I was interested in seeing all the NJ baptisms referred to in the below posting. I went to the W. T. Young Library, University of KY to consult the volume. 1st ... The volume is VI, not 4. [Proceedings Bethlehem, Oct, 16 1895. Published by the Society 1896.] 2nd ... In the article, through out the earlier years, listings appear to be chronological but no heading change when the years change. Occasionally baptisms not at the Evangelical Lutheran Augusta Church at Trappe, New Providence Township, Montgomery County. PA or likely, not affiliated, have the location, religious affiliation of the parents and other pastor included. The ANNO headings begin on page 212with ANNO 1753. Anno 1757 The first Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan are on page 224 and 225. They occurred on Sept 28, Oct 4, 5, 6. After two (2) baptisms listed on page 225, the heading changes to New Providence. The baptisms occurred Oct. 9 - Dec. 9, 1757. Anno 1758 Begins on page 225 and continues on page 226 with 3 listed on page 227. The dates are Feb 2, 1758 thru March 21, 1758. The March 12, 1758 baptism given below is on page 226. It is seems clear that the below baptism took place in Montgomery Co.PA and not in NJ. After three (3) Providence baptisms listed on page 227, this heading follows "Baptized June 17, 1758, in New Jersey on the RARITAN, After Previous Instruction". Five (5) adults are listed. Heading changes to "New Providence" Thereafter, ANNO changes but no locality headings are given. FYI: The Surnames in the NJ listings are: Bock, Metzger, Brown, Hof, Horn, Catem. Meisinger, Street, Klotter, Haas, Penter, Schertz, Hendershut, Phillips, Smith Towardton, Bauman. FYI: Pennsylvania German Society Proceedings have combined volumes indexes printed in the last volume indexed. FYI: Familysearch.org has cataloged a set of books by Don Yoder Records included in these volumes are selected Lutheran and Reformed congregations in colonial Pennsylvania, plus one Moravian record." -- Excerpted from the Pennsylvania German Society Proceedings and Addresses and reprinted, with an added introduction and an index." _http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?disp lay=titledetails&titleno=8386&disp=Pennsylvania+German+church+records+of+bi%20 %20&columns=*,0,0_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=8386&disp=Pennsylvania+German+chur ch+records+of+bi%20%20&columns=*,0,0) Phyllis Vannoy Spiker -------------------------------------- Can anyone shed light on this baptism location? The source for the 1758 baptism of Johan Adam Croesman (Crissman/Cressman) is "Records of Augustus Evangelical Lutheran Church in Trappe, PA" published in PA German Society Proceedings, Vol. 4, p. 226 under the heading of "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan". In 1758, Trappe, PA, was in an area of Philadelphia County that became Montgomery Co. The minister of the the old Lutheran church at Trappe was the Rev. Muhlenberg. The parents of J. Adam Croesman were J. George (the Saddler) Croesman and Anna Margaretha Renn. They lived near Trappe. It would seem likely that their baby would be baptized by their minister at Trappe (that was their church). However, the additional notation that the baptism was under the heading "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan" has me puzzled. **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Phyllis, Thank you, thank you, for taking the time to find the baptism in the correct volume of the Pennsylvania German Society Proceedings and for describing how the entries are listed in the volume. You have saved me untold research hours trying to find out why a baptism would take place in New Jersey when the parents were members of the church in New Providence (Trappe) and lived in Montgomery Co., PA. I am going to send this to the president of the Cressman Family Assn. so she can correct their records for this baptism. Helen Graves ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:21 AM Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] 1758 baptisms at Musquenickung and Raritan? > > I was interested in seeing all the NJ baptisms referred to in the below > posting. I went to the W. T. Young Library, University of KY to consult > the > volume. > > 1st ... The volume is VI, not 4. [Proceedings Bethlehem, Oct, 16 1895. > Published by the Society 1896.] > > 2nd ... In the article, through out the earlier years, listings appear to > be > chronological but no heading change when the years change. Occasionally > baptisms not at the Evangelical Lutheran Augusta Church at Trappe, New > Providence > Township, Montgomery County. PA or likely, not affiliated, have the > location, religious affiliation of the parents and other pastor > included. The ANNO > headings begin on page 212with ANNO 1753. > > Anno 1757 > The first Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan are on page > 224 and 225. They occurred on Sept 28, Oct 4, 5, 6. After two (2) > baptisms > listed on page 225, the heading changes to New Providence. The baptisms > occurred > Oct. 9 - Dec. 9, 1757. > > Anno 1758 > Begins on page 225 and continues on page 226 with 3 listed on page 227. > The > dates are Feb 2, 1758 thru March 21, 1758. The March 12, 1758 baptism > given > below is on page 226. It is seems clear that the below baptism took place > in > Montgomery Co.PA and not in NJ. > > After three (3) Providence baptisms listed on page 227, this heading > follows > "Baptized June 17, 1758, in New Jersey on the RARITAN, After Previous > Instruction". Five (5) adults are listed. > > Heading changes to "New Providence" > > Thereafter, ANNO changes but no locality headings are given. > > FYI: The Surnames in the NJ listings are: Bock, Metzger, Brown, Hof, > Horn, > Catem. Meisinger, Street, Klotter, Haas, Penter, Schertz, Hendershut, > Phillips, Smith Towardton, Bauman. > > FYI: Pennsylvania German Society Proceedings have combined volumes indexes > printed in the last volume indexed. > > FYI: Familysearch.org has cataloged a set of books by Don Yoder Records > included in these volumes are selected Lutheran and Reformed > congregations in > colonial Pennsylvania, plus one Moravian record." -- Excerpted from the > Pennsylvania German Society Proceedings and Addresses and reprinted, with > an added > introduction and an index." > _http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?disp > lay=titledetails&titleno=8386&disp=Pennsylvania+German+church+records+of+bi%20 > %20&columns=*,0,0_ > (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=8386&disp=Pennsylvania+German+chur > ch+records+of+bi%20%20&columns=*,0,0) > > Phyllis Vannoy Spiker > -------------------------------------- >