Could someone please help me in locating a newspaper that would have printed obituaries in 1909,1913,1914,1932 & 1942. My grandparents etc all died in Paterson and are all buried in Cedar Lawn Cemetery. Thank you so much. Marge (from Paramus now in Texas)

Hi Passaic Co. List: Would anyone know what newspaper(s) might have covered obituaries of deaths occurring in the Newfoundland area of West Milford Township in the 1890s and the 1940s? I am looking for an obituary of a Frances (Fanny) RUTAN POST sometime between 1889 and 1896 and also one for a Nelson POST who died in 1946. (These people are my great-grandmother and my great-uncle.) Or perhaps someone would know of a local genealogist who would have files of this type of information. Thank you for any and all ideas you may have. Regards, Marilyn Hough Stern

but I must object. I am sitting looking at an antique drinking glass labeled " Souvenir of Patterson, N. J.". Much easier to change the name of that alleged city.

For the sake of clarity, let us agree that the city's name is PATERSON, with one T in the spelling. [email protected]

In the 30s and possibly earlier St. John's Grammar School in Orange, NJ had a junior police force. These students wore uniforms with caps and capes. They assisted the smaller students at several street corners surrounding the school. I graduated from St. John's in 1942 and at that time the police force used metal arm bands and over the shoulder white straps attached to a belt around the waist. I am very interested in securing a group picture of the jr. police force or an individual photo of anyone in uniform. I certainly will reimburse all costs including mailings. This photo would be included in my family history as my brother at one time was on that force while he attended the school. I thank you in advance for your time and effort. Charles [email protected]

Aloha listers: Can anyone tell me what Enumeration District River Street Paterson was in for the 1910 US census? Also is there a soundex index for the 1910 census? Thank you. Glad to see that the list is coming to life! Audrey on Maui in Hawaii

my great grandfather joseph garlick ,immigrated from england in 1848, and settled in paterson nj. he settled in the weavertown section of paterson with his family., and owned a weaving shop. my grandfather jeptha garlick was a carpenter. if you have any documents of the birth or deaths of my family, please contact me at this website. thank you.

Just wanted to send a warm Thank You to all who sent me the address and phone number to Laurel Grove cemetery. I'll be contacting them soon and even hope to visit there on my next trip down to visit my grandmothers. Thanks again Sue

Melanie wrote: > I had noticed that when I wrote out the directories and sent > them although I wrote them and sent them in order, when they were posted to > the list they were not in the order I sent them. Any ideas on why this is > happening? ----------------------------------- Melanie, it really has nothing to do with you at all. It is the server on the ISP (Internet Service Provider) that is "ordering" them for you. In fact, what you might see as an "out of order" posting may not be so on someone else's pooter. When you send an email, it will generally be transmitted to the host server (the "@xxx.com") and it will stay there until the person retrieves it to their PC. So, when you are sending email it will be "ordered" by the way it is stored on the host server --- as well, it can be "ordered" depending on how many stops along the way the email message must take. The internet is not a straight line. It is a rather convoluted network of computers all interconnected in some way (that is why we all can communicate with folks all over the globe), but with no central mechanism that controls the way information is handled (hence the sometimes "out of order" postings). Probably too much information. Rory http://www.erols.com/emcrcc/RGen.htm

Sandy wrote: > Many of the lists have archives. I don't know if this list does or not. > Perhaps someone could respond to that?? > > I am on a Mack/Mock list and the Archives are the best part. Every msg is > held so that it is available for furture use by newcomers to the list. The > "threads" are kept together too. Posting info to a web site is great but > does not completely cover the ground the way an archived version of the > posts would. > > I have so much stuff to post on my web site that I gave up coding line by > line. Throw it into a table format and let WORD do it itself. Just add > the "header" and "footer" and bingo! One more web page for the road. ================================ I will check into the archives possibility. Although I agree that message threads are best kept to a mailing list and having them archived; the postings of directory information have not sparked any "threads." What if we were to pursue both avenues?--archiving and having a URL The URL can have a link to the archives. I can certainly understand about not having enough time; but I suppose that I am such a control freak that I still endeavor to handcraft my HTML. I certainly did not meant to denigrate any HTML editor nor anyone who uses one. Life is be far too short and too hectic at times -- so much of what is out there that provides convenience and can save us all some time is welcome. Rory http://www.erols.com/emcrcc/RGen.htm

