Hi, Unless you hear the actual pronunciation of the Nederland "G" you will not be able to figure it out. "JE" is pronounced like the English ie or y. When you add in an accent to the mix, it is very easy to get Charity out of Geertje and its variants. Geertje was not always a nickname or roepnaam. It and its variants were often the female person's first name given at her baptism. Bill Boscia -----Original Message----- From: kaysfo@aol.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:18 PM To: njhunter@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from 2009 I stand corrected---I think! But, I will apologize in advance and add that,while I have great respect for the researchers on the Hunterdon list, I have a great many reservations about assuming that some of these name changes were because of pronounciation difficulties. In fact, in my own research, I look askance at any name change for any reason unless I can find a lot of documentation to support it. I have been trying to say the names Charity and Geertje using a variety of accents, and it is difficult for me to believe that anyone would mistake the two, even in the 18th century. And I think I will withold ANY judgement until I find some irrefutable source or sources for this information . Kay -----Original Message----- From: susan.avery <susan.avery@juno.com> To: njhunter <njhunter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 23, 2012 11:32 am Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from 2009 Ron - if you are on the NJHUNTER@rootsweb.com emailing list you will utomatically get all emails directed to the site. They won't always ave anything to do with the families that you are researching but ometimes you do - when that happens you can happily join in the iscussion. When they don't pertain to you, you just delete them. Long time member, Susan Avery On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:16:49 -0400 "Ron Eichman" <ronfe@verizon.net> rites: Here is another misdirected e-mail. This does not belong to me. Ron Eichman -----Original Message----- From: njhunter-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njhunter-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Shafer Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 8:55 AM To: njhunter@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from 2009 Sorry, I'm jumping in midstream. All correspondents are probably aware that Charity and Gertie (Gertje) were readily interchangeable as given names, but let me mention that anyway. Stephen Shafer Quoting christietrapp@aol.com: > > Rita: > > Thanks so much for finding the marriage entry for Samuel Wheaton. > It is very obvious from the entry that Charity was not his wife, but > a Gertie. The date of the marriage and the name doesn't match > anything I have in my particular database; however, I will have to > check the Wyckoff genealogy to see if any of the volumes (editions) > have recorded these names. > > I'm surprised that the LDS has digitized these records. It appears > that this is a compilation from original sources such as returns > which were entered into a docket book all at the same time. I say > this because the handwriting in the record is all the same from the > top of the page to the bottom and the dates are a spread over a > number of years. Therefore, had the entries been made at the time, > the clerk's handwriting would have been changing. I'm not saying > the marriages didn't take place, it just appears to me that this > record is a secondary source rather than a primary source. > > Thanks again for your help. At least it clears out my 2009 email > that I've sat on all these years. I finally got around to taking a > look at some of my old saved mail because I was getting bored with > my current stuff!! Ha! Ha! > > Christie > > > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:13:29 -0400 > rom: Rita Chesterton <rchesterton1@verizon.net> > ubject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from > 2009 > Here ya go: > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VW51-4XJ > amuel Wheaton marries Gertie Wyckoff, 20 Jan 1796, Somerset, NJ > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Stephen Quentin Shafer Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. 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I stand corrected---I think! But, I will apologize in advance and add that,while I have great respect for the researchers on the Hunterdon list, I have a great many reservations about assuming that some of these name changes were because of pronounciation difficulties. In fact, in my own research, I look askance at any name change for any reason unless I can find a lot of documentation to support it. I have been trying to say the names Charity and Geertje using a variety of accents, and it is difficult for me to believe that anyone would mistake the two, even in the 18th century. And I think I will withold ANY judgement until I find some irrefutable source or sources for this information . Kay -----Original Message----- From: susan.avery <susan.avery@juno.com> To: njhunter <njhunter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 23, 2012 11:32 am Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from 2009 Ron - if you are on the NJHUNTER@rootsweb.com emailing list you will utomatically get all emails directed to the site. They won't always ave anything to do with the families that you are researching but ometimes you do - when that happens you can happily join in the iscussion. When they don't pertain to you, you just delete them. Long time member, Susan Avery On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:16:49 -0400 "Ron Eichman" <ronfe@verizon.net> rites: Here is another misdirected e-mail. This does not belong to me. Ron Eichman -----Original Message----- From: njhunter-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njhunter-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Shafer Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 8:55 AM To: njhunter@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from 2009 Sorry, I'm jumping in midstream. All correspondents are probably aware that Charity and Gertie (Gertje) were readily interchangeable as given names, but let me mention that anyway. Stephen Shafer Quoting christietrapp@aol.com: > > Rita: > > Thanks so much for finding the marriage entry for Samuel Wheaton. > It is very obvious from the entry that Charity was not his wife, but > a Gertie. The date of the marriage and the name doesn't match > anything I have in my particular database; however, I will have to > check the Wyckoff genealogy to see if any of the volumes (editions) > have recorded these names. > > I'm surprised that the LDS has digitized these records. It appears > that this is a compilation from original sources such as returns > which were entered into a docket book all at the same time. I say > this because the handwriting in the record is all the same from the > top of the page to the bottom and the dates are a spread over a > number of years. Therefore, had the entries been made at the time, > the clerk's handwriting