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    1. [NJMONMOU] rev war info research?
    2. kirby heard
    3. I have a reference from a kind lister-lookup which reads: "Roster of the People of Revolutionary Monmouth County, NJ" by Michael S. Adelberg This is basically a list of known residents of Monmouth during the Rev. War. It is not complete, but it is extensive. In some cases there is nothing but their location, in others certain events are listed. Emson Kerby Upper Freehold Thomas Kerby " " Thomas Kerby Dover John Kirby convicted of Misdemeanor, 6/3/78, went to Phila. without a pass Thoma Kirby Juror, Court of Oyer and Terminer, 8/79; fined 30 pounds for missing all or some jury duty William Kirby Upper Freehold; Sergeant in Militia; Signer of Petition in Favor of Daniel Longstreet, 11/21/80 my question is this: with this information, is there somewhere further I can dig to try and determine *which* William or John or Thomas K*RBY are being referenced? and will/should there be some sort of Rev War papers on William if he was 'Sgt in Militia'? thanks for any leads... ^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^ kirbz@netmcr.com Kirby Heard in NC/US searching LUNAN and ANDERSON in SCT; JONES, MELL and HEARD in GA; KIRBY, GASTON and BRITTON in NJ* *and BENNETT, CHAMBERLAIN, IVINS, MOUNT

    05/28/2000 02:13:22
    1. Re: [NJMONMOU] order of the Redmen
    2. The Improved Order of Red Men was founded during the Revolution. It was a far right organization that lost favor during WWII. It still exists & has headquarters at Waco. In many areas it was more of a social club like Masons or Elks etc. Corinne Lill

    05/28/2000 01:45:27
    1. Dorset Walling Burial Ground
    2. Has anyone heard of the Dorset Walling Burial Ground - supposed to be in Middletown, Monmouth Co., N.J.? So far I am unable to find it in any on line locality searches. Would very much appreciate the address and phone # if there is one available. Thanks so much, Mary in Delaware

    05/28/2000 09:23:10
    1. Re: [NJMONMOU] order of the Redmen
    2. marta burns
    3. someone suggested this one to me...... http://www.flatkat.com/Redmenmain.html On Sat, 27 May 2000 20:16:33 EDT VwArose@aol.com writes: >Has anyone ever heard of The Order of the Redmen, or some similar >group >during the second half of the 1800 or early 1900. They had a cemetery >in >East Brunswick (Middlesex County) named Osage Cemetery. > >We've seen this group mentioned in several obituaries for Matawan and >Keyport >family members @1910. > >If you know anything of this group I would love the information. >Thankyou, >VWArose > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

    05/28/2000 07:37:50
    1. Re: [NJMONMOU] order of the Redmen
    2. Joe Could you send the information through the E-Mail?:) Thanks Barb

    05/28/2000 06:52:39
    1. Re: [NJMONMOU] Improved Order of Red Men
    2. JEFFREY OWENS
    3. [note correct spelling - two words] I searched quite a bit for something fully explanatory, but couldn't come up with much. Although this organization is currently in existence they don't seem to have a web site. I don't think they enjoy the widespread popularity of the past. In 1896 they had nearly 170,000 members. Supposedly started by George Washington (ca 1773) to aid Indians displaced by settlers. Joined by F.D. Roosevelt in 1930. No one site seems to have a full history or explanation. Everton's "Genealogical Helper" May/Jun 95 refers you Gale Research's, "Encyclopedia of Associations"; "commonly available at public libraries". and also ..."the Improved Order of Red Men held the American Indians in high regard......The men who organized the Order were impressed by the ethical nature of the American Indian, and hoped to emulate their lifestyle through a pattern of fraternity and charity." <http://www.redmenbingo.com/> Click on "about us" Jeff Owens VwArose@aol.com wrote: > > Has anyone ever heard of The Order of the Redmen, or some similar group > during the second half of the 1800 or early 1900. They had a cemetery in > East Brunswick (Middlesex County) named Osage Cemetery. > > We've seen this group mentioned in several obituaries for Matawan and Keyport > family members @1910. > > If you know anything of this group I would love the information. Thankyou, > VWArose

    05/27/2000 07:43:21
    1. Re: [NJMONMOU] order of the Redmen
    2. Hi, I don't know much about this group except that my grandfather was a member in Keyport in the 1920s. I have his dues card which reads that his "hunting grounds" were Keyport, in the "reservation" of New Jersey, the "tribe" was Chingarora and the tribe number was 116. The back of the card has unusual questions and answers which look like they are written in "pseudo-Indian". For example, under the "Questions" section: • Nittah...Is here in distress • Otaupin...Will Tribe be responsible? • Penanuh...Represents himself as a member of your Tribe under the "Answers" section: • Wabum...Tribe is not responsible • Anoka...You are authorized by Tribe to embalm body • Yuma...Benefits commence for first seven suns There are more...in case anyone is interested I'd be glad to send you a scan of the front and back of the card in .jpeg format through an email. Joe Collins keyportkid@aol.com

    05/27/2000 07:21:54
    1. Re: [NJMONMOU] order of the Redmen
    2. Doris
    3. Hi, I also would like info on this group. I have pictures of my grandma & grandpa dressed as Indians and was told that they belonged to a group by the name of Redman. That is all the info I have. Doris ----- Original Message ----- From: <VwArose@aol.com> To: <NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 8:16 PM Subject: [NJMONMOU] order of the Redmen > Has anyone ever heard of The Order of the Redmen, or some similar group > during the second half of the 1800 or early 1900. They had a cemetery in > East Brunswick (Middlesex County) named Osage Cemetery. > > We've seen this group mentioned in several obituaries for Matawan and Keyport > family members @1910. > > If you know anything of this group I would love the information. Thankyou, > VWArose >

    05/27/2000 06:24:52
    1. [NJMONMOU] order of the Redmen
    2. Has anyone ever heard of The Order of the Redmen, or some similar group during the second half of the 1800 or early 1900. They had a cemetery in East Brunswick (Middlesex County) named Osage Cemetery. We've seen this group mentioned in several obituaries for Matawan and Keyport family members @1910. If you know anything of this group I would love the information. Thankyou, VWArose

    05/27/2000 02:16:33
    1. [NJMONMOU] Re: NJMONMOU-D Digest V00 #161
    2. Appeared in the Asbury Park Press: http://www.injersey.com/news/backstories.pl?paper=20&id=274826 Try 7 day......Shepard death.

