Folks STOP! I had an answer from Meg in Wyoming Co in less than 5 minutes from my posting If you want to know the poem write me personally and I will send you what Meg sent me! Isn't the Internet wonderful! Thanks a bunch Kurt less Konfused now in Kalamazoo ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

http://www.famousquotes.me.uk/nursery_rhymes/mondays_child.htm >The saying that begins Monday's child is full of grace, Tuesday child >etc. I am sure there is someone out there who knows the complete poem. >

OK! I know it isn't exactly genealogy but it is related. It deals with birthdays! :) The saying that begins Monday's child is full of grace, Tuesday child etc. I am sure there is someone out there who knows the complete poem. We can get parts of it but not the whole thing. Can anybody help us get the full poem? Thanks in advance for the help. Konfused Kurt in Kalamazoo ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Dear List Members: The fifth lecture in the "Exploring Your Jersey Roots" series will be held this coming Wednesday, 10/8, in the NJ State Archives' Manuscript Reading Room starting at 6:30 p.m. The series is co-sponsored with the Genealogical Society of New Jersey, and runs Wednesday evenings through November 5th. This week's presentation will be given by Janet T. Riemer, a preservation archivist and genealogist, on the subject "Preserving Your Family Documents." The session will provide practical information about caring for and storing family documents and photographs. Her advice should be useful for anyone who is the keeper of heirloom family papers or photo albums. The lecture will begin at 6:30 p.m. in the Manuscript Reading Room at the State Archives, 225 West State St. - 2nd Floor, Trenton, NJ 08625-0307. Also, a reminder that the Archives' Microfilm Reading Room will have extended public hours to 6:00 p.m. that evening. Free public parking is available in the State House Garage until 5:00 p.m. and behind the State Archives Building, 225 West State Street, after 3:30 p.m. Registration for the "Exploring Your Jersey Roots" series is $8 per lecture. Payment is made to the Genealogical Society of New Jersey. To register, or for more information, contact C. Arthur Lawton III, 203 West Upper Ferry Road, Trenton, NJ 08628-2719, tel. 609-777-3704, e-mail: art.lawton@att.net Since seating is limited, we advise that you contact Mr. Lawton by telephone or e-mail if you are sending registration during the last week before a lecture, or plan to pay at the door. For information about the remaining lectures in the series, and directions, see the State Archives' or GSNJ's website: www.njarchives.org www.gsnj.org Thank you, and we hope to see you there. Joan M. Lowry, President Genealogical Society of New Jersey mailto:jml-gsnj@earthlink.net

F.Y.I. From the National Genealogical Society's weekly newsletter. Marybeth C. ========= << News Item :-:-:-:-:-:-:-: "Fall Into Genealogy" Family History Workshop in Monmouth County, New Jersey Celebrate genealogy during National Family History Month in October! Join fellow genealogists and 'tune-up' your skills at the Monmouth County Genealogy Society's "Fall Into Genealogy" Workshop on Saturday, October 4, 2003. This event is part of MCGS's Family History Month activities. The following topics will be presented: Genealogy 101, Vital Records: Birth, Marriage and Deaths, Census Research, Immigrant Origins, and Organization for the Family Historian. The workshop will be held at the Eatontown Community Center, 68 Broad Street, Eatontown, NJ. Please bring your own lunch, MCGS will provide beverages and desserts. For further details, including registration fees, please contact Michelle Chubenko, (732) 969-2652 or visit the MCGS Web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njmcgs/events.htm -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >>

F.Y.I. From the National Genealogical Society's weekly newsletter. Marybeth C. ========= << News Item :-:-:-:-:-:-:-: "Fall Into Genealogy" Family History Workshop in Monmouth County, New Jersey Celebrate genealogy during National Family History Month in October! Join fellow genealogists and 'tune-up' your skills at the Monmouth County Genealogy Society's "Fall Into Genealogy" Workshop on Saturday, October 4, 2003. This event is part of MCGS's Family History Month activities. The following topics will be presented: Genealogy 101, Vital Records: Birth, Marriage and Deaths, Census Research, Immigrant Origins, and Organization for the Family Historian. The workshop will be held at the Eatontown Community Center, 68 Broad Street, Eatontown, NJ. Please bring your own lunch, MCGS will provide beverages and desserts. For further details, including registration fees, please contact Michelle Chubenko, (732) 969-2652 or visit the MCGS Web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njmcgs/events.htm -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >>

