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    1. Green(e), Sigler, Broadwater, Alberry, Pitzer
    2. Branches & Lil' Twigs
    3. Does anyone connect to or have information pertaining to any of these early lines of these families from New Jersey, who emigrated to Loudoun Co, VA and then Allegany Co, MD? Time frame would be mid to late 1700's. Surnames I am looking for : Green(e), Sigler, Broadwater, Alberry, Pitzer. New Jersey Counties I believe involved are: SUSSEX COUNTY, Created in 1753 from Morris County MORRIS COUNTY, Created in 1739 from Hunterdon County HUNTERDON COUNTY, Created in 1714 from Burlington County BURLINGTON COUNTY, Created in 1694 as an original county Thank you. Fran

    02/25/2005 04:47:52
    1. Re: [NJHUNTER] MICHAEL family NJ to Loudoun, VA
    2. Branches & Lil' Twigs
    3. I also am trying to connect families from New Jersey with Loudoun Co, VA and Allegany Co, MD. I have a Michael m. Sigler. Some of the surnames I have from Loudoun Co are Sigler, Broadwater, Green, Alberry, Pitzer. Does anyone connect with any early lines of these families from New Jersey? Thank you. Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alana Bauman" <sbauman@netnitco.net> To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:32 AM Subject: [NJHUNTER] MICHAEL family NJ to Loudoun, VA >I have found this conversation very interesting. I have a MICHAEL family >that moved from Loudoun Co., VA to Allegany Co., MD in ther 1780's. They >were from NJ before that, but I have not found where. Does anyone know an >early MICHAEL family in NJ? Thanks. > > Alana > > > ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== > Visit the Updated Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

    02/25/2005 03:53:19
    1. MICHAEL family NJ to Loudoun, VA
    2. Alana Bauman
    3. I have found this conversation very interesting. I have a MICHAEL family that moved from Loudoun Co., VA to Allegany Co., MD in ther 1780's. They were from NJ before that, but I have not found where. Does anyone know an early MICHAEL family in NJ? Thanks. Alana

    02/25/2005 02:32:23
    1. FRe: [NJHUNTER] NJ to Loudoun, VA
    2. Al Sinclair
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Graff" <j.graff@sbcglobal.net> To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [NJHUNTER] NJ to Loudoun, VA > My VAN DEVENTERs immigrated from New York City to Hunterdon County, NJ, in > about 1700, on to Monmouth County, NJ, then to Burks County, PA, by about > 1764 and finally to Loudoun County, VA, by about 1770. So they didn't take > the straightest of roads, but got there just the same. > John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ORWAHIST@aol.com> > To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:32 PM > Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] NJ to Loudoun, VA > > > > > > One of the Vannoy Families moved from Hunterdon Co., to Loudoun Co., VA > > > > Dennis > > Olympia, Wash > > > > From: "Marty Hiatt" <martyhiatt@starpower.net> > > >Reply-To: NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: [NJHUNTER] NJ to Loudoun, VA > > >Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:17:10 -0500 > > > > > >1.) I am looking for surnames of families that moved from Hunterdon Co. > to > > >northern Virginia. > > > > > >2.) there was a Dutch community in Loudoun County, VA, ca. 1800, and I > > >wonder how many of them came from Hunterdon. > > > > > >Ms. Marty Hiatt, CGRS > > >"Document what you find, listen to what you are told, and especially, > love > > >and respect your work." John Morris > > > > > >CGRS is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, > > >used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: <ATRYAN0704@aol.com> > > >To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:05 PM > > >Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] my ancestors in Hunterdon County > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Updated Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > > > > ============================== > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > >

    02/25/2005 01:14:12
    1. Doolittle question--YAWGER family
    2. Does anyone know what church "DOOLITTLE" pastored? Also, do any of you have info on the YAWGER family? Thanks, Joan

    02/24/2005 03:34:40
    1. Re: [NJHUNTER] NJ to Loudoun, VA
    2. One of the Vannoy Families moved from Hunterdon Co., to Loudoun Co., VA Dennis Olympia, Wash From: "Marty Hiatt" <martyhiatt@starpower.net> >Reply-To: NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com >To: NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NJHUNTER] NJ to Loudoun, VA >Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:17:10 -0500 > >1.) I am looking for surnames of families that moved from Hunterdon Co. to >northern Virginia. > >2.) there was a Dutch community in Loudoun County, VA, ca. 1800, and I >wonder how many of them came from Hunterdon. > >Ms. Marty Hiatt, CGRS >"Document what you find, listen to what you are told, and especially, love >and respect your work." John Morris > >CGRS is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, >used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <ATRYAN0704@aol.com> >To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:05 PM >Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] my ancestors in Hunterdon County >

