This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zQB.2ACE/1758.1 Message Board Post: Thank you! I found some of my Connecticut ancestors data! Our ancestors were very close to each other. NJ and CT Karen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zQB.2ACE/1761.1 Message Board Post: If ;you want a death certificate, here's how to get it from the State of NJ.. http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/writein.shtml And here is where the form is: http://www.state.nj.us/health/forms/reg-3.dot They don't state it here, but they now require two forms of ID - I just got my latest request returned because of that. Good luck!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zQB.2ACE/1773.1 Message Board Post: Here is how to get a death certificate from the state of Nj. http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/writein.shtml And here is where the form is: http://www.state.nj.us/health/forms/reg-3.dot They don't state it here, but they now require two forms of ID - I just got my latest request returned because of that. Dunellen Library Phone number is 732-968-4585 The local paper would be the Plainfield (now Bridgewater) Courier News. http://www.c-n.com/c-n/index.shtml Good luck

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zQB.2ACE/1782.1 Message Board Post: If you know approximately when they died, you can send to the state of NJ for a death certificate. They will search mulitiple years for geneological purposes for a fee of $1 per year. Insturctions: http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/writein.shtml And here is where the form is: http://www.state.nj.us/health/forms/reg-3.dot They don't state it here, but they now require two forms of ID - I just got my latest request returned because of that. Good luck!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zQB.2ACE/1789.2 Message Board Post: You might also try to get the death certificate. Here is how to get a death certificate from the state of NJ. http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/writein.shtml And here is where the form is: http://www.state.nj.us/health/forms/reg-3.dot They don't state it here, but they now require two forms of ID - I just got my latest request returned because of that. Good luck!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zQB.2ACE/1792.1 Message Board Post: you can try getting a deth certificate to see if it has survivors. Instructions: http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/writein.shtml Forms: http://www.state.nj.us/health/forms/reg-3.dot Not stated here but I just found out that they require copies of 2 forms of ID. Good luck!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zQB.2ACE/1791.1 Message Board Post: Do you have the death certificate? If you are a relative, you can request one. IT shoudl have next of kin and parents information. Instructions: http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/writein.shtml Form: http://www.state.nj.us/health/forms/reg-3.dot

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zQB.2ACE/1795.2 Message Board Post: Kim Here is how to get a marriage certificate from the state of Nj. http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/writein.shtml And here is where the form is: http://www.state.nj.us/health/forms/reg-3.dot They don't state it here, but they now require two forms of ID - I just got my latest request returned because of that. Good luck!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zQB.2ACE/1796.1 Message Board Post: Here is a web site with the names of the current churches in Dunellen. http://www.rootsweb.com/~njmiddle/Towns/dunel.htm Thsi site also includes a 1909 city directory that may be interesting.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zQB.2ACE/1803.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: You are very welcome. You are correct. The weather is bitterly cold and no relief is in sight for now. The cemeteries are in various states of snow and ice, the roads throughout are trecherous and if the place is not in constant demand for new "occupancy", they do not exist at all. I have trudged through these places in the snow before (for my job) but am growing less fond of this every year. Without the ability to see the section I'm looking for, it is very well impossible to find Lot #s and graves. The "trick" is to find the superintendant, if there is one, who will drive me in his truck to the correct location. Today I had the "honor" of trudging through Trenton. I was armed with a map and my wits, both seemingly useless after 90 minutes. Now the capitol city is indeed spread out into different sections and districts. At some point north becomes south and vice versa, combined with many one-way streets, streets ending into walls(!), multiple names for the same road, no signs, and other suprises. I actually, though getting lost, got to see some of the funeral establishments I heard about in my childhood and the many tales of the proprietors in days of yore. I did finally find my destination, which was situated in a warehouse(!). Back to St. Mary's and Alpine. We were all told that if the cemetery was a seperate entity, in other words a cemetery association, they would maintain records. If the cemetery is seperate for it's members(parishioners) then the church would do all records, deeds, contracts, and usually, the interments and maintenance. This is of course, predicated on the ability of the church to handle such duties. St. Mary's may maintain the files and Alpine may do the dirty work, I'm not sure. As far as a listing of the cemeteries "inhabitants", there are literally THOUSANDS of remains, known, unknown, infants and children, limbs etc. marked and unmarked, It is only until very recently that an interest in historical preservation came into vogue. But other than the cemetery company, there isn't a person or service that lists cemeteries, dates and personal particulars. I was taught you could fit 3000 remains into an acre of plots. As you can see, it is next to a physical impossibility to mak! e a definative listing. I would check Alpine, armed with all the information you can find. If St. Mary's doesn't have records before 1940, ask them where they went to? Who were the funeral directors? Most around in 1930 are gone, but a few are still in various incarnations e.g. Mitruska Bros, Skrocki and Zylka. Maybe they would be a good lead. Who knows? Isn't it worth a try? Again, sorry for rambling incessantly. Regards, Christopher