From the Boonton Weekly Bulletin I do not have these papers, just the index. Cookerow, Isaac m. 16 Nov 1904 Miss Bertha Miller - published 24 Nov 1904 Cookerow, Martin B. d. 20 Mar 1905, age 41y 7m 17d, at Pottstown PA - published 30 Mar 1905 Cocheu, Theodore, Jr. d. 19 Oct 1917, age 53, b. Brooklyn - published 25 Oct 1917 This entry is a bit confusing. But here it is: Cookreau, Jacob W. m. 30 Dec 1911 Mary E. Cookreau, wid/o Jacob W. - published 4 Jan 1912 Regards, Brianne Kelly-Bly Webmaster - NJGenWeb - Morris County <http://www.rootsweb.com/~njmorris> and Sussex County <http://www.rootsweb.com/~njsussex> > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathy Fisher [mailto:kagofish@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:50 PM > To: NJMORRIS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NJMORRIS] Cookreau/Cookaroo/Cookerow > > > The Cookerow's - they lived off Taylortown Rd - the > ruins of their house is still there. The ruins are > protected as it is part of a county Park - Pyramid > Mountain. It is in Montville Township - the Montville > section. I have a picture of their house and there are > lots of stories about them such as the wife used to > walk into town to do laundry for people. Tough stock > !!! > > We would love to know more about them (such as why > they moved here etc) and I will dig through our files > and get you some information. We have a pot from the > house that is in the township museum - a tad rusty. > > Kathy Fisher > Montville Township Historical Society & Museum > --- Joyce Servis <jservis@mail.com> wrote: > > I'm looking for information on the family of Ezra > > and George Cookreau > > who lived in Montville at the turn of the 20th > > century. Ezra married > > Iva Sautter in l900 and had 2 living children Pearl > > (b 1910) and Violet > > (b.1905) (who married a man name Louis Blowers). > > George and his wife > > (?) died around l915-20 and their 4 or 5 children > > were sent to Kansas on > > the Orphan Train. > > > > Any help will be appreciated. > > > > Joyce > > > > Also looking for info on Sautter (E. Orange NJ & > > Virginia), Osborne, > > parents of Wm and Albert (born 1890's) probably in > > Passaic Cty. > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com >

The Cookerow's - they lived off Taylortown Rd - the ruins of their house is still there. The ruins are protected as it is part of a county Park - Pyramid Mountain. It is in Montville Township - the Montville section. I have a picture of their house and there are lots of stories about them such as the wife used to walk into town to do laundry for people. Tough stock !!! We would love to know more about them (such as why they moved here etc) and I will dig through our files and get you some information. We have a pot from the house that is in the township museum - a tad rusty. Kathy Fisher Montville Township Historical Society & Museum --- Joyce Servis <jservis@mail.com> wrote: > I'm looking for information on the family of Ezra > and George Cookreau > who lived in Montville at the turn of the 20th > century. Ezra married > Iva Sautter in l900 and had 2 living children Pearl > (b 1910) and Violet > (b.1905) (who married a man name Louis Blowers). > George and his wife > (?) died around l915-20 and their 4 or 5 children > were sent to Kansas on > the Orphan Train. > > Any help will be appreciated. > > Joyce > > Also looking for info on Sautter (E. Orange NJ & > Virginia), Osborne, > parents of Wm and Albert (born 1890's) probably in > Passaic Cty. > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

I'm looking for information on the family of Ezra and George Cookreau who lived in Montville at the turn of the 20th century. Ezra married Iva Sautter in l900 and had 2 living children Pearl (b 1910) and Violet (b.1905) (who married a man name Louis Blowers). George and his wife (?) died around l915-20 and their 4 or 5 children were sent to Kansas on the Orphan Train. Any help will be appreciated. Joyce Also looking for info on Sautter (E. Orange NJ & Virginia), Osborne, parents of Wm and Albert (born 1890's) probably in Passaic Cty.

