Hi Roz, As I am a Durling descendent I have almost the whole Dorlandt/Dorland/Darland/Durland/Durling line in my files. The name was originally Dorlandt. Two cousins came here in the 1600's--Jan Gerretse Dorlandt in 1652, and Lambert Janse Dorlandt in April 1663 on the ship "De Bonte Koe" (the Spotted Cow). Both came from Holland and are descendents of Gerard Splinter Van Ruwiel b. 1298 in Kortenhoef, Holland. We descend from Lambert. My great grandfather William H. Durling is the 1st cousin 3xremoved of John/Johannes Dorlandt who married Catherine Van Arsdale/Liew. In addition he is also the 2nd cousin 3xremoved of John's spouse Catherine Van Arsdale/Liew as she is also a Van Cleef descendent as is William H. Durling. My info on the John/Johannes-Catherine Van Arsdale line is a little different than yours though. Catherine VAN ARSDALE has proved out to be Catherine VAN LIEW. It is thought that Johannes died in the Indian Raids during the summer of 1780 in Jefferson Co., KY as all references to him end about that time. Catherine married William Lucas March 27, 1786. Abraham Dorland-the son of Johannes and Catherine I have with a spouse named Sally Brown. They were married November 28, 1804 in Nicholas Co., KY. Is Sally Brown the sister to Phillip Bellis's wife. You did not mention her name. Is she a Brown as well? I do not know the name of the spouse of Jeremiah Crow. All I know is the name and death date of 1838 that Kathi Roff had. Apparently she was looking for info on him as well. I have not been able to connect him with my John Cray b. abt. 1770 yet, although I think that Kathi thought that he was John's father. I believe that John had a brother Christopher, but I have no proof of that or parents for either man. "Shannock" is an alteration of the name "Neshanic" which is an area of Hillsborough Twp., Somerset County. There currently is Neshanic which is the general area and Neshanic Station which is the actual village in Hillsborough, Somerset County. Jackie Wells Lubinski jwlube@ptd.net -----Original Message----- From: Bellis Genealogy [mailto:bellisgenealogy@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:26 AM To: NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [NJHUNTER] Jeremiah CROW; William DURLING; BELLIS Hi Jackie, Thanks for this info on CROW/CRAY. I don't know if we connect or not...I simply have been trying to find out more information on a "Jeremiah CROW" for the past several years and I stumbled upon Kathi ROFF's old post. There was a Johan Wilhelm BOLLESFELDT (William BELLIS) (bp. 1713 in Nordhofen GERMANY; d. after 1771 in Somerset Co NJ) who lived near Ten Mile Run. He married Anna Catharina KEMPEL in the Reformed Dutch Church, NY, in 1743. They apparently had four children: Adam m. Catrina DILTS; Wilhelm (who may have died at the Battle of Monmouth...maybe not!); Maria m. Jeremiah CROW; and Ure m. Mr. STEVENSON and moved to PA. According to "Bellis Ancestors and Cousins" authored by Tom and Genevieve BELLIS, Adam and Catrina lived near Shannock, Hillsborough Twp., Somerset Co NJ, and had five or more children of which at least three moved to Ohio and Kentucky after the Revolution. Some of those children ultimately returned home to NJ. I am trying to ascertain whether any of Adam's siblings may have also tried moving to the frontier along with their nieces and nephews, and possibly returned back to NJ as well. (I also suspect his brother William, may not have died at Monmouth, but instead headed West...) I have never been able to find anything on Maria or her husband Jeremiah "CROW"... Your William H. DURLING is intriguing, however... My ancestor, Philip BELLIS, was born circa 1792-95 in "NJ" but I have yet to confirm who his father was -- there were several BELLIS/BELLES/BELLAS families in the NJ/PA area who could be candidates. Philip first pops up in courthouse records in Nicholas Co KY when he marries in 1813; a few years later he bought a small parcel of land there on "Somerset Creek" from his brother-in-law Abraham DORLAND. Abraham's parents were John/Johannes DORLAND (b. 1740) and Catherine Van AERSDALE (VanARSDALEN) of Harlingen, Somerset Co NJ. According to online databases, John sold his NJ land to Cornelius TIENBROCK in 1778; moved to VA; died circa 1786 in Jefferson Co KY and buried in Berkeley Co WV. Catherine remarried William LUCAS, who apparently was also from Harlingen. Over the years I've noticed the DORLAND and DURLING names being intertwined/interchanged. Do you have any idea if your William DURLING is connected to John DORLAND? Do you happen to know who the wife was of the Jeremiah CROW who died in 1836? Thanks again! Roz Bellis Alexandria VA

Hi Jackie, Thanks for the additional info! I had not known that "Shannock" and "Neshanic" were one in the same...that makes things easier... The info I have on DORLAND is taken entirely from the internet, not from my own research, to include the relationship between Philip and Abraham DORLAND. Abraham was married to Sally BROWN who was (apparently) the sister of Mary (Polly), wife of Philip. The CROW family has been very difficult to crack. One reason for my continued interest in this family, other than the marriage between Mary BELLIS and Jeremiah CROW, is because there were CROWs in KY as early as 1782. After the Battle of Blue Licks, Peter BELLESFELT (b. 1743, son of immigrant Adam of Amwell Twp. Hunterdon Co NJ) and a man named CROW were charged by the court to dispose of the property of Colonel Ezekiel FIELDS who had been killed in the battle. This was the same CROW (or his brother) who established Crow's Station, now Danville, Boyle Co KY. These CROW were from the