. > > So, if anyone would like to purchase the cd's for $15, please email me > off list and I will give you my address for a check or email for > paypal. > > thanks! > -andrea > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJSALEM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Don't have the proof you speak of, (these church records will be great for that!) but an extensive tree with those names is available for download at http://darefamily.com Most of the people in the church lists are also in the Dare/Sheppard Family tree. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Psdth66@aol.com Reply-To: njsalem@rootsweb.com To: njsalem@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJSALEM] Old Records on CD! - Old Cohansey Baptist Church -Roadstown Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 19:40:55 EDT RE the old Cohansey Baptist Church: I had Bowen, Brooks and Harris relatives in that area and have been looking for "proof" data on marriages, deaths, births, burials, etc. but have been unable to locate them. Could you tell me if you have any data in your photos or documents on the following: Samuel Bowen who died in that vicinity in 1728, and Elizabeth Wood Wheaton Bowen, his wife; Clifton Bowen, Sr., their son, who married Elizabeth Harris, daughter of Nathaniel Harris and Miriam Brooks in Cohansey? Also, information on Rev. Timothy Brooks who was married to Hannah Bowen--and served as a Baptist minister in one of the early churches there. (They are related, but not in my direct line.) They all came to the Cumberland and Salem county areas from Rehoboth, Massachusetts; Swansea, MA, and New Providence, RI--in the late 1680's, the best I can determine. Samuel Bowen's will was probated and is listed in the New Jersey Will Book, but I've been unable to locate the records of his burial or grave site, or that of Elizabeth his wife. Samuel's grandson Jonathan was active in the church there also, and several of the Bowen brothers contributed funds for building the church. The dates are not clear--but I think I saw mention of it in the Seventh Day Baptist church history on their web page. I would appreciate anything you can tell me about them--and naturally will happily pay for copies and mailing fees. I am doing my "family research" long distance, as I live in Texas. I am a direct descendant of Samuel Bowen and Nathaniel Harris (who may be the son of Thomas Harris who moved there from New York. I believe Samuel Harris is possibly a relative--just not certain how yet. Thanks! Lt.Col. P.S. Davis, San Antonio, TX ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSALEM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

....Although I have no relative in Old Cohansey Baptis Church Cemetery, you can expect a check in the mail for $90 Andrea.... my contribution for a good cause : ) Sue Quinn-Morris squinn9807@aol.com

I don't have anyone in this cemetery, but I did want to say what a wonderful thing you are doing! What a great idea.... Gail p.s. those 'bumps' are called bollards -----Original Message----- From: andrea batcho [mailto:final.offer@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 2:13 PM To: NJCUMBER-L@rootsweb.com; NJsalem-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJSALEM] Old Records on CD! - Old Cohansey Baptist Church -Roadstown Hi Everyone, Last August (ha last month) I went to the Old Cohansey Baptist Church at Roadstown (Cumberland County). One of the deacons let me photograph the old records. I photographed: 1. Pastor's book from 1757 2. Pastor's book 2 which is people signing that folks are of good character 3. Sexton's book 1 (old version) 4. Sexton's book 2 (new version - they rewrote the old one in to a better form) 5. Sexton's book typed (new version) 6. Original seat purchase document from 1802 (and a few years after) 7. Cemetery map with plots labeled by owner (done by an engineer) 8. Document hanging in church signed by Samuel Harris (who married Sarah Johnson and is the father of most of the Harrises in the area) 9. Random documents I photographed in their collection - mostly having to do with Harrises 10. Photos inside the church including the original communion table from the 1700's (still in use today!) Now, as you might know.. the church cemetery could use some improvements. One of the deacons even spent his own money for parking lot bumps (the kind in your parking space so you can't go any further) to stop people from parking in the cemetery. Someone hit and knocked over a monument (it's okay, just needs to be put back on its base). He spent $90 of his own money for a total of 3 bumps and they need more bumps. I feel that if the folks in the cemetery can pay for it themselves (via the records