    02/24/2005 03:32:17
    1. RE: [NJHUNTER] NJ to Loudoun, VA
    2. J.F. Purcell
    3. The Purcell Family moved from Hunterdon County to Loudon County VA. JF Purcell Oceanside, NY >From: "Marty Hiatt" <martyhiatt@starpower.net> >Reply-To: NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com >To: NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NJHUNTER] NJ to Loudoun, VA >Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:17:10 -0500 > >1.) I am looking for surnames of families that moved from Hunterdon Co. to >northern Virginia. > >2.) there was a Dutch community in Loudoun County, VA, ca. 1800, and I >wonder how many of them came from Hunterdon. > >Ms. Marty Hiatt, CGRS >"Document what you find, listen to what you are told, and especially, love >and respect your work." John Morris > >CGRS is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, >used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <ATRYAN0704@aol.com> >To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:05 PM >Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] my ancestors in Hunterdon County > > > > > > In a message dated 2/16/2005 11:59:52 AM Central Standard Time, > > ybcr@comcast.net writes: > > > > I have an Abigail Young, born in 1833, who married Sylvester Hazlett, >born > > in 1839. They were buried in the Methodist Cemetery in (nearby to > > Hunterdon) Asbury, Warren County. Madge (Hazlett) Johns. > > > > Here are the names-Barber, Kuhl, Sutphin, Holcombe, Higgins, Young, > > Hoppock, Quick, Hortman, Hill, Chamberlain, Fisher, Johnson, Corle, >Emley, > > Prall, Stout, Wilson, Groff, Baldwin, Skillman, Gray, Marshall, >Trimmer, > > Fulper, Veghte, Harley, Beekman, Kaes, Woolsey, Youngblood, Atkinson, >Schenck > > > > > > I guess I misunderstood your email (above). When you wrote, "Here are >the > > names..." what was that about. Sorry to bug you but since there are >quite >a > > few names there that are in my tree, I naturally became excited. > > Thanks, > > Ana > > > > ______________________________ > > >==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== >Visit the Updated Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