would have been changing. I'm not saying > the marriages didn't take place, it just appears to me that this > record is a secondary source rather than a primary source. > > Thanks again for your help. At least it clears out my 2009 email > that I've sat on all these years. I finally got around to taking a > look at some of my old saved mail because I was getting bored with > my current stuff!! Ha! Ha! > > Christie > > > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:13:29 -0400 > rom: Rita Chesterton <rchesterton1@verizon.net> > ubject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from > 2009 > Here ya go: > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VW51-4XJ > amuel Wheaton marries Gertie Wyckoff, 20 Jan 1796, Somerset, NJ > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Stephen Quentin Shafer Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19520) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19520) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message isit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Ron - if you are on the NJHUNTER@rootsweb.com emailing list you will automatically get all emails directed to the site. They won't always have anything to do with the families that you are researching but sometimes you do - when that happens you can happily join in the discussion. When they don't pertain to you, you just delete them. Long time member, Susan Avery On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:16:49 -0400 "Ron Eichman" <ronfe@verizon.net> writes: > Here is another misdirected e-mail. This does not belong to me. > > Ron Eichman > > -----Original Message----- > From: njhunter-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:njhunter-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Stephen Shafer > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 8:55 AM > To: njhunter@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from > 2009 > > Sorry, I'm jumping in midstream. All correspondents are probably > aware that > Charity and Gertie (Gertje) were readily interchangeable as given > names, but > let me mention that anyway. > Stephen Shafer > > Quoting christietrapp@aol.com: > > > > > Rita: > > > > Thanks so much for finding the marriage entry for Samuel Wheaton. > > > It is very obvious from the entry that Charity was not his wife, > but > > a Gertie. The date of the marriage and the name doesn't match > > > anything I have in my particular database; however, I will have to > > > check the Wyckoff genealogy to see if any of the volumes > (editions) > > have recorded these names. > > > > I'm surprised that the LDS has digitized these records. It > appears > > that this is a compilation from original sources such as returns > > > which were entered into a docket book all at the same time. I say > > > this because the handwriting in the record is all the same from > the > > top of the page to the bottom and the dates are a spread over a > > > number of years. Therefore, had the entries been made at the > time, > > the clerk's handwriting would have been changing. I'm not saying > > > the marriages didn't take place, it just appears to me that this > > > record is a secondary source rather than a primary source. > > > > Thanks again for your help. At least it clears out my 2009 email > > > that I've sat on all these years. I finally got around to taking > a > > look at some of my old saved mail because I was getting bored with > > > my current stuff!! Ha! Ha! > > > > Christie > > > > > > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:13:29 -0400 > > rom: Rita Chesterton <rchesterton1@verizon.net> > > ubject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query > from > > 2009 > > Here ya go: > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VW51-4XJ > > amuel Wheaton marries Gertie Wyckoff, 20 Jan 1796, Somerset, NJ > > > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > Stephen Quentin Shafer > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19520) > http://www.pctools.com/ ======= > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19520) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Christie.... "Charity" was used as a nickname at that time. I believe the official name was "Gertruidje" or something like like. "Charity" was interchanged with "Giertie".... as a nickname. She's probably the person you're looking for. You can do some free exploring at www.familysearch.org Be sure to search different ways.... with first name/without first name.... with date/without date... as well as by filling in every box if you have the information. I sometimes get more 'hits' by leaving some boxes blank. Good luck. The Wyckoff's were a huge family around Somerset, NJ. They were intermingled with "Vliet" .... my ancestors on one branch. R. > > Rita: > > Thanks so much for finding the marriage entry for Samuel Wheaton. It is very obvious from the entry that Charity was not his wife, but a Gertie. The date of the marriage and the name doesn't match anything I have in my particular database; however, I will have to check the Wyckoff genealogy to see if any of the volumes (editions) have recorded these names. > > I'm surprised that the LDS has digitized these records. It appears that this is a compilation from original sources such as returns which were entered into a docket book all at the same time. I say this because the handwriting in the record is all the same from the top of the page to the bottom and the dates are a spread over a number of years. Therefore, had the entries been made at the time, the clerk's handwriting would have been changing. I'm not saying the marriages didn't take place, it just appears to me that this record is a secondary source rather than a primary source. > > Thanks again for your help. At least it clears out my 2009 email that I've sat on all these years. I finally got around to taking a look at some of my old saved mail because I was getting bored with my current stuff!! Ha! Ha! > > Christie > > > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:13:29 -0400 > rom: Rita Chesterton <rchesterton1@verizon.net> > ubject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from > 2009 > Here ya go: > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VW51-4XJ > amuel Wheaton marries Gertie Wyckoff, 20 Jan 1796, Somerset, NJ > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kay, I have no quibble with your skepticism. It was my first reaction years ago too in a similiar situation... and even today I would never take it as automatic the way I would turning Marritje into Mary. Because I haven't done it in a long time, I went looking for examples/documentation for you. Here is some of what I found and note that it doesn't always agree. Have fun. Renee L. Dauven Other examples: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Dutch-Colonies/2000-05/0957563648 http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Dutch-Colonies/1999-01/0916061208 Both from the research of Dorothy Koenig http://cybrary.uwinnipeg.ca/people/dobson/genealogy/ff/hegeman-hendrick.cfm From the research of John B. Dobson Equivalency charts: http://www.ristenbatt.com/genealogy/dutch_na.htm Note that Dona Ristenbatt makes Charity the equivalent of Geesje, not Geertje http://www.hopefarm.com/dutchnam.htm http://books.google.com/books?id=9_07rg-M8fIC&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8&dq=Geertje+Charity+names+equivalency&source=bl&ots=jV2uR48TxN&sig=rbSn20RR4E0F9y86cC6AUGIOLuM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5aRsT6m2OqiMigLNuO3-BA&ved=0CF8Q6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Geertje%20Charity%20names%20equivalency&f=false Note that both these these last two pages claim to be using the 1904 publication OLDE ULSTER but there are some differences. