Received this from my cousin Glenn Van Vliet who also searches in NJ and thought the group would find this interesting as did I. Gerry Farrow I sent a similar article a while ago to some of you, but it seems this issue is getting more attention. Before you consider it hocus pocus: http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/110104/new_20041101011.shtml We used this technique to locate power lines and water lines when I was a land surveyor. I can't explain it, but it works. It likely has something to do with the rods repelling each other due to a magnetic current and difference in charges when the underground line is crossed slowly. Not unlike two magnets of the same charge repelling each other. It would allow us to dig and place monuments and narrowly miss lines. As for locating unmarked graves, I can't be so sure, but will leave for your consideration. I realize there will be skeptics. I suspect more will be written about this in the future. Glenn

Kim, You can get a microfilm through the LDS containing the record of marriages. It contains photocopies of scraps of papers, lists, etc., and not in order. A little time consuming, but worth it if no one volunteers to do a lookup for you. Pat

Hi Doug, They probably travelled the same route taken by Daniel Boone. Old Dan'l blazed part of the trail across the Cumberland Gap into the territory of Kentucky. There are many books written about these trails, one such is "The Great Wagon Road" by Parke Rouse, jr. If your local library does not have this book, they could obtain it for you through Inter-library loan. Many Scotch-Irish, Germans and English followed this trail and countless cities and towns sprung up along the Great Wagon Road. There has never been such a road as this, and it a fascinating story. In the back of this particular book is a vast Bibliography of books studied in order to write this book, so there are many references available. Evelyn My ancestors and a number of related families moved from Hunterdon Co. to the northern Kentucky area (mostly Mason Co.) in the 1790's to early 1800's. I believe they were mostly from the Hopewell area, and the surnames include Gordon, Stout, Runyan, Anderson, Donovan, Corwine, and Hart. I would really like to know something about their actual journey: why they left, how many went at a time, what route they took, etc. Does anyone have anything like this? I've looked in a number of places for this information in both KY and NJ, but no luck so far. Doug Gordon http://history.wdgordon.com ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== This mail list is archived at: http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER ============================== OneWorldTree - The World's largest family tree. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13971/rd.ashx

My branch of the William Williamson Patience Hull family moved from Hunterdon Co to VA to 5 miles west of Lexington, where Wm Jr. is buried on an active horse breeding farm. His son John moved on to PA and then to OH. Richard Williamson Tucson, AZ http://members.aol.com/rrw122433/INDEX.htm

Add the DeMott family to that list. In my family's case, there was bounty land involved-given to two DeMott brothers who served in the Revolution from New York (just learned this at the David Library in Valley Forge, Pennsylvania; a great resource). At least three DeMott families apparently migrated. I'd long wondered why the DeMotts disappeared from New Jersey. Leslie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Gordon" <doug@wdgordon.com> To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 4:43 PM Subject: [NJHUNTER] Emigration to Kentucky > My ancestors and a number of related families moved from Hunterdon Co. to > the northern Kentucky area (mostly Mason Co.) in the 1790's to early > 1800's. I believe they were mostly from the Hopewell area, and the > surnames include Gordon, Stout, Runyan, Anderson, Donovan, Corwine, and > Hart. I would really like to know something about their actual journey: > why they left, how many went at a time, what route they took, etc. Does > anyone have anything like this? I've looked in a number of places for this > information in both KY and NJ, but no luck so far. > > Doug Gordon > http://history.wdgordon.com > > > ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== > This mail list is archived at: > http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER > > ============================== > OneWorldTree - The World's largest family tree. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13971/rd.ashx >

Hi! Does anyone have a marriage index for Phillipsburg, Warren County, year 1890 that would be willing to do a marriage lookup for me? I am in Virginia and have not be able to find this information and am unable to get to the Marx Room in Easton. The names are Frank Eckhardt and Elizabeth Ellen Wyant, m. 12/30/1890. Thanks so much in advance! Kim Eckhardt --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com/a

My ancestors and a number of related families moved from Hunterdon Co. to the northern Kentucky area (mostly Mason Co.) in the 1790's to early 1800's. I believe they were mostly from the Hopewell area, and the surnames include Gordon, Stout, Runyan, Anderson, Donovan, Corwine, and Hart. I would really like to know something about their actual journey: why they left, how many went at a time, what route they took, etc. Does anyone have anything like this? I've looked in a number of places for this information in both KY and NJ, but no luck so far. Doug Gordon http://history.wdgordon.com