they signed), then maybe they can help out. Also, some tombstones need repair or to be brought upright (none of these are my ancestors, but are cousins somehow). I don't think that anyone at the church has time to organize any sort of fundraiser for this or where to begin. And since all the folks at Roadstown are cousins of pretty much all of us. I decided to take some initiative. I will be selling 2 cds containing all the above photos on them (all the photos fit on total of 2 cds). I took them with my digital camera from a copy stand I have (I brought it there) - they are high resolution (300 dpi) 5x7's (or similar size) and you can read them on your computer screen. I figure that $15 is a resonable selling price. I will be deducting the following cost from the $15: Postage: 1.35 Bubble Envelope: 0.54 2 cd's + jewel case: 2.00 total: 3.89 (rounding up to $4 to make my life easier) I will be sending the leftover $11 dollars to the church as a donation for any additional parking lot bumps and to reimburse the kind deacon for his bumps. (ha that sounds funny) and to use the rest for tombstone repair. I don't expect that I will have many takers, but at least with 2 pkgs , it's most of a bump to protect the cemetery. And in case anyone wants to know.. I guilt very easily, so the money will be going to the church and I do believe all the folks in the cemetery would haunt me if I lied about it. :) I do go there often to visit my 4th great grandma, her father, stepmother, sister, and 2 brothers. I did find my 4th great grandma's death date on p. 25 of the Old pastor's book. :-D Yippie!!! The sexton's book also shows burial locations by plot of who's in there. I found my 4th great gma who has no stone :( She has a temporary marker for now. So, if anyone would like to purchase the cd's for $15, please email me off list and I will give you my address for a check or email for paypal. thanks! -andrea ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSALEM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

RE the old Cohansey Baptist Church: I had Bowen, Brooks and Harris relatives in that area and have been looking for "proof" data on marriages, deaths, births, burials, etc. but have been unable to locate them. Could you tell me if you have any data in your photos or documents on the following: Samuel Bowen who died in that vicinity in 1728, and Elizabeth Wood Wheaton Bowen, his wife; Clifton Bowen, Sr., their son, who married Elizabeth Harris, daughter of Nathaniel Harris and Miriam Brooks in Cohansey? Also, information on Rev. Timothy Brooks who was married to Hannah Bowen--and served as a Baptist minister in one of the early churches there. (They are related, but not in my direct line.) They all came to the Cumberland and Salem county areas from Rehoboth, Massachusetts; Swansea, MA, and New Providence, RI--in the late 1680's, the best I can determine. Samuel Bowen's will was probated and is listed in the New Jersey Will Book, but I've been unable to locate the records of his burial or grave site, or that of Elizabeth his wife. Samuel's grandson Jonathan was active in the church there also, and several of the Bowen brothers contributed funds for building the church. The dates are not clear--but I think I saw mention of it in the Seventh Day Baptist church history on their web page. I would appreciate anything you can tell me about them--and naturally will happily pay for copies and mailing fees. I am doing my "family research" long distance, as I live in Texas. I am a direct descendant of Samuel Bowen and Nathaniel Harris (who may be the son of Thomas Harris who moved there from New York. I believe Samuel Harris is possibly a relative--just not certain how yet. Thanks! Lt.Col. P.S. Davis, San Antonio, TX

Or do you just want me to use this? Hi Everyone, Last August (ha last month) I went to the Old Cohansey Baptist Church at Roadstown (Cumberland County). One of the deacons let me photograph the old records. I photographed: 1. Pastor's book from 1757 2. Pastor's book 2 which is people signing that folks are of good character 3. Sexton's book 1 (old version) 4. Sexton's book 2 (new version - they rewrote the old one in to a better form) 5. Sexton's book typed (new version) 6. Original seat purchase document from 1802 (and a few years after) 7. Cemetery map with plots labeled by owner (done by an engineer) 8. Document hanging in church signed by Samuel Harris (who married Sarah Johnson and is the father of most of the Harrises in the area) 9. Random documents I photographed in their collection - mostly having to do with Harrises 10. Photos inside the church including the original communion table from the 1700's (still in use today!) Now, as you might know.. the