-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [gsnj] Upcoming Lectures at NJSA Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:44:05 -0400 From: "Joseph R Klett" <joseph.klett@sos.state.nj.us> Reply-To: gsnj@yahoogroups.com To: New Jersey History ListServe <NJ_HISTORY@EMAIL.RUTGERS.EDU>, GSNJ Listserve <gsnj@yahoogroups.com> Greetings... For those of you interested in "Exploring Your Jersey Roots," space is still available in the remaining five sessions of the State Archives' and Genealogical Society of New Jersey's Wednesday evening lecture series through November 10th. Upcoming presentations include: * 10/13, C. Arthur Lawton III and Joseph R. Klett: Publishing Your Research Findings * 10/20, Bette M. Epstein: Case Studies in New Jersey Genealogy III - Tracing Your Pre-Civil War Family * 10/27, John W. Konvalinka: Online Sources for New Jersey Genealogy * 11/3, Joseph R. Klett: Using the Records of the East and West Jersey Proprietors * 11/10, Archives Staff and GSNJ Board of Trustees: Ask the Experts - Bring Us Your New Jersey Genealogical Challenges Registration is $8 per session, and can be paid at the door or in advance by check or credit card. Lectures begin at 6:30 p.m. in the State Archives Manuscript Reading Room, except for the two "Ask the Experts" Sessions on 11/10, which begin at 5:00 and 6:45. On lecture days, the Archives' Microfilm Reading Room has extended public hours to 6:00 p.m. except for 11/10, when it will close at the regular time of 4:30. Parking is available on State Street or (after 3:00 p.m.) in the lot behind the State Archives' building. Register now as space is limited. For more information, visit the following URL: http://www.njarchives.org/links/jersey-roots2.html or contact Veronica Calder at the New Jersey State Archives, veronica.calder@sos.state.nj.us, tel. 609-984-3297. Hope to see you here! Joseph R. Klett Chief of Archives

Does anyone have access to the list mentioned for 1811? Middletown or Keyport ANDERSON would be of interest to me. Robert J. Taylor, M.D. Family Researcher - Taylor, Robinson, Anderson, Ballentyne, Bradley, Dumond, Devereaux, Hitchman, Houghton, Munson, Noble, Robbins, Sackrider, Seymour, Sloat, Smallin, VanWormer and others Author of The Civil War Letters of Wm. A. Robinson and the Story of the 89th NYVI Stephanie, I've never seen a good explanation of what happened to the census population schedules of 1790-1820, but there are tax lists (also called tax ratables) that can be helpful. For this period, most of them are owned by the New Jersey State Archives, but others exist in other repositories (for example, 1811 and 1827 for Middletown are at the Special Collections at the Alexander Library at Rutgers). The New Jersey State Archives has prepared a wonderfully comprehensive online catalogue of their collection; these tax lists have been microfilmed and the film is available for Interlibrary Loan; it can also be used at the local FHC. At one time the microfilm was available for purchase, and may be again after they refilm the tax lists. Some of the tax lists have also been abstracted and published in _The Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey_. In which town, and for which time period, are you searching? The list of 1790 freeholders has also been published and is most helpful, but of course it does not list all taxpayers, only those who achieved a certain economic status, the definition of which I've never been able to find. The New Jersey State Archives tax lists were indexed and published years ago by Ronald Vern Jackson. You might be able to get his book through Interlibrary Loan. It should be used with caution, because there are many errors, but it can pin down a locality and time period so that the actual tax lists can then be searched. Judi _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

Stephanie, And also Kenn Stryker-Rodda's Revolutionary Census of NJ. I'm sure someone can look up a name for you. Pam in NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOAN BROWN" <joan.c.brown@worldnet.att.net> To: <NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [NJMON] Census question > I found "New Jersey in 1793" (militia lists, etc.) very informative. > Joan in VA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephanie" <stephie@seasurf.net> > To: <NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:33 PM > Subject: [NJMON] Census question > > > > Hello, I am new to this list and researching in NJ. Could someone tell me > why there are no early census records, are there any tax lists or substitute > census. Thank you for your help. Stephanie Miller in Oregon > > > > > > ==== NJMONMOU Mailing List ==== > > Monmouth County NJGenWeb page: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njmonmou > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== NJMONMOU Mailing List ==== > Monmouth County Genealogy Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njmcgs/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