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: vissotski Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zQB.2ACE/1221.1283.1 Message Board Post: umm my last name derived from the spelling wysaki.. maybe that may help

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zQB.2ACE/1803.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Thanks so much...no need for you to spend timing looking...as I said I have tramped around extensively (in the warmer months) and found some of my folks, but not all...so pls don't bother in this freezing weather!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zQB.2ACE/1803.1.1.1.3 Message Board Post: Thanks...I have been to Alpine/St. Mary's and spent hours wandering around, looking for ancestors' graves. I have all the relevant dates of death/burial, but as you noted, some graves are unmarked or the markers have deteriorated. A listing of burials - which St. Mary's Church does not have - would help. These exist for many cemeteries but I have not yet found one for St. Mary's...hoping someone knows where one might be found!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zQB.2ACE/1803.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: sorry i forgot to ask what name am i looking for..or is there something else you wanted or needed that i could try for you..

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zQB.2ACE/1803.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: hi....when the weather gets better ill take this trip back up there..its really not that far..an hour...i want to go back up and check somethings out anyway....my grandparents are driving me nuts...i know two birth places and have the addresses..but there are still some missing links...we are expecting some snow dusting tonight maybe an inch..and then on sunday...theyre not telling to much..but un official was mentioned the possibiltiy of 5 to 10...so nothing changes with the weather man....its always been and always will be in gods hands....so the cemetery might just be under a foot by the time this is done and right now its probably full of hard snow...gloria

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zQB.2ACE/1803.1.1.1 Message Board Post: You would make the "trek" 100% easier if there was a date of death, because of the ways that cemeteries organize burials. Nowadays, cemeteries are like, for lack of a better term, like a large filing cabinet, 2 grave plots here, 4 grave plots there, single plots over there, upright memorials here, flush memorials there, everything is in order. In the old days, organization happened by accident. If your ancestors were poor, like mine, then they may have buried their familiy members, wherever was cheaper. My own example was that my great-grandfather died in 1935, widowed, and out of 11 children, only one had a job. So he was buried at St. Peter's cemetery in the Italian's section in between(!) two plots, with no headstone to mark. So after many months of searching, I found the gravesite and double checked it, setting a marker, where it stands today. I asked his daughter, who is 97 now, "Why didn't anyone mark his grave then?" and she replied, "We just didn't know." So a date w! ould help tremendously. St. Mary's Church on Centre St. is a BEAUTIFUL building. Unfortunately, they have problems( the roof of the church collapsed after a storm, so the repairs will take another year) St Stephen's never had a cemetery, behind, beside or under the building. Now Alpine would be a well maintained cemetery to start (only wait until the snow and brutal cold retreats) They are at, Alpine Cemetery Association 703 Amboy Avenue Perth Amboy 732-442-0055 732-636-9156 after hours and weekends Sorry to ramble on and on, but I hope this helps. As ever, Christopher

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zQB.2ACE/1803.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks. I don't think there is any connection, but would welcome any thoughts anyone has!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/zQB.2ACE/335.859.869.879.1059.1066.1 Message Board Post: In your BIble is there a John Grove(s) born 1813 who married a Rose Ellen Applegate/Appleget? Family search has his birth and christening in 1813 and his mother's name is Elizabeth but that is it. Any help would be appreciated. Marcinda 'Cindy' Brown

I am looking for information on several generations of the Groves family that lived in the Cranbury/Jamesburg areas. The earliest ancestor for whom I have reasonably reliable (confirmed by multiple sources) information is Gideon Groves, who lived from about 1810/1812 to 1902. His death certificate lists his parents as Richard Groves and Hannah others in the family, it is a big deal. So, to get to the point, does anyone have information about this family, or would anyone be Lyons Groves. There are many references on Internet databases to the marriage of Richard and Hannah, so, although I do not have any original records to support this fact, I accept it as valid. There are also many references to a couple named John Groves and Ann (Anne/Anna) Runyon (also with spelling variations), who had children named Richard, Samuel, Martha, and Sarah (Sally/Sallie). I have never found any source besides the death certificate that connects Gideon with Richard and Hannah, and some of my husband's relatives are skeptical of this alleged relationship. They also seem to have a problem with the will of a John Grove (no S), in which his children (Samuel, Richard, Martha, and Sarah) are also listed as Grove (no S). I find it difficult to believe that there were both a John Grove and a John Groves with four children bearing the same names, living in the same, presumably small community in the early 1800s. The names Grove and Groves seem to be used almost interchangeably in many of the records I've seen, whether that is because of normal variations in spelling in an era when literacy was less than it is today or because of transcription and clerical errors over the years. To me, this is not a sticking point, but to willing to check a few records, to prove or disprove a relationship between Gideon, Richard, and John? I have never found any other likely suspect to be Gideon's father, but I am certainly willing to admit that my attempts to link these three men may be wrong.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zQB.2ACE/1803.1 Message Board Post: im not sure about this..but there is a st stephens church on state street..im trying to remember if there was a cemetery behind the church...if anyone remembers perhaps this would help you also..