    02/24/2005 03:24:56
    1. Re: [NJHUNTER] Re:research available
    2. Al Sinclair
    3. > Linda: > Little, Abraham and Jerusha Lambert, 9 Nov 1805 (1-102) by Covenhven, J. P. > Little, Christopher and Ann Bareroff, 10 May 1810, (1-191) by Hunt > Little, Christy and Naomi Bowman (widow) 12 Feb 1840 (3-164 by Hunt, Sr. > Little, Christopher and Rachel Cook, 6 Nov 1801 (1-60) by Hunt > Little, Daniel and Sarah Hoff, 15 Dec 1838 (3-147) by Hunt, Sr. > Little, Deborah and Cornelius B. Sheats, 26 Oct 1840 (3-167) by Hunt > Little, Emiline H. and Thomas E. Anderson, 23 Jan 1866 > (4-30) by Williamson > Little, James S. and Sarah A . Best, 18 Oct 1876 (4-170) by Williamson > Little, John and Mary Dennis 26 Mar 1804 (1-81 by Covenhoven > Little, Maggie and George H. Willever, 2 M ay 1874 ( 4-126) by Williamson > Little, Margaret W. and Robert T. Anderson, 30 Oct 1858 (3-383) by by > Williamson > Little, Mary and Mahlon Swearer, 21 Nov 1839, (3-157) by Hunt > Little, Mary Esther and Samuel H. Smith 5 Mar 1865 (4-29) by Williamson > Little, Saley (Sally?) and Garret Lair 24 Nov 1808 (1-157) by Hunt > Little, Sarah and John Pickel, 28 Mar 1813, (2-16) by Hunt. > Little, Sedgewick and Maria Snyder 14 Mar 1862 (3-312) by Dailey > Little, Susan and John Youman 23 Apr 1809 (1-160) by Dailey > Little, Thomas and Matilda W. Denson, 23 Nov1844 ( 3-312) by Studdiford > Little, William W. and Deliah Martindell 4 Jul 1870 (4-169) by Upham > Little, Wilson and Jane M. Stuff, 25 Nov 1848 ( 3-288) by Porter > Hope this helps. Marilyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack & Linda Dietz" <jdietz2@woh.rr.com> > To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:12 AM > Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Re:research available > > > > Hi Marilyn, > > Are there any LITTLE marriages? > > Thanks > > Linda D > > jdietz2@woh.rr.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marilyn Boutwell" <aboutwell2@cox.net> > > To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:03 PM > > Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Re:research available > > > > > >> Mary: In Hunterdon County Marriages, 1795-1875 by Hiram E. Deats are > >> listed: > >> Killgore, Anthony and Louise E. Dunham married 16 May 1877 (4-176 by > >> Vassar > >> Killgore, Lora and Charles H. Chapman, 11 Nov 1873, (4-99) by Vassar > >> Killgore, Robert J. and Alice Vansycklle married on 3 Jan 1843 (3-185) > >> by Barrass > >> Hope this helps. Marilyn > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "mary tyrrell" <mary.tyrrell@starband.net> > >> To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:49 PM > >> Subject: [NJHUNTER] Re:research available > >> > >> > >>> Does the Hunterdon County Historical society or other entity provide > >>> research for those of us out of state? The Killgore's I am looking for > >>> moved there in 1850's - I am looking for anything on Robert,editor for > >>> many > >>> years of the Hunterdon Democrat, and any of his family members. > >>> Thank you, > >>> Mary Killgore Tyrrell > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: <JanAlpert@aol.com> > >>> To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 1:42 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Killgore family > >>> > >>> > >>>> There is no Killgore information in the book Some Records of Hunterdon > >>>> County. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== > >>>> Visit the Updated Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > >>>> > >>>> ============================== > >>>> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > >>>> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== > >>> This mail list is archived at: > >>> http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER > >>> > >>> ============================== > >>> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > >>> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== > >> Visit the Updated Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > >> > >> ============================== > >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > >> Learn more: > >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Updated Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > >

    02/24/2005 09:20:49
    1. Re: [NJHUNTER] Marriage: SNYDER - SINCLAIR
    2. Paul
    3. Linda, Do you know how the family got to Iowa? Or how they got to S. Dakota? What did they do for a living? William Sinclair my gggrnadfather was a stone mason in NJ, but farmed in Missouri, as did my family. I am a nurse (35 years in June). I married at 38, and we were blessed with 1 daughter. I had 2 miscarriages after her, but Abby was born when I was 42, so I just felt that she is precious. I am glad that you filled me in on names and dates. Rosella ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda McMillin" <jlmcmillin@yahoo.com> To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Marriage: SNYDER - SINCLAIR > Rosella, > Thanks for looking. I did not have the 1910 census. The names are right. > Just to clear it up Veron was my grandfather not Walter. Walter(April 17, > 1897 Clear Creek, IA) is the one brother I dont know what happen to him. > Last we know of him he was in the Dakotas. I tried finding him in the > social securtiy index but didnt find him. Kenneth was killed in WW2. > There were also twins born to the family in 1913 Geraldine(died at birth) > and Laura who died before she was 5. I take it they were in Nebraska in > 1910, is this correct? > * > > . I find Simon age 15 in 1860 father > Peter and mother Elizabeth. Simon had a sister, Permillia who was 10. > > > I am not sure just who the above are? > > The rest agrees with what I have:Simeon D Sinclair 2/6/1845-9/1921 married > Elizabeth Weider 2/20/1853-8/24/1933 had 6 children Simon 1871-1940, Jonas > 1873-1916 died in St. Paul, MN hospital, buried in SD (this was Veron's > father) Peter 1874-,Mary Sinclair 1877, David 1879-1880, Jessie Sinclair > 1881-1959 > > > > Thanks for your help. > > Linda > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > > > ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== > Visit the Updated Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