_Click here: Earlham Libraries Friends Collection--American Friend Obituary Index_ (http://www.earlham.edu/~libr/quaker/obituaries/index.htm) or _http://www.earlham.edu/~libr/quaker/obituaries/index.htm_ (http://www.earlham.edu/~libr/quaker/obituaries/index.htm) this was snet to the essex list

I found "New Jersey in 1793" (militia lists, etc.) very informative. Joan in VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephanie" <stephie@seasurf.net> To: <NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:33 PM Subject: [NJMON] Census question > Hello, I am new to this list and researching in NJ. Could someone tell me why there are no early census records, are there any tax lists or substitute census. Thank you for your help. Stephanie Miller in Oregon > > > ==== NJMONMOU Mailing List ==== > Monmouth County NJGenWeb page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njmonmou > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Stephanie, I've never seen a good explanation of what happened to the census population schedules of 1790-1820, but there are tax lists (also called tax ratables) that can be helpful. For this period, most of them are owned by the New Jersey State Archives, but others exist in other repositories (for example, 1811 and 1827 for Middletown are at the Special Collections at the Alexander Library at Rutgers). The New Jersey State Archives has prepared a wonderfully comprehensive online catalogue of their collection; these tax lists have been microfilmed and the film is available for Interlibrary Loan; it can also be used at the local FHC. At one time the microfilm was available for purchase, and may be again after they refilm the tax lists. Some of the tax lists have also been abstracted and published in _The Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey_. In which town, and for which time period, are you searching? The list of 1790 freeholders has also been published and is most helpful, but of course it does not list all taxpayers, only those who achieved a certain economic status, the definition of which I've never been able to find. The New Jersey State Archives tax lists were indexed and published years ago by Ronald Vern Jackson. You might be able to get his book through Interlibrary Loan. It should be used with caution, because there are many errors, but it can pin down a locality and time period so that the actual tax lists can then be searched. Judi

Hello, I am new to this list and researching in NJ. Could someone tell me why there are no early census records, are there any tax lists or substitute census. Thank you for your help. Stephanie Miller in Oregon

Marianne: Thanks for the interesting information. Do you know whether a man who was drafted would have that noted in his military records? I guess it would be a possibility that anyone joining the Union after March 1863 was conscripted? Laura Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Marianne Ordway [mailto:mordway@adelphia.net] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 12:18 PM To: NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Lost Soldiers + Enrollment Act & Burlington, VT sidewalk Hi Everyone, Just a few things that I thought you might enjoy: First I wanted to mention that recently while working on a "what-ever-happened-to" ~ my G-Grandfather's little brother [who was fighting during the Civil War with the Confederate Army out of KY] whom we lost track of in 1862 after he was listed as sick in Nashville, TN and did not receive pay from October through December 1861 ~ we ran across a Union soldiers file that is very interesting and prompted a few new trains of thought. Linda suggested the other day that he may very well have recovered from that illness in Nashville and been a part of the first draft of the United States that was initiated by President Lincoln as a result of the war dragging on and on with fewer men willing to enlist. We did find a Union Soldier who matches his description and are waiting to receive those military records now. It will be a wonderful coo to find that this is the same man we have been looking for. I thought that perhaps this information might be a great help to some of you who have ancestors who seemingly disappeared during the Civil War? It makes perfect sense in many cases as these men had NO choice. Here is the scenario and back up info that Linda posed to me the other day and in our case regarding this Uncle it may well prove to be brilliant: Robert joins the Confederates in 1861, gets sick, leaves Nashville and comes home after he gets well enough to travel back, then joins up on the Union side in 1863 - because he has to as a result of the Enrollment Act. All the men 20-45 were required to join the Union Army (or pay $300 to send a substitute) - America's first draft - as a result of the Enrollment/Conscription Act that Lincoln signed in March 1863. That's why these guys joined up in 1863-64 and were in the Union Army. [Here is an example of what the men of Campbell Co., KY, received about the draft]: After the first year or two of the Civil War, the number of volunteers dwindled to near zero. The Union needed men to continue the war and so the Enrollment Act was passed and signed by President Lincoln March 3, 1863. Under the new draft bill, white males and aliens who had declared their intent to become citizens were eligible for the draft if between ages 20 and 45. An article in the Kentucky Times Star on April 30, 1917 recalled the local Civil War draft and reprinted the notice received in June 1864 by Conrad Hafner of Newport. It read: Provost Marshal's Office, Sixth District, State of Kentucky, June 23, 1864, Conrad Hafner, Campbell County, Kentucky. You are hereby notified that you were legally drafted into service of the United States for the period of three years in accordance with the provisions of the Act of Congress for enrolling and calling out the National Forces and for other purposes, approved March 3, 1863. You will accordingly report on or before the 29th of June 1864 at the place of rendezvous or be deemed a deserter and subject to the penalty prescribed therefore by the rules and articles of war. Transportation will be furnished you on presenting the notification at Covington, Kentucky or the station nearest your place of residence. Signed: Henry A Mitchell Major 17th Regiment VRC Acct Provost Marshall Sixth District of Kentucky ======================================================================== ==== It is estimated that of those who took part in the American Civil War, 75,215 were regulars, 1,933,779 were volunteers and 46,347 were drafted and 73,600 were substitutes. Officially, 201,397 men deserted, of these 76,526 were arrested and returned to their regiments. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++ Now here is another thing that I thought was interesting in Sunday's Washington Post and want to make sure that you've had a chance to read it too: UNDER A CITY SIDEWALK, REMINDER OF A WAR LONG AGO: While burying electrical cables under a busy sidewalk this month, construction workers in Burlington, VT., made an unusual discovery; 10 skeletons laid head to toe, between three and six feet deep. Archaeologists called to the scene believe the bones are from soldiers stationed in the area during the War of 1812. They found scraps of uniforms, a pewter button with the inscription "U.S." and remnants of hexagonal wooden coffins. Some 5,000 soldiers were stationed in the Burlington area during the war and after. Archaeologists believe there may be hundreds more remains under the city. The excavation site in the north end of Vermont's largest city, which as almost 39,000 residents, was once a hospital and cemetery for soldiers. "It's a forgotten part or Burlington's history, because the city just grew up over it," said John G. Krock, the director of the University of Vermont's Consulting Archeology Program, which has been hired by the state to analyze the discovery and it working on a map of the former military installation. "We're hoping to figure out where other hot spots for more graves might be," he added. Reported by: Jonathan Finer ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++ "You have to do your own growing no matter how tall your grandfather was." --Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) Best Regards, Marianne Ordway www.b4us.net <http://www.b4us.net/> mordway@adelphia.net