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3D4EE541233C60932F2B2D82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you Melanie for the postings! I really didn't expect to find anything in them but as I glanced over them I found my Great Grandfather! I had no idea that he was a saloon owner. If anyone has any further information, I would be grateful.: Richard Cubby born Oct. 19, 1827 in Carlilse, Scotland , died March 2, 1900 in Paterson, NJ. He was married to Sarah Flannigan, born Jan.1, 1821 in England, Feb.6, 1887 in Paterson, NJ. They had nine children: John Cubby, born April 2, 1849 Christopher Cubby born Sept 17, 1850 Mary Cubby born June 20, 1853 Richard Cubby, born Dec. 5, 1857/ The saloon owner at 28 Market Street married to Eliza Sharpley James Cubby, born March 5, 1859 Margaret Cubby, born August 25, 1861 Sarah Cubby, born Nov.1, 1864 Francis Caroline Cubby, born Jan.16.1867 Joseph Cubby, born Aug 5, 1855 Richard's wife, Eliza Sharpley, was the daughter of Samuel Sharpley and Ellen Turner. Both came to Paterson from England To my knowlege all of the above mentioned are buried in Cedar Lawn cemetery in Paterson. Cubby seems to be a relatively rare surname.. I haven't found any information on them. What I have is from family records. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Cathleen Symons Larson --------------3D4EE541233C60932F2B2D82 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Cathleen Larson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Cathleen Larson n: Larson;Cathleen email;internet: [email protected] x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------3D4EE541233C60932F2B2D82--

Hello everyone! I had noticed that when I wrote out the directories and sent them although I wrote them and sent them in order, when they were posted to the list they were not in the order I sent them. Any ideas on why this is happening? Thanks! Melanie

The rest of page 41, the saloons continued... Boyd Benjamin, 33 Passaic Bradley James, 110 Cross Bradley James, 280 Market Brain Paul, 30 Wait Bramhall Edwin, 31 Albion ave Brandt Louis, 2 Main Brauns George, 136 River Braun Louis C, 331 Marshall Brower Peter A, 227 Straight Brown Frederick W, 85 Cedar Brown William, 29 Dover Browne Margaret, 116 Jersey Bruce Donald, 54 West Brummer George, 30 Cross Bullock James, 133 Madison Burbridge Charles, 40 Cedar Burke James, 41 Morris Bush Abram A, 1 Arch Bush Cornelius, 5 Washington Byrne James, 86 Pine Byrnes John, 53 Van Houten Call James, 542 Straight Callan James, 38 Market Carless Benjamin, 192 Wayne ave Carroll John, 279 Market Carroll Owen, 75 Marshall Carroll Richard, 10 R R ave Carroll William, 407 River Carson James, 23 Ellison Chadwick Sarah, 308 Market Chapman John, 554 Straight Charley Thomas, 416 Market Childs John, 79 Market Cinnamond John, 154 Mill Clare Thomas, 33 Mill Clark John, 396 Market Cleary Patrick, 65 Front Clerk William B, 463 Broadway Cocker James H, 76 Van Houten Coe Cornelius, 5 Fair Coffey Patrick, 522 Straight Coleman George W, 229 River Coleman John J, 86 River Collins James, 71 Spruce Compton Frederick, 68 Bond Condon John, Clay cor Lewis Conklin George W, r 134 N Main Conlon Thomas, 170 Spring Connolly Thomas, 244 W 26th Connor John H, 17 Ramapo ave Cook Samuel, 13 Division Cooper James, 55 Main Cornet John B, 1008 Madison av Corrigan Thomas, 152 W 18th Courtade Jacob, 139 Market Crane William H, 90 Mechanic Creighton Bernard, 177 Martin Crompton Henry, 541 Union av Cronin Thomas J, 76 Jersey Crooke James, 90 Spruce Cross Francis W, 73 Pine Crossley John, 575 E 18th Crowley James, Grand cor Jersey Crumlish Thomas F, 87 New Cubby Richard, 28 Market Cudden Richard, 15 Van Houten Curry Thomas, 54 Ellison Davis William D, 96 Broadway Davis William D, Little Coney Island Davison William, 508 Straight Dawson John, Keen cor River Death William, 414 Market Degelmann Caroline, 35 Market DeGraw, 228 River DeLade Cornelius, 107 Highland Whew! That's all for now. Melanie