church cemetery could use some improvements. One of the deacons even spent his own money for parking lot bumps (the kind in your parking space so you can't go any further) to stop people from parking in the cemetery. Someone hit and knocked over a monument (it's okay, just needs to be put back on its base). He spent $90 of his own money for a total of 3 bumps and they need more bumps. I feel that if the folks in the cemetery can pay for it themselves (via the records they signed), then maybe they can help out. Also, some tombstones need repair or to be brought upright (none of these are my ancestors, but are cousins somehow). I don't think that anyone at the church has time to organize any sort of fundraiser for this or where to begin. And since all the folks at Roadstown are cousins of pretty much all of us. I decided to take some initiative. I will be selling 2 cds containing all the above photos on them (all the photos fit on total of 2 cds). I took them with my digital camera from a copy stand I have (I brought it there) - they are high resolution (300 dpi) 5x7's (or similar size) and you can read them on your computer screen. I figure that $15 is a resonable selling price. I will be deducting the following cost from the $15: Postage: 1.35 Bubble Envelope: 0.54 2 cd's + jewel case: 2.00 total: 3.89 (rounding up to $4 to make my life easier) I will be sending the leftover $11 dollars to the church as a donation for any additional parking lot bumps and to reimburse the kind deacon for his bumps. (ha that sounds funny) and to use the rest for tombstone repair. I don't expect that I will have many takers, but at least with 2 pkgs , it's most of a bump to protect the cemetery. And in case anyone wants to know.. I guilt very easily, so the money will be going to the church and I do believe all the folks in the cemetery would haunt me if I lied about it. :) I do go there often to visit my 4th great grandma, her father, stepmother, sister, and 2 brothers. I did find my 4th great grandma's death date on p. 25 of the Old pastor's book. :-D Yippie!!! The sexton's book also shows burial locations by plot of who's in there. I found my 4th great gma who has no stone :( She has a temporary marker for now. So, if anyone would like to purchase the cd's for $15, please email me off list and I will give you my address for a check or email for paypal. thanks! -andrea ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJSALEM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Andrea: You have a great idea and I hope you have some success with your fund raiser in behalf of the wonderful old church. You have done so much already to help preserve and protect the old cemeteries and to record the information for the next generations. I know that you have donated your time and your own money many times to improve the cemeteries you visit. That helps us all. I'm sure your kindness and generosity will be rewarded by the participation of others on the list. Carol At 02:12 PM 9/10/2006, you wrote: >Hi Everyone, >Last August (ha last month) I went to the Old Cohansey Baptist Church >at Roadstown (Cumberland County). One of the deacons let me photograph >the old records. I photographed: > >1. Pastor's book from 1757 >2. Pastor's book 2 which is people signing that folks are of good character >3. Sexton's book 1 (old version) >4. Sexton's book 2 (new version - they rewrote the old one in to a better >form) >5. Sexton's book typed (new version) >6. Original seat purchase document from 1802 (and a few years after) >7. Cemetery map with plots labeled by owner (done by an engineer) >8. Document hanging in church signed by Samuel Harris (who married >Sarah Johnson and is the father of most of the Harrises in the area) >9. Random documents I photographed in their collection - mostly having >to do with Harrises >10. Photos inside the church including the original communion table >from the 1700's (still in use today!) > >Now, as you might know.. the church cemetery could use some >improvements. One of the deacons even spent his own money for parking >lot bumps (the kind in your parking space so you can't go any further) >to stop people from parking in the cemetery. Someone hit and knocked >over a monument (it's okay, just needs to be put back on its base). He >spent $90 of his own money for a total of 3 bumps and they need more >bumps. I feel that if the folks in the cemetery can pay for it >themselves (via the records they signed), then maybe they can help >out. Also, some tombstones need repair or to be brought upright (none >of these are my ancestors, but are cousins somehow). > >I don't think that anyone at the church has time to organize any sort >of fundraiser for this or where to begin. And