Joseph Woolever, b 1834, Washington Township, Morris Co., NJ. Son of Jacob and Mary (mnu) Woolever. Spouse: Sophiah Miller, married 9 Oct 1858, Washington Township, Morris Co., NJ 1860 WOOLEVER SOPHIA MORRIS PG246 WASHINGTON TWP Elizabeth Miller 68 Sophia [Miller] Woolever 29 Willaim Woolever 5/12 Trying to find more info on Wm & Joseph Stewart

Dear Linda , Reeve and others Unfortunately, the on-going lecture series being co-sponsored by the NJ State Archives and the Genealogical Society of New Jersey are not being taped. The syllabus material from the lectures will be available for purchase once the lecture series has been completed. The final purchase price of the syllabus has not yet been determined as we do not yet know the final number of pages that will be included. Please check the GSNJ's website: www.gsnj.org for additional information on purchasing copies of the syllabus. The information will be posted there as soon as it can be determined. The lecture series so far has been very informative and interesting and the remaining lectures (Wednesday evenings, through Nov 5) promise to continue to be exciting. For more information on the lectures remaining, go to the NJ State Archives website at: http://www.njarchives.org/links/archives.html or http://www.njarchives.org/links/jersey-roots.html or you can find the link from the GSNJ website: www.gsnj.org Thank you all for your interest. We wish you could all make the lecture series and enjoy the experience. Sincerely Joan M. Lowry Joan M. Lowry Genealogical Society of New Jersey mailto:jml-gsnj@earthlink.net

I recently posted a Mourison timeline in which I tried to point out that the Morris County NJ Mourison family most likely descended from Mourits Mouritszen, son of Frederick Pieterszen Mourits of Ulster County, NY. I have updated that and have further notes if anyone is interested. Trying to find a spouse for Mourits, I noticed the following: Frederick & Jannetje Mauritz Judic 9-17-1741 sp. Isaac Mauritz; Jesyntje Mauritz Jacob & Tryntje Mouritsen-Mourits Jan. 1745 sp. Johs. Mouritsen Judikje Mouritsen (their first son) Abraham & Jacomina Mourison- Judick (DOB Oct. 15) 11-2-1746 (first daughter) Abraham & Jacomina Mourison -Maurits 9-25-1748 (first son) Johannis & Francyna Doremus -Mouris 1-18-1747 sp. Judick Mouris (second son) Johannis & Francyntje Deremus- Judic (DOB 1-27) 3-13-1757 (second daughter) It looks like the naming pattern is suggesting a mother named Judicke. I would also think the sponsor Judicke of 1745 & 47 is the child's grandmother. It looks like Mourits and Judicke had the following children: Frederick, Pieter, Isaac, Abraham, Hendrick, Jacob, and Francyntie. There is also the mysterious Jesyntje Mauritz mentioned above*. I could find no further mention of her. Judicke does not appear to have been a common name. Who could she have been? She does not appear to have been a daughter of Pieter and Judith (Rapalje)Van Nest, whose children were living in Somerset County by the mid 1680's. Pieter Jr. sponsored Mourits' son Frederick in 1701.Their brood seems to be spoken for, and they don't have a known daughter Judith. Someone who does is Hendrick Corssen Vroom. He is believed to have moved to Somerset County as early as 1683. He married Josina (Josyntje) Pietersen Van Nest, daughter of Pieter and Judith Van Nest. Hendrick and Josyntje had Judith, bap. 16 March 1679 in Flatlands, Long Island. A search of the Somerset records fails to locate a spouse for her. I haven't found anything suggesting she died young or moved and/or married elswhere. It might explain this: Jan Jacobusse Lena Pouwelse -Aelty"e 11 June 1738 sp. Frederick Vroom Jannetie Jacobusse >From Second River Reformed records, Frederick is certainly the Frederick Mourison above.The surname Vroom does not show up at all in any early Morris County area records I have seen, and I believe this is very significant. This would also explain why Hendrick Mourison (named for Hendrick Vroom) appears to be one of the older brothers, with his son Jacob born about 1735. After the death of Hendrick Vroom, Josyntje married Jacob Sebring; I believe she is a witnessess at the following: Stevens, Joseph and wife--Sara. Witnesses: Jacob Sebrenge and wife. 6 Aug. 1712 (SCHQ II) Stevens, Joseph's 'and wife' is Geertruy Mourits, sister to Mourits. Joseph died bef. 28 April 1713 and she married Ryce Vroom 6 Sept. 1718. (SCHQ IV p.159) As he was the youngest son of Hendrick and Jesyntje, she became her own sister-in-law ! No known children or probate. It looks at this point that Jacob was originally married to Josyntje's sister Maria. Early Somerset marriages are a quite nebulous territory. ("Sebring Collections" by Walter Wilson Sebring (p.9) certainly morphs Jacob Sr. (b. 1634) & Jr. into the same person. This is the source I have that Jacob married Maria Van Nest. They apparently were not parents.) Any devil's advocates out there? Take care, Kevin *And another mysterious Mourison female sponser, Janneke: Frederick & Jannitie Mauritss -Syntie 20 March 1748 sp. Isaac Mauritss; Janneke Mauritss

