Have a great time Pat!! Terri

My take is that he was a product of his time. Historical and genealogical reporting has changed greatly over the years. Don't judge Hornor's style by what you now know. Joan in Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Tibbals" <ktibbals@optonline.net> To: <NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 1:09 PM Subject: RE: [NJMON] Old Times in Old Monmouth by Hornor > Randall, > > I'd love to hear more details of how and why Horner is a biased jerk. Does > anyone else have an opinion about him? Anyone else think he's biased? Give > me examples. > > Karen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Monmouthhistory@aol.com [mailto:Monmouthhistory@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 10:29 AM > To: ktibbals@optonline.net; NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NJMON] Old Times in Old Monmouth by Hornor > > > I am no expert, but my recollection of Horner is that he is a biased jerk. > I should take another look at him. It has been so many years. > Most major libraries in Monmouth County have the standard references. > Visitors and researchers may wish to visit the Middletown Public Library at > 55 New Monmouth Road. The $8.5 million expansion and total renovation > includes a New Jersey History Room. On-line services include ProQuest and > History Quest, both available for in-library use only, although many on-line > resources are available to cardholders at home. Visitors apply at the > reference desk for a temporary card number for that day to use the > computers. Visit the library at mtpl.org. Randall Gabrielan > > > ==== NJMONMOU Mailing List ==== > To contact the listowner: > pmount@nre.umass.edu > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

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Randall, I'd love to hear more details of how and why Horner is a biased jerk. Does anyone else have an opinion about him? Anyone else think he's biased? Give me examples. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Monmouthhistory@aol.com [mailto:Monmouthhistory@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 10:29 AM To: ktibbals@optonline.net; NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJMON] Old Times in Old Monmouth by Hornor I am no expert, but my recollection of Horner is that he is a biased jerk. I should take another look at him. It has been so many years. Most major libraries in Monmouth County have the standard references. Visitors and researchers may wish to visit the Middletown Public Library at 55 New Monmouth Road. The $8.5 million expansion and total renovation includes a New Jersey History Room. On-line services include ProQuest and History Quest, both available for in-library use only, although many on-line resources are available to cardholders at home. Visitors apply at the reference desk for a temporary card number for that day to use the computers. Visit the library at mtpl.org. Randall Gabrielan

go to the Allentown public library and they have an excellent resource library. it is located on 8 south main st. allentown nj 08501. If you should need to call, it is a 609 exchange for whatever reason even tho its a monmouth county library. While there, plan to have a wonderful lunch at Woodys across the street-the BLT on woody roll is divine. Linda

Monmouthhistory@aol.com wrote: >I am no expert, but my recollection of Horner is that he is a biased jerk. > That's a good one Randall. I've never heard Horner described in quite that way before. My recollection, having not read the book in a couple of years, is that he needs to be taken with a slight grain of salt. I have a little more faith in Saltar's work. Scott -- Scott D. Peters Historically Speaking 17 Alexandria Dr. Manalapan, NJ 07726 -------------------- Keep a sense of humor! If you let it be, ADD can be really funny at times. Don’t miss out on the chance to laugh when the laugh is there. At that psychological branch point we all know so well, when the split-second options are to get mad, cry, or laugh, go for the laughter. Humor is a key to a happy life with ADD. >From “Driven To Distraction,” By Edward Hallowell, M.D. and John Ratey, M.D. -- Scott D. Peters Historically Speaking ALHFAM -FPIPN vice-chair for trivia, errata and miscellany 17 Alexandria Dr. Manalapan, NJ 07726 scott@latke.net "The ordinary distinctions in society are often vague, and imply no just pre-eminence: rank and titles are adventitious things and instead of designating merit or virtue, are frequently the baubles of imbecility, or the sparkling decorations of meretricious pageantry" William Griffith, on behalf, and by order of the New-Jersey Society for promoting the gradual Abolition of Slavery, Twelfth Month (December) 20th, 1803

I am no expert, but my recollection of Horner is that he is a biased jerk. I should take another look at him. It has been so many years. Most major libraries in Monmouth County have the standard references. Visitors and researchers may wish to visit the Middletown Public Library at 55 New Monmouth Road. The $8.5 million expansion and total renovation includes a New Jersey History Room. On-line services include ProQuest and History Quest, both available for in-library use only, although many on-line resources are available to cardholders at home. Visitors apply at the reference desk for a temporary card number for that day to use the computers. Visit the library at mtpl.org. Randall Gabrielan