    02/24/2005 08:34:12
    1. Re: [NJHUNTER] John Opdyke Inquiry - Headquarters
    2. john newman
    3. Unfortunately, as I look at the Washington diaries online, Washington did not keep a diary during that time period. I have looked through Washington's correspondence to Congress. December 1: New Brunswick December 3-6. Trenton December 7. no letter to Congress. BRITISH IN PRINCETON December 8. "Summer Seat" - now Morrisville, Pa., opposite Trenton, N. J.(but this letter mentions traveling the day prior from Trenton to Princeton) BRITISH ARRIVE IN TRENTON Dec. 9 Trenton Falls Dec. 10-11 Falls of the Delaware December 12 Trenton Falls source: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gwhtml/gwseries3.html The website about the "10 crucial days" details Washington during this time period. http://www.10crucialdays.org/html/timeline.htm. It gives a good picture of where Washington was. Bascially, retreate into New Bruswick, to Trenton, to Princeton, to Pennsylvania until the (first) Battle of Trenton. Here is another site that lists places where Washington stayed, from the Reagan Library, http://www.reaganfoundation.org/programs/kk/where.asp?stateID=31 I have a similar situation with one of my own ancestors. The wife of Capt. Adam Hope (of the 2nd Battalion of the Hunterdon Militia), Sarah DUNHAM HOPE, allegedly provided breakfast to the officers of General Lee after he was captured on Dec. 13, 1776. I have found nothing to prove this, save books written many many years later. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    02/24/2005 07:00:35
    1. Fw: William GREENE, Joanna REEDER
    2. Al Sinclair
    3. From: "Branches & Lil' Twigs" <epaurora@visuallink.com> Subject: William GREENE, Joanna REEDER WILLIAM GREENE was born 1671 in England or New Jersey, and died June 16, 1722 in Trenton, Hunterdon Co, NJ. He married JOANNA REEDER in Newton, Long Island, Queens Co., NY. She is the daughter of JOHN REEDER and JOANNA BURROUGHS. Does anyone have a connection with this family? Can anyone help with the parents of William? Thank you for any help. Fran

    02/24/2005 04:56:45
    1. Fw: {not a subscriber} Opdyke Burials - Washington Cemetery
    2. Al Sinclair
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Eckhardt" <kim_eckhardt@yahoo.com> To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:17 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Opdyke Burials - Washington Cemetery > Hi. > > Going through this cemetery listings, there are many Opdyke(s) buried in this cemetery. > > Opdycke, Belle18741948FOpdyke, Anna18781951wife of Charles H. OpdykeCOpdyke, Archibald C.18521942DOpdyke, Bartron S.18811958IOpdyke, Belle C.18621921wife of Jacob W. SnyderIOpdyke, Benj.18361919VeteranBUOpdyke, C. Wesley4/3/19079/3/1907son of C.H. & A.E. OpdykeCOpdyke, Caroline J.18641898wife of Sering B. OpdykeCOpdyke, Charles H.18781936COpdyke, Clarence18931894son of W.B. & A.E. OpdykeCOpdyke, Elizabeth18731905wife of Chris C. ColeBLOpdyke, Elizabeth18361912wife of Samuel OpdykeBLOpdyke, Elizabeth J.19061976BLOpdyke, Ellen C.11/2/18501/6/1927wife of Johnson D. WagnerEOpdyke, Eugene W.18731925husband of Catherine M. Smith BLOpdyke, Frank P.18521881COpdyke, George T.18281868BUOpdyke, Herbert A.18821932DOpdyke, Idella B.1905JOpdyke, Jacob H.19041962JOpdyke, Jennie N.18891930DOpdyke, John9/3/188874,8,15husband of Mary PettyBUOpdyke, Josephine18541943BLOpdyke, Katherine A.18831965IOpdyke, Kenneth O.19101972IOpdyke, L. Electra18651948EOpdyke, Margaret J.18601939DOpdyke, > Nettie2/21/18731/10/1901BUOpdyke, RhodaNo datesCOpdyke, Rosella8/18/186212/13/1907wife of Lemuel C. ColeAOpdyke, Samuel Jr.18591932COpdyke, Samuel R.10/12/18384/4/1912husband of Sarah J. CarlingBUOpdyke, Samuel10/5/18326/18/1903BLOpdyke, Sarah E.18651939COpdyke, Sarah Jane18251880wife of Frank P. OpdykeCOpdyke, Sering B.18611933COpdyke, William18231890COpdyke, Zelda V.19131987I > > http://raub-and-more.com/washcem/n2o.html. > > Laurance, there are also several Lance(s) buried there but I assume that you have already seen those. If not, follow the above link to the "L" listings. > > Kim Eckhardt > Fredericksburg, VA > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. > >

