"Elias Van Court and the Coopers" sounds like a bad 60s band (grin) ... The information from the Raritan Church records sounds very worthwhile. I wonder if that's where the information on Elias+Ann's marriage came from. Does anyone know if those records are available, either online, in a book, or via LDS microfilm? I'm not seeing them anywhere ...

Thanks Pat for that site. Roberta Summers ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hello, For the extensive Harned genealogy, please refer to "www.Harned.org". On that site you can find all Harneds and their BMD's (if known) back to England in 1592. One of the very best family history sites, I recommend it highly. Also the Quaker records in Middlesex County will give you a primary source for many of the early BMD's. if they are not stated in the genealogy sources already. Pat ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

I have no known relationship to the Van Court or Cooper lines. My connections are through the Sebring, French and other related families of this same area. Hope this helps. J French Elias Vancourt found in: Colonial America, 1607-1789 Census Index State: NJ County: Somerset Co. Location: Bridgewater Twp Page #: 009 Census/Enumeration year: 1781 Census type code: Tax List Note: For the first name in this entry, the person who indexed the record was very uncertain about the transcription due to difficulties in deciphering the original records. The following additional information is provided about the record source: JANUARY ASSESSMENT Elias Van Court found in: Colonial America, 1607-1789 Census Index State: NJ County: Somerset Co. Location: Bridgewater Twp Page #: 006 Census/Enumeration year: 1779 Census type code: Tax List The following additional information is provided about the record source: SEPTEMBER ASSESSMENT ------------------------------ from Index of Wills & Inventories, Vol II, Middlesex Co., Pg 907, 908 Van Court, Anna 11242L. Inv. [inventory] 1827 Van Court, Elias 10707L. Inv. 1818 Van Court, Elias Sr., 2413-2421L. B.E. p. 449 W [will] 1750, Inv. 1750 Van Court, Samuel, 5687-5688L. Inv. 1778 Van Court, Samuel, 11661L. Inv 1833 Van Court, Thomas, 2829-2830L., 2941-2942L. B.F. p. 303 W. 1755 Inv. 1756 ----------------------------- RUN-away, from the Subscriber, living at Bound Brook, County of Somerset, and Province of New-Jersey, two Apprentice Lads, one of them named, William Kelly, 18 Years old, long brown Hair, about 5 Feet and 6 Inches, a well-set likely Boy: The other named Jacob Harris, 18 Years old light coloured Hair, and pretty short, and as they took two Suits of Cloaths each, 'tis needless to describe their Cloathing: They are both Taylors by Trade. Whoever takes up and secures the said Lad, so that their Master may have them again, shall have Ten Dollars Reward for both or five dollars for any one of them, and all reasonable Charges paid, by ELIAS VAN COURT N. B. All Masters of Vessels are forbid to carry them off, and other Persons from entertaining them at their Peril.--The New York Mercury, August 9, 1762. --------------------- Bibliographic Information: Monnette, Orra Eugene. First Settlers of Ye Plantations of Piscataway and Woodsridge Olde East New Jersey part 4. The Leroy Carman Press. California. 1931. VAN COURT OF PISCATAWAY ELIAS VAN COURT, SR., WAS A FIRST SETTLER OF PISCATAWAY. He came from the Isle of Guernsey, where he was born in the parish of St. Andre. He m. 1726, ANN COOPER, a sister of "old DANIEL COOPER." He was b. May 12, 1691, of Dutch parentage, and d. July 28, 1750. His father was THOMAS VAN COURT and his mother WOERKER. "They went to the Isle of Guernsey to escape religious persecution in France, being of the Reformed Faith of the pious Huguenots. The above and what follows are copied from an inscription in a French Testament, on the inside of the book cover in French words, and also from another book on religious essays:" "ELOIS VAN COURT, fils THOMAS VAN COURT, received this book from his uncle, Elois Woerker, on the 12th day of May, 1701, when he was ten years of age." " (O. B. L.) ELIAS VAN COURT had fourteen children, whose names and dates of birth are recorded in this French Testament and accompanying book, as follows: I. THOMAS, b. Feb. 8, 1717. II. ELIAS, b. Apr. 21, 1719. III. MOSES, b. Oct. 20, 1720. IV. JANE, b. May 21st, 1722. V. DANIEL, b. Mar. 22, 1724. VI. AGNES, b. Mar. 8, 1726. VII. JANE, b. Aug. 26, 1727, m. 1745, RICHARD RUNYON. VIII. THOMAS, b. Mar. 11, 1729. Page 327 IX. ANN, b. Aug. 27, 1730, m. 1749, BENJAMIN RUNYON. X. SAMUEL, twin-brother, of ANN. XI. ABRAM. b. May 28, 1732. XII. JOHN, b. Mar. 7, 1734. XIII. ELIZABETH, b. Dec. 20, 1735. XIV. MICHAEL, b. Jan. 6, 1739, (ARCH., Vol. XXX, p. 495), Will, dated April 4, proved Aug. 23, 1750. ------------------------------- The above information from Monnette will need to be verified. He sometimes made claims based on little or no evidence. I do not know who (O. B. L.) refers to. It may be that further information on the "French Testament" can be found in Monnette's research files. Seems I remember they are housed at a library in Los Angeles, but I could be remembering wrong. --------------------------------- Korpor = Cooper Lyas = Elias Bibliographic Information: Sebring, Walter Wilson. Sebring Collections. Yearbook House, INC. Missouri. 1975. (*) John Cletus Sebring made an extensive study of the Raritan Church records. Some of his notes and conclusions are as follows: Abigail Sebring & Daniel Korpor witnessed baptism of Elias, 7-26-1719, child of Lyas Van Court & wife, Enni (Anna). . . . Hans (Johannes) Sebering & wife, Aeltje, witnessed baptism of Aeltje, 12-17-1721, child of Willem Oolen & wife Abigail. . . . Hans (Johannes) Sebering & wife Aeltje witnessed baptism of Jannetje, 7-8-1722, child of Alias Van Court & wife Anna. . . . The logical conclusion of the aforesaid facts, and in accordance with Dutch patronymics, is that Abigail Sebring who sponsored Elias Van Court in 1719 was the daughter of Johannes Sebring, and was named for her maternal grandmother, Abigail, wife of Leffert Pieterse. ----------------------------- Somerset County Historical Quarterly Vol I p. 311 BOUND BROOK PRESBYTERIAN CHURCHYARD INSCRIPTIONS THE PRESBYTERIAN church at Bound Brook dates possibly from before 1700, which is the date assigned to it by the late Rev. Dr. Ravaud K. Rodgers, its former pastor. Its probable regular organization must be dated in 1725, when a plain building was erected. The churchyard contains many old and some illegible stones; perhaps the oldest now readable is over the grave of "Sarah, wife of James McCoy", who died Sept. 5, 1744. The stone of "Hannah, wife of Isaac Dye" is noted as of "1736," but is probably 1756 or 1786 instead, although the writer has made a search for the last-named stone in vain, owing to the high grass and old stones being much sunken in the ground. Other historians have said the "1744" stone was the oldest in the burying-ground. The cemetery is uncared for, and sadly needs attention. The old frame church on the grounds, dating from 1829, burned down Feb. 6, 1896, and a new building was erected corner of Mountain and Union avenues. The following abstract of inscriptions is made from the full inscriptions filed with the New Jersey Historical Society in 1907 by the late Mrs. M. A. Quinby, none, however, being of later date than about 1850. In ABSTRACT OF INSCRIPTIONS, 1736--ABOUT 1850 Van Court, Anna (widow of Elias), d. Nov. 12, 1827, aged 64 yrs. Van Court, Elias, d. Dec. 10, 1817, in 60th yr. -------------------------------- Somerset County Historical Quarterly Vol III p.257 PROVED SOMERSET LOSSES FROM CONTINENTAL TROOPS, 1776-'77 Van Court, Elias (Winter 1777). About 10 panels post and rail fence; 1 saddle about half worn; 1 white pine chest with lock; 1 small pine table and 3 chairs; 1 very good plate griddle; upper part of small desk; 1 iron pot; 1 hogshead; 1 wine pipe and 2 barrels. Also "my dwelling house intirely destroyed except the frame standing and ruff thereon and kitchen of ten feet frunt and twenty-five feet in rear all intirely gone," valued at œ30. Total œ34.10.6. Sworn before Tobias Van Norden. An additional affidavit accompanies above, by Edward Annely, taken before Nathaniel Ayers, "that he saw the troops belonging to the Continental army take down the chimney out of the said Elias Van Court's house and put the bricks in their wagons in June, 1777, and carried them over the mountains in camp." ---------------------------------- -----Original Message----- >From: Webblend@aol.com >Sent: Sep 19, 2007 6:28 PM >To: njmiddle@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NJMIDDLE] Elias Van Court and the Coopers > >Hello Van Court family members (and also the list). > > I too am a direct descendent of Elias Van Court and Ann Cooper. Their >daughter, Elizabeth married Nathaniel Harned from whom I am descended.

