Among the very early immigrants to the colonies were French Huguenots who fled to other countries inc. England & the Netherlands to escape religious persecution, took on Dutch names and/or spouses, then came to America with Dutch or English colonists. Examples include Vincent Rongion/Runyon m. Bouchierre/Boucher. The more genealogy I do the more I realize data that appears to be set in concrete is not necessarily so. For example, published biographies of two of my ancestors or relatives indicate they were "descended from a Frenchman who came with Lafayette and fought with him in the Revolution". He may well have been of French descent & fought with Lafayette (as did everyone else in Morris Co, NJ; those who didn't support the Revolution found it in their best interests to leave before they were expelled or otherwise.) However, said ancestor (whom I'm not going to name until I'm sure - well, "sure") may have been the grandson of a Frenchman who immigrated to the colonies decades earlier. After years of research I'm learning to take everything with a grain of salt & enjoy working on the big puzzle, realizing I may never find all the ancestors I seek. But I sure enjoy all the nice e-friends & distant cousins I've met while learning to smile & be patient! It's a fun game & hobby, not something to take too seriously. Amazing how so many relationships have gradually become clear & pieces fall into place unexpectedly. For example, all those unfamiliar neighborhood families of 1800 Randolph Twnp have turned out to be related in one way or another - and generally in several ways. Caroline :<) While you're at it, please check out educational www.awindowsouth.com & pass on the message if you wish. New drawings!

Thanks Ann, I was aware of the facts you presented. My problem is there are very few records for NJ outside of NJ. What the LDS has is restricted and can only be viewed at Salt Lake City. So the only way I would be able to look at any records is to go. Michael Clouse in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: GarMess@aol.com To: batboy@glis.net Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [NJMORRIS] CLOUSE, Leonard, NJ b. ca 1760 Hi, Leonard Clouse married 2nd Elizabeth Messecar, widow of John Messecar. 2 of his daughters married into the Messecar family,too. I would look at early Sussex County records, which is where John and Elizabeth came from. There appear to be strong connections with the Sovereign family. Ann Messecar

Hi Friends, I have found a "hint" that the John Cook, who is my ggggg great grandfather, may be the son of Hendrick Van Der Cook. Anyone have any info to share on this family? I have listed a Cook family bible on www.biblerecords.com. The people are the family of this John Cook, children and second wife as well as some nieces and nephews. Here's hoping someone knows something, Maryann

Hi, Please grant me one more request. I am having a hard time getting email to you, it keeps coming back. So will try one more time. You supplied the name of James's parents. I would appreciate it, if you would check for his Father's Parents. Charles H. Tunis, b: 1839, Morristown. Maybe 1840 or up census would have his parents. If I can get that I would probably be able to find the rest of the family. Thanks for all you do.. Lea

Here’s the link - this is a good looking resource on the county – SJK Title of item: History of CHESTER, NEW JERSEY - mint! Seller: gailsk Starts: Feb-03-04 12:54:32 PST Ends: Feb-10-04 12:54:32 PST Price: Currently $9.89 To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?RedirectEnter&partner=888801&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI%2Edll%3FViewItem%26item%3D3585333097%26category%3D41893%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AB%3AEF%3AUS%3A1

I'm looking for any Clouse family in New Jersey. Leonard Clouse is born ca 1760 in Sussex County and married Elizabeth Sovereign 1785 at Schooley's Mountain, Morris County. Would like to find his parents and siblings. Michael Clouse Imlay City Michigan

George Andrew Ammerman b. 6-10-1852 at McCainsville, Morris Co. NJ. d. 7-2-1886 same place. He marr. on 1-1-1880 to Mary Elizabeth Harle. She was b. Jun 1855 NJ. and d. 1931, NJ.. They had 3 children; Audley, b 11-30-1880 d. 2-17-1963 Morris Co. He marr. Mary Elizabeth Ebner on 11-15-1905 2nd child was Fred L. b.Dec 1882 NJ. marr. Catherine A. Hairhouse. and 3rd child Frank G. b. Feb 1886 who marr. Odessa. I would like place of births for the children, also death places marr. dates and places also dates and places for spouses. Thank you, Duane -- Donna & Duane DeVoe Come Visit Lena, Illinois! http://www.villageoflena.com

