Perry, New Jersey Index of Wills, Inventories, Etc., Vol II, p 752 Smith, Asher, 8527J, Will 1884, Inventory I884 Smith, Asher, 9080 J, Inventory 1889 Mike Morrissey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Perry Streeter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "Michael Morrissey" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:46 PM Subject: 3 Asher SMITHs (esp. ca. 1805-1880+); Bethlehem & Union Townships I am a direct descendant of Robert & Jemima (-----) SMITH of Bethlehem Township. For details on this family, please see... http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~streeter/smith-robert.pdf One of my cousins had an excellent suggestion for potentially determining the maiden name of Jemima (-----) SMITH by locating the death certificate of one her younger children. One of the best candidates is the youngest son with the distinctive name of Asher SMITH. However, there were actually two men bearing this name in Hunterdon County and any help in shortening the list, or narrowing the number of years to be searched, before paying death certificate search fees would be greatly appreciated! In the 1850 census of Bethlehem, Hunterdon, NJ there are two households with an Asher SMITH as head of household. The older one was most likely the son of Robert & Jemima (-----) SMITH: 1) Asher Smith, age 45, p 229B [b. circa 1805] Martha, age 45 Steven, age 21 Elizabeth, age 19 John, age 18 Estha (?) M., age 12 Martha, age 11 Mary, age 7 *He died sometime after 1880* *When?* *His death record may reveal the maiden name of Jemima (-----) SMITH* However, there another potential match for the son of Robert and Jemima (-----) SMITH: 2) Asher Smith, age 40, p 237A [b. circa 1810] Mary Ann, age 31 Augustus K., age 10 Mary E., age 8 John, age 4 Alexander, age 1 In addition to being younger, Asher Smith (b. circa 1810) is a less likely match for the son of Robert and Jemima (-----) SMITH because, in the 1840 census, he lived next door to yet a third Asher Smith who was probably his father and who was too old to have been the son of Robert and Jemima (-----) SMITH. Asher Smith (b. ca 1810) married Mary Ann Stires on 4 Dec 1838 and lived in Union Township after it was split off from Bethlehem Township in 1853. Asher Smith (b. ca. 1810) lived until 1884 (see notice below). http://njsuttonfamily.org/Newspaper/jan1884.htm >From the Hunterdon Democrat: October 21, 1884, Forty-Seventh Volume, No. 10 <snip> Mr. Asher Smith, an old and highly esteemed citizen of Union township, died on Friday morning, 10th inst., from an attack of paralysis, while visiting with his son, near Frenchtown. Thank you for any help! Perry www.perry.streeter.com

I am a direct descendant of Robert & Jemima (-----) SMITH of Bethlehem Township. For details on this family, please see... http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~streeter/smith-robert.pdf One of my cousins had an excellent suggestion for potentially determining the maiden name of Jemima (-----) SMITH by locating the death certificate of one her younger children. One of the best candidates is the youngest son with the distinctive name of Asher SMITH. However, there were actually two men bearing this name in Hunterdon County and any help in shortening the list, or narrowing the number of years to be searched, before paying death certificate search fees would be greatly appreciated! In the 1850 census of Bethlehem, Hunterdon, NJ there are two households with an Asher SMITH as head of household. The older one was most likely the son of Robert & Jemima (-----) SMITH: 1) Asher Smith, age 45, p 229B [b. circa 1805] Martha, age 45 Steven, age 21 Elizabeth, age 19 John, age 18 Estha (?) M., age 12 Martha, age 11 Mary, age 7 *He died sometime after 1880* *When?* *His death record may reveal the maiden name of Jemima (-----) SMITH* However, there another potential match for the son of Robert and Jemima (-----) SMITH: 2) Asher Smith, age 40, p 237A [b. circa 1810] Mary Ann, age 31 Augustus K., age 10 Mary E., age 8 John, age 4 Alexander, age 1 In addition to being younger, Asher Smith (b. circa 1810) is a less likely match for the son of Robert and Jemima (-----) SMITH because, in the 1840 census, he lived next door to yet a third Asher Smith who was probably his father and who was too old to have been the son of Robert and Jemima (-----) SMITH. Asher Smith (b. ca 1810) married Mary Ann Stires on 4 Dec 1838 and lived in Union Township after it was split off from Bethlehem Township in 1853. Asher Smith (b. ca. 1810) lived until 1884 (see notice below). http://njsuttonfamily.org/Newspaper/jan1884.htm >From the Hunterdon Democrat: October 21, 1884, Forty-Seventh Volume, No. 10 <snip> Mr. Asher Smith, an old and highly esteemed citizen of Union township, died on Friday morning, 10th inst., from an attack of paralysis, while visiting with his son, near Frenchtown. Thank you for any help! Perry www.perry.streeter.com