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090926054437AAcJlBe This one (the second post or entry) is similiar to Ristenbatt http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/surnames.middaugh/84/mb.ashx?pnt=1 On this page, be sure to check out the last name listed. On 3/23/2012 9:18 AM, kaysfo@aol.com wrote: > > I stand corrected---I think! But, I will apologize in advance and add that,while I have great respect for the researchers on the Hunterdon list, I have a great many reservations about assuming that some of these name changes were because of pronounciation difficulties. In fact, in my own research, I look askance at any name change for any reason unless I can find a lot of documentation to support it. > > I have been trying to say the names Charity and Geertje using a variety of accents, and it is difficult for me to believe that anyone would mistake the two, even in the 18th century. And I think I will withold ANY judgement until I find some irrefutable source or sources for this information . > > Kay

No, Mr. Shafer. I am one of the correspondents who was not aware of this. And could you quote a factual source for your assumption. The names have very different meanings even. Gertje has the meaning "strong with a spear" and Charity means love or dearly beloved. I am really curious about this. Kay Larsen -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Shafer <sqs1@columbia.edu> To: njhunter <njhunter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 23, 2012 8:57 am Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from 2009 Sorry, I'm jumping in midstream. All correspondents are probably aware hat Charity and Gertie (Gertje) were readily interchangeable as given ames, but let me mention that anyway. tephen Shafer Quoting christietrapp@aol.com: > Rita: Thanks so much for finding the marriage entry for Samuel Wheaton. It is very obvious from the entry that Charity was not his wife, but a Gertie. The date of the marriage and the name doesn't match anything I have in my particular database; however, I will have to check the Wyckoff genealogy to see if any of the volumes (editions) have recorded these names. I'm surprised that the LDS has digitized these records. It appears that this is a compilation from original sources such as returns which were entered into a docket book all at the same time. I say this because the handwriting in the record is all the same from the top of the page to the bottom and the dates are a spread over a number of years. Therefore, had the entries been made at the time, the clerk's handwriting would have been changing. I'm not saying the marriages didn't take place, it just appears to me that this record is a secondary source rather than a primary source. Thanks again for your help. At least it clears out my 2009 email that I've sat on all these years. I finally got around to taking a look at some of my old saved mail because I was getting bored with my current stuff!! Ha! Ha! Christie Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:13:29 -0400 rom: Rita Chesterton <rchesterton1@verizon.net> ubject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from 2009 Here ya go: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VW51-4XJ amuel Wheaton marries Gertie Wyckoff, 20 Jan 1796, Somerset, NJ Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Stephen Quentin Shafer Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Here is another misdirected e-mail. This does not belong to me. Ron Eichman -----Original Message----- From: njhunter-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njhunter-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Shafer Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 8:55 AM To: njhunter@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from 2009 Sorry, I'm jumping in midstream. All correspondents are probably aware that Charity and Gertie (Gertje) were readily interchangeable as given names, but let me mention that anyway. Stephen Shafer Quoting christietrapp@aol.com: > > Rita: > > Thanks so much for finding the marriage entry for Samuel Wheaton. > It is very obvious from the entry that Charity was not his wife, but > a Gertie. The date of the marriage and the name doesn't match > anything I have in my particular database; however, I will have to > check the Wyckoff genealogy to see if any of the volumes (editions) > have recorded these names. > > I'm surprised that the LDS has digitized these records. It appears > that this is a compilation from original sources such as returns > which were entered into a docket book all at the same time. I say > this because the handwriting in the record is all the same from the > top of the page to the bottom and the dates are a spread over a > number of years. Therefore, had the entries been made at the time, > the clerk's handwriting would have been changing. I'm not saying > the marriages didn't take place, it just appears to me that this > record is a secondary source rather than a primary source. > > Thanks again for your help. At least it clears out my 2009 email > that I've sat on all these years. I finally got around to taking a > look at some of my old saved mail because I was getting bored with > my current stuff!! Ha! Ha! > > Christie > > > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:13:29 -0400 > rom: Rita Chesterton <rchesterton1@verizon.net> > ubject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from > 2009 > Here ya go: > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VW51-4XJ > amuel Wheaton marries Gertie Wyckoff, 20 Jan 1796, Somerset, NJ > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Stephen Quentin Shafer Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19520) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19520) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

