In a message dated 10/22/2004 4:47:11 AM US Mountain Standard Time, pamelynb@enter.net writes: I have found the Philhower notebooks, the Apgar books, Seals notebook, and other family compilations to be of great help, especially since they were compiled by a member of the family. Dear Pam, I am researching the 3 above surnames, along with SWICK. Can you tell me about the notebooks you mentioned and maybe where I might be able to get them or research their contents. I have seen the Apgar web page, is this notebook something different? Appreciate any help you can share. Gloria in Arizona