Hi Pat, Would you be willing to send me names and dates for Elizabeth & Nathaniel Harned family? I also need the marriage date for Elizabeth & Nathaniel. i have tha Elizabeth was born 20 Dec 1735 in Woodbridge and died 24 Nov 1807 in Woodbridge, does this match your information. Do you know if Elias VanCourt's father was Thomas? Thanks. Roberta Summers ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hello Van Court family members (and also the list). I too am a direct descendent of Elias Van Court and Ann Cooper. Their daughter, Elizabeth married Nathaniel Harned from whom I am descended. On-line information does not give any ORIGINAL sources for the Van Court family. In fact, I have never seen any mentioned anywhere.(I've been at this genealogy addiction thing for 30 years now) If anyone has seen or has access to an original source (remember the genealogical standards) for this family I would appreciate the information. I have a copy of the Marion G. Turk book "The Quiet Adventurers In North America" and she states that her info has come from a myriad of secondary sources and I believe it can be equated with a "place to start." The Van Court info in her book does not give anything more than what is already on the web. I also notice that someone on the web has stated a first marriage for Thomas Van Court. An Ann Van Sickle. No source again. But in Woodbridge there has been a Van Sickle family, in fact one taught me senior high school English. I personally will be starting (eventually) at the Latter Day Saints Family History LIBRARY in my area (recommend them highly to you; no, I am not a Mormon). Piscataway, Middlesex County, NJ is a good starting place and also Woodbridge to locate what ever primary sources exist. I also found on the Channel Island website that St. Andrews parish in Guernsey Island has records back to the 1500's. Maybe the LDS has filmed them for a look there. Or they have researchers that can do it (don't know the cost). I lived most of my life in Woodbridge (grew up, married, raised a family) and am probably the last Harned to leave there some 10 years ago. The Van Court name is not one I can remember hearing when I lived there. Where are they today? I know nothing about the Coopers but I would expect to find them in the records of perhaps, Piscataway or Northern, NJ area. Ancestry access, anyone? I would love to hear from you directly on the Van Courts and Coopers. Best Wishes, Pat Harned Blend ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hi Karen, I am also interested in what every information that you have on Elias VanCourt and his family. My husband is related to Jane Vancourt and Richard Runyon. Any help you can give me on Elias I would really appreciate. Do you have birth and death and marriage dates for Elias and maybe his parents? Chris sent me what he has on the children but he's not sure of any of it so what every you can give me on them I would really appreciate it. Thanks. Roberta Summers ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hi Chris, I'm a direct descendant of Elias Van Court and I have some information about them. I live in Georgia but I leave this Saturday for a 2 week genealogy trip back to Piscataway area and I'm planning to do some more research on these family members. I'd be happy to share any information I have about them. Let me know if you'd like info emailed directly to you and how many generations of information you'd like. Thanks and have a great week, Karen Clark ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SusanSkidmore960 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.middlesex/4111.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks so much, Lois! I appreciate your help... Susan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Chris, I am not able to help you with the VanCourt family but my husband has them in his family. The only children I have for Elias & Anne Cooper VanCourt is Jane & Anna. Jane married Richard Runyon and Anna married Benjamin Runyon. Would you be willing to give me the rest of Elias children and what every information you have on them? Also do you have birth and death dates for Elias & Anne? Where in Colorado do you live? I live in Woodland Park, Colorado and like you I can not make a trip to New Jersey to find all the information on family members that I need. Thanks. Roberta Summers ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