Debbie and all Keep an eye on the GSNJ's website: www.gsnj.org Once the lecture series is completed - the last lecture date is Nov 5 - GSNJ will be making the syllabus materials available for purchase. Since the syllabus materials are not all printed yet - the final page count and cost is not yet known. Also, I don't know if they will be selling the individual lectures syllabus or only the whole set... Regards Joan Joan M. Lowry mailto:jmlowry@earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: Debbie Bleger [mailto:dbleger@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 4:37 PM To: Joan M. Lowry Subject: Re: [NJMORRIS] FW: Internet Sources for NJ Genealogy, 10/1 Lecture Hi Joan, This sounds like a wonderful lecture. Unfortunately, I live in Detroit and can't attend, although many of my ancestors have New Jersey roots. Can anyone take notes and post them to the list after the lecture? Thank you. Debbie Bleger "Joan M. Lowry" wrote: > Thought I'd pass this along and maybe you all would like to come and join us > for the lecture! > > See you there. > Joan > > Joan M. Lowry > mailto:jmlowry@earthlink.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph R Klett [mailto:joseph.klett@SOS.STATE.NJ.US] > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:12 PM > Subject: Internet Sources for NJ Genealogy, 10/1 Lecture > > Dear List Members: > > The fourth lecture in the "Exploring Your Jersey Roots" series will be > held this Wednesday, 10/1, in the State Archives' Manuscript Reading > Room starting at 6:30 p.m. The series is co-sponsored with the > Genealogical Society of New Jersey, and runs Wednesday evenings > through November 5th. > > This week's presentation will be given by well-known genealogist and > lecturer John Konvalinka on the subject "Internet Sources for New Jersey > Genealogy." The session will highlight sites of New Jersey repositories > with genealogical collections, and other Internet sources with valuable > information on New Jersey families. > > There are still a few spaces available for the 10/1 session. Also, a > reminder that the Archives' Microfilm Reading Room will have extended > public hours to 6:00 p.m. that evening. Free public parking is > available in the State House Garage until 5:00 p.m. and behind the State > Archives Building, 225 West State Street, after 3:30 p.m. > > Registration for the "Exploring Your Jersey Roots" series is $8 per > lecture. Payment is made to the Genealogical Society of New Jersey. To > register, or for more information, contact C. Arthur Lawton III, 203 > West Upper Ferry Road, Trenton, NJ 08628-2719, tel. 609-777-3704, > e-mail: art.lawton@att.net > > Since seating is limited, we advise that you contact Mr. Lawton by > telephone or e-mail if you are sending registration during the last week > before a lecture, or plan to pay at the door. > > For information about the five lectures remaining in the series, and > directions, see the State Archives' or GSNJ's website: > > www.njarchives.org > www.gsnj.org > > Hope to see you there... > > Joseph R. Klett > Chief of Archives > > P.S. Please feel free to forward this message to relevant lists.