I do not know why you are forwarding this to me..my e-mail address is not even in the sent field. Please investigate and stop this from coming to me. Thank you, Ron Eichman -----Original Message----- From: njhunter-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njhunter-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of christietrapp@aol.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 3:23 AM To: njhunter@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from 2009 Rita: Thanks so much for finding the marriage entry for Samuel Wheaton. It is very obvious from the entry that Charity was not his wife, but a Gertie. The date of the marriage and the name doesn't match anything I have in my particular database; however, I will have to check the Wyckoff genealogy to see if any of the volumes (editions) have recorded these names. I'm surprised that the LDS has digitized these records. It appears that this is a compilation from original sources such as returns which were entered into a docket book all at the same time. I say this because the handwriting in the record is all the same from the top of the page to the bottom and the dates are a spread over a number of years. Therefore, had the entries been made at the time, the clerk's handwriting would have been changing. I'm not saying the marriages didn't take place, it just appears to me that this record is a secondary source rather than a primary source. Thanks again for your help. At least it clears out my 2009 email that I've sat on all these years. I finally got around to taking a look at some of my old saved mail because I was getting bored with my current stuff!! Ha! Ha! Christie Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:13:29 -0400 rom: Rita Chesterton <rchesterton1@verizon.net> ubject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from 2009 Here ya go: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VW51-4XJ amuel Wheaton marries Gertie Wyckoff, 20 Jan 1796, Somerset, NJ Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19520) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19520) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

Sorry, I'm jumping in midstream. All correspondents are probably aware that Charity and Gertie (Gertje) were readily interchangeable as given names, but let me mention that anyway. Stephen Shafer Quoting christietrapp@aol.com: > > Rita: > > Thanks so much for finding the marriage entry for Samuel Wheaton. > It is very obvious from the entry that Charity was not his wife, but > a Gertie. The date of the marriage and the name doesn't match > anything I have in my particular database; however, I will have to > check the Wyckoff genealogy to see if any of the volumes (editions) > have recorded these names. > > I'm surprised that the LDS has digitized these records. It appears > that this is a compilation from original sources such as returns > which were entered into a docket book all at the same time. I say > this because the handwriting in the record is all the same from the > top of the page to the bottom and the dates are a spread over a > number of years. Therefore, had the entries been made at the time, > the clerk's handwriting would have been changing. I'm not saying > the marriages didn't take place, it just appears to me that this > record is a secondary source rather than a primary source. > > Thanks again for your help. At least it clears out my 2009 email > that I've sat on all these years. I finally got around to taking a > look at some of my old saved mail because I was getting bored with > my current stuff!! Ha! Ha! > > Christie > > > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:13:29 -0400 > rom: Rita Chesterton <rchesterton1@verizon.net> > ubject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from > 2009 > Here ya go: > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VW51-4XJ > amuel Wheaton marries Gertie Wyckoff, 20 Jan 1796, Somerset, NJ > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Stephen Quentin Shafer

Hi Kay, I'm sorry that I don't have the sources to give you for the Charity/Geertje equivalency. There are numerous charts which give such listings although this particular one may not listed. That is because it isn't based in etymology, as you just demonstrated, and many of the list are also etymology based. Instead, it is based in the unique situation of the cultural transformation of the Dutch speaking settlers into English speaking early American settlers. To the English speaking clerks and to some of the Dutch, "Charity" was the English name that sounded the most like the Dutch name "Geertje". Here the equivalency has nothing to do with the linguistic roots of the name. Renee L. Dauven On 3/23/2012 6:28 AM, kaysfo@aol.com wrote: > > No, Mr. Shafer. I am one of the correspondents who was not aware of this. And could you quote a factual source for your assumption. The names have very different meanings even. Gertje has the meaning "strong with a spear" and Charity means love or dearly beloved. I am really curious about this. > > Kay Larsen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Shafer<sqs1@columbia.edu> > To: njhunter<njhunter@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Mar 23, 2012 8:57 am > Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from 2009 > > > Sorry, I'm jumping in midstream. All correspondents are probably aware > hat Charity and Gertie (Gertje) were readily interchangeable as given > ames, but let me mention that anyway. > tephen Shafer > Quoting christietrapp@aol.com: >> > Rita: > > Thanks so much for finding the marriage entry for Samuel Wheaton. > It is very obvious from the entry that Charity was not his wife, but > a Gertie. The date of the marriage and the name doesn't match > anything I have in my particular database; however, I will have to > check the Wyckoff genealogy to see if any of the volumes (editions) > have recorded these names. > > I'm surprised that the LDS has digitized these records. It appears > that this is a compilation from original sources such as returns > which were entered into a docket book all at the same time. I say > this because the handwriting in the record is all the same from the > top of the page to the bottom and the dates are a spread over a > number of years. Therefore, had the entries been made at the time, > the clerk's handwriting would have been changing. I'm not saying > the marriages didn't take place, it just appears to me that this > record is a secondary source rather than a primary source. > > Thanks again for your help. At least it clears out my 2009 email > that I've sat on all these years. I finally got around to taking a > look at some of my old saved mail because I was getting bored with > my current stuff!! Ha! Ha! > > Christie > > > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:13:29 -0400 > rom: Rita Chesterton<rchesterton1@verizon.net> > ubject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from > 2009 > Here ya go: > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VW51-4XJ > amuel Wheaton marries Gertie Wyckoff, 20 Jan 1796, Somerset, NJ > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Stephen Quentin Shafer > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Rita: Thanks so much for finding the marriage entry for Samuel Wheaton. It is very obvious from the entry that Charity was not his wife, but a Gertie. The date of the marriage and the name doesn't match anything I have in my particular database; however, I will have to check the Wyckoff genealogy to see if any of the volumes (editions) have recorded these names. I'm surprised that the LDS has digitized these records. It appears that this is a compilation from original sources such as returns which were entered into a docket book all at the same time. I say this because the handwriting in the record is all the same from the top of the page to the bottom and the dates are a spread over a number of years. Therefore, had the entries been made at the time, the clerk's handwriting would have been changing. I'm not saying the marriages didn't take place, it just appears to me that this record is a secondary source rather than a primary source. Thanks again for your help. At least it clears out my 2009 email that I've sat on all these years. I finally got around to taking a look at some of my old saved mail because I was getting bored with my current stuff!! Ha! Ha! Christie Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:13:29 -0400 rom: Rita Chesterton <rchesterton1@verizon.net> ubject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from 2009 Here ya go: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VW51-4XJ amuel Wheaton marries Gertie Wyckoff, 20 Jan 1796, Somerset, NJ

