Can anyone shed light on this baptism location? The source for the 1758 baptism of Johan Adam Croesman (Crissman/Cressman) is "Records of Augustus Evangelical Lutheran Church in Trappe, PA" published in PA German Society Proceedings, Vol. 4, p. 226 under the heading of "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan". In 1758, Trappe, PA, was in an area of Philadelphia County that became Montgomery Co. The minister of the the old Lutheran church at Trappe was the Rev. Muhlenberg. The parents of J. Adam Croesman were J. George (the Saddler) Croesman and Anna Margaretha Renn. They lived near Trappe. It would seem likely that their baby would be baptized by their minister at Trappe (that was their church). However, the additional notation that the baptism was under the heading "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan" has me puzzled. I tried googling Musquenickung and got nothing. I found a Raritan in NJ, but I am not sure it is the right Raritan. In 1758, was there a place called Musquenickung in Old Hunterdon County? Was Raritan in Old Hunterdon County? And did the Rev. Muhlenberg of Trappe, PA, travel to these places to conduct baptisms for the babies born to his Trappe members? Helen Graves -- who is researching J. George 'the Saddler' Croesman who lived near Trappe, PA, in 1758 and his wife Anna Margaretha Renn, who was probably from New Jersey. All I know about her is she was the daughter of a Leanardt Renn "of New Jersey". Have no idea where he lived in NJ but now suspect a place called Musquenickung or near Raritan due to this baptism entry.

Helen, While this is not my family, I do know a little about Henry Melchior Muhlenberg, "The father of Lutheranism in America". He traveled from Georgia to New York state in establishing congregations or in placing the first pastors in them. Muhlenberg brought the pastor who served my gggg grandfather's congregation (in Berks County, PA) to that church (from Germany). So, he could have baptized in New Jersey. Also, is it possible that the word you need with Raritan is Musquenetcong? There is a river in New Jersey by that name, and it came from the Native Americans. Hope this helps somewhat. Bob Kitchen Helen Graves <[email protected]> wrote: Can anyone shed light on this baptism location? The source for the 1758 baptism of Johan Adam Croesman (Crissman/Cressman) is "Records of Augustus Evangelical Lutheran Church in Trappe, PA" published in PA German Society Proceedings, Vol. 4, p. 226 under the heading of "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan". In 1758, Trappe, PA, was in an area of Philadelphia County that became Montgomery Co. The minister of the the old Lutheran church at Trappe was the Rev. Muhlenberg. The parents of J. Adam Croesman were J. George (the Saddler) Croesman and Anna Margaretha Renn. They lived near Trappe. It would seem likely that their baby would be baptized by their minister at Trappe (that was their church). However, the additional notation that the baptism was under the heading "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan" has me puzzled. I tried googling Musquenickung and got nothing. I found a Raritan in NJ, but I am not sure it is the right Raritan. In 1758, was there a place called Musquenickung in Old Hunterdon County? Was Raritan in Old Hunterdon County? And did the Rev. Muhlenberg of Trappe, PA, travel to these places to conduct baptisms for the babies born to his Trappe members? Helen Graves -- who is researching J. George 'the Saddler' Croesman who lived near Trappe, PA, in 1758 and his wife Anna Margaretha Renn, who was probably from New Jersey. All I know about her is she was the daughter of a Leanardt Renn "of New Jersey". Have no idea where he lived in NJ but now suspect a place called Musquenickung or near Raritan due to this baptism entry. Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Hi, It may be Musconetcong. That is the name of the river. I don't know if it was also a place name now or then. Raritan is and was a river also. So it may be settlements along both rivers. If it does mean the rivers the Raritan settlements would probably be on the south branch. Bill Boscia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Graves" <[email protected]> To: "NJ Hunterdon Co." <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:11 PM Subject: [NJHUNTER] 1758 baptisms at Musquenickung and Raritan? Can anyone shed light on this baptism location? The source for the 1758 baptism of Johan Adam Croesman (Crissman/Cressman) is "Records of Augustus Evangelical Lutheran Church in Trappe, PA" published in PA German Society Proceedings, Vol. 4, p. 226 under the heading of "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan". In 1758, Trappe, PA, was in an area of Philadelphia County that became Montgomery Co. The minister of the the old Lutheran church at Trappe was the Rev. Muhlenberg. The parents of J. Adam Croesman were J. George (the Saddler) Croesman and Anna Margaretha Renn. They lived near Trappe. It would seem likely that their baby would be baptized by their minister at Trappe (that was their church). However, the additional notation that the baptism was under the heading "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan" has me puzzled. I tried googling Musquenickung and got nothing. I found a Raritan in NJ, but I am not sure it is the right Raritan. In 1758, was there a place called Musquenickung in Old Hunterdon County? Was Raritan in Old Hunterdon County? And did the Rev. Muhlenberg of Trappe, PA, travel to these places to conduct baptisms for the babies born to his Trappe members? Helen Graves -- who is researching J. George 'the Saddler' Croesman who lived near Trappe, PA, in 1758 and his wife Anna Margaretha Renn, who was probably from New Jersey. All I know about her is she was the daughter of a Leanardt Renn "of New Jersey". Have no idea where he lived in NJ but now suspect a place called Musquenickung or near Raritan due to this baptism entry. Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Two other places that might be able to help with the information/names on the baptismal certificate: 1) Lutheran Theological Seminary Library; Germantown Ave.; Philadelphia, PA 2) Pennsylvania German Cultural Heritage Center library -- (484)646-4172 or [email protected] Good luck! Bob Kitchen Helen Graves <[email protected]> wrote: Can anyone shed light on this baptism location? The source for the 1758 baptism of Johan Adam Croesman (Crissman/Cressman) is "Records of Augustus Evangelical Lutheran Church in Trappe, PA" published in PA German Society Proceedings, Vol. 4, p. 226 under the heading of "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan". In 1758, Trappe, PA, was in an area of Philadelphia County that became Montgomery Co. The minister of the the old Lutheran church at Trappe was the Rev. Muhlenberg. The parents of J. Adam Croesman were J. George (the Saddler) Croesman and Anna Margaretha Renn. They lived near Trappe. It would seem likely that their baby would be baptized by their minister at Trappe (that was their church). However, the additional notation that the baptism was under the heading "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan" has me puzzled. I tried googling Musquenickung and got nothing. I found a Raritan in NJ, but I am not sure it is the right Raritan. In 1758, was there a place called Musquenickung in Old Hunterdon County? Was Raritan in Old Hunterdon County? And did the Rev. Muhlenberg of Trappe, PA, travel to these places to conduct baptisms for the babies born to his Trappe members? Helen Graves -- who is researching J. George 'the Saddler' Croesman who lived near Trappe, PA, in 1758 and his wife Anna Margaretha Renn, who was probably from New Jersey. All I know about her is she was the daughter of a Leanardt Renn "of New Jersey". Have no idea where he lived in NJ but now suspect a place called Musquenickung or near Raritan due to this baptism entry. Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Muhlenberg also was a preacher in New Jersey. In Hunterdon and Warren County is the river Musconetcong. I would venture a guess this is what you are looking at. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Graves" <[email protected]> To: "NJ Hunterdon Co." <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:11 PM Subject: [NJHUNTER] 1758 baptisms at Musquenickung and Raritan? > Can anyone shed light on this baptism location? > > The source for the 1758 baptism of Johan Adam Croesman (Crissman/Cressman) > is "Records of Augustus Evangelical Lutheran Church in Trappe, PA" > published in PA German Society Proceedings, Vol. 4, p. 226 under the > heading of "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan". > > In 1758, Trappe, PA, was in an area of Philadelphia County that became > Montgomery Co. The minister of the the old Lutheran church at Trappe was > the Rev. Muhlenberg. The parents of J. Adam Croesman were J. George (the > Saddler) Croesman and Anna Margaretha Renn. They lived near Trappe. > > It would seem likely that their baby would be baptized by their minister > at Trappe (that was their church). However, the additional notation that > the baptism was under the heading "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung > and Raritan" has me puzzled. > > I tried googling Musquenickung and got nothing. I found a Raritan in NJ, > but I am not sure it is the right Raritan. > > In 1758, was there a place called Musquenickung in Old Hunterdon County? > Was Raritan in Old Hunterdon County? And did the Rev. Muhlenberg of > Trappe, PA, travel to these places to conduct baptisms for the babies born > to his Trappe members? > > Helen Graves > -- who is researching J. George 'the Saddler' Croesman who lived near > Trappe, PA, in 1758 and his wife Anna Margaretha Renn, who was probably > from New Jersey. All I know about her is she was the daughter of a > Leanardt Renn "of New Jersey". Have no idea where he lived in NJ but now > suspect a place called Musquenickung or near Raritan due to this baptism > entry. > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Linda Muessig posted to the list: "The Rev. Henry Melchoir Muhlenberg also was a preacher in New Jersey. In Hunterdon and Warren County is the river Musconetcong." Since posting my original question about a 1758 baptism I thought occurred in New Jersey because of the source of the baptism given to me, I have since learned that the Rev. Muhlenberg, who was the minister of the Lutheran church at Trappe, PA, and who lived in New Providence near Trappe, (then in Philadelphia Co., now in Montgomery Co.) PA, did travel across the Delware River into the Hunterdon-Warren Co. areas of the Musconetcong River and South Branch of the Raritan and performed baptisms. If you have been looking for a baptism in this area of NJ, this is a heads up that the Rev. Muhlenberg may have performed the baptism and entered it into his PA church records. The president of the Cressman Family Assn. just sent me this information about a book she has: "I suddenly remembered a little book I had and found it, 'Augustus Evangelical Lutheran Congregation at Trappe, Pennsylvania (Perkomen Valley) by Julius Friedrich Sachse. The book I have is a reprinting of that record by Closson Press of Apollo, PA, in 2003. "It shows some baptisms at the New Jersey location ending with one on Oct 5, 1757. The next baptism is Oct 9, 1757 at New Providence, PA. The listings for New Providence continues for the balance of 1757 and continues into 1758 with 2 baptisms at Neshaniny and one marked Noth-Taufe after the baptism date. "Then in June 1758 the record switches back to New Jersey for a few baptisms and then back to New Providence, PA. " ************************** Hope the above helps someone who has been looking for a 1756-1758 Hunterdon Co., NJ baptism. I do not own the above book, so can't provide look ups. Helen Graves