My old Dutch Peterson line (Pieterse) migrated to NJ-Virginia, to Kentucky and some lines to Ohio. When Wm. Peterson wrote his book, Ancestors and Descendants of Garrett Peterson and Nancy Smock...Gateway, 1985, he wrote about their travels. This family intermarried with many old Dutch lines: Smock, Stout, Wicoff, and on and on. You may wish to borrow from a library to read his chapters on the Dutch Migration to Kentucky. This book is available through the LDS, some universities and colleges have a copy. It is no longer in print. He was a very good writer and enlivened his genealogy books with not just names, dates but how these ancestors lived, traveled and the times they lived in. He cites some of the Stout and Hart families as well. Annie Peterson Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Gordon" <doug@wdgordon.com> To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 1:43 PM Subject: [NJHUNTER] Emigration to Kentucky > My ancestors and a number of related families moved from Hunterdon Co. to > the northern Kentucky area (mostly Mason Co.) in the 1790's to early > 1800's. I believe they were mostly from the Hopewell area, and the > surnames include Gordon, Stout, Runyan, Anderson, Donovan, Corwine, and > Hart. I would really like to know something about their actual journey: > why they left, how many went at a time, what route they took, etc. Does > anyone have anything like this? I've looked in a number of places for this > information in both KY and NJ, but no luck so far. > > Doug Gordon > http://history.wdgordon.com > > > ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== > This mail list is archived at: > http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER > > ============================== > OneWorldTree - The World's largest family tree. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13971/rd.ashx > > >

The town named after the Stouts is northwest of Princeton. Still there. I have Stout connections in NJ and Ohio. My family in Hunterdon is OSBORN. Mary Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne" <lkranieri@comcast.net> To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:53 AM Subject: [NJHUNTER] WEART/SKILLMAN/STOUT/VANDYKE/HAWK/SUTPHEN/WYCKOFF and ... > I would like to apologize if this message was already sent to the entire > list, but I never got it and I could not find it in the archives: > > ... SUMMINS, SHEPPARD, CRUSER, VOORHEES, DRAKE, SKILLMAN, PITTENGER, > LABAU, RYNEARSON(?), HAGAMAN, COOK, WATERS, WILLOCK, RAISONER ... > > I am trying to find out exactly where Stoutsburg/Stoutsburgh is or was. > The family names in the subject line and above are some of the families > which lived there in 1869. Can anyone tell me whether there is still a > Stoutsburg and in what county it is now? If it is no longer a town, what > is where it used to be, please? > Thanks. > Lynne > > > ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== > Visit the Updated Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Forwarded message about NJSA Lecture: > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph R Klett [mailto:joseph.klett@sos.state.nj.us] > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:23 PM > To: New Jersey History ListServe; GSNJ Listserve > Subject: [gsnj] Lecture on Proprietors' Records > > Dear Colleagues: > > There are still a few spaces available for this week's "Exploring Your > Jersey Roots" lecture scheduled for Wednesday at 6:30 p.m. in the State > Archives' Manuscript Reading Room. The topic: Using the Records of the > East and West Jersey Proprietors. The presenter: yours truly. I will > review the records available at the Archives (spanning 320+ years) as > well as current database projects and the resultant indexes which now > provide increased access to these land records. I will also discuss > several cases in which proprietary records were used to document > otherwise unproven lineages. > > Space is limited, so please let us know if you plan to attend. > Registration of $8 can be paid at the door. > > The fall lecture series is cosponsored by the State Archives and the > Genealogical Society of New Jersey. This week's session is the last of > the topical presentations; the final evening next Wednesday will feature > two "Ask the Experts" sessions at 5:00 and 6:45. This Wednesday, the > State Archives Microfilm Reading Room will again have extended public > hours from 4:30 to 6:00 (but we will not have extended hours next > Wednesday). Parking is available on the street or, after 3:00 p.m., in > the parking lot behind the State Archives, 225 West State Street, > Trenton. > > To register or for more information please contact Veronica Calder at > 609-984-3297, e-mail: veronica.calder@sos.state.nj.us > > Hope to see you here... > > With best regards, > > Joseph R. Klett > Chief of Archives >

Hi Lynn, I know you already got one answer, but here is another reference: STOUTSBURGH, Now in Mercer County about 2 miles East of Hopewell on CR 518. "For Hopewell Township. - Lewis Stout, Harbourtown, William Rose, of Hopewell, Samuel H. Stout, of Stoutsburgh." (Hunterdon Gazette 17 Sept 1828) Regards, Bill

There is a Stoutsburg in Somerset County; the furthest SW corner, where it meets the Mercer County border. Also not far from the Hunterdon border. It is just east of Hopewell Boro, and a little SW of Skillman. Hope this helps, Helen

I would like to apologize if this message was already sent to the entire list, but I never got it and I could not find it in the archives: ... SUMMINS, SHEPPARD, CRUSER, VOORHEES, DRAKE, SKILLMAN, PITTENGER, LABAU, RYNEARSON(?), HAGAMAN, COOK, WATERS, WILLOCK, RAISONER ... I am trying to find out exactly where Stoutsburg/Stoutsburgh is or was. The family names in the subject line and above are some of the families which lived there in 1869. Can anyone tell me whether there is still a Stoutsburg and in what county it is now? If it is no longer a town, what is where it used to be, please? Thanks. Lynne

Hi All I apologize for duplication of the final announcement I sent about GSNJ's annual meeting! I sent it from a non-subscribed address the first time around and so it was rejected from some lists. I hope to see you all there anyway... Regards, Joan Joan M. Lowry mailto:jmlowry@earthlink.net

