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    1. [NJHUNTER] Rio Grande update
    2. William Hartman
    3. Dennis Sutton just sent this: <Just looked at the Hunterdon County Democrat for August 18th, 1874 and found the following article: New Bridge The Board of Freeholders decided at a meeting held on Tuesday last, to erect a new bridge over what used to be known as "Snake Creek", in Delaware township near "The Duck's Flat." What nice names those "Shunktowners" give their water courses and so forth. What could be more euphonious or high sounding then "Snake Creek" and "Duck's Flat"? Might this the same reference? > Hunterdon County Place Names gives this reference for "Duck Flat", there was no reference to "Snake Creek" <DUCKS FLAT, Delaware Township. In Traditions of Our Ancestors John W. Lequear said "Mr. Emley sold 600 acres to Christopher Cornelius in 1750. Mr. Cornelius sold 400 acres to Daniel Howell in 1750 near the upper boundary line of what is now Delaware Township east of 'Duck's Flat', a part now occupied by Thomas Robinson (1881)." (Snell: 371)> The only creek near "the upper boundary line of Delaware Township" is the Lockatong Creek. The Cornell map of 1851, especially, and the Hagstrom Map of 2000, show that the Lockatong Creek was somewhat serpentine, suggesting a possibility that it may have been called the "Snake Creek" at one time. Although I did bicycle to Frenchtown on Route 29, I cannot recall the topography exactly where the Lockatong enters the Delaware River! Anyone know for sure? Is there a bridge there now? Conclusive evidence is still lacking for location of the "Rio Grande", but we are getting warmer! Keep up the good detective work, Regards, Bill

    07/01/2008 07:42:51
    1. Re: [NJHUNTER] Rio Grande update
    2. Marfy Goodspeed
    3. Dear Bill (and Dennis), Duck's Flat is the area around Rte 519 and Sandford Road and Strimples Mill Road--a large flat area (big surprise). It is just east of the Lockatong Creek and is considered part of the "Great Swamp" or "Croton Plateau." And Bill, to answer your question about a bridge over the Lockatong, I referred to it in my previous email. Actually there are two. The one built in 1876 is on Raven Rock Road (a very magnificent truss bridge). The other one is nearly identical and located on Strimples Mill Road, built in 1897. In your previous email, Bill, you mentioned the area near the Alexauken Creek. That made me think that perhaps this bridge was in a part of Delaware Township that got merged with one of the Amwells, which would explain why it isn't on my list of bridges. But that's a research matter I can't deal with right now. I look forward to any possible future mentions of "Rio Grande" in the H.C. Republican, and by the way, thank you so much for doing this great work. Marfy On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:42 PM, William Hartman <[email protected]> wrote: > Dennis Sutton just sent this: > > <Just looked at the Hunterdon County Democrat for August 18th, 1874 and > found the following article: > > New Bridge > The Board of Freeholders decided at a meeting held on Tuesday last, > to erect a new bridge over what used to be known as > "Snake Creek", in Delaware township near "The Duck's Flat." > > What nice names those "Shunktowners" give their water courses and so forth. > What could be more euphonious or high sounding then "Snake Creek" and > "Duck's Flat"? Might this the same reference? > > > Hunterdon County Place Names gives this reference for "Duck Flat", there > was no reference to "Snake Creek" > > <DUCKS FLAT, Delaware Township. In Traditions of Our Ancestors John W. > Lequear said "Mr. Emley sold 600 acres to Christopher Cornelius in 1750. Mr. > Cornelius sold 400 acres to Daniel Howell in 1750 near the upper boundary > line of what is now Delaware Township east of 'Duck's Flat', a part now > occupied by Thomas Robinson (1881)." (Snell: 371)> > > The only creek near "the upper boundary line of Delaware Township" is the > Lockatong Creek. The Cornell map of 1851, especially, and the Hagstrom Map > of 2000, show that the Lockatong Creek was somewhat serpentine, suggesting a > possibility that it may have been called the "Snake Creek" at one time. > > Although I did bicycle to Frenchtown on Route 29, I cannot recall the > topography exactly where the Lockatong enters the Delaware River! Anyone > know for sure? Is there a bridge there now? > > Conclusive evidence is still lacking for location of the "Rio Grande", but > we are getting warmer! > > Keep up the good detective work, > Regards, > Bill > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enjhunter> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/01/2008 07:52:10
    1. [NJHUNTER] Index to History of Hunterdon County 1881 James P Snell
    2. Nancy Janyszeski
    3. Question?  Is the Index to History of Hunterdon County 1881 James P Snell on line?   I have the hard copy?      Nancy Janyszeski Bucks County  &  Northampton History and Genealogy http://www.BucksCountyHistory.com http://www.pa-roots.com/~northampton/ http://www.nockamixon.us http://www.pagenweb.org/~bucks/ --- On Tue, 7/1/08, Marfy Goodspeed <[email protected]> wrote: From: Marfy Goodspeed <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Rio Grande update To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 1:52 PM Dear Bill (and Dennis), Duck's Flat is the area around Rte 519 and Sandford Road and Strimples Mill Road--a large flat area (big surprise). It is just east of the Lockatong Creek and is considered part of the "Great Swamp" or "Croton Plateau." And Bill, to answer your question about a bridge over the Lockatong, I referred to it in my previous email. Actually there are two. The one built in 1876 is on Raven Rock Road (a very magnificent truss bridge). The other one is nearly identical and located on Strimples Mill Road, built in 1897. In your previous email, Bill, you mentioned the area near the Alexauken Creek. That made me think that perhaps this bridge was in