Winona: I hope I spelled your name wrong, I emailed earlier and told you to check the familytreemaker website, but I found the website. The website it called SCOL Sutfin/Sutphen/Sutphin/Sutvin cousins on line webaddress http://www.fred.net/msutphin/scol3.htm if you have a problem finding the site email me at bows@bellsouth.net Sharon