Ed Wiegleb (on Roots-L) said that he's been flamed because he "dared to question the authenticity" of someone's alleged research. A very common reaction, in addition to being totally ignored and/or written off as a troublemaker. I suspect that, if you trace their sources back (never mind that they won't tell you what their sources are), you will end up with Anjou, Halbert's, Virkus, or one of the other tricksters. I've also seen cases where a source is provided but when I checked it, the information did not match what the researcher was claiming. My rule of thumb is that if there is no source (of any kind) provided, the entry is void. If it's a non-primary source, the info can be entered but flagged for future verification. If it's a primary source, the info is likely reliable but the source or supporting info still needs to be eyeballed. Keep questioning the authenticity..... a researcher who is confident of his/her sources/interpretations will defend it. Best to you --- Rich in NH P.S. I sent this to the other groups because I think it's a topic near and dear to all. The original post on Roots-L was asking about the ANJOU Genealogies. There is a website (firstfamilies.com?) that discusses it in more detail and also has a compilation of some of the family names that he bollixed.