    02/24/2005 04:37:41
    1. Fw: {not a subscriber} Re: Kitchen Burials
    2. Al Sinclair
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Eckhardt" <kim_eckhardt@yahoo.com> To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:09 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: Kitchen Burials > Hi. > > I was going through the cemetery listings and saw some listings for a few Kitchen surnames. Here they are: > > Kitchen, Dorothy18741946Wife of George KitchenDKitchen, George C.19081925son of George & Dorothy KitchenDKitchen, George H. M.D.18421928 > > They were on Jan Reuther's site. http://raub-and-more.com/washcem/k.html > > I hope that this helps someone! > > Kim Eckhardt > Fredericksburg, VA > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. > >

    02/24/2005 04:36:55
    1. Re: [NJHUNTER] Anderson, DAR
    2. Al Sinclair
    3. Folks, This list is not a place to discuss the DAR in any shape or form. If you want to talk about the DAR, go somewhere else. The discussion on this topic is over as of now. Al Sinclair List Administrator

    02/24/2005 03:15:46
    1. Anderson, DAR
    2. Runyan, Fuller
    3. Ugh. Howard University booked the hall for a Easter Sunday recital in 1939. The hall managers found out Anderson was black. The booking was rejected. Incidentally, Central High School (all white) also rejected an application for its much smaller auditorium, so such inane policies were common. So, with the help of Mrs. Roosevelt and Secretary Ickes, Anderson gave the concert to 75,000 at the Lincoln Memorial. Sorry to keep this thread going, but you all know that it is not helpful to rewrite history, the actual story is always much more interesting and useful. The great actor Ossie Davis, who died last week, was actually involved in this episode - he was as student at Howard at the time. Incidentally, and I'd have to look it up, but I believe that the group that ended up using the hall that night was the National Symphony Orchestra, but if so, I have a feeling their crowd was a bit off... Bottom line is DAR regrets it, has never tried to whitewash it, and has gone on to make tremendous contributions in the intervening years, in many facets, including a concert by Anderson in 1964. Welcome to the group. fsr -----Original Message----- From: Susan Pena [mailto:sweetsue63@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:34 AM To: NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJHUNTER] Fw: My John Opdyke Ancestor This was my first posting on this web and I would like to comment on this Marion Anderson situation, since it was brought up by someone who has a problem with the DAR because of it. Although it had nothing to do with my posting, this is the scoop -- in defense of the DAR who does much and always has, for our great United States of America and it's citizens in the areas of education, preserving history and patriotism ... Marion Anderson wanted to sing at Constitution Hall in Washington, DC owned and operated by the DAR, for those who don't know. For at least 40+ years, many graduations were held by the area high schools at this facility because there was no larger place in the Washington area, as told to me by cousins living there who graduated at Constitution Hall. The hall was booked on the evening that Anderson had asked to sing. The news media of the day reported that it was because she was black that she was not being allowed to sing there. This was before integration came in. The DAR offered her another date to sing there and she refused. The DAR took a bum rap for this situation. It was never a race issue, not even in the day when that seemed to be the norm. She declined the invitation. Yes, I believe too that "racism" is a subject that should be put to rest. The people running DAR are not even the same people who were running it in those days and our country was different. Hopefully we have changed for the good today and are continuing to be good Americans to everyone. I live in the south, so I know about racism and segregation. I have a good friend who is black also. The DAR, because it is a wonderful society, has graciously tried to correct this situation that it was unjustly blamed for and I think that speaks volumes. Now, let us get on with it and be proud that there are some organizations in the United States who are still working for patriotism, education and the preserving of American History. Yes, also my spell checker did pick up the word "heresy" instead of "heresay" and I'm glad someone noticed it. Thanks! I was distracted and missed the mistake but I'm glad someone here can spell too. Hope this helps. Have a great day and thanks to everyone who was kind and gave me suggestions concerning my posting and question. I'm very grateful for you. Susan Pena Texas ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== Visit the Updated Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