More from the 1886-1887 Paterson Business Directory... I do not have the complete listing of the saloons section, only up to the name DeLade. *Routing Machines. Royle John & Sons, R R av c Grand Rubber Goods. Dempsey & Ritchey, 121 Ellison *Rubber Tubing Machines. Royle John & Sons, R R av c Grand Saddle and Harness Makers. Allen Daniel J, 222 Paterson Collmer Charles A, 207 Marshall Gollmer Charles, 207 Marshall Hopson Charles R, 21 Main Hopson William A, 67 Broadway McKenna Hugh, 10 Marshall Maseker John P, 5 N Main Roe John C, 25 Bank Smith Harmon G, 17 Main Winters Peter W, 14 Fair Saloons. (See also Wines and Liquors.) Adam Thomas, 354 Market Agel Robert, 977 Main Ahlers William C, 12 Fair Aikman Isabella, 124 Mill Allcott Edward, 30 Mechanic Alyea Isaac, Bridge cor Godwin Angland Maurice, 84 Marshall Apel Charles, 421 Main Arden John, 277 Main Ash Andrew, 36 Van Houten Ash James, 20 Van Houten Baird John, 505 Main Banta Thomas A, 233 Straight Banvard Sarah, 7 Cross Barclay Harry jr, 296 Straight Barclay Margaret, 31 Willis Barker J Foster, 42 Fulton Barrett Mary, 33 Greene Baumann Henry, 5th av nr Wait Baumgarten Minnie, 63 Van Houten Bechler Hermann, 63 Ellison Beesley Charles B, 18 Marshall Benedetti Carlo, 18 West Berg Emil G, 39 1/2 Hamburgh ave Berger, Oswald, 195 Preakness ave Berry Charles, 575 Main Berry Mary E, 235 Straight Black John H, 318 Straight Black Thomas, 44 Market Blackwell Henry, 11 1/2 Fair Block Cornelius D E, Keene cor River Bolton Edward, 31 Hamburgh ave More on another post.... Melanie

Here are a few listings from the 1886-1887 Paterson Business Directory. Part of page 40 and all of page 41 is on my photocopy. I am going to break them up into separate posts again. *Publishers-Directory. BOYD WILLIAM H, home office, Washington, D C Quarries. Devlin Francis, Mill nr Canal *Railroad Ticket Agnet. Morrisse James A, 289 Main Railroads. Delaware, Lackawanna & Western, Barclay New York, Lake Erie & Western, Railroad av cor Market N Y, Susquehanna & Western, Straight cor Mechanic Paterson and Passaic, First National Bank Building Paterson City, 27 Broadway Real Estate Agents. Ackerman Jacob V, 95 Van Houten Boice I Ferris, 114 Ellison Brown George, 91 Van Houten Butler W H, 31 Washington Derrom Andrew, 223 Main Doremus Benjamin D, 31 Washington Douglas William, 18 Bridge Drury Moses, 104 Washington Ekings Robert M, 121 Ellison Harder Charles H, 120 Washington Holt Thomas, 200 Paterson Hudson Henry C, 297 Main Hurley John R, 18 Hamilton McGregor Samuel A, 114 Ellison Moore James, 53 Prince Morrisse James A, 289 Main Oatman Jacob M, 67 Broadway Olden Eugene H, 120 Washington Pulver George B, 256 Main Schnetter Charles, 256 Main Sherwood Samuel S, 1 Colt Townsend & Crooks, 120 Market Vermeulen Abram, 41 N Main Warden Sylvester, 428 Totowa ave Rectifiers. McAteer Daniel, 70 Broadway Raymond John L, 70 Cross *Repeaters. Royle John & Sons, R R av c Grand Ribbon Blocks. Meistermann Joseph, 28 Paterson *Ribbon Paper Cutters. Atherton Robert, Mill opp Ellison Rolling Mills. Passaic Rolling Mill Co, Straight cor Erie R R More in another post.... Melanie