In a message dated 2/5/04 8:33:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, devoe@le-win.net writes: Isaac Ike b. 1824 NJ. d. 1906 NJ. bur. in Presbyterian Cem, Sucussanna, NJ. marr. Julia Spencer b. 1830, had these children: Evaline, b. Oct 1847,marr. Hudson J. Butterworth Jacob b. Jan 1851 marr. Emma L. Tiger, Sarah b. Mar 1856, marr. Luther H. Titus, and Edward b. 11-10-1864. Any help would be great! thank you, Duane Hi Duane, Well not sure what you are looking for, but here is what I came up with on a quick search: Oh my goodness, I can't believe it! Your Ikes in 1870 live four houses down from my NJ ancestors!!! My ancestors are listed as Egnot Sheazer & family on the 1870 census (but is usually spelled Shazer or Shasser or Schassar, etc). That is so neat, our ancestors knew each other!! :) In the 1870 census, I have an Isaac Ike, age 45 (born in 1824) living in Roxbury, Morris County, New Jersey. He is a farmer. He is living with Julia age 42, Mary age 21, Jacob age 19, Sarah age 14, Edward age 5. There is also a Jacob Ike, age 81 living with them. This could be Isaac's father or grandfather? There is also another Isaac Ike in the 1870 census living in Frankford, Sussex Co., NJ. He is age 25, born in 1844 in New Jersey, and is living with a George (?) Ike age 54, Sarah Ike age 52, Johnas(?) Ike age 18, George E. Ike age 12. They live next door to an Albert Ike age 28, Caroline Ike age 26, Edgar Ike age 1 and a Laurie(?)E. age 8. Not sure if these are yours or not, but thought I'd throw them in too. In the 1880 census, it looks like your Isaac remarried, he is listed as still living in Roxbury, Morris, NJ age 55 but his wife is now Margrett(?) age 46, they live with Isaac's son Edward G. Ike age 15, Herburt Hoole age 16 listed as 'step son', Luther O. Hoole age 14 step son, Iathma Hoole age 12 step daughter, Elsworth Hoole age 5 step son. There are also many people listed as 'boarders' with them. Listed in the 1887-1888 Dover, New Jersey Directory is an Isaac A. Ike, Location 1 is "Randolph c. Elliot". Isaac A. Ike is also listed in the 1890-1891 Dover, New Jersey Directory. He is listed as a 'laborer' and Location 2 is "Randolph Avenue Corner Blackwell." There is an Isaac Ike listed in the 1850 Lafayette Township, Sussex County, New Jersey census, but no image is available so I don't know who was with him. There is also an Isaac Ike listed in the 1860 Roxbury Township, Morris County, New Jersey census, but no image is available for that one either. Hope some of this helped! Happy hunting! Kerri

Duane, exactly what information are you looking for? I'd like to help but I don't know what you are trying to find. Kerri In a message dated 2/5/04 8:48:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, devoe@le-win.net writes: Luther H. Titus b. Oct 1852 NJ. (no death date or place and no marr. date or place, marr. Sarah Ike, b. Mar 1856 at ? Could also use Luther's parents names. They had these children; Lillian M. b. Jan 1875, William E. Aug 1877 Nj. marr. Clara ? Pearl Wane b. Dec. 1879 NJ. marr. Arthur Lucas, Peter Isaac b. 1-29-1886 NJ. marr. Mary E. ? Mary Evelyn b. Sep 1888 NJ. Andrew T. b. Dec. 1890 NJ.and Leslie E. titus b. Mar 1896 NJ. marr. Bertha M. ? can you help with this family? I hope so! Thank you, Duane