I'm trying to learn everything I can about Elias Van Court (1691-1750) who died in Woodbridge, and more importantly his wife Anne Cooper (1694-1779) who is very likely the sister of my great(6)-grandfather. They had 15 children, all in either New Brunswick or Piscataway. I've found a variety of web pages with information about these two, but I can't determine the actual source(s) of that information. Anybody familiar with the Van Courts? Suggestions for places to start looking (keeping in mind that I live in Colorado, and a trip to New Jersey won't happen anytime soon) ... Thanks, Chris

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: blpen Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.middlesex/4098.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry - forgot to inlude the link in the first posting. http://www.southplainfieldnj.com/Environmental Commission/sp5b1.htm Lois Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: blpen Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.middlesex/4098.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Check out the link below regarding the Samptown Baptist Cemetery. There is an address and phone number that may perhaps be helpful. Hope this helps. Lois Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: blpen Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.middlesex/4111.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found this small reference (link below) to Metuchen Motors location in the 1950's via Google. I no longer live in the area, so I don't know what would be there now, but perhaps this will help. Lois http://www.new-jersey.ws/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=8324 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: caugle Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.middlesex/4127/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello listers, I am trying to locate a William Karasa from Highland Park, N.J. I believe that he is related to a Sofie Karasa who was the sister of Susan Backsay who was married to Charles Belo. Looking for any information on these names. Thanks...........Connie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dfrankjo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.middlesex/401.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Mary Gavaletz was my father's sister. I have no death dates on this family. Florence was born Dec 15, 1925 and Michael Sept 3, 1935. Florence married Mike Henry and had two sons, James born March 1951 and Daile Robert March 1953 the last address was in Maryland. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello All, I have added another 20 pages to the book "East Jersey Under the Proprietors". It's on the web at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Vansant and related families No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.16/1005 - Release Date: 9/13/2007 11:45 AM

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: avmaud Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.middlesex/401.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The only Kochek I have is Michael William Kochek, b. 9 Jun 1900 in Perth Amboy, New Jersey. He married into my husband's family--Mary Gavaletz. They had two children, Michael and Florence. That is all I have on them. Do you know death dates or anything else for this family? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Vethhouse Surnames: Kochek Hodorovsky Portek Cartaret, NJ Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newjersey.counties.middlesex/401.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have Kocheks in my family from Cartaret. I would be interested in sharing info. Ray Veth, Middletown, NJ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello All, I have added another 20 pages to the book "East Jersey Under the Proprietors". It's on the web at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Vansant and related families No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.3/986 - Release Date: 9/3/2007 9:31 AM