Thought I'd pass this along and maybe you all would like to come and join us for the lecture! See you there. Joan Joan M. Lowry mailto:jmlowry@earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: Joseph R Klett [mailto:joseph.klett@SOS.STATE.NJ.US] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:12 PM Subject: Internet Sources for NJ Genealogy, 10/1 Lecture Dear List Members: The fourth lecture in the "Exploring Your Jersey Roots" series will be held this Wednesday, 10/1, in the State Archives' Manuscript Reading Room starting at 6:30 p.m. The series is co-sponsored with the Genealogical Society of New Jersey, and runs Wednesday evenings through November 5th. This week's presentation will be given by well-known genealogist and lecturer John Konvalinka on the subject "Internet Sources for New Jersey Genealogy." The session will highlight sites of New Jersey repositories with genealogical collections, and other Internet sources with valuable information on New Jersey families. There are still a few spaces available for the 10/1 session. Also, a reminder that the Archives' Microfilm Reading Room will have extended public hours to 6:00 p.m. that evening. Free public parking is available in the State House Garage until 5:00 p.m. and behind the State Archives Building, 225 West State Street, after 3:30 p.m. Registration for the "Exploring Your Jersey Roots" series is $8 per lecture. Payment is made to the Genealogical Society of New Jersey. To register, or for more information, contact C. Arthur Lawton III, 203 West Upper Ferry Road, Trenton, NJ 08628-2719, tel. 609-777-3704, e-mail: art.lawton@att.net Since seating is limited, we advise that you contact Mr. Lawton by telephone or e-mail if you are sending registration during the last week before a lecture, or plan to pay at the door. For information about the five lectures remaining in the series, and directions, see the State Archives' or GSNJ's website: www.njarchives.org www.gsnj.org Hope to see you there... Joseph R. Klett Chief of Archives P.S. Please feel free to forward this message to relevant lists.

Time for genealogy again so am posting again my stonewall in the hopes someone new is on with some info for me. Norma JOHN BUSH brn ca. 1819 and died around > 1875-1900. I cannot find this man and I have looked forever. He is my > Greatgrandfather, I have my GGM CLARRISSA WIESE BUSH, and the 3 children in census > records after 1870. I only have one with him on it in1870 in Chester, N.J. > with one child, Alvenneta. Two more were born my grandmother Mary Bush Stillwell in 1872 and Martha Bush Apgar Day > 1874. They all continued to live in Washington Twp. but where did he die, am > pulling out my hair. > Norma

Dear Norma, The New Jersey Index of Wills & Inventories lists the following: John Bush, Somerset Co. Will filed 1897, document #6571R John C. Bush, Bergen Co. W. 1885, #7370B John S. Bush, Hunterdon Co. Inventory (I.)1876, #7599J Now go to www.familysearch.org, the LDS genealogy website, where you may search under New Jersey in the Library or Order section until you find the Wills documents for said county. (If you don't find it, go on to the next paragraph, & they will help you find the tape numbers.) Then go to the nearest LDS Family History Center, where they most graciously will order for you the tapes of the original documents for viewing with their viewers at the center for a nominal cost to cover mailing. (No, I'm not a member.) For Morris County, you will find a list of similar tapes at www.rootsweb.com/~njmorris/vitalrecords/ldsfilms.htm The other counties' tapes won't be on that site, but it will show you an excellent example of what I'm talking about. I'm betting on John Bush of Somerset County, just south of Chester. Bush, Day and Apgar families have lived in northern New Jersey for centuries. I'm sure you have checked them out on Ancestry.com. The Ancestry World Tree section is free. Caroline Lowman (I'm a Chapter Registrar for DAR.) (Readers - have you all checked out www.awindowsouth.com ?) ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:38:34 -0400 >From: franor <franor@atmc.net> >Subject: [NJMORRIS] John Bush >To: NJMORRIS-L@rootsweb.com > >Time for genealogy again so am posting again my stonewall in the hopes someone new is on with some info for me. >Norma > > JOHN BUSH brn ca. 1819 and died around >> 1875-1900. I cannot find this man and I have looked forever. He is my >> Greatgrandfather, I have my GGM CLARRISSA WIESE BUSH, and the 3 children in census >> records after 1870. I only have one with him on it in1870 in Chester, N.J. >> with one child, Alvenneta. Two more were born my grandmother Mary Bush Stillwell in 1872 and Martha Bush Apgar Day >> 1874. They all continued to live in Washington Twp. but where did he die, am >> pulling out my hair. >> Norma >