By coincidence, I found the answer to your question last night, taking an idle moment to check out Spencers in the 1850 census. So you picked a good time to ask your question. Samuel Spencer and Prudence Mulford of Chatham had a daughter, Julia A. She was 19 in 1850 when the census taker went through. Samuel Spencer 1795-1866 was the son of William Spencer and Apphia (Affie) Genung. A lot of their lines have been traced ― Genung, Lyman, Hall. Julia was named for her aunt, Julia Ann (Spencer) Ashbee (d, 1843), youngest child of Wm and Affie. >>> "Donna DeVoe" <devoe@le-win.net> 02/05/04 07:32PM >>> Isaac Ike b. 1824 NJ. d. 1906 NJ. bur. in Presbyterian Cem, Sucussanna, NJ. marr. Julia Spencer b. 1830, had these children: Evaline, b. Oct 1847,marr. Hudson J. Butterworth Jacob b. Jan 1851 marr. Emma L. Tiger, Sarah b. Mar 1856, marr. Luther H. Titus, and Edward b. 11-10-1864. Any help would be great! thank you, Duane

The name looks Dutch colonial. Early Dutch followed the pattern of using their father's first name as their second name. (or they used the place they came from, hence all the "vans", or sometimes their occupation.) Tunis is a Dutch first name, so you might check New Amsterdam sources, or Bergen County sources. Many of the Dutch family in Morris County came up (that is south) the Passaic settling in north Hanover, Montvale, and other areas in the north side. >>> <KBar4616@aol.com> 02/05/04 06:30PM >>> Hi Lea! I think I found your man! Here is the information from the: 1870 Morristown, Morris County, New Jersey census: TUNIS, Charles H. age 31, male, white, Carpenter, born in New Jersey, both parents born in US. TUNIS, Mary E, age 32, female, white, keeps house, born in New Jersey, both parents born in US. TUNIS, James A., age 4, male, white, born in New Jersey, both parents born in US. TUNIS, Nellie(?) E, age 3, female, white, born in New Jersey, both parents born in US. In a message dated 2/5/04 3:13:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, jule@iowatelecom.net writes: Hi, Hope I am sending this to the right place. I am trying to find the parents of this man, born in your county.. James Arthur Tunis, b: 11-14-1866 Fathers name, Tunis Mothers maiden name, Searing Think he belongs with the tunis famlies I find on your website, but don"t know which one. I will be very appreciative if you would help me. Thanks for your time. Lea

Luther H. Titus b. Oct 1852 NJ. (no death date or place and no marr. date or place, marr. Sarah Ike, b. Mar 1856 at ? Could also use Luther's parents names. They had these children; Lillian M. b. Jan 1875, William E. Aug 1877 Nj. marr. Clara ? Pearl Wane b. Dec. 1879 NJ. marr. Arthur Lucas, Peter Isaac b. 1-29-1886 NJ. marr. Mary E. ? Mary Evelyn b. Sep 1888 NJ. Andrew T. b. Dec. 1890 NJ.and Leslie E. titus b. Mar 1896 NJ. marr. Bertha M. ? can you help with this family? I hope so! Thank you, Duane -- Donna & Duane DeVoe Come Visit Lena, Illinois! http://www.villageoflena.com

Isaac Ike b. 1824 NJ. d. 1906 NJ. bur. in Presbyterian Cem, Sucussanna, NJ. marr. Julia Spencer b. 1830, had these children: Evaline, b. Oct 1847,marr. Hudson J. Butterworth Jacob b. Jan 1851 marr. Emma L. Tiger, Sarah b. Mar 1856, marr. Luther H. Titus, and Edward b. 11-10-1864. Any help would be great! thank you, Duane -- Donna & Duane DeVoe Come Visit Lena, Illinois! http://www.villageoflena.com

