This question has been asked on the Tremaine message board but without satisfaction. Several sources attribute Abigail's parents as Benjamin Stout and Phoebe (Fammitje and Fermittje various type spellings) De Forest (De Froseest etc) of Dutch origin. That Benjamin of NYC goes back via Jonathan Jr and Jonathan Sr. to the Richard Stout Jr.of Monmouth and his father Richard Sr., well known Patentee. Another source attributes Abigail father as another Richard Stout - location unknown. I understnad New York State has been slower than many in getting Vital Records into computerized form. I am frustrated in attempting to prove that Abigail hearkens from the Monmouth Stouts. My family descends from the Hartshornes who went on to marry Abigail and John's descendants for the next 3 generations in Nova Scotia. Given that Hartshornes were already connected via marriage with Lawrences, Stouts, Bownes and Usticks my solid connection with Monmouth is already assured - however Famitje's lin! eage as well as Amerintje Christianse married to John Stout Sr. (drowned tragically young at sea on the way from Jamaica to NYC) have varied roots from Holland as putatively, so did the well known matriarch Penelop Prinz (wife to Patentee Richard). In Fammitje's case, lineage traces back to Huguenot France and the Netherlands in 1470 - an attractive possibility. Few records exist on the searches for Abigail Stout and what appears is contradictory with essentially 2 choices settling on a 1739 Abigail seemingly born in New England at Vermont or Massachusetts � this one apparently went on to marry a John Agnew in 1758 (also NYC)and Caleb Hyatt in 1762 but was Jonathan Tremaine a 3rd husband as some quote? The other Abigail was born in 1754 and appears to be the right date given the length of future childbearing years. Bill Stout (from Stouts of America page) kindly informed me that he received his information via Joseph Stillwell's extensive work - Vol IV on the Stouts etc, that the daughter of Benjamin was born in an unknown year after his marriage in 1738 and only had the first 2 husbands? If anyone has access to the Stout family tree at the Museum in Hopewell, I wonder if there is any more light shed there? Thx for any directions on this quandary. Robin Lawson