Hi Everyone, Just a few things that I thought you might enjoy: First I wanted to mention that recently while working on a "what-ever-happened-to" ~ my G-Grandfather's little brother [who was fighting during the Civil War with the Confederate Army out of KY] whom we lost track of in 1862 after he was listed as sick in Nashville, TN and did not receive pay from October through December 1861 ~ we ran across a Union soldiers file that is very interesting and prompted a few new trains of thought. Linda suggested the other day that he may very well have recovered from that illness in Nashville and been a part of the first draft of the United States that was initiated by President Lincoln as a result of the war dragging on and on with fewer men willing to enlist. We did find a Union Soldier who matches his description and are waiting to receive those military records now. It will be a wonderful coo to find that this is the same man we have been looking for. I thought that perhaps this information might be a great help to some of you who have ancestors who seemingly disappeared during the Civil War? It makes perfect sense in many cases as these men had NO choice. Here is the scenario and back up info that Linda posed to me the other day and in our case regarding this Uncle it may well prove to be brilliant: Robert joins the Confederates in 1861, gets sick, leaves Nashville and comes home after he gets well enough to travel back, then joins up on the Union side in 1863 - because he has to as a result of the Enrollment Act. All the men 20-45 were required to join the Union Army (or pay $300 to send a substitute) - America's first draft - as a result of the Enrollment/Conscription Act that Lincoln signed in March 1863. That's why these guys joined up in 1863-64 and were in the Union Army. [Here is an example of what the men of Campbell Co., KY, received about the draft]: After the first year or two of the Civil War, the number of volunteers dwindled to near zero. The Union needed men to continue the war and so the Enrollment Act was passed and signed by President Lincoln March 3, 1863. Under the new draft bill, white males and aliens who had declared their intent to become citizens were eligible for the draft if between ages 20 and 45. An article in the Kentucky Times Star on April 30, 1917 recalled the local Civil War draft and reprinted the notice received in June 1864 by Conrad Hafner of Newport. It read: Provost Marshal's Office, Sixth District, State of Kentucky, June 23, 1864, Conrad Hafner, Campbell County, Kentucky. You are hereby notified that you were legally drafted into service of the United States for the period of three years in accordance with the provisions of the Act of Congress for enrolling and calling out the National Forces and for other purposes, approved March 3, 1863. You will accordingly report on or before the 29th of June 1864 at the place of rendezvous or be deemed a deserter and subject to the penalty prescribed therefore by the rules and articles of war. Transportation will be furnished you on presenting the notification at Covington, Kentucky or the station nearest your place of residence. Signed: Henry A Mitchell Major 17th Regiment VRC Acct Provost Marshall Sixth District of Kentucky ======================================================================== ==== It is estimated that of those who took part in the American Civil War, 75,215 were regulars, 1,933,779 were volunteers and 46,347 were drafted and 73,600 were substitutes. Officially, 201,397 men deserted, of these 76,526 were arrested and returned to their regiments. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++ Now here is another thing that I thought was interesting in Sunday's Washington Post and want to make sure that you've had a chance to read it too: UNDER A CITY SIDEWALK, REMINDER OF A WAR LONG AGO: While burying electrical cables under a busy sidewalk this month, construction workers in Burlington, VT., made an unusual discovery; 10 skeletons laid head to toe, between three and six feet deep. Archaeologists called to the scene believe the bones are from soldiers stationed in the area during the War of 1812. They found scraps of uniforms, a pewter button with the inscription "U.S." and remnants of hexagonal wooden coffins. Some 5,000 soldiers were stationed in the Burlington area during the war and after. Archaeologists believe there may be hundreds more remains under the city. The excavation site in the north end of Vermont's largest city, which as almost 39,000 residents, was once a hospital and cemetery for soldiers. "It's a forgotten part or Burlington's history, because the city just grew up over it," said John G. Krock, the director of the University of Vermont's Consulting Archeology Program, which has been hired by the state to analyze the discovery and it working on a map of the former military installation. "We're hoping to figure out where other hot spots for more graves might be," he added. Reported by: Jonathan Finer ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++ "You have to do your own growing no matter how tall your grandfather was." --Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) Best Regards, Marianne Ordway www.b4us.net <http://www.b4us.net/> mordway@adelphia.net