Culpeper VA area, as had been FIELDS. They may also have been the same CROW who accompanied Daniel BOONE into KY on those early survey trips. I've never been able to make any connection between the VA and NJ CROWs, but remain curious about info (i.e., from internet databases) which indicates that Cornelius RINGO (b. 1739 Amwell, Hunterdon Co NJ d. 1824 Henry Co KY) probably spent time in Fauquier/Culpeper Co VA prior to ending up in KY as he had grandchildren born there. Two of his ggrandchildren married CROWs in KY; these CROW seem to have descended from a family originally from MD (early 1700's) but who may have been related to the Culpeper CROW family. Perhaps there's no connection at all...just a coincidence of names...between the NJ and VA CROW families. Thanks again, Roz Bellis Alexandria VA -----Original Message----- From: Jacqueline Lubinski [mailto:jwlube@ptd.net] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:49 PM To: NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [NJHUNTER] Jeremiah CROW; William DURLING; BELLIS Hi Roz, As I am a Durling descendent I have almost the whole Dorlandt/Dorland/Darland/Durland/Durling line in my files. The name was originally Dorlandt. Two cousins came here in the 1600's--Jan Gerretse Dorlandt in 1652, and Lambert Janse Dorlandt in April 1663 on the ship "De Bonte Koe" (the Spotted Cow). Both came from Holland and are descendents of Gerard Splinter Van Ruwiel b. 1298 in Kortenhoef, Holland. We descend from Lambert. My great grandfather William H. Durling is the 1st cousin 3xremoved of John/Johannes Dorlandt who married Catherine Van Arsdale/Liew. In addition he is also the 2nd cousin 3xremoved of John's spouse Catherine Van Arsdale/Liew as she is also a Van Cleef descendent as is William H. Durling. My info on the John/Johannes-Catherine Van Arsdale line is a little different than yours though. Catherine VAN ARSDALE has proved out to be Catherine VAN LIEW. It is thought that Johannes died in the Indian Raids during the summer of 1780 in Jefferson Co., KY as all references to him end about that time. Catherine married William Lucas March 27, 1786. Abraham Dorland-the son of Johannes and Catherine I have with a spouse named Sally Brown. They were married November 28, 1804 in Nicholas Co., KY. Is Sally Brown the sister to Phillip Bellis's wife. You did not mention her name. Is she a Brown as well? I do not know the name of the spouse of Jeremiah Crow. All I know is the name and death date of 1838 that Kathi Roff had. Apparently she was looking for info on him as well. I have not been able to connect him with my John Cray b. abt. 1770 yet, although I think that Kathi thought that he was John's father. I believe that John had a brother Christopher, but I have no proof of that or parents for either man. "Shannock" is an alteration of the name "Neshanic" which is an area of Hillsborough Twp., Somerset County. There currently is Neshanic which is the general area and Neshanic Station which is the actual village in Hillsborough, Somerset County. Jackie Wells Lubinski jwlube@ptd.net -----Original Message----- From: Bellis Genealogy [mailto:bellisgenealogy@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:26 AM To: NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [NJHUNTER] Jeremiah CROW; William DURLING; BELLIS Hi Jackie, Thanks for this info on CROW/CRAY. I don't know if we connect or not...I simply have been trying to find out more information on a "Jeremiah CROW" for the past several years and I stumbled upon Kathi ROFF's old post. There was a Johan Wilhelm BOLLESFELDT (William BELLIS) (bp. 1713 in Nordhofen GERMANY; d. after 1771 in Somerset Co NJ) who lived near Ten Mile Run. He married Anna Catharina KEMPEL in the Reformed Dutch Church, NY, in 1743. They apparently had four children: Adam m. Catrina DILTS; Wilhelm (who may have died at the Battle of Monmouth...maybe not!); Maria m. Jeremiah CROW; and Ure m. Mr. STEVENSON and moved to PA. According to "Bellis Ancestors and Cousins" authored by Tom and Genevieve BELLIS, Adam and Catrina lived near Shannock, Hillsborough Twp., Somerset Co NJ, and had five or more children of which at least three moved to Ohio and Kentucky after the Revolution. Some of those children ultimately returned home to NJ. I am trying to ascertain whether any of Adam's siblings may have also tried moving to the frontier along with their nieces and nephews, and possibly returned back to NJ as well. (I also suspect his brother William, may not have died at Monmouth, but instead headed West...) I have never been able to find anything on Maria or her husband Jeremiah "CROW"... Your William H. DURLING is intriguing, however... My ancestor, Philip BELLIS, was born circa 1792-95 in "NJ" but I have yet to confirm who his father was -- there were several BELLIS/BELLES/BELLAS families in the NJ/PA area who could be candidates. Philip first pops up in courthouse records in Nicholas Co KY when he marries in 1813; a few years later he bought a small parcel of land there on "Somerset Creek" from his brother-in-law Abraham DORLAND. Abraham's parents were John/Johannes DORLAND (b. 1740) and Catherine Van AERSDALE (VanARSDALEN) of Harlingen, Somerset Co NJ. According to online databases, John sold his NJ land to Cornelius TIENBROCK in 1778; moved to VA; died circa 1786 in Jefferson Co KY and buried in Berkeley Co WV. Catherine remarried William LUCAS, who apparently was also from Harlingen. Over the years I've noticed the DORLAND and DURLING names being intertwined/interchanged. Do you have any idea if your William DURLING is connected to John DORLAND? 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