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    1. Re: [NJHUNTER] Chamberlins in OH and Claytons
    2. I was recently on a genealogy trip to NE Ohio researching my Connecticut lines that moved there. I also descend from William (1772-1851) and Elizabeth (Duckworth) Chamberlin from Hunterdon Co. who are buried in Vienna, Trumbull Co., OH. I took pictures of their tombstones, if anyone else is related and would like a picture. The stones are quite faded because of their age. I believe William's grandmother was Eleanor Clayton who married Joseph Taylor ca. 1725. I believe her father was John Clayton and his wife Alice _____. I have very little information on the Claytons and have not seen Raymond Bell's book on the Clayton's (although I have seen his research on another family of mine in PA). If this family is mentioned in Raymond's Bell's book I'd love to pay you for a copy of the relevant pages. -----Original Message----- From: Anita G Clayton <rclaytonsr@juno.com> To: NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:59:09 -0400 Subject: [NJHUNTER] road surveys, also Claytons in Ohio >May I ask whether you still have access to that film? If you do, and if it's not asking too much, could you please look for OSBORN, if there is an index of surnames? Mary Jane, That film is still there. It is only an index and this film is only the section of the index from Road to Thorp and doesn't cover the name Osborn, sorry. As I said, it is the only one of that index series that is there. On the Claytons that you asked about, Warren Co. Ohio is full of NJ people. You don't give any dates, which makes it hard. Could Mary Clayton have been born in 1777 (feb 18)? I have a book The Study of the Claytons of Monmouth co. NJ, done by Raymond Martin Bell. He mentions a Mary dau of Thomas, but they are from Perry Co Ohio, which isn't really close to Perry county. Those Claytons had moved form NJ probably to Hampton co WV in c.1775 and on to Ohio. Anita ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== This mail list is archived at: http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

    05/27/2005 05:22:36
    1. RE: [NJHUNTER] Chamberlins in OH and Claytons
    2. Bellis Genealogy
    3. Jan, I have: Peter BELLESFELT, b. 1756 Flemington, Hunterdon Co NJ; m. Jane VanHORN. Peter died and was buried in Trumbull Co OH (? now Mahoning Co?) in 1844 on the farm of Eli YOUNG, his son-in-law. Peter fought in the Revolution and served for a period of time with the PA Frontier Rangers in SW PA; owned land in Fallowfield Twp, Washington Co PA before moving to OH. I have no idea who his father was... I have in my files reference to a marriage of "George DUCKWORTH and Elizabeth BELLIS"...but nothing more...no dates/location, etc. Do you have this couple in your files...and any dates/locations associated with them? Do you have any idea how or why CHAMBERLIN ended up in Trumbull Co OH? Thanks, Roz BELLIS Alexandria VA -----Original Message----- From: janalpert@aol.com [mailto:janalpert@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 11:23 AM To: NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Chamberlins in OH and Claytons I was recently on a genealogy trip to NE Ohio researching my Connecticut lines that moved there. I also descend from William (1772-1851) and Elizabeth (Duckworth) Chamberlin from Hunterdon Co. who are buried in Vienna, Trumbull Co., OH. I took pictures of their tombstones, if anyone else is related and would like a picture. The stones are quite faded because of their age. I believe William's grandmother was Eleanor Clayton who married Joseph Taylor ca. 1725. I believe her father was John Clayton and his wife Alice _____. I have very little information on the Claytons and have not seen Raymond Bell's book on the Clayton's (although I have seen his research on another family of mine in PA). If this family is mentioned in Raymond's Bell's book I'd love to pay you for a copy of the relevant pages. -----Original Message----- From: Anita G Clayton <rclaytonsr@juno.com> To: NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:59:09 -0400 Subject: [NJHUNTER] road surveys, also Claytons in Ohio >May I ask whether you still have access to that film? If you do, and if it's not asking too much, could you please look for OSBORN, if there is an index of surnames? Mary Jane, That film is still there. It is only an index and this film is only the section of the index from Road to Thorp and doesn't cover the name Osborn, sorry. As I said, it is the only one of that index series that is there. On the Claytons that you asked about, Warren Co. Ohio is full of NJ people. You don't give any dates, which makes it hard. Could Mary Clayton have been born in 1777 (feb 18)? I have a book The Study of the Claytons of Monmouth co. NJ, done by Raymond Martin Bell. He mentions a Mary dau of Thomas, but they are from Perry Co Ohio, which isn't really close to Perry county. Those Claytons had moved form NJ probably to Hampton co WV in c.1775 and on to Ohio. Anita ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== This mail list is archived at: http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== This mail list is archived at: http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

