The only source I have ever found for the information that Thomas married Martha Dunn was Monnette's "First settlers of ye plantations of Piscataway and Woodbridge, olde East New Jersey, 1664-1714". He gave no source. I sent to the NJ Archives for a copy of Hugh Dunn's estate packet. In Oct 1691, when he wrote his will, his daughter Martha was unmarried. "Item I do give and bequeath unto my dearly beloved Wife Elizabeth Dun all my [herd?] of Catle and [----old?] goods with all the moveables disposed of for the to be prudent to [ward?] well [--?--] up of my poor Children, especially to [--?--] my feather bed which after my wifes decease I give and beqeath unto my daughter Mary Dunn alius Mary Bonham wife to Hezekiah Bonham, and my daughters Elizabeth Dun and Martha Dun upon the day of their Marriage such part as well of my goods [Cattels?] as she in her discretion shall think [--?--] " The will is very interesting but in such poor condition that it is extremely difficult to read!!! I was hoping to find a settlement of accounts in the packet, because if Martha had married by the time the will had settled her share of the estate would have gone to her husband according to the law at that period. This can be clearly seen in Thomas Runyan's estate settlement for instance, where his sons and sons-in-law receive equal cash payments. It's possible, I suppose, that such a record may exist for Hugh Dunn's estate in some court order book, and that somehow no copy was included in the estate packet, but this would take a thorough search of the archives by someone who could actually go there. If money is no object, copies of the estate settlements of every one of Hugh Dunn's children could be obtained to see if there was any mention anywhere in any of them of a brother-in-law (often just referred to just as "brother" at that time) named Thomas Runyan in any of them. I have only checked the abstracts in "Calendar of New Jersey Wills". Deeds are another possibility, if you can get the actual documents. As far as I am concerned it is totally unproven at this point, and I have Thomas's wife listed as Martha (?) on my website and in my records. I try to be as accurate as I can. Carol Anne On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Mark <mpcc@comcast.net> wrote: > I have that same info regarding Thomas Runyan marrying Martha Dunn in > Piscataway, Middlesex, N.J. in 1698. Is this not true?????? > Mark >

I found in my notes that Thomas Runion (Runyon) married Martha Dunn, daughter of Hugh Dunn. Source is the Colonial Families of New Jersey Vol. 1. Land records show him as Tho. Runion. Mark mpcc@comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: Carol Anne Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 5:34 PM To: njhunter@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Martha Dunn and Thomas Runyan The only source I have ever found for the information that Thomas married Martha Dunn was Monnette's "First settlers of ye plantations of Piscataway and Woodbridge, olde East New Jersey, 1664-1714". He gave no source. I sent to the NJ Archives for a copy of Hugh Dunn's estate packet. In Oct 1691, when he wrote his will, his daughter Martha was unmarried. "Item I do give and bequeath unto my dearly beloved Wife Elizabeth Dun all my [herd?] of Catle and [----old?] goods with all the moveables disposed of for the to be prudent to [ward?] well [--?--] up of my poor Children, especially to [--?--] my feather bed which after my wifes decease I give and beqeath unto my daughter Mary Dunn alius Mary Bonham wife to Hezekiah Bonham, and my daughters Elizabeth Dun and Martha Dun upon the day of their Marriage such part as well of my goods [Cattels?] as she in her discretion shall think [--?--] " The will is very interesting but in such poor condition that it is extremely difficult to read!!! I was hoping to find a settlement of accounts in the packet, because if Martha had married by the time the will had settled her share of the estate would have gone to her husband according to the law at that period. This can be clearly seen in Thomas Runyan's estate settlement for instance, where his sons and sons-in-law receive equal cash payments. It's possible, I suppose, that such a record may exist for Hugh Dunn's estate in some court order book, and that somehow no copy was included in the estate packet, but this would take a thorough search of the archives by someone who could actually go there. If money is no object, copies of the estate settlements of every one of Hugh Dunn's children could be obtained to see if there was any mention anywhere in any of them of a brother-in-law (often just referred to just as "brother" at that time) named Thomas Runyan in any of them. I have only checked the abstracts in "Calendar of New Jersey Wills". Deeds are another possibility, if you can get the actual documents. As far as I am concerned it is totally unproven at this point, and I have Thomas's wife listed as Martha (?) on my website and in my records. I try to be as accurate as I can. Carol Anne On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Mark <mpcc@comcast.net> wrote: > I have that same info regarding Thomas Runyan marrying Martha Dunn in > Piscataway, Middlesex, N.J. in 1698. Is this not true?????? > Mark > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And what was their source? Monette's book? Are we going in circles here maybe? It gets really frustrating sometimes! We need a primary source. If you're new to genealogy a "primary" source is one made at or near the time of the event. For instance your great-grandmother's death certificate would be a primary source for the date of her death, but a secondary source for the date of her birth, as it was not made near the time of her birth. And if someone makes an abstract of the information on the death certificate and publishes it in a book, the book is a tertiary source. Today good genealogists cite their sources when they publish so that a reader can find the sources that were used and check them out to validate the assertions and interpretations if necessary. That was not often done at the time Monnette wrote. Carol Anne On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Mark <mpcc@comcast.net> wrote: > I found in my notes that Thomas Runion (Runyon) married Martha Dunn, > daughter of Hugh Dunn. > Source is the Colonial Families of New Jersey  Vol. 1. > Land records show him as Tho. Runion. > > Mark > mpcc@comcast.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Anne > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 5:34 PM > To: njhunter@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Martha Dunn and Thomas Runyan > > The only source I have ever found for the information that Thomas > married Martha Dunn was Monnette's "First settlers of ye plantations > of Piscataway and Woodbridge, olde East New Jersey, 1664-1714". He > gave no source. > > I sent to the NJ Archives for a copy of Hugh Dunn's estate packet. In > Oct 1691, when he wrote his will, his daughter Martha was unmarried. > "Item I do give and bequeath unto my dearly beloved Wife Elizabeth Dun > all my [herd?] of Catle and [----old?] goods with all the moveables > disposed of for the to be prudent to [ward?] well [--?--] up of my > poor Children, especially  to [--?--] my feather bed  which after my > wifes decease I give and beqeath unto my daughter Mary Dunn alius Mary > Bonham wife to Hezekiah Bonham, and my daughters Elizabeth Dun and > Martha Dun upon the day of their Marriage such part  as well of my > goods [Cattels?] as she in her discretion shall think [--?--] " > > The will is very interesting but in such poor condition that it is > extremely difficult to read!!! I was hoping to find a settlement of > accounts in the packet, because if Martha had married by the time the > will had settled her share of the estate would have gone to her > husband according to the law at that period. This can be clearly seen > in Thomas Runyan's estate settlement for instance, where his sons and > sons-in-law receive equal cash payments. It's possible, I suppose, > that such a record may exist for Hugh Dunn's estate in some court > order book, and that somehow no copy was included in the estate > packet, but this would take a thorough search of the archives by > someone who could actually go there. > > If money is no object, copies of the estate settlements of every one > of Hugh Dunn's children could be obtained to see if there was any > mention anywhere in any of them of a brother-in-law (often just > referred to just as "brother" at that time) named Thomas Runyan in any > of them. I have only checked the abstracts in "Calendar of New Jersey > Wills". Deeds are another possibility, if you can get the actual > documents. > > As far as I am concerned it is totally unproven at this point, and I > have Thomas's wife listed as Martha (?) on my website and in my > records. I try to be as accurate as I can. > > Carol Anne > > On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Mark <mpcc@comcast.net> wrote: >> I have that same info regarding Thomas Runyan marrying Martha Dunn in >> Piscataway, Middlesex, N.J. in 1698. Is this not true?????? >> Mark >> > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message