    02/24/2005 02:29:29
    1. Re: [NJHUNTER] John Opdyke Inquiry - Headquarters
    2. Susan Pena
    3. Yes, George Washington was believed to have been in Headquarters, NJ, which was a town in that day near Sand Brook and Sergeantsville, between Dec. 5, 1776 (when he retreated from New Brunswick to the Delaware River,) and Christmas following, (when he fought the battle of Trenton) -- quote from page 221 of "Op Dyck Genealogy." If anyone knows where this info might be in the George Washington diaries and where I can get that info, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your help, Marfy Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marfy Goodspeed" <marfy.goodspeed@verizon.net> To: <NJHUNTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:03 AM Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] John Opdyke Inquiry - Headquarters > Just to clarify--the "Washington Headquarters" referred to below was in > Lambertville, NJ. > Marfy Goodspeed > > At 12:39 AM 2/24/2005, you wrote: >>This is from: >>http://www.newhopepa.com/Lambertville/lam_hist_Gallagher_2.htm >> >>HEADQUARTERS NEAR CORYELL'S, June 22d, 1778. >>To Major General Arnold, >>SIR: -- I leave the honor to inform you, that I am now in New Jersey, and >>that nearly all of the troops have passed safely across the river, at >>Coryell's. The latest intelligence I have, respecting the enemy, was >>yesterday, from Gen. Dickinson, who said, they were, on that morning, at >>"Mount Holly" and at "Morristown," but that he has not been able to learn >>what route they would take from thence; nor was it easy to determine the >>matter from their situation. They will either proceed to South Amboy, or >>by way of "Brunswick." We have been a good deal impeded in our march by >>rainy weather. As soon as we have cleaned the "arms," and can get matters >>on train, we propose moving towards Princeton, in order to avail ourselves >>of any favorable occasions that may present themselves, for attacking or >>engaging the enemy. I have the honor to be writing to Major General >>Arnold. GEORGE WASHINGTON. >>When the soldiers again took up their line of march, it was through a >>valley, between two heavily timbered hills. That valley is now known to us >>as "The Hook." The road was at the foot of the north hill, crossed "Swan's >>Creek," then ascended the "Old Saw-mill Road" to the high ground, or >>"Farmers' Highway," which was a steep ascent. Following this route the >>army reached "Hopewell," where they again rested. The onward march from >>there was to "Rocky Hill," "Kingston," Cranbury, and then to Monmouth, >>where they overtook the enemy and fought that memorable battle, June 28th. >> >>The statement regarding the army while here is unquestionably correct, as >>the writer heard it from the lips of an aged man -- the son of Captain >>George Coryell, and grandson of Emanuel, at whose house some of the >>officers were entertained, he being at the time a lad presumably twelve or >>fourteen years of age. >> >>Washington, with other officers, was quartered at Richard Holcombe's, in >>the ancient mansion we know as "Washington's Headquarters." >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "john newman" <johnfnewman@yahoo.com> >> >>>Does the family tradition give a timeframe when Washington may have been >>>there? >> >> >>==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== >>This mail list is archived at: >>http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > > > ==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== > This mail list is archived at: > http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

    02/24/2005 12:45:16
    1. Re: [NJHUNTER] Marian Anderson and DAR
    2. I am a registrar for DAR and I know of no one who has ever been turned away and is eligible for membership. I don't know where we would be without that library in Washington. It has helped so many prove their lineage--whether for DAR membership or their own personal satisfaction. DAR sponsors five schools for underprivledged children, promotes patriotism, gives scholarships to anyone who qualifies, is leading the way to promote the heritage of those whose black ancestors served in the American Revolution. You are free to think whatever you like, but those days of the Marian Anderson incident are gone. Judy Arthur

    02/24/2005 12:41:59
    1. Fw: My John Opdyke Ancestor
    2. Susan Pena
    3. This was my first posting on this web and I would like to comment on this Marion Anderson situation, since it was brought up by someone who has a problem with the DAR because of it. Although it had nothing to do with my posting, this is the scoop -- in defense of the DAR who does much and always has, for our great United States of America and it's citizens in the areas of education, preserving history and patriotism ... Marion Anderson wanted to sing at Constitution Hall in Washington, DC owned and operated by the DAR, for those who don't know. For at least 40+ years, many graduations were held by the area high schools at this facility because there was no larger place in the Washington area, as told to me by cousins living there who graduated at Constitution Hall. The hall was booked on the evening that Anderson had asked to sing. The news media of the day reported that it was because she was black that she was not being allowed to sing there. This was before integration came in. The DAR offered her another date to sing there and she refused. The DAR took a bum rap for this situation. It was never a race issue, not even in the day when that seemed to be the norm. She declined the invitation. Yes, I believe too that "racism" is a subject that should be put to rest. The people running DAR are not even the same people who were running it in those days and our country was different. Hopefully we have changed for the good today and are continuing to be good Americans to everyone. I live in the south, so I know about racism and segregation. I have a good friend who is black also. The DAR, because it is a wonderful society, has graciously tried to correct this situation that it was unjustly blamed for and I think that speaks volumes. Now, let us get on with it and be proud that there are some organizations in the United States who are still working for patriotism, education and the preserving of American History. Yes, also my spell checker did pick up the word "heresy" instead of "heresay" and I'm glad someone noticed it. Thanks! I was distracted and missed the mistake but I'm glad someone here can spell too. Hope this helps. Have a great day and thanks to everyone who was kind and gave me suggestions concerning my posting and question. I'm very grateful for you. Susan Pena Texas