    05/27/2005 05:09:49
    1. Re: [NJHUNTER] Chamberlins in OH and Claytons
    2. Cinda Justice
    3. To All, I know there is controversy over this but I have checked it out with a chemist and a stone cutter and both agreed there was no harm done to the tombstones.... So if you wish to do it fine.... and if you think it would hurt, don't. In going to old cemeteries, I have used shaving cream to cover the areas of print, then scraped off the cream with a heavy piece of cardboard leaving the cream in the dents made in the stones. Then I take a picture of the stone because the camera does not see depth like the human eye and you will be able to read the pictures even on white stones... It works great for those stones under trees or on cold rainy days. In fact I prefer to do it on cloudy days as the white cream shows up even more clearly. When I am finished snapping and recording... I spray the stone with water to remove the cream and wipe it off with a paper towel. Many of the stones I photographed 10 years ago are now broken and gone and I am glad I recorded them when I did. If you would like to see a picture of one of the stones, I will be happy to privately e-mail you one... My chemist said that if the soap ate away stone all the men who shaved every day would have no skin. :+) Like I said, you can decide for yourself. Cinda in OH ----- Original Message ----- From: <janalpert@aol.com> To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Chamberlins in OH and Claytons > I was recently on a genealogy trip to NE Ohio researching my Connecticut > lines that moved there. > I also descend from William (1772-1851) and Elizabeth (Duckworth) > Chamberlin from Hunterdon Co. who are buried in Vienna, Trumbull Co., OH. > I took pictures of their tombstones, if anyone else is related and would > like a picture. The stones are quite faded because of their age. > > I believe William's grandmother was Eleanor Clayton who married Joseph > Taylor ca. 1725. I believe her father was John Clayton and his wife Alice > _____. I have very little information on the Claytons and have not seen > Raymond Bell's book on the Clayton's (although I have seen his research on > another family of mine in PA). If this family is mentioned in Raymond's > Bell's book I'd love to pay you for a copy of the relevant pages. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anita G Clayton <rclaytonsr@juno.com> > To: NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:59:09 -0400 > Subject: [NJHUNTER] road surveys, also Claytons in Ohio > > >>May I ask whether you still have access to that film? If you do, and if > it's not asking too much, could you please look for OSBORN, if there is > an index of surnames? > > Mary Jane, > That film is still there. It is only an index and this film is only the > section of the index from Road to Thorp and doesn't cover the name > Osborn, sorry. As I said, it is the only one of that index series that > is there. > > On the Claytons that you asked about, Warren Co. Ohio is full of NJ > people. You don't give any dates, which makes it hard. > > Could Mary Clayton have been born in 1777 (feb 18)? I have a book The > Study of the Claytons of Monmouth co. NJ, done by Raymond Martin Bell. > He mentions a Mary dau of Thomas, but they are from Perry Co Ohio, which > isn't really close to Perry county. Those Claytons had moved form NJ > probably to Hampton co WV in c.1775 and on to Ohio. > > Anita > > > ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== > This mail list is archived at: > http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== > This mail list is archived at: > http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

    05/28/2005 04:22:58
    1. Re: [NJHUNTER] Gravestone preservation
    2. Lynne
    3. Cinda wrote: > In going to old cemeteries, I have used shaving cream to cover the areas > of print, then scraped off the cream with a heavy piece of cardboard > leaving the cream in the dents made in the stones. May I suggest that before any of the readers of this list do that, they also read this opinion from the Association for Gravstone Studies: http://www.gravestonestudies.org/preservation.htm and Cinda wrote: > My chemist said that if the soap ate away stone all the men who shaved > every day would have no skin. and as you can see from the article to which I referred above, the problem is not so much erosion as it is eventual discoloration and the inevitable damage from contact. Re the humorous observation about men, I would like only to point out that most of them do not live much more than 85 years and that their skin is always growing and replacing what is lost ... something the gravestone, alas, cannot do. The only other point I would like to ask people to consider is that the gravestones belong to all of us and before making any physical contact with them, please research what you are considering doing. One descendant recently tackled several gravestones in a nearby Rev War era cemetery and angrily scrubbed them all down with a scrub brush and bleach because "no one was taking care of them." Alas, that act terribly eroded the surface of the ancient stones and has now shortened their lives so much more. The safest method of reading the stones, and one which has worked well for me and my friends, has been to use mirrors to reflect the light across the stones at an angle. Our tiny local history museum was given an 1830's stone that was found in a backyard and I was asked to find out whose it was. It was on the floor of our museum and I tried for hours to decipher it, but it was not until the sun was setting and the slanted light fell across the stone that I was able to read -- with ease -- what the inscription was. And no harm was done to the stone whatsoever. Thank you for letting me present a plea for the conservative approach! Lynne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <janalpert@aol.com> > To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 11:22 AM > Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Chamberlins in OH and Claytons > > >> I was recently on a genealogy trip to NE Ohio researching my Connecticut >> lines that moved there. >> I also descend from William (1772-1851) and Elizabeth (Duckworth) >> Chamberlin from Hunterdon Co. who are buried in Vienna, Trumbull Co., >> OH. I took pictures of their tombstones, if anyone else is related and >> would like a picture. The stones are quite faded because of their age. >> >> I believe William's grandmother was Eleanor Clayton who married Joseph >> Taylor ca. 1725. I believe her father was John Clayton and his wife >> Alice _____. I have very little information on the Claytons and have not >> seen Raymond Bell's book on the Clayton's (although I have seen his >> research on another family of mine in PA). If this family is mentioned in >> Raymond's Bell's book I'd love to pay you for a copy of the relevant >> pages. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Anita G Clayton <rclaytonsr@juno.com> >> To: NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:59:09 -0400 >> Subject: [NJHUNTER] road surveys, also Claytons in Ohio >> >> >>>May I ask whether you still have access to that film? If you do, and if >> it's not asking too much, could you please look for OSBORN, if there is >> an index of surnames? >> >> Mary Jane, >> That film is still there. It is only an index and this film is only the >> section of the index from Road to Thorp and doesn't cover the name >> Osborn, sorry. As I said, it is the only one of that index series that >> is there. >> >> On the Claytons that you asked about, Warren Co. Ohio is full of NJ >> people. You don't give any dates, which makes it hard. >> >> Could Mary Clayton have been born in 1777 (feb 18)? I have a book The >> Study of the Claytons of Monmouth co. NJ, done by Raymond Martin Bell. >> He mentions a Mary dau of Thomas, but they are from Perry Co Ohio, which >> isn't really close to Perry county. Those Claytons had moved form NJ >> probably to Hampton co WV in c.1775 and on to Ohio. >> >> Anita >> >> >> ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== >> This mail list is archived at: >> http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== >> This mail list is archived at: >> http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== > This mail list is archived at: > http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

    05/28/2005 04:43:14