Hi Lea! I think I found your man! Here is the information from the: 1870 Morristown, Morris County, New Jersey census: TUNIS, Charles H. age 31, male, white, Carpenter, born in New Jersey, both parents born in US. TUNIS, Mary E, age 32, female, white, keeps house, born in New Jersey, both parents born in US. TUNIS, James A., age 4, male, white, born in New Jersey, both parents born in US. TUNIS, Nellie(?) E, age 3, female, white, born in New Jersey, both parents born in US. In a message dated 2/5/04 3:13:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, jule@iowatelecom.net writes: Hi, Hope I am sending this to the right place. I am trying to find the parents of this man, born in your county.. James Arthur Tunis, b: 11-14-1866 Fathers name, Tunis Mothers maiden name, Searing Think he belongs with the tunis famlies I find on your website, but don"t know which one. I will be very appreciative if you would help me. Thanks for your time. Lea

Hudson J. Butterworth b. 1846 d. 1917 bur. Presbyterian Cem. Succasunna, Morris Co.. He marr. Evaline Ike. She was b. Oct. 1847 d. 1930 bur. also in Pres. Cem. These are their children; William b. 1873, Anna J. 1875, marr. Joseph H. Mott, John A. Aug 1879 NJ. and Ida L. b. 1884 all bur. in Prs. Cem. Can you give me better dates and info on the next generation? Thank you, Duane -- Donna & Duane DeVoe Come Visit Lena, Illinois! http://www.villageoflena.com

Hi, Hope I am sending this to the right place. I am trying to find the parents of this man, born in your county.. James Arthur Tunis, b: 11-14-1866 Fathers name, Tunis Mothers maiden name, Searing Think he belongs with the tunis famlies I find on your website, but don"t know which one. I will be very appreciative if you would help me. Thanks for your time. Lea

I forget where I found this; if it was here, then please forgive the duplication. I got a kick out of the railroad maps, as all of my Morris County ancestors worked in the mines or on the railroads. http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gmdhtml/rrhtml/rrmap.html Janet

F.Y.I. From the USGenWeb <<DAILY-UPLOADS-D Digest V04 #25>> Good luck. Marybeth C. ========= << http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nj/essex/cemeteries/hillside.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nj/morris/cemeteries/gateofheaven.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nj/warren/cemeteries/stphillipsjames.txt >>

In a message dated 1/31/04 7:20:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, kdw72696@yahoo.com writes: Like this? The Morris County directory for 1875-76 : containing the names of the inhabitants of Morristown, Dover, Booton, together with a business directory of the principal towns of Morris County, and much other miscellaneous information. New Jersey?: J.H. Lant, 1875, 168 pgs. Dave Hi Dave, If you have time, would you be so kind as to see if there is a Shazer/Shasser/Schaser/Sheazer listed there? I have an Ignot/Egnot/Ignatz in my tree (gggrandfather) that I am researching for Morris Co. and would like to see if he's listed there. I have found the name spelled all of the above ways, and on the 1870 census he is listed as Sheazer with wife Eliza (have also seen it as Alice) with occupation of miner. Thanks for any help you can give!! Happy hunting! Kerri :)

Hello, Fellow Researchers, I am trying to find the name of the first wife of my ggggg great grandfather, John Cook, of Whippany. All I know for sure is that he and she are the parents of Jemima Cook, who m. Jacob Halsey, and Mary ( Polly ) Cook, who m. Jacob Green, the Rev. Jacob Green's nephew. Other children were Ann, m. Peter Sloat, and David, m. a Baldwin. Mary Alling, w/o General Pruden Alling calls herself aunt to these children. John's children by his second wife, Mabel Johnson ( d/o Alexander ) , were Samuel ( Mary Coe ), John, Phebe ( m. Millard Coddington), Timothy, Sarah, and Alexander. I need the names of John Cook's parents, as well. All I know is he does not appear to belong to either Ellis Cook family. I know a lot about this family, but not where they came from. Here's hoping someone out there knows more than I do. Maryann