Group I found the story of Penelope a couple of years ago, published in one of the local papers. Even though, I am not a descendant, I took it upon myself to research the name and ancestors of our friend who is a Stout descendant. I told him about one forum that I get thru rootsweb ([email protected]) that there is a heavy volume on the Stouts right now and if he wanted some information, now was the time. Next thing I know, we have his Family Bible. Even though the Stout name is English there is much to do with the history of New Netherlands and our Monmouth County where all the rich history, legends and early settlers started. I could hear this story hundreds of times and still learn something new. The DC site was trying to explore the ship's wreck with others so feel free to discuss on this site. The other online site for Cornell University, The Making of America is: http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/moa/ which includes more of Monmouth Co. names and History. Just remember that the DC site is for Dutch so I am taking it from others that were in the (English) Stout discussions, it was permitted to discuss English as long as Dutch was in the discussion. They also have Archives on the bottom. Genie Giberson