Here ya go: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VW51-4XJ Samuel Wheaton marries Gertie Wyckoff, 20 Jan 1796, Somerset, NJ On Mar 21, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Ron Eichman wrote: > > You asked a question way back in 2009 about a Charity Wyckoff who married a > Samuel Wheaton. Did you ever get your answer? > > I have two Charity Wyckoff's with no spouses, but since your email didn't > indicate a place of birth for Charity or a date of birth, I don't know which > Charity that is in my records might match so that I can add Wheaton as a > spouse. > > Look forward to hearing from you. > > Christie Trapp > > > > > > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:34:17 -0500 > rom: <bking48@stny.rr.com> > ubject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Wyckoff, Schenks, Titus and Holcomb ello, I am > looking for info on Charity WycKoff m. to Samuel Wheaton in unterdon Ct. > Especially the parantage of Samuel Wheaton. They were married 1796 n NJ. > Anyone have anything to share? > Bruce King > > > > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19510) > http://www.pctools.com/ ======= > > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19510) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think you have the wrong person here. Ron -----Original Message----- From: njhunter-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njhunter-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of christietrapp@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:31 PM To: njhunter@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJHUNTER] Charity Wyckoff - Samuel Wheaton query from 2009 You asked a question way back in 2009 about a Charity Wyckoff who married a Samuel Wheaton. Did you ever get your answer? I have two Charity Wyckoff's with no spouses, but since your email didn't indicate a place of birth for Charity or a date of birth, I don't know which Charity that is in my records might match so that I can add Wheaton as a spouse. Look forward to hearing from you. Christie Trapp Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:34:17 -0500 rom: <bking48@stny.rr.com> ubject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Wyckoff, Schenks, Titus and Holcomb ello, I am looking for info on Charity WycKoff m. to Samuel Wheaton in unterdon Ct. Especially the parantage of Samuel Wheaton. They were married 1796 n NJ. Anyone have anything to share? Bruce King Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19510) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.898, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19510) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

You asked a question way back in 2009 about a Charity Wyckoff who married a Samuel Wheaton. Did you ever get your answer? I have two Charity Wyckoff's with no spouses, but since your email didn't indicate a place of birth for Charity or a date of birth, I don't know which Charity that is in my records might match so that I can add Wheaton as a spouse. Look forward to hearing from you. Christie Trapp Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:34:17 -0500 rom: <bking48@stny.rr.com> ubject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Wyckoff, Schenks, Titus and Holcomb ello, I am looking for info on Charity WycKoff m. to Samuel Wheaton in unterdon Ct. Especially the parantage of Samuel Wheaton. They were married 1796 n NJ. Anyone have anything to share? Bruce King

Checking into my husband's ancestors. Major Thomas Hamlen 1727-1810 Thomas Hamlen 1707-? John Hamblen born MA 1682/1683 Anyone else researching the same line? Lindsey

Good grief--now I've got 8 of them. *Marfy * On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM, <kaysfo@aol.com> wrote: > By dint of hunting for Ephaim and Cornelia, I have discovered the > gravesite of another CORNELIUS MYERS (dob unknown---dod 1899) in Mt. Hope > Cemetery, Lambertville. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marfy Goodspeed <marfyg@gmail.com> > To: njhunter <njhunter@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Feb 29, 2012 12:43 pm > Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Cornelius Myers > > > Hi Kay, > he Minutes of the Kingwood Baptist Church, vol. 2, mention Ephraim Myers > s moderator of meetings held at Locktown in 1880 and 1881. Prior to that > ornelius Myers (presumably his father) held that postion. Doesn't tell you > nything about Cornelia of course. But every little bit . . . > arfy > Marfy Goodspeed **marfyg@gmail.com** > oodspeed Histories http://goodspeedhistories.com/ > > > n Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:15 PM, <kaysfo@aol.com> wrote: > > > Thanks for the info on the Myers family. I am interested in Ephraim > Meyers (born Dec. 1837) because it appears that he married one Cornelia > H. > Fox, daughter of Absalom Fox who was the son of George Fox and Elizabeth > Sherman. It seems that Absalom traveled quite a bit, first moving to New > York State, then moving to Ohio. After he buried his wife Ararat --?