    05/26/2000 10:17:13
    1. [NJMONMOU] Re: NJMONMOU-D Digest V00 #161
    2. In a message dated 5/26/2000 12:01:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, NJMONMOU-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > 1 Manasquan must have been in Howell Twp in 1850. In 1851 I think Wall Twp divided off from Howell Twp. Hope this helps. Jackie, once a Jersybel

    05/26/2000 07:59:03
    1. [NJMONMOU] Re: Manasquan in 1850
    2. Hi Gary, The Manasquan area was part of Howell Twp in 1850. Wall Twp, which at that time included present day Manasquan, Brielle, Sea Girt, Spring Lake and Belmar, was partitioned off of Howell in 1851. Prior to 1801, the area was part of Shrewsbury Twp. Steve Thorne

    05/26/2000 06:25:07
    1. Re: [NJMONMOU] Monmouth Courthouse 1700-1800's
    2. Yvonne Bennett
    3. SHEPHERD, Moses Stillwell Cemrtery Middletown NJ 32 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.4, p. —Serial: 9661; Documents Relating to the Colonial History of the State of New Jersey Divorces By the Court of Chancery. page 346 Shepherd, John, Monmouth, and Martha Taylor, Monmouth 1742 Dec. 13 Divorces By the Court of Chancery. page 346 Shepherd, John, Monmouth, and Martha Taylor, Monmouth 1742 Dec. 13 Divorces By the Court of Chancery. page 346 Shepherd, John, Cumberland, and Temperance Brooks, Cumberland 1766 May 1 Divorces By the Court of Chancery. page 346 Shepherd, Jonadab, Cumberland, and Martha Hand, Cumberland 1770 April 16 Divorces By the Court of Chancery. page 346 Shepherd, Moses, Middletown, and Rebecca Stillwell, Middletown 1767 Mar. 23 page 346 Shepherd, Thomas, Monmouth, and Sarah Dennis, Monmouth 1747 Sept. 8 This is from ancestry.com hope it's of some help > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

    05/25/2000 10:05:25
    1. Re: [NJMONMOU] Manasquan (what twp?)
    2. Joe
    3. Carol Daugherty wrote: > > -Hi Gary From the Lightfoot map of 1851 it looks like Manasquan is in > Wall Township. In the 1850 census there was no Wall Township.... so it must have been charted a bit after the census was taken. -- joe

    05/25/2000 09:15:55
    1. Re: [NJMONMOU] Manasquan (what twp?)
    2. Carol Daugherty
    3. -Hi Gary From the Lightfoot map of 1851 it looks like Manasquan is in Wall Township. ---- Original Message ----- From: Gary Phillips <barnabas@bellatlantic.net> To: <NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 4:27 PM Subject: [NJMONMOU] Manasquan > Does anyone know what township Manasquan was a part of in 1850? > > Gary > > >

    05/25/2000 08:24:12
    1. Re: [NJMONMOU] Manasquan
    2. Norman Wright
    3. I am just guessing, but it think it was part of Shrewbury Township. It seems strange. Also, when they divided Monmouth into Ocean, I just recently discovered that part of what had been Manasquan or Squan Village became Pt. Pleasant Beach. Apparently it ran down to the Route 88 bridge between what is now Pt. Pleasant and Brick Township. This really makes it a joy doing research.

    05/25/2000 06:47:46
    1. Re: [NJMONMOU] Monmouth Courthouse 1700-1800's
    2. there are shepherds in matawan- now jack(john) shepherd bought my husb. grandparents house on harding blvd, matawan boro, monmouth county nj- funny thing is his father=jack sr. was my parents best man at there wedding in 1945. his mother had been married to mr shepherd and then married mr. bliss. jack sr also has a daughter named judy- jack srs wifes name is gert= last i heard they lived in matawan=let me know if i need to dig more for you. jack sr was around my parents ages-( they would be 73 and 76 had they lived) linda originally of matawan

    05/25/2000 04:02:27
    1. [NJMONMOU] Manasquan
    2. Gary Phillips
    3. Does anyone know what township Manasquan was a part of in 1850? Gary

    05/25/2000 02:27:10
    1. [NJMONMOU] Monmouth Courthouse 1700-1800's
    2. Doug Shepherd
    3. I have tried before, but now my daughter (age 14) is in the hospital with her 6th stroke in 2 years and I really want to know this information so I can share it with her and her brothers. I am looking to find which Shepherd family (any names) lived from 6 to 10 miles from the Monmouth county courthouse in Monmouth County. One of them was Joseph as his pension application for the Rev. War provides this information. I am in Las Vegas and am unable to travel to NJ to search myself. Any help or cooperation would be most helpful. Thank you. Doug Shepherd dougshepherd@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

    05/25/2000 12:15:34
    1. Re: [NJMONMOU] BOOK OF THE DEAD OF MON. CO.
    2. would you please look up dempster and wilhoite'. wilhoite would be a two or three year old child, thank you

    05/24/2000 08:31:33