Hi folks I thought I'd post this one last time... The Genealogical Society of New Jersey Presents Our 83rd Annual Meeting and Fall Lecture When: Saturday, November 6, 2004, 9:30 a.m. Where: B. P. O. E. Lodge, 40 Livingston Avenue, New Brunswick, NJ This GSNJ program is free of charge and open to the general public. Reservations are suggested in order to ensure adequate seating. Please get your reservation in as soon as possible. (However, we should be able to accommodate last minute walk-ins. So, if your plans change and you suddenly find yourself with a free day - please join us!) Mel Wolfgang is a wonderful lecturer and the sources he's going to discuss will make you want to go hunting for family members in lots of new places! You can see our website for the specifics on Mr Wolfgang's lectures: www.gsnj.org Click on Events, then on the Annual Meeting Registration Form... Lecture 1: "To the Honorable the Board of Supervisors...": A Genealogist's Guide to Identifying and Using the Obscure and Uncommon Records of Local (City, Town and County) Governments. Lecture 2: Tracing Paupers and Orphans, Sturdy Beggars and the Worthy Poor: A Walk on the Dark Side of Genealogical Research. Also - Jonathan Sheppard Books will be there selling books and maps. They have a great supply of recently published books and an interesting selection of used books. (He always has NJ related books that I haven't found elsewhere.) He has a wide variety of maps - both worldwide and very local. I'm planning to do some early Christmas shopping (okay, so it's for me... but who's to know that, right?) And, don't forget that Special Collections at Alexander Library will be open after the lectures until 5pm. Their genealogical collection is wonderful and our own manuscript collections, including Bible records and cemetery records, are there. Email reservations can still be accepted. Why not play genealogical-hooky and make a day of it? The leaf raking can always wait till Sunday! Send registration to: Genealogical Society of New Jersey C. Arthur Lawton mailto:art.lawton@comcast.net Thanks for listening and we hope to see you there.... Best, Joan Joan M. Lowry Genealogical Society of New Jersey mailto:jml-gsnj@earthlink.net website: www.gsnj.org

Do the early records of the Episcopal Church at Ringoes, New Jersey, exist? I'm trying to document the birth in 1786 of Letitia UPDYKE to Samuel OPDYCKE and wife Jane HART. Samuel Opdycke was in Kingwood, New Jersey, in 1797, and in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, in 1804. The published family history says that his father George Opdycke attended "the Episcopal Church at Ringos," which I assume was St. Andrews. I've seen the sign next to the Harvest Moon Inn that says SITE OF ST. ANDREW'S CHURCH PRIOR TO 1750 AN ANGLICAN CHURCH BUILT OF LOGS, LATER STONE. ONLY PORTIONS OF CEMETERY REAMIN. DR. GERSHOM CRAVEN, WHO TREATED GENERAL LAFAYETTE, IS BURIED HERE. ALL GRAVES FACE EAST AS WAS THE CUSTOM OF THE TIME. EAST AMWELL TOWNSHIP HISTORIC COMMISSION SIGN DONATED BY THE HARVEST MOON INN There is a cemetery transcription at http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nj/hunterdon/cemeteries/standrews.txt

Listers, Please consider helping with the following project. As you may know, the histories of Holland and Alexandria have been difficult due to shifting borders over the early years. Also, many of the early settlers of the area were "tenant farmers" along large tracts of land. Please read on... What was it like here in the early days? Publication of THE EARLY SETTLERS OF HOLLAND TOWNSHIP moves a giant step closer with the receipt of a $1,000 grant from the Hunterdon Cultural and Heritage Commission. Authored by Holland Township Committiee-man, Robert Peabody, the work is based on the writings of JESSE SINCLAIR (1818 - 1896) in the Milford Leader, predecessor of the Del-Val News. Supported by other members of the Holland Historic Preservation Commission, Mr. Peabody has also intensively researched original deeds and land conveyances. If anyone has information about or photographs of the early SINCLAIR family, please contact Mr. Peabody by email at pagprolog@aol.com Early Settlers is expected to be completed and published in 2005. [***Posted to this list with the permission of Mr. Peabody.***] Thanks for any help you can offer to this project! Beverly G. Kirby-McDonough Holland Township

Marshall, I have signed up for the 6th and hope to see you there! Nancy

Thanks Joan very much, i will check out the archives, sincerely, teresa.

Teresa They have these on film at the State Archives in Trenton and they are available on Inter-Library loan from there. They may also be available through the LDS - but I'm not sure of that. They will give you information on the head of household relative to land holdings, and things like number of cows or sheep owned, etc. I don't think they provide any family information - not even a head count or age range. I do not think the records indicate whether a "land holder" was an owner or tenant. There may be more information on these records at the State Archives website: http://www.njarchives.org/links/reference.html Hopefully others on this list will be able to give you more specific info! Regards, Joan Joan M. Lowry mailto:jmlowry@earthlink.net > -----Original Message----- > From: teresaz06@aol.com [mailto:teresaz06@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 4:32 PM > To: NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: tax lists 1793 > > > Since i find some penwell in the census but only what was taken from tax > lists in 1793, my question is has anyone ever looked at the > actual tax lists and > if so would they tell me anything ? Also where would i find > them? any advice > most appreciated. T >