This will introduce me, and at the same time ask for help. I descend from Morgan Young Sr., who is in E.H. Young's book "Our Young Family in America." I lived in Morris Co. for two years, about 1973-74, and liked it very much. I lived at Hickory Tree, just over the hill from Madison, as I remember. Lovely area. My principal interests in Morris Co. are the Young, Losey, and Mills families. I have a lesser, but real, interest in the families the Young women married into: Clark, Carrel, Miller, Drake, Lum, and Pitney. Right now I am looking into two problems. Problem 1. On the Randolph Patriots webpage at www.rootsweb.com/~njmorris/randolph.htm is the statement that James Puff Losey was the son of John Losey Sr. and Jane Young. Other information that I have suggests this is correct, even though all other sites show only Jannetje (Jane) Brouwer as John Losey Sr's. wife. Can anyone refer me to documentation of the marriage of John Losey Sr. and Jane Young? Problem 2. On the same page is the statement that Morgan Young Sr., who married Elizabeth Mills, is the son of Robert Young Sr. Again, other names found on the internet for this man are obviously wrong, but there's a chance this one is right. Can anyone refer me to documentation of the source of this statement? The webpage says this is all "readily found in the libraries of Morris County." Not so, when you live on the West Coast! Best regards to all. Frank Young

Hello, Welcome to the list Frank. I am posting my response to the list because I think it interests several people. You have brought up a question I have been working on myself for some time. I can give you some answers but mostly, I'm afraid, I will add more questions. Jan Loyse was baptized in the Reformed Dutch Church at Brooklyn, NY, 6 October 1700, son of Jacobus and Elizabeth Loyse, sponsors Cornelis Lowysse, Grietje Tilburg. Jan is the Dutch equivalent of the English name John. In the early 1700s the Loyse spelling began to disappear, replaced with Losee in NY and Losey elsewhere, mainly NJ. According to Hurbert Furman Seversmith in his books "Colonial Families of Long Island, New York, Connecticut," Published in 5 volumes in 1939, this Jan/John Losey is the father of James Puff and John Jr. etc. Jannetje Brouwer was baptised in the Reformed Dutch Church at Brooklyn, NY, 8 January 1702, sponsors Steven Beduen, Maria, his wife; she was daughter of Willem and Martha (Boulten) Brouwer. Seversmith "(John) married Jannetje or Jane Brouwer who is believed to be the one baptised in the Reformed Dutch Church at Brooklyn, NY, January 8, 1702" and "He was a resident of Jamaica, NY until shortly before 1731, by that year he had removed to Mendham, NJ where he resided the rest of his life. A survey of his property was made January 9, 1748 by John Hampton, Deputy Surveyor; John Losey died in June, 1765 at Mendham and was probably buried there." It has been suggested to me by another researcher that the Brouwer family of NJ may have adopted Young as a surname. Name withheld as this was merely speculation. The will of John Young of Morris County, dated 23 March 1778 names several of John and Jane's children, ie: John, Elizabeth and Phillip. Their son James Puff Losey married Mary Seley in the First Presbyterian Church at Morristown, NJ 18 October 1750. Mary survived him and became the second wife of Jonathan Pitney, widower of Mary Losey. Mary (Seley) (Losey) Pitney was administratrix of the estate of Jonathan Pitney, 19 October 1778. James Puff and Mary had a son, also called James Puff, who is possibly the one who married Hannah Burwell, daughter of Adam Burwell. Bear with me as I add another cog to this wheel. John Losey, father of James Puff, had a brother William. William had a son Jacobus (James is the English equivalent of the Dutch names Jacobus). Seversmith p. 1872 "Jacobus, baptised in the Reformed Dutch Church at Jamaica, NY March 1, 1730, sponsor Jacobus Loosie. He was rated at Hanover, NJ in 1778, 1779 and in later years after his first cousin James Puff Losey had died. He is believed to have been the Captain James Losey who married a sister of the wife of Captain S. Baldwin, the last named Captain Baldwin having had a first wife who was aunt to one Robert Young (Proceedings of the New Jersey Historical Society, 4th Series, vol. VIII, p. 35). If so, Captain James Losey died January 20, 1809; his wife Hannah died in 1810 and was buried at Rockaway, NJ beside her husband. From the associations in the records it appears to be probable that the following were their issue: i Jacob, whose wife Nancy died 12 (gravestone) or 15 (church record) April 1809,aged 37. ii Joseph, of Rockaway in 1793. Proceedings of the New Jersey Historical Society, 4th Series, vol. VIII, p. 35 says Capt. S. Baldwin's niece married, as 1st wife of, Robert Young and Baldwin married Capt. Losey's sister. Jacobus is brother of Zebulon, father of Isaac Losey of Walpack. I would appreciate any additions, comments, suggestions or even arguments. Who was Robert Young? Is he related to John Young? Who is James Young who was a witness to the will of John Losey Sr. June 4, 1765? Which Losey did Capt. S. Baldwin marry? What is Baldwin's first name? Sharon Rhodes Frank Young wrote: > This will introduce me, and at the same time ask for help. I descend from Morgan Young Sr., who is in E.H. Young's book "Our Young Family in America." > > Problem 1. On the Randolph Patriots webpage at www.rootsweb.com/~njmorris/randolph.htm is the statement that James Puff Losey was the son of John Losey Sr. and Jane Young. > > Problem 2. On the same page is the statement that Morgan Young Sr., who married Elizabeth Mills, is the son of Robert Young Sr. > Frank Young

Hi Frank - YOUNG is a tough family to crack in Morris County. I have been looking for Bethyer YOUNG(S)' parents for years. She was b. in 1805, married Robert C FRANCISCO in 1820, had probably 9 children and d in 1851 all in Morris County. Her parents have to be out there some place. Tim TILLYER in Escondido, CA > > ______________________________