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Please publish in your club news Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:45:17 -0400 From: Nancy Wilkinson <anne157@verizon.net> To: Asbury Park Press <community@app.com>, Atlantic City Press <community@pressofac.com>, "famhist@comcast.net" <famhist@comcast.net>, Sandpaper & Leader <calendar@thesandpaper.net>, Senior Scoop <sweiner@app.com>, Times Beacon <lredd@app.com> The Genealogy Club of Little Egg Harbor will have their regular monthly meeting on Tuesday, Oct. 26th. 7 pm at the Senior Center, 641 Radio Rd., LEH. This month our guest speaker will be Debbie Lawton of the Ocean County Genealogical Society, Toms River. Our meetings are open to all who wish to attend, not just residents of Little Egg Harbor. Refreshments will be served. For information please call Anne at 609/296-3505 or Nancy at 609/296-5805 -- Michelle Tucker Chubenko

i have several people requesting photo who probably think i still live in nj. however, long trek from fla. id appreciate it if you could take it and let me know- i will send you email addresses of the ones who want to have it or you can send it to me at _lindabch@aol.com_ (mailto:lindabch@aol.com) with thanks. linda for the ones requesting it

Hi All - For anyone who may have their folks traced back to England and for those of us who are trying to -- a website of interest. (Sent to the PACHESTER list by CGarr34). www.law.harvard.edu/library/collections/special/collections/manuscripts/deeds/ _Harvard Law School has a collection of English deeds in their library and these deeds are described on their website, including names and locations._ Looks like fun!! Terri

Saw this on eBay if anyone's interested: CERTIFICATE OF MARRIAGE - NEW JERSEY - 1876 MAY 6, 1876 BETWEEN J. FRANK PULLEN OF HIGHTSTOWN & FANNIE C. NICKLE , ENGLISHTOWN, NEW JERSEY....AT BAPTIST PARSONAGE http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41188&item=2273423120&rd=1 I believe the bride is Fannie C. MICKLE of the following family: 1870 Monmouth Manalapan 62 59 John J. Mickle 46 M W Farmer 12,000 3000 NY 1870 Monmouth Manalapan 62 59 Eliza Mickle 48 F W NY 1870 Monmouth Manalapan 62 59 Worthington Mickle 21 M W Farmer 500 NY 1870 Monmouth Manalapan 62 59 Mary E. Mickle 15 F W NJ 1870 Monmouth Manalapan 62 59 Fannie Mickle 11 F W NJ 1870 Monmouth Manalapan 62 59 John S. Mickle 9 M W NJ 1870 Monmouth Manalapan 62 59 John Prince 46 M W Invalid MA 1870 Monmouth Manalapan 62 59 Leander Jewell 20 M W Wheelwright 1000 NJ 1870 Monmouth Manalapan 62 59 Eldridge Palmer 18 M B Laborer MA 1870 Monmouth Manalapan 62 59 Hannah Jones 17 F B Domestic NJ Cheers Scott D. Peters "Will do history for food..." Historically Speaking ALHFAM -FPIPN vice-chair for trivia, errata and miscellany sdpeters@optonline.net "The ordinary distinctions in society are often vague, and imply no just pre-eminence: rank and titles are adventitious things and instead of designating merit or virtue, are frequently the baubles of imbecility, or the sparkling decorations of meretricious pageantry" William Griffith, on behalf, and by order of the New-Jersey Society for promoting the gradual Abolition of Slavery, Twelfth Month (December) 20th, 1803

