In a message dated 6/21/2005 9:56:21 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, dlamerson@hvc.rr.com writes: I saw Lantz is this the same family as Lance? At the Higginson book store. Yes, this is the same family. The three brothers arrived October 1738 and moved up river to the German Valley, Blairstown, Walnut Valley areas. Laurence