Many of the lists have archives. I don't know if this list does or not. Perhaps someone could respond to that?? I am on a Mack/Mock list and the Archives are the best part. Every msg is held so that it is available for furture use by newcomers to the list. The "threads" are kept together too. Posting info to a web site is great but does not completely cover the ground the way an archived version of the posts would. I have so much stuff to post on my web site that I gave up coding line by line. Throw it into a table format and let WORD do it itself. Just add the "header" and "footer" and bingo! One more web page for the road. My Passiac line is ENGLE. Other NJ surnames listed below. Sandy Hart, RootsWeb Sponsor http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/5372/ http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/a/r/Sandra-R-Hart/index.html/ PA-ENGLE,COVERT,DEVENS,MACK,KNERR/KANARR,FISK, NJ/NY-HART,KEEHNER,KINNEY,DENNIS,MORRISON,PECK -----Original Message----- From: emcrcc <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Directory Postings >I am constantly amazed at how wonderful everyone is on this list --- I >have a suggestion for all those who are posting directory listings. > >It would be great to have this information on some Internet site. This way >anyone can view them, and the URL can be bookmarked by folks for further >reading or research. > >I've been looking down the lists but have yet to find any family --------- >but I very well might rue the day I deleted them because I could find a >connection at some later time. If they were on the internet then I could >keep coming back to them. And others could benefit from them as well. > >To that end, I am offering to volunteer to do all the coding and posting of >this information. I one of those folks who actually write HTML by hand. > >What do y'all think? > >Rory >check out my site: >http://www.erols.com/emcrcc/RGen.htm >

I am constantly amazed at how wonderful everyone is on this list --- I have a suggestion for all those who are posting directory listings. It would be great to have this information on some Internet site. This way anyone can view them, and the URL can be bookmarked by folks for further reading or research. I've been looking down the lists but have yet to find any family --------- but I very well might rue the day I deleted them because I could find a connection at some later time. If they were on the internet then I could keep coming back to them. And others could benefit from them as well. To that end, I am offering to volunteer to do all the coding and posting of this information. I one of those folks who actually write HTML by hand. What do y'all think? Rory check out my site: http://www.erols.com/emcrcc/RGen.htm

Hi Sue, Laurel Grove Cemetery 295 Totowa Road Totowa, NJ 07512 973-956-0711 Maryann Blinn [email protected]

Hello all, It's been great to see how traffic has picked up on this mailing list, the Paterson city directory listings especially have been fun to read. I was hoping someone may be able to find an address and/ or phone number for the Laurel Memorial / Laurel Grove cemetery which I believe is located in Totowa. I recently found out I have many ancestors buried in both the old and new sections there and hope to contact the cemetery for more information. Thanks, Sue

Here is some more from the Paterson Business Directory 1883: Roofers' Materials. Paterson - Wiskeman A., River, Erie Crossing Routing Machines. Paterson - Royle John & Sons, 62 R R av Rubber Goods. Paterson - Smith & Gates, 97 Van Houten Rubber Tubing Machines. Paterson - Royle John & Sons, 62 R R av Rustic Manufacturer. Paterson - Pittet Filex, E 13th nr 5rh av County- McKim Cornelius, Midvale Saboe Maker. Paterson - Sandford Charles, E 39th nr Vreeland av Saddle and Harness Makers. Paterson - Allen D J & Co., 222 Paterson Gollmer Charles, 194 Marshall Hopson Charles R., 21 Main Hopson Wm A., 67 Broadway Maseker John P., 5 N Main Roe John C., 25 Bank Smith H G., 17 Main Winters Peter W., 14 Fair Passaic - Zabriskie Garret T., 22 Passaic County - Roe John C., Haledon More in another post... Melanie