I would imagine is what did the title cryer mean at the time. Many definitions have evolved over the years. I do not know of an earlier american dictionary, but Webster's 1828 dictionary defines it as: CRIER, CRYER, n. [See Cry.] One who cries; one who makes proclamation. The crier of a court is an officer whose duty is to proclaim the orders or commands of the court, to open or adjourn the court, keep silence, &c. A crier is also employed to give notice of auctions, and for other purposes. http://www.cbtministries.org/resources/webster1828.htm - John Dick Carter <rcar37@prodigy.net> wrote: I believe a Cryer was also someone who walked thru the streets "Crying" out the news.... ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== This mail list is archived at: http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'

Thank you Jan. I appreciate that you looked up the Swick info for me, and all the time you are giving to this. Gloria in Arizona

John WOORTMAN (probably WORTMAN, and possibly my ancestor) was accused of treason in New Jersey in 1778. He's listed in Jones's book, LOYALISTS OF NEW JERSEY (1928), but no county is named. The man and his wife & 4 children were sent on the Spring Fleet to New Brunswick, Canada, in 1783 and he got land there. He was accused of being the ringleader of a group who were planning to capture some patriots and deliver them to Col. Butler and the Indians. I can only imagine that they were planning to take their captives by boat up the Delaware so he would most likely have been in one of the western New Jersey counties. The man who accused him was Isaac Thompson, who paid taxes for land in Gloucester County, but there were Wortmans in Hunterdon County. In fact, I have found about five men named John Wortman at that time, in various counties, but they don't fit, for one reason or another. Several were still in New Jersey after the Revolution. Does anyone have any idea where I should look next? Charlene in Oregon

I would also be interested in the Hunterdon Record Books. Thanks......Bertha Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Hartman" <mrbill1033@comcast.net> To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Hunterdon Record Books >I have already emailed Roxanne at the Hunterdon County Historical Society >and will let the NJHUNTER list know he response as soon as received. > > Regards, Bill > > > ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== > Visit the Updated Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

I have already emailed Roxanne at the Hunterdon County Historical Society and will let the NJHUNTER list know he response as soon as received. Regards, Bill

I forgot I have a book called, "What did they mean by that." A dictionary of Historical and Genealogical Terms by Paul Drake, JD. I purchased it from Heritage Books a year of so ago. The author says a cryer was an auctioneer. He must have been paid to sell the Loyalists property which was confiscated. Since the fee was about 2 pounds that makes more sense.

I am willing to write the Historical Society to urge them to reprint the book. It has such important information in it. I think if they have sold the other subsequent volumes, they would be able to sell this one again. There are many, many more people doing genealogy these days. Judy Arthur

I also have purchased several NJ books from www.colonialroots.com If you are not familiar with them I suggest you check it out. They have books on most counties in NJ.

I checked the Higginson Books website today to make sure. They have none of D'Autrechey's books. I spoke to someone personally at the HCHS (sometime ago) about this very issue , and they did not sound as though they were inclined to do a reprint of this book. Perhaps if everyone on the list would drop them a line and urge them to do a reprint, they might reconsider as they would see that there is a ready market. I think the costs of publishing are escalating, and a certain amount of books must ordered from the publisher upfront. Therefore they are afraid that they will find themselves with books that they can not sell and that they will lose money. Plus right now they have scant place to store piles of unsold books. Perhaps if we can convince them that the market is there, that will do the trick. Now, since Mrs. D'Autrechey has died, I suppose they would have to get the permission of her estate to reprint the book, but I wouldn't think that that would be a problem. Kay

The first book Some Records of Old Hunterdon Co. was published in 1978. So the copyright would still be in force. The Historical Society would need permission from the original publisher, Trenton Printing Co. Mrs. D'Autrechy is now deceased, but I suspect the Hunterdon Co. Historical Society could obtain the permission and re-publish if there was enough interest. I have both books and have found them very valuable. I use them often.

Thanks Jan for taking the time out and checking for me. You have done some great work. Sandra In a message dated 2/14/05 9:31:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, JanAlpert@aol.com writes: No Silvers listed

No, I didn't even think about Higginson in this regard. I thought the Hunterdon Historical Society probably had the rights to these books. Judy Arthur

Jan: I am on vacation down in Florida without my genealogy record books. Just in case, would you please look up Philhower? Thanks in advance Bob Philhower

Have you tried Higginsonbooks.com? Does anyone know if there are any plans to reprint that first Hunterdon Record Book? There is so much information there and it is difficult to find that book unless you are in certain libraries. I have bought the newer ones and they have been very helpful. It seems that this would be a money maker for the Hunterdon Society. Judy Arthur

A cryer or the town cryer was a person paid to make an oral public proclamation. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JanAlpert@aol.com> To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] > There are several references to a George Lacy but they all are as follows > > To George Lacy for Crying the above Vendue, usually paid about 2 pounds > > This is related to inquisitions of the Loyalists in Hunterdon Co. during > the > Rev. War. The records appear to be in 1779. He was providing some kind > of > service for which he was paid. I don't see an explanation in the book > about > what this means. p. 230, 251, 254, 255 & 259 > > There is no other information about him in the book. > > Maybe someone else knows what this means. > > > ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== > This mail list is archived at: > http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Yes, I think it is time to reprint the book. I received over 30 inquiries and some of the names appear often. I bought the two D'Autrechy books because I had several families in Hunterdon Co.

Thank you. That is a good suggestion.

Joseph S. Hart was a witness to a slave manumission of Jenny, aged 26, owned by Samuel H. Burroughts-Hopewell. 22 Apr 1828 record p. 274 p. 440 Rachel, aed 21, woned by Joseph Hart-Hopewell. 16 sep 1826. Wit: Daniel Cook & Theophilus Hart. p. 206 in the Old Hunterdon book Jos. S. Hart was a household with a free black. Hopewell Township. 1830

Does anyone know if there are any plans to reprint that first Hunterdon Record Book? There is so much information there and it is difficult to find that book unless you are in certain libraries. I have bought the newer ones and they have been very helpful. It seems that this would be a money maker for the Hunterdon Society. Judy Arthur