a part of Delaware Township that got merged with one of the Amwells, which would explain why it isn't on my list of bridges. But that's a research matter I can't deal with right now. I look forward to any possible future mentions of "Rio Grande" in the H.C. Republican, and by the way, thank you so much for doing this great work. Marfy On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:42 PM, William Hartman <[email protected]> wrote: > Dennis Sutton just sent this: > > <Just looked at the Hunterdon County Democrat for August 18th, 1874 and > found the following article: > > New Bridge > The Board of Freeholders decided at a meeting held on Tuesday last, > to erect a new bridge over what used to be known as > "Snake Creek", in Delaware township near "The Duck's Flat." > > What nice names those "Shunktowners" give their water courses and so forth. > What could be more euphonious or high sounding then "Snake Creek" and > "Duck's Flat"? Might this the same reference? > > > Hunterdon County Place Names gives this reference for "Duck Flat", there > was no reference to "Snake Creek" > > <DUCKS FLAT, Delaware Township. In Traditions of Our Ancestors John W. > Lequear said "Mr. Emley sold 600 acres to Christopher Cornelius in 1750. Mr. > Cornelius sold 400 acres to Daniel Howell in 1750 near the upper boundary > line of what is now Delaware Township east of 'Duck's Flat', a part now > occupied by Thomas Robinson (1881)." (Snell: 371)> > > The only creek near "the upper boundary line of Delaware Township" is the > Lockatong Creek. The Cornell map of 1851, especially, and the Hagstrom Map > of 2000, show that the Lockatong Creek was somewhat serpentine, suggesting a > possibility that it may have been called the "Snake Creek" at one time. > > Although I did bicycle to Frenchtown on Route 29, I cannot recall the > topography exactly where the Lockatong enters the Delaware River! Anyone > know for sure? Is there a bridge there now? > > Conclusive evidence is still lacking for location of the "Rio Grande", but > we are getting warmer! > > Keep up the good detective work, > Regards, > Bill > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enjhunter> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/03/2008 02:00:43
    1. Re: [NJHUNTER] Index to History of Hunterdon County 1881 James P Snell
    2. Bruce Dow
    3. Yes, HeritageQuest. If you can't find it E mail me direct. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Janyszeski" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: [NJHUNTER] Index to History of Hunterdon County 1881 James P Snell Question? Is the Index to History of Hunterdon County 1881 James P Snell on line? I have the hard copy? Nancy Janyszeski Bucks County & Northampton History and Genealogy http://www.BucksCountyHistory.com http://www.pa-roots.com/~northampton/ http://www.nockamixon.us http://www.pagenweb.org/~bucks/ --- On Tue, 7/1/08, Marfy Goodspeed <[email protected]> wrote: From: Marfy Goodspeed <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Rio Grande update To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 1:52 PM Dear Bill (and Dennis), Duck's Flat is the area around Rte 519 and Sandford Road and Strimples Mill Road--a large flat area (big surprise). It is just east of the Lockatong Creek and is considered part of the "Great Swamp" or "Croton Plateau." And Bill, to answer your question about a bridge over the Lockatong, I referred to it in my previous email. Actually there are two. The one built in 1876 is on Raven Rock Road (a very magnificent truss bridge). The other one is nearly identical and located on Strimples Mill Road, built in 1897. In your previous email, Bill, you mentioned the area near the Alexauken Creek. That made me think that perhaps this bridge was in a part of Delaware Township that got merged with one of the Amwells, which would explain why it isn't on my list of bridges. But that's a research matter I can't deal with right now. I look forward to any possible future mentions of "Rio Grande" in the H.C. Republican, and by the way, thank you so much for doing this great work. Marfy On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:42 PM, William Hartman <[email protected]> wrote: > Dennis Sutton just sent this: > > <Just looked at the Hunterdon County Democrat for August 18th, 1874 and > found the following article: > > New Bridge > The Board of Freeholders decided at a meeting held on Tuesday last, > to erect a new bridge over what used to be known as > "Snake Creek", in Delaware township near "The Duck's Flat." > > What nice names those "Shunktowners" give their water courses and so forth. > What could be more euphonious or high sounding then "Snake Creek" and > "Duck's Flat"? Might this the same reference? > > > Hunterdon County Place Names gives this reference for "Duck Flat", there > was no reference to "Snake Creek" > > <DUCKS FLAT, Delaware Township. In Traditions of Our Ancestors John W. > Lequear said "Mr. Emley sold 600 acres to Christopher Cornelius in 1750. Mr. > Cornelius sold 400 acres to Daniel Howell in 1750 near the upper boundary > line of what is now Delaware Township east of 'Duck's Flat', a part now > occupied by Thomas Robinson (1881)." (Snell: 371)> > > The only creek near "the upper boundary line of Delaware Township" is the > Lockatong Creek. The Cornell map of 1851, especially, and the Hagstrom Map > of 2000, show that the Lockatong Creek was somewhat serpentine, suggesting a > possibility that it may have been called the "Snake Creek" at one time. > > Although I did bicycle to Frenchtown on Route 29, I cannot recall the > topography exactly where the Lockatong enters the Delaware River! Anyone > know for sure? Is there a bridge there now? > > Conclusive evidence is still lacking for location of the "Rio Grande", but > we are getting warmer! > > Keep up the good detective work, > Regards, > Bill > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enjhunter> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/03/2008 06:25:27