    02/24/2005 12:33:33
    1. Re: [NJHUNTER] John Opdyke Inquiry - Headquarters
    2. Marfy Goodspeed
    3. Just to clarify--the "Washington Headquarters" referred to below was in Lambertville, NJ. Marfy Goodspeed At 12:39 AM 2/24/2005, you wrote: >This is from: http://www.newhopepa.com/Lambertville/lam_hist_Gallagher_2.htm > >HEADQUARTERS NEAR CORYELL'S, June 22d, 1778. >To Major General Arnold, >SIR: -- I leave the honor to inform you, that I am now in New Jersey, and >that nearly all of the troops have passed safely across the river, at >Coryell's. The latest intelligence I have, respecting the enemy, was >yesterday, from Gen. Dickinson, who said, they were, on that morning, at >"Mount Holly" and at "Morristown," but that he has not been able to learn >what route they would take from thence; nor was it easy to determine the >matter from their situation. They will either proceed to South Amboy, or >by way of "Brunswick." We have been a good deal impeded in our march by >rainy weather. As soon as we have cleaned the "arms," and can get matters >on train, we propose moving towards Princeton, in order to avail ourselves >of any favorable occasions that may present themselves, for attacking or >engaging the enemy. I have the honor to be writing to Major General >Arnold. GEORGE WASHINGTON. >When the soldiers again took up their line of march, it was through a >valley, between two heavily timbered hills. That valley is now known to us >as "The Hook." The road was at the foot of the north hill, crossed "Swan's >Creek," then ascended the "Old Saw-mill Road" to the high ground, or >"Farmers' Highway," which was a steep ascent. Following this route the >army reached "Hopewell," where they again rested. The onward march from >there was to "Rocky Hill," "Kingston," Cranbury, and then to Monmouth, >where they overtook the enemy and fought that memorable battle, June 28th. > >The statement regarding the army while here is unquestionably correct, as >the writer heard it from the lips of an aged man -- the son of Captain >George Coryell, and grandson of Emanuel, at whose house some of the >officers were entertained, he being at the time a lad presumably twelve or >fourteen years of age. > >Washington, with other officers, was quartered at Richard Holcombe's, in >the ancient mansion we know as "Washington's Headquarters." > >----- Original Message ----- From: "john newman" <johnfnewman@yahoo.com> > >>Does the family tradition give a timeframe when Washington may have been >>there? > > >==== NJHUNTER Mailing List ==== >This mail list is archived at: >http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/index/NJHUNTER > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

    02/24/2005 12:03:24
    1. Re: [NJHUNTER] Marian Anderson and DAR
    2. Lynne
    3. > "I stand before you today wishing that history could be re-written, > knowing > that it cannot, and assuring you that DAR has learned from the past." The DAR performs a valuable genealogical service for all of us by maintaining genealogical records on its members. They require that all applications be on acid-free paper and are more scrupulous now, I gather, about proofs of descendancy. However, in order to underscore that statement that the DAR has, indeed, "learned from the past" I feel they must expunge from their application the requirement that "the applicant is personally acceptable to the Society." I will feel that that they have learned from the past when membership is open to anyone who proves descendancy from a patriot -- or even if they can't but want to be a pert of this patriotic organization. I see no harm in opening membership to anyone and having different classes of members (as most organizations do), some of whom descend from patriots from the Revolutionary War and some who descend from patriots who fought for our country in other ways and other wars. Lynne

    02/23/2005 08:25:59