I think Dot answered this one. Truman had three wives and Carrie Pickel was the third (my great grandmother). She had at least two children who died at about eight months old...a year apart. My grandmother, Ina B. Curtis, was born a year later, I think. Then they had two more...One died at age 21, and Luna, the youngest lived to be "old" when she died. I don't have it in front of me. She married Frank Church of Pontiac, MI...as she was from there...and Carrie lived with them in her later years...or they lived with her...anyway, together, and then they moved to Los Angeles and she and her husband died there. The census said that Carrie had seven children, but only three lived. It's way past my bedtime, but so much happened tonight...first progress with Caroline PIckel since I started hunting several years ago. I'm so excited. Good night...or good morning...Helen Chandler In a message dated 11/14/2008 5:12:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: This is not what you wanted, but I search MI often for my N.J. ancestors and their history, here is some of what I found, but nothing about your Carrie/Caroline Pickel of New Jersey, except the Dibean Marriage Index. Marilyn in CA >From MI Dibean Marriage Index: CURTIS,PICKEL,TRUMAN - CURTIS,CAROLINE - PICKEL,MACOMB,--,,11 JAN 1859,--,--,-- >From a Curtiss family site: http://www.online-isp.com/~maggie/macomb/curtiss.htm 3. Truman CURTIS b. February 12, 1822, NY who m Mary Jane WALES February 5, 1846 an then Caroline PICKEL and d. June 10, 1883 Shelby Twp. A DIFFERENT TRUMAN CURTIS? http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=micounty&cc=micounty&idn o=bad1164.0001.001&q1=truman+curtis&frm=frameset&view=image&seq=721 Title: History of Saginaw county, Michigan; together with ... portraits ... and biographies ... History of Michigan ... Author: Leeson, M. A. (Michael A.) Collection: Michigan County Histories and Atlases Truman Curtis, farmer, sec. 26; P. O., Pine Grove; was born in New York, March 4,1804; parents were Jeremiah and Mary Curtis, natives of Massachusetts, and of English descent; father died when subject was small, and he was bound out to work for a Presbyterian; was severely whipped for attending a Methodist meeting, and ran away from his master; he has been a farmer through life, with exception of a few years at cabinet and chair making; was Justice of the Peace three years; has been Highway Commissioner and School Director, and is connected with I. O. O. F.; was married Oct. 20, 1823, to Sophronia Gillett, who was born in Cortland Co., N. Y., in 1805; of 7 children given them, 5 are living-Silva A., wife of Jonathan Smith, of New York; Lauren, James, Sophia and Emmett. His wife died in 1849. He was married again in Ohio to Barbara Ferguson, who was born in Lake Co., O., April 5, 1824. They have 6 children-George, Josephine, Charles, Albert, Ella and John M.; subject and wife are members of the M. E. Church, and well-respected citizens of Birch Run tp. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dotbfl" <> To: "NJHUNTER mail list" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:18 PM Subject: [NJHUNTER] Carrie/Caroline Pickel 1833 >I am trying to find the source for the date of birth of Carrie/Caroline >Pickel on 2 April 1833 in Alexandria, Hunterdon Co, NJ. She was in >Michigan in 1850 and m Truman Curtis 1859. She died 1910. > Need to connect her to parents who I believe are Jonathan Pickel and wife > Hannah Person or Besson. They were married 1821 in Alexandria German > Reformed Church but it was not in operation when Carrie/Caroline was born. > Does anyone know where I could find the records from this church? > Any help greatly appreciated. > Dot > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)