-- in > Ohio, it seems that he moved back to Hunterdon County sometime between the > census of 1850 AND 1860, accompanied by his two daughters Catherine and > Cornelia (also born 1837. Cornelia was born in Ohio, though the 1900 > census states New Jersey. This disagrees with the censuses of 1850, 1860 > and 1880, which all claim Ohio. > > Cornelia is supposed to have married Ephraim in 1860 (after the census). > According to the 1900 census , she bore five children of which four were > still living. > > Kay Larsen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marfy Goodspeed <marfyg@gmail.com> > To: njhunter <njhunter@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 5:53 pm > Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Cornelius Myers > > > Hey Helen, > hanks for sending out all that info. It certainly helped me, even tho it > asn't my query. > 've got information on Elijah Myers that seems to conflict with what you > rovided for the father of Cornelius. I'm beginning to think there was a > econd Elijah living in Delaware Twp.. married Lucretia Huffman in 1840 and > atharine Crips in 1850. He had Delaware Twp. land transactions in the > 850s. Just thought I'd share that. > arfy > Marfy Goodspeed **marfyg@gmail.com** > oodspeed Histories http://goodspeedhistories.com/ > > > n Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Helen <HelenM57@comcast.net> wrote: > > The only Cornelius Myers I can help with is the one born in 1806. > According > to his death certificate, he died on the 5th of April, 1891 at the age of > 85 > years, 0 months, 17 days, which computes to a birth date of 19 Mar 1806. > Birthplace was listed as Warren County, NJ and occupation was cooper. The > DC > gives his parents as Elijah Myers and Sarah Dilley. If you decide to look > for Elijah and Sarah, you will need to search in Sussex County because > Warren wasn't created until 1825. > > This Cornelius was married to Charity Williamson, the daughter of Peter > Williamson and Jane Britton. She died 3 Oct 1891 and both of their DC's > list > them as buried in Locktown. I have not been able to locate their > gravestones > in either of the two cemeteries there. > > Through the years, Cornelius and Charity seemed to have bounced between > Kingwood and Delaware Twps. and both have either Sergeantsville or > Delaware > Twp. listed as their residence on their DC's. > > Cornelius and Charity were married 8 Aug 1835, in Hunterdon County. I only > have two children listed. > 1. Sarah Jane Myers, b. about 1836 > 2. Ephraim R. Myers, b. Dec 1837 > > Hope this helps a bit. > > Helen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eva Myer" <e.walker.myer@gmail.com> > To: <NJHUNTER@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:19 PM > Subject: [NJHUNTER] Cornelius Myers > > > > Today I am focused on a *Cornelius Myers* b. @ 1745 who is about 85 > years > > old in the 1830 Hunterdon Co. Census. Probably the same person who is > > listed in New Jersey Pensioners 1835 as being placed on the pension roll > > in > > 1833. There is another Cornelius Myers in NJ b. 1790 (don't know if it > is > > Hunterdon Co.) listed in index of War of 1812 enlistees. Yet another > > Cornelius Myers is listed in the 1880 Hunterdon Co. census as age 74 (b. > > abt. 1806). I hope someone can sort these out for me. I am particularly > > interested in the first one b. 1745 to see if he has any connection to > > my *Peter > > Myer* b. about 1750 who grew up and married Anna Peters in Hunterdon Co. > > Peter and Anna Myer moved to Allegany Co. MD in 1790. > > Since at least one of the Cornelius Myers was in Amwell Twp. were > Peter > > Myer lived, I feel that it is possible there is a family connction. > Maybe > > there is a Cornelius Myers expert in our forum. Hope so. > > Thanks. > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > isit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > isit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

By dint of hunting for Ephaim and Cornelia, I have discovered the gravesite of another CORNELIUS MYERS (dob unknown---dod 1899) in Mt. Hope Cemetery, Lambertville. -----Original Message----- From: Marfy Goodspeed <marfyg@gmail.com> To: njhunter <njhunter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Feb 29, 2012 12:43 pm Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Cornelius Myers Hi Kay, he Minutes of the Kingwood Baptist Church, vol. 2, mention Ephraim Myers s moderator of meetings held at Locktown in 1880 and 1881. Prior to that ornelius Myers (presumably his father) held that postion. Doesn't tell you nything about Cornelia of course. But every little bit . . . arfy Marfy Goodspeed **marfyg@gmail.com** oodspeed Histories http://goodspeedhistories.com/ n Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:15 PM, <kaysfo@aol.com> wrote: > Thanks for the info on the Myers family. I am interested in Ephraim Meyers (born Dec. 1837) because it appears that he married one Cornelia H. Fox, daughter of Absalom Fox who was the son of George Fox and Elizabeth Sherman. It seems that Absalom traveled quite a bit, first moving to New York State, then moving to Ohio. After he buried his wife Ararat --?-- in Ohio, it seems that he moved back to Hunterdon County sometime between the census of 1850 AND 1860, accompanied by his two daughters Catherine and Cornelia (also born 1837. Cornelia was born in Ohio, though the 1900 census states New Jersey. This disagrees with the censuses of 1850, 1860 and 1880, which all claim Ohio. Cornelia is supposed to have married Ephraim in 1860 (after the census). According to the 1900 census , she bore five children of which four were still living. Kay Larsen -----Original Message----- From: Marfy Goodspeed <marfyg@gmail.com> To: njhunter <njhunter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 5:53 pm Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Cornelius Myers Hey Helen, hanks for sending out all that info. It certainly helped me, even tho it asn't my query. 've got information on Elijah Myers that seems to conflict with what you rovided for the father of Cornelius. I'm beginning to think there was a econd Elijah living in Delaware Twp.. married Lucretia Huffman in 1840 and atharine Crips in 1850. He had Delaware Twp. land transactions in the 850s. Just thought I'd share that. arfy Marfy Goodspeed **marfyg@gmail.com** oodspeed Histories http://goodspeedhistories.com/ n Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Helen <HelenM57@comcast.net> wrote: > The only Cornelius Myers I can help with is the one born in 1806. According to his death certificate, he died on the 5th of April, 1891 at the age of 85 years, 0 months, 17 days, which computes to a birth date of 19 Mar 1806. Birthplace was listed as Warren County, NJ and occupation was cooper. The DC gives his parents as Elijah Myers and Sarah Dilley. If you decide to look for Elijah and Sarah, you will need to search in Sussex County because Warren wasn't created until 1825. This Cornelius was married to Charity Williamson, the daughter of Peter Williamson and Jane Britton. She died 3 Oct 1891 and both of their DC's list them as buried in Locktown. I have not been able to locate their gravestones in either of the two cemeteries there. Through the years, Cornelius and Charity seemed to have bounced between Kingwood and Delaware Twps. and both have either Sergeantsville or Delaware Twp. listed as their residence on their DC's. Cornelius and Charity were married 8 Aug 1835, in Hunterdon County. I only have two children listed. 1. Sarah Jane Myers, b. about 1836 2. Ephraim R. Myers, b. Dec 1837 Hope this helps a bit. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eva Myer" <e.walker.myer@gmail.com> To: <NJHUNTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:19 PM Subject: [NJHUNTER] Cornelius Myers > Today I am focused on a *Cornelius Myers* b. @ 1745 who is about 85 years > old in the 1830 Hunterdon Co. Census. Probably the same person who is > listed in New Jersey Pensioners 1835 as being placed on the pension roll > in > 1833. There is another Cornelius Myers in NJ b. 1790 (don't know if it is > Hunterdon Co.) listed in index of War of 1812 enlistees. Yet another > Cornelius Myers is listed in the 1880 Hunterdon Co. census as age 74 (b. > abt. 1806). I hope someone can sort these out for me. I am particularly > interested in the first one b. 1745 to see if he has any connection to > my *Peter > Myer* b. about 1750 who grew up and married Anna Peters in Hunterdon Co. > Peter and Anna Myer moved to Allegany Co. MD in 1790. > Since at least one of the Cornelius Myers was in Amwell Twp. were Peter > Myer lived, I feel that it is possible there is a family connction. Maybe > there is a Cornelius Myers expert in our forum. Hope so. > Thanks. > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message isit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message isit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Thanks Marfy! You are so right---every little bit..... -----Original Message----- From: Marfy Goodspeed <marfyg@gmail.com> To: njhunter <njhunter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Feb 29, 2012 12:43 pm Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Cornelius Myers Hi Kay, he Minutes of the Kingwood Baptist Church, vol. 2, mention Ephraim Myers s moderator of meetings held at Locktown in 1880 and 1881. Prior to that ornelius Myers (presumably his father) held that postion. Doesn't tell you nything about Cornelia of course. But every little bit . . . arfy Marfy Goodspeed **marfyg@gmail.com** oodspeed Histories http://goodspeedhistories.com/ n Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:15 PM, <kaysfo@aol.com> wrote: > Thanks for the info on the Myers family. I am interested in Ephraim Meyers (born Dec. 1837) because it appears that he married one Cornelia H. Fox, daughter of Absalom Fox who was the son of George Fox and Elizabeth Sherman. It seems that Absalom traveled quite a bit, first moving to New York State, then moving to Ohio. After he buried his wife Ararat --?-- in Ohio, it seems that he moved back to Hunterdon County sometime between the census of 1850 AND 1860, accompanied by his two daughters Catherine and Cornelia (also born 1837. Cornelia was born in Ohio, though the 1900 census states New Jersey. This disagrees with the censuses of 1850, 1860 and 1880, which all claim Ohio. Cornelia is supposed to have married Ephraim in 1860 (after the census). According to the 1900 census , she bore five children of which four were still living. Kay Larsen -----Original Message----- From: Marfy Goodspeed <marfyg@gmail.com> To: njhunter <njhunter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 5:53 pm Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Cornelius Myers Hey Helen, hanks for sending out all that info. It certainly helped me, even tho it asn't my query. 've got information on Elijah Myers that seems to conflict with what you rovided for the father of Cornelius. I'm beginning to think there was a econd Elijah living in Delaware Twp.. married Lucretia Huffman in 1840 and atharine Crips in 1850. He had Delaware Twp. land transactions in the 850s. Just thought I'd share that. arfy Marfy Goodspeed **marfyg@gmail.com** oodspeed Histories http://goodspeedhistories.com/ n Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Helen <HelenM57@comcast.net> wrote: > The only Cornelius Myers I can help with is the one born in 1806. According to his death certificate, he died on the 5th of April, 1891 at the age of 85 years, 0 months, 17 days, which computes to a birth date of 19 Mar 1806. Birthplace was listed as Warren County, NJ and occupation was cooper. The DC gives his parents as Elijah Myers and Sarah Dilley. If you decide to look for Elijah and Sarah, you will need to search in Sussex County because Warren wasn't created until 1825. This Cornelius was married to Charity Williamson, the daughter of Peter Williamson and Jane Britton. She died 3 Oct 1891 and both of their DC's list them as buried in Locktown. I have not been able to locate their gravestones in either of the two cemeteries there. Through the years, Cornelius and Charity seemed to have bounced between Kingwood and Delaware Twps. and both have either Sergeantsville or Delaware Twp. listed as their residence on their DC's. Cornelius and Charity were married 8 Aug 1835, in Hunterdon County. I only have two children listed. 1. Sarah Jane Myers, b. about 1836 2. Ephraim R. Myers, b. Dec 1837 Hope this helps a bit. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eva Myer" <e.walker.myer@gmail.com> To: <NJHUNTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:19 PM Subject: [NJHUNTER] Cornelius Myers > Today I am focused on a *Cornelius Myers* b. @ 1745 who is about 85 years > old in the 1830 Hunterdon Co. Census. Probably the same person who is > listed in New Jersey Pensioners 1835 as being placed on the pension roll > in > 1833. There is another Cornelius Myers in NJ b. 1790 (don't know if it is > Hunterdon Co.) listed in index of War of 1812 enlistees. Yet another > Cornelius Myers is listed in the 1880 Hunterdon Co. census as age 74 (b. > abt. 1806). I hope someone can sort these out for me. I am particularly > interested in the first one b. 1745 to see if he has any connection to > my *Peter > Myer* b. about 1750 who grew up and married Anna Peters in Hunterdon Co. > Peter and Anna Myer moved to Allegany Co. MD in 1790. > Since at least one of the Cornelius Myers was in Amwell Twp. were Peter > Myer lived, I feel that it is possible there is a family connction. Maybe > there is a Cornelius Myers expert in our forum. Hope so. > Thanks. > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message isit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message isit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Hi Kay, The Minutes of the Kingwood Baptist Church, vol. 2, mention Ephraim Myers as moderator of meetings held at Locktown in 1880 and 1881. Prior to that Cornelius Myers (presumably his father) held that postion. Doesn't tell you anything about Cornelia of course. But every little bit . . . Marfy *Marfy Goodspeed **marfyg@gmail.com** Goodspeed Histories http://goodspeedhistories.com/ * On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:15 PM, <kaysfo@aol.com> wrote: > > Thanks for the info on the Myers family. I am interested in Ephraim > Meyers (born Dec. 1837) because it appears that he married one Cornelia H. > Fox, daughter of Absalom Fox who was the son of George Fox and Elizabeth > Sherman. It seems that Absalom traveled quite a bit, first moving to New > York State, then moving to Ohio. After he buried his wife Ararat --?