If you have a suggestion, please also answer the following questions (if you can): What do you like about it? Is there anything you dislike, and if so, what is it? Has you any concerns about it accuracy or any proof of its accuracy Any tricks to using it/ Do you know where are copies located? Anything else that would be useful to know about the book for someone who doesn't know it. -----Original Message----- From: Karen Tibbals [mailto:ktibbals@optonline.net] Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 6:08 PM To: NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [NJMON] Old Times in Old Monmouth by Hornor I am so glad this topic came up. It reminded me of a task on my to list. I am going to be writing a series of articles for the Monmouth COunty Geneological Society newsletter reviewing the major sources for Monmouth County geneolgoists. The series will touch on what the books are, what they include, and what their strengths and weaknesses are. (I am not an expert myself, instead, I am acting as a journalist, collecting opinions and interviewing people who are experts about what they know). If any one has any suggestions, or opinions, that they would liek to be included in this series, please email me at ktibbals@optonline.net Thanks Karen Tibbals -----Original Message----- From: joan brown [mailto:joan.c.brown@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 11:14 PM To: NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJMON] Old Times in Old Monmouth by Hornor Hi Laura, What was your lookup need? I have a 1974 reprint copy of "This Old Monmouth Of Ours" by Wm. S. Horner is that might help you. It's index isn't the best, but better than none. Joan in Virginia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Thomas" <LThomas333@cox.net> To: <NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: [NJMON] Old Times in Old Monmouth by Hornor > Hello. Does anyone have a copy of Hornor? I could use a lookup there, if > you would contact me by email. > > Thanks. > > > > Laura Thomas > > Enfield, CT > > > > > > ==== NJMONMOU Mailing List ==== > To contact the listowner: > pmount@nre.umass.edu > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I am seeking information regarding the parents of Wilson Parker, born 24 Feb 1776 in Monmouth Co.,NJ and died 12 Mar 1839 in Lapeer, Cortland Co., NY and his wife Rhoda Thorpe, daughter of Isaac Thorpe, born 28 Feb 1784 in New Jersey and died 21 Jan 1864 in Lapeer, Cortland Co., NY. They moved from New Jersey to Cayuga Co., NY in 1810, with 4 children. They moved to Cortland Co., NY in 1819. I was told that Rhoda and Wilson were married 15 Nov 1799 in Nelson, Comberland Co., NJ.

I am so glad this topic came up. It reminded me of a task on my to list. I am going to be writing a series of articles for the Monmouth COunty Geneological Society newsletter reviewing the major sources for Monmouth County geneolgoists. The series will touch on what the books are, what they include, and what their strengths and weaknesses are. (I am not an expert myself, instead, I am acting as a journalist, collecting opinions and interviewing people who are experts about what they know). If any one has any suggestions, or opinions, that they would liek to be included in this series, please email me at ktibbals@optonline.net Thanks Karen Tibbals -----Original Message----- From: joan brown [mailto:joan.c.brown@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 11:14 PM To: NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJMON] Old Times in Old Monmouth by Hornor Hi Laura, What was your lookup need? I have a 1974 reprint copy of "This Old Monmouth Of Ours" by Wm. S. Horner is that might help you. It's index isn't the best, but better than none. Joan in Virginia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Thomas" <LThomas333@cox.net> To: <NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: [NJMON] Old Times in Old Monmouth by Hornor > Hello. Does anyone have a copy of Hornor? I could use a lookup there, if > you would contact me by email. > > Thanks. > > > > Laura Thomas > > Enfield, CT > > > > > > ==== NJMONMOU Mailing List ==== > To contact the listowner: > pmount@nre.umass.edu > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Those with extensive interests in NJ biography are advised to secure a copy of Donald Sinclair's "A New Jersey Biographical Index", which indexes the contents of many collective biographical sources by subject name. It was published by Genealogical Publishing in 1993. The History Quest search engine is particularly helpful as it will secure references to individuals mentioned in the biographical entries of others. It also accesses books about other states that reference New Jerseyeans. Randall Gabrielan

FYI-- if you have access to Heritage Quest [online], either through subscription or through your local public library [like mine - yea!!], then you can download many books like this in pdf format. there is a 50 page download limit, but if you're patient and stick to it, it isn't that big of a deal. [meaning you have to do a few downloads to acquire a 250pg book.] I've found a few 'out of print' books and even one I'd rented from FHC & tried to transcribe... already there as a pdf. the price of FREE always works for me! haven't been there in a while, so not sure which NJ books they have, but I've snagged most of what I didn't already own.