since all the folks at >Roadstown are cousins of pretty much all of us. I decided to take some >initiative. > >I will be selling 2 cds containing all the above photos on them (all >the photos fit on total of 2 cds). I took them with my digital camera >from a copy stand I have (I brought it there) - they are high >resolution (300 dpi) 5x7's (or similar size) and you can read them on >your computer screen. I figure that $15 is a resonable selling price. >I will be deducting the following cost from the $15: > >Postage: 1.35 >Bubble Envelope: 0.54 >2 cd's + jewel case: 2.00 >total: 3.89 (rounding up to $4 to make my life easier) > >I will be sending the leftover $11 dollars to the church as a donation >for any additional parking lot bumps and to reimburse the kind deacon >for his bumps. (ha that sounds funny) and to use the rest for >tombstone repair. I don't expect that I will have many takers, but at >least with 2 pkgs , it's most of a bump to protect the cemetery. > >And in case anyone wants to know.. I guilt very easily, so the money >will be going to the church and I do believe all the folks in the >cemetery would haunt me if I lied about it. :) I do go there often to >visit my 4th great grandma, her father, stepmother, sister, and 2 >brothers. I did find my 4th great grandma's death date on p. 25 of the >Old pastor's book. :-D Yippie!!! The sexton's book also shows burial >locations by plot of who's in there. I found my 4th great gma who has >no stone :( She has a temporary marker for now. > >So, if anyone would like to purchase the cd's for $15, please email me >off list and I will give you my address for a check or email for >paypal. > >thanks! >-andrea > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NJSALEM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/441 - Release Date: 9/7/2006

Hi Everyone, Last August (ha last month) I went to the Old Cohansey Baptist Church at Roadstown (Cumberland County). One of the deacons let me photograph the old records. I photographed: 1. Pastor's book from 1757 2. Pastor's book 2 which is people signing that folks are of good character 3. Sexton's book 1 (old version) 4. Sexton's book 2 (new version - they rewrote the old one in to a better form) 5. Sexton's book typed (new version) 6. Original seat purchase document from 1802 (and a few years after) 7. Cemetery map with plots labeled by owner (done by an engineer) 8. Document hanging in church signed by Samuel Harris (who married Sarah Johnson and is the father of most of the Harrises in the area) 9. Random documents I photographed in their collection - mostly having to do with Harrises 10. Photos inside the church including the original communion table from the 1700's (still in use today!) Now, as you might know.. the church cemetery could use some improvements. One of the deacons even spent his own money for parking lot bumps (the kind in your parking space so you can't go any further) to stop people from parking in the cemetery. Someone hit and knocked over a monument (it's okay, just needs to be put back on its base). He spent $90 of his own money for a total of 3 bumps and they need more bumps. I feel that if the folks in the cemetery can pay for it themselves (via the records they signed), then maybe they can help out. Also, some tombstones need repair or to be brought upright (none of these are my ancestors, but are cousins somehow). I don't think that anyone at the church has time to organize any sort of fundraiser for this or where to begin. And since all the folks at Roadstown are cousins of pretty much all of us. I decided to take some initiative. I will be selling 2 cds containing all the above photos on them (all the photos fit on total of 2 cds). I took them with my digital camera from a copy stand I have (I brought it there) - they are high resolution (300 dpi) 5x7's (or similar size) and you can read them on your computer screen. I figure that $15 is a resonable selling price. I will be deducting the following cost from the $15: Postage: 1.35 Bubble Envelope: 0.54 2 cd's + jewel case: 2.00 total: 3.89 (rounding up to $4 to make my life easier) I will be sending the leftover $11 dollars to the church as a donation for any additional parking lot bumps and to reimburse the kind deacon for his bumps. (ha that sounds funny) and to use the rest for tombstone repair. I don't expect that I will have many takers, but at least with 2 pkgs , it's most of a bump to protect the cemetery. And in case anyone wants to know.. I guilt very easily, so the money will be going to the church and I do believe all the folks in the cemetery would haunt me if I lied about it. :) I do go there often to visit my 4th great grandma, her father, stepmother, sister, and 2 brothers. I did find my 4th great grandma's death date on p. 25 of the Old pastor's book. :-D Yippie!!! The sexton's book also shows burial locations by plot of who's in there. I found my 4th great gma who has no stone :( She has a temporary marker for now. So, if anyone would like to purchase the cd's for $15, please email me off list and I will give you my address for a check or email for paypal. thanks! -andrea