-- in > Ohio, it seems that he moved back to Hunterdon County sometime between the > census of 1850 AND 1860, accompanied by his two daughters Catherine and > Cornelia (also born 1837. Cornelia was born in Ohio, though the 1900 > census states New Jersey. This disagrees with the censuses of 1850, 1860 > and 1880, which all claim Ohio. > > Cornelia is supposed to have married Ephraim in 1860 (after the census). > According to the 1900 census , she bore five children of which four were > still living. > > Kay Larsen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marfy Goodspeed <marfyg@gmail.com> > To: njhunter <njhunter@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 5:53 pm > Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Cornelius Myers > > > Hey Helen, > hanks for sending out all that info. It certainly helped me, even tho it > asn't my query. > 've got information on Elijah Myers that seems to conflict with what you > rovided for the father of Cornelius. I'm beginning to think there was a > econd Elijah living in Delaware Twp.. married Lucretia Huffman in 1840 and > atharine Crips in 1850. He had Delaware Twp. land transactions in the > 850s. Just thought I'd share that. > arfy > Marfy Goodspeed **marfyg@gmail.com** > oodspeed Histories http://goodspeedhistories.com/ > > > n Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Helen <HelenM57@comcast.net> wrote: > > The only Cornelius Myers I can help with is the one born in 1806. > According > to his death certificate, he died on the 5th of April, 1891 at the age of > 85 > years, 0 months, 17 days, which computes to a birth date of 19 Mar 1806. > Birthplace was listed as Warren County, NJ and occupation was cooper. The > DC > gives his parents as Elijah Myers and Sarah Dilley. If you decide to look > for Elijah and Sarah, you will need to search in Sussex County because > Warren wasn't created until 1825. > > This Cornelius was married to Charity Williamson, the daughter of Peter > Williamson and Jane Britton. She died 3 Oct 1891 and both of their DC's > list > them as buried in Locktown. I have not been able to locate their > gravestones > in either of the two cemeteries there. > > Through the years, Cornelius and Charity seemed to have bounced between > Kingwood and Delaware Twps. and both have either Sergeantsville or > Delaware > Twp. listed as their residence on their DC's. > > Cornelius and Charity were married 8 Aug 1835, in Hunterdon County. I only > have two children listed. > 1. Sarah Jane Myers, b. about 1836 > 2. Ephraim R. Myers, b. Dec 1837 > > Hope this helps a bit. > > Helen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eva Myer" <e.walker.myer@gmail.com> > To: <NJHUNTER@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:19 PM > Subject: [NJHUNTER] Cornelius Myers > > > > Today I am focused on a *Cornelius Myers* b. @ 1745 who is about 85 > years > > old in the 1830 Hunterdon Co. Census. Probably the same person who is > > listed in New Jersey Pensioners 1835 as being placed on the pension roll > > in > > 1833. There is another Cornelius Myers in NJ b. 1790 (don't know if it > is > > Hunterdon Co.) listed in index of War of 1812 enlistees. Yet another > > Cornelius Myers is listed in the 1880 Hunterdon Co. census as age 74 (b. > > abt. 1806). I hope someone can sort these out for me. I am particularly > > interested in the first one b. 1745 to see if he has any connection to > > my *Peter > > Myer* b. about 1750 who grew up and married Anna Peters in Hunterdon Co. > > Peter and Anna Myer moved to Allegany Co. MD in 1790. > > Since at least one of the Cornelius Myers was in Amwell Twp. were > Peter > > Myer lived, I feel that it is possible there is a family connction. > Maybe > > there is a Cornelius Myers expert in our forum. Hope so. > > Thanks. > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > isit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Marfy There may not be a conflict after all. It's possible that Cornelius' mother died and his father moved to Hunterdon and remarried - twice. The DC definitely says he was born in Warren County, which technically didn't exist in 1806. But I think it's possible that the family moved. Also possible that whoever supplied the info didn't know the correct answers. :) I'll see if I can dig up any info on Elijah. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marfy Goodspeed" <marfyg@gmail.com> To: <njhunter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Cornelius Myers > Hey Helen, > Thanks for sending out all that info. It certainly helped me, even tho it > wasn't my query. > I've got information on Elijah Myers that seems to conflict with what you > provided for the father of Cornelius. I'm beginning to think there was a > second Elijah living in Delaware Twp.. married Lucretia Huffman in 1840 > and > Catharine Crips in 1850. He had Delaware Twp. land transactions in the > 1850s. Just thought I'd share that. > Marfy > *Marfy Goodspeed **marfyg@gmail.com** > Goodspeed Histories http://goodspeedhistories.com/ > * > > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Helen <HelenM57@comcast.net> wrote: > >> The only Cornelius Myers I can help with is the one born in 1806. >> According >> to his death certificate, he died on the 5th of April, 1891 at the age of >> 85 >> years, 0 months, 17 days, which computes to a birth date of 19 Mar 1806. >> Birthplace was listed as Warren County, NJ and occupation was cooper. The >> DC >> gives his parents as Elijah Myers and Sarah Dilley. If you decide to look >> for Elijah and Sarah, you will need to search in Sussex County because >> Warren wasn't created until 1825. >> >> This Cornelius was married to Charity Williamson, the daughter of Peter >> Williamson and Jane Britton. She died 3 Oct 1891 and both of their DC's >> list >> them as buried in Locktown. I have not been able to locate their >> gravestones >> in either of the two cemeteries there. >> >> Through the years, Cornelius and Charity seemed to have bounced between >> Kingwood and Delaware Twps. and both have either Sergeantsville or >> Delaware >> Twp. listed as their residence on their DC's. >> >> Cornelius and Charity were married 8 Aug 1835, in Hunterdon County. I >> only >> have two children listed. >> 1. Sarah Jane Myers, b. about 1836 >> 2. Ephraim R. Myers, b. Dec 1837 >> >> Hope this helps a bit. >> >> Helen >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Eva Myer" <e.walker.myer@gmail.com> >> To: <NJHUNTER@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:19 PM >> Subject: [NJHUNTER] Cornelius Myers >> >> >> > Today I am focused on a *Cornelius Myers* b. @ 1745 who is about 85 >> > years >> > old in the 1830 Hunterdon Co. Census. Probably the same person who is >> > listed in New Jersey Pensioners 1835 as being placed on the pension >> > roll >> > in >> > 1833. There is another Cornelius Myers in NJ b. 1790 (don't know if it >> > is >> > Hunterdon Co.) listed in index of War of 1812 enlistees. Yet another >> > Cornelius Myers is listed in the 1880 Hunterdon Co. census as age 74 >> > (b. >> > abt. 1806). I hope someone can sort these out for me. I am >> > particularly >> > interested in the first one b. 1745 to see if he has any connection to >> > my *Peter >> > Myer* b. about 1750 who grew up and married Anna Peters in Hunterdon >> > Co. >> > Peter and Anna Myer moved to Allegany Co. MD in 1790. >> > Since at least one of the Cornelius Myers was in Amwell Twp. were >> > Peter >> > Myer lived, I feel that it is possible there is a family connction. >> Maybe >> > there is a Cornelius Myers expert in our forum. Hope so. >> > Thanks. >> > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUNTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message