Just a couple thoughts. Check the records of the Zion Lutheran Church in Oldwick (New Germantown) NJ. It's the only Lutheran church in the county in the 18th century, and Muhlenberg did visit there. Secondly, I can't help but wonder if "Renn" might not be "Hann" or "Bunn". Both those families were early settlers in northern Hunterdon County. Marfy On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Helen Graves <[email protected]> wrote: > I want to thank Bob Kitchen and Bill Boscia for such quick replies to my > question. I think you guys are right... "Musquenickung" probably is > referencing somewhere along the Musconetcong River in NJ. The "and > Raritan" > probably meant a settlement/community/area along the South Branch of the > Raritan River as close as possible to a settlement/community in 1758 along > the Musconetcong River. > > I have googled both river names and have been reading about both rivers. > With my trusty old atlas, I have been able to locate both rivers in New > Jersey. Now I have some bearings of where this 1758 baptism in New Jersey > may have taken place (the baptisms was entered in the Augustus Evangelical > Lutheran Church > of Trappe, PA, which are the church records of the Rev. Henry Melchoir > Muhlenberg, under the > heading "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan".) > > It seems to me that Hunterdon Co.. north and northeast of the > Frenchtown-Milford area is where I should be looking for 1758 > settlements/communities to see if I can find mention of the surname RENN, > which was the mother's maiden name. Sponsors for the baptism were Herr > Johannes Fleisher and his wife Eva Margretha. I do not know who these > people are. > > The name of the baby who was baptized in March 1758 was J. Adam Croesman > (Crissman). His father was J. George (the Saddler) Croesman; his mother > was > Anna Margaretha Renn. > > In 1758, the Croesman's lived near Trappe, PA, and were actually neighbors > of the Rev. Muhlenberg. Prior to 1758, J.George (the Saddler) Croesman > had > sold the Rev. Muhlenberg some land which he in turn gave to the church. > The > Croesman's were members of the Trappe Church which is why I am wondering > why > their 8th child's baptism appears in the church records as being under the > sub-title for the Augustus church records as: "New Jersey Baptisms at > Musquenickung and Raritan". > > Adam Croesman (aka Crissman after 1790) who was born in February 1758 and > baptized in March 1758, was not the Croesman's first child. He was their > 8th > child. February and March were winter months; I am wondering if for some > reason the Croesman's traveled from Trappe, crossed the Delaware, and went > to one of the mother's Renn relatives in Hunterdon Co., NJ (her parents?) > in > late 1757 for the February birth and March baptism. > > All I know about the mother's parents is a reference in the Muhlenberg > Journals to her brother J. Michael Renn, son of Leanhardt Renn of New > Jersey. I have no idea where in NJ Leanhardt Renn lived, so this baptism > might be a clue that he lived in Hunterdon Co. somewhere in the area of > the > Musconetcong River and S. Branch of the Raritan. > > Anyone have suggestions? > > Helen Graves > > > > > > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enjhunter> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Two other places that might be able to help with the information/names on the baptismal certificate: 1) Lutheran Theological Seminary Library; Germantown Ave.; Philadelphia, PA 2) Pennsylvania German Cultural Heritage Center library -- (484)646-4172 or [email protected] Good luck! Bob Kitchen Helen Graves <[email protected]> wrote: Can anyone shed light on this baptism location? The source for the 1758 baptism of Johan Adam Croesman (Crissman/Cressman) is "Records of Augustus Evangelical Lutheran Church in Trappe, PA" published in PA German Society Proceedings, Vol. 4, p. 226 under the heading of "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan". In 1758, Trappe, PA, was in an area of Philadelphia County that became Montgomery Co. The minister of the the old Lutheran church at Trappe was the Rev. Muhlenberg. The parents of J. Adam Croesman were J. George (the Saddler) Croesman and Anna Margaretha Renn. They lived near Trappe. It would seem likely that their baby would be baptized by their minister at Trappe (that was their church). However, the additional notation that the baptism was under the heading "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan" has me puzzled. I tried googling Musquenickung and got nothing. I found a Raritan in NJ, but I am not sure it is the right Raritan. In 1758, was there a place called Musquenickung in Old Hunterdon County? Was Raritan in Old Hunterdon County? And did the Rev. Muhlenberg of Trappe, PA, travel to these places to conduct baptisms for the babies born to his Trappe members? Helen Graves -- who is researching J. George 'the Saddler' Croesman who lived near Trappe, PA, in 1758 and his wife Anna Margaretha Renn, who was probably from New Jersey. All I know about her is she was the daughter of a Leanardt Renn "of New Jersey". Have no idea where he lived in NJ but now suspect a place called Musquenickung or near Raritan due to this baptism entry. Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Hi, It may be Musconetcong. That is the name of the river. I don't know if it was also a place name now or then