Would someone who goes on this tour please take a few notes and make a report to the List? *Please*? I live in Arizona, don't travel much, and this "Historic Cemetery Tour" just sounds *tremendous.* I have belonged to several NJ genealogical organizations so have received these kind of announcements that I just bite my lip over. But this one really sounds especially exciting.... Kathleen in Phoenix (It may be "back to school," but we are still wearing our summer clothes and our air conditioning is still on.) In a message dated 9/25/03 3:10:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time, kdw72696@yahoo.com writes: > Sunday, Oct. 5, 2003 is the second "Historic Cemetery Tour" at the > First Reformed Church of Pompton Plains for 2003. It starts at 1:00 pm > and will last for about an hour to 90 minutes. A Donation is $7.00 is > appreciated. Bring your donation with you on the day of the tour. > > The tour begins in front of the First Reformed Church Sanctuary and is > limited to the first 25 people. It will be cancelled in case of rain. > Wear good comfortable shoes. > > Lean about famous/noted people buried in the cemetery, including a > recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor from the Civil War, a > Civil War general, and a Civil War Sgt. who lived to be 101 years > old(even though he fought in the battles of Williamsburg, > Frederickburg, and Gettysburg). Learn about traditional Christian and > American burial practices -past to present and about grave stone > symbolism. > > The Church and cemetery are located at 525 Newark Pompton Turnpike in > Pompton Plains, NJ [Morris County], across the street from Pequannock > Township Hall where ample parking is available. > > Contact Ed Engelbart with any questions at (973) 839-6384. > > --------------- > Dave Wisneski > Pequannock, NJ > >

Sunday, Oct. 5, 2003 is the second "Historic Cemetery Tour" at the First Reformed Church of Pompton Plains for 2003. It starts at 1:00 pm and will last for about an hour to 90 minutes. A Donation is $7.00 is appreciated. Bring your donation with you on the day of the tour. The tour begins in front of the First Reformed Church Sanctuary and is limited to the first 25 people. It will be cancelled in case of rain. Wear good comfortable shoes. Lean about famous/noted people buried in the cemetery, including a recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor from the Civil War, a Civil War general, and a Civil War Sgt. who lived to be 101 years old(even though he fought in the battles of Williamsburg, Frederickburg, and Gettysburg). Learn about traditional Christian and American burial practices -past to present and about grave stone symbolism. The Church and cemetery are located at 525 Newark Pompton Turnpike in Pompton Plains, NJ [Morris County], across the street from Pequannock Township Hall where ample parking is available. Contact Ed Engelbart with any questions at (973) 839-6384. --------------- Dave Wisneski Pequannock, NJ

A library or professional genealogist might be interested in picking up a pile of GMNJ on eBay - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3552671871 Best regards, Tim Cutler Morristown

My gggreat-grandfather is Alfred A. ESTEY or ESTE, b. 1803 in NJ.  His death certificate states that he is the son of Moses ESTE & Anne KIRKPATRICK but I can't seem to find any information for him.  Everyplace I look he is not listed as a child for them.  Does anyone have any information on him? thanks cindy este loy