This discussion reminds me of my father, a WWII Ordnance Captain. It's ORDNANCE, not ORDANANCE, & he definitely let us know. How about we lay this one "to rest". Joan in VA

And today, I learned something new. Terri

The website is at www.interment.net. I guess they thought some would misspell, so www.internment.net works too. Laura -----Original Message----- From: Carole O. Cole [mailto:cnjcarole@msn.com] Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 11:30 AM To: NJMONMOU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Internment is not interment It's a common mistake, but if www.internment.net is about burials, they have used the wrong word. intern is a verb, and means "to restrict to or confine within prescribed limits, as prisoners of war, enemy aliens, or combat troops who take refuge in a neutral country." internment is a noun and is "the act or an instance of interning, or the state of being interned; confinement." inter is a verb, and means "to deposit a dead body in a grave or tomb; bury." interment is a noun that means "the act or a ceremony of interring; burial." (Webster's Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary) The two words are not interchangeable and do not mean the same thing. Even funeral parlor employees make the same mistake when they send obituaries to our local newspaper. I hope those of us involved in genealogy will be alert to this and make the effort to be helpful to those who use these words incorrectly and point them toward correct usage. It's unfortunate that this mistake has been made in a Web site address as I'm afraid search engines are going to direct people who are looking for burials to sites about prisoners of war. Carole O. Cole ______________________________

anyone who wishes to see where the ancestral home is should go immed. after reading htis article in the asbury park press! _http://www.app.com/app/story/0,21625,1067572,00.html_ (http://www.app.com/app/story/0,21625,1067572,00.html) Morris-Saltar-Hartshorne-Tredwell house at 16 Ridge Road,Rumson, will ask the Planning Board at its meeting Monday for permission to tear it down. The meeting is at 7:30 p.m. in borough hall on East River Road. Also, if you are out of state, ask someone local to go photograph it for you!!! time is of the essence, possibly. You decide that after reading hte article.

Please ignore my first e-mail on this topic and use the second one instead. Carole O. Cole

It's a common mistake, but if www.internment.net is about burials, they have used the wrong word. I just checked the Web site, and they have it right. It's www.interment.net. It's some of our listers who have it wrong. intern is a verb, and means "to restrict to or confine within prescribed limits, as prisoners of war, enemy aliens, or combat troops who take refuge in a neutral country." internment is a noun and is "the act or an instance of interning, or the state of being interned; confinement." inter is a verb, and means "to deposit a dead body in a grave or tomb; bury." interment is a noun that means "the act or a ceremony of interring; burial." (Webster's Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary) The two words are not interchangeable and do not mean the same thing. Even funeral parlor employees make the same mistake when they send obituaries to our local newspaper. I hope those of us involved in genealogy will be alert to this and make the effort to be helpful to those who use these words incorrectly and point them toward correct usage. Carole O. Cole

It's a common mistake, but if www.internment.net is about burials, they have used the wrong word. intern is a verb, and means "to restrict to or confine within prescribed limits, as prisoners of war, enemy aliens, or combat troops who take refuge in a neutral country." internment is a noun and is "the act or an instance of interning, or the state of being interned; confinement." inter is a verb, and means "to deposit a dead body in a grave or tomb; bury." interment is a noun that means "the act or a ceremony of interring; burial." (Webster's Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary) The two words are not interchangeable and do not mean the same thing. Even funeral parlor employees make the same mistake when they send obituaries to our local newspaper. I hope those of us involved in genealogy will be alert to this and make the effort to be helpful to those who use these words incorrectly and point them toward correct usage. It's unfortunate that this mistake has been made in a Web site address as I'm afraid search engines are going to direct people who are looking for burials to sites about prisoners of war. Carole O. Cole