Hi Laura, What was your lookup need? I have a 1974 reprint copy of "This Old Monmouth Of Ours" by Wm. S. Horner is that might help you. It's index isn't the best, but better than none. Joan in Virginia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Thomas" <LThomas333@cox.net> To: <NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: [NJMON] Old Times in Old Monmouth by Hornor > Hello. Does anyone have a copy of Hornor? I could use a lookup there, if > you would contact me by email. > > Thanks. > > > > Laura Thomas > > Enfield, CT > > > > > > ==== NJMONMOU Mailing List ==== > To contact the listowner: > pmount@nre.umass.edu > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

The site you provided below is certainly a thorough collection of books for genealogists in NJ. Thanks for sharing it. Ken > Higginson has this book for sale along with many other books on N.J. > http://www.higginsonbooks.com/newjerseySC.html > > Gary Phillips > www.whitesville.net > White, Reynolds, Grover, Estelle, Skidmore > >> Pat: Does the old but reprinted "Old Monmouth" paperback appear in any >> particular libraries in the county? >> >> Perhaps someone might locate a source for purchasing any remainder books >> available? >> >> Ken >> >> >> Subject: [NJMON] Old Monmouth >> >> >>> Genealogical.com >>> >>> This Old Monmouth of Ours >>> William S. Hornor >>> >>> >>> Format: Paperback >>> Pages: 444 pp. >>> Published: 1932 >>> Reprinted: 1999 >>> Status: Out of Print >>> ISBN#: 0806348607 >>> Item#: CF9145 >>> >>> >>> Originally published as a series of newspaper articles, this book is a >>> mine >>> of information on the history and genealogy of Monmouth County. >>> Genealogists >>> will take special delight in Hornor's treatment of nearly 100 early >>> Monmouth >>> County families from Ackerson to Yard. >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== NJMONMOU Mailing List ==== >>> Monmouth County NJGenWeb page: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~njmonmou >>> >>> ============================== >>> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >>> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== NJMONMOU Mailing List ==== >> Monmouth County Archives >> http://www.visitmonmouth.com/archives/index.asp >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > >

Hi. This book is available for download on the Godfrey Memorioal Library site along with several other good books for Monmouth Researchers. They have an annual fee of $35.00. _www.godfrey.org_ (http://www.godfrey.org) Fayth

Higginson has this book for sale along with many other books on N.J. http://www.higginsonbooks.com/newjerseySC.html Gary Phillips www.whitesville.net White, Reynolds, Grover, Estelle, Skidmore ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Everard" <everardk@comcast.net> To: <NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [NJMON] "Old Monmouth" > Pat: Does the old but reprinted "Old Monmouth" paperback appear in any > particular libraries in the county? > > Perhaps someone might locate a source for purchasing any remainder books > available? > > Ken > > > Subject: [NJMON] Old Monmouth > > >> Genealogical.com >> >> This Old Monmouth of Ours >> William S. Hornor >> >> >> Format: Paperback >> Pages: 444 pp. >> Published: 1932 >> Reprinted: 1999 >> Status: Out of Print >> ISBN#: 0806348607 >> Item#: CF9145 >> >> >> Originally published as a series of newspaper articles, this book is a >> mine >> of information on the history and genealogy of Monmouth County. >> Genealogists >> will take special delight in Hornor's treatment of nearly 100 early >> Monmouth >> County families from Ackerson to Yard. >> >> >> >> ==== NJMONMOU Mailing List ==== >> Monmouth County NJGenWeb page: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~njmonmou >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== NJMONMOU Mailing List ==== > Monmouth County Archives > http://www.visitmonmouth.com/archives/index.asp > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Pat: Does the old but reprinted "Old Monmouth" paperback appear in any particular libraries in the county? Perhaps someone might locate a source for purchasing any remainder books available? Ken Subject: [NJMON] Old Monmouth > Genealogical.com > > This Old Monmouth of Ours > William S. Hornor > > > Format: Paperback > Pages: 444 pp. > Published: 1932 > Reprinted: 1999 > Status: Out of Print > ISBN#: 0806348607 > Item#: CF9145 > > > Originally published as a series of newspaper articles, this book is a > mine > of information on the history and genealogy of Monmouth County. > Genealogists > will take special delight in Hornor's treatment of nearly 100 early > Monmouth > County families from Ackerson to Yard. > > > > ==== NJMONMOU Mailing List ==== > Monmouth County NJGenWeb page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njmonmou > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Greetings All: I would be interested in someone's description of the book especially as it might relate to the year it was published. If that is not available, what time period might the book cover and what county or counties it might include. Ken > Hello. Does anyone have a copy of Hornor? I could use a lookup there, if > you would contact me by email. > > Thanks. > > > > Laura Thomas > > Enfield, CT > > > > > > ==== NJMONMOU Mailing List ==== > To contact the listowner: > pmount@nre.umass.edu > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Genealogical.com This Old Monmouth of Ours William S. Hornor Format: Paperback Pages: 444 pp. Published: 1932 Reprinted: 1999 Status: Out of Print ISBN#: 0806348607 Item#: CF9145 Originally published as a series of newspaper articles, this book is a mine of information on the history and genealogy of Monmouth County. Genealogists will take special delight in Hornor's treatment of nearly 100 early Monmouth County families from Ackerson to Yard.

Hello. Does anyone have a copy of Hornor? I could use a lookup there, if you would contact me by email. Thanks. Laura Thomas Enfield, CT