Oops! I later realized that I'd left a very important politician off the list of those who should hear from the historic community. Don't forget to give Dominic Pileggi a piece of your mind, too! Mark State Sen. Dominic Pileggi 100 Granite Drive Suite 105 Media, PA 19063 dpileggi@pasen.gov From: "Mark E. Dixon" <mark.dixon@att.net> To: "Mark E. Dixon" <mark.dixon@att.net> Subject: DCHS: What's happened; what to do next Date: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:42 PM Dear Friends I am writing with news from the Sept. 7 annual meeting of the Delaware County Historical Society. For those concerned about the integrity of an 111-year-old county historical society, its library and collections, the results were not good. So, first the terrible news. Then, the merely bad news. And, finally, a modest glimmer of hope. The terrible news: Those now in control of DCHS - which is already in the red - announced that, on Oct. 11, they will move its library from its current safe, secure location in Broomall into a decrepit building in Chester that is (1) unsuitable for the purpose and (2) which DCHS doesn't have the resources to operate in any case. DCHS is doing this to satisfy the personal vanity of two politically connected "philanthropists" who, in 2002, announced the goal despite contrary evidence from museum and library professionals. Subsequently, the donors connections allowed DCHS to acquire federal earmarks and "walking around" (WAM) money from naive politicians. Recently, those politicians have asked when they will see something for their money, so the donors are pushing the project forward - and damn the consequences. The project has acquired no support based on its merits as a library and museum. The project has no coherent museum collection, no display plan, no business plan, no marketing plan, no visitor projections, no trained staff, no community outreach and - most important - no dependable revenue stream. And it needs a lot of revenue: This past winter, DCHS turned off the heat at the empty Chester building after receiving a $5,000 monthly heating bill it couldn't pay. Currently, the project is siphoning money from the society's property at Greenbank Farm, which is itself deteriorating. I'd encourage anyone interested in the history of Delaware County to visit the library and make copies of anything relevant to your interests immediately. The donors are in their 80s and have made no long-term provision for continuing the Chester project. When they are gone, DCHS materials could easily end up in a closed building that is both damp and unheated. Which means that, in the future, your copies could be the only records that exist. The merely bad news: Members failed to introduce a resolution to terminate the Chester project when a microphone was snatched from the hands of a former president while she was speaking and the meeting adjourned. Would such a resolution have passed? It would have been close but -- win or lose -- would have demonstrated the Chester project to be the fantasy of a well-connected clique, not the credible effort of professional historians, museum designers or the local historical community. So, in that respect, I regret that the resolution was not offered and voted on. Still, I think our point was made by the tactics and personal demeanor* of those in charge. A Modest Bright Spot? Members succeeded in passing a resolution that the board should disavow a legal threat made against me by a rogue board member (one of the donors) this past spring. That threat followed a June report by three previous DCHS presidents and myself strongly recommending termination of the Chester project. Rather than examine these facts, the board instead removed me from office and the threat intended to silence me followed. The report has been well circulated but, if you haven't seen it, email me for a copy. Beyond the personal relevance, I regard this as promising: It indicates that the donors' followers will only follow them so far. What can be done? Protest loudly to the officials or news media of your choice. A list of both is attached. Mark *For those unfamiliar with the sort of people we're dealing with, when critics of the Chester project spoke Thursday, the two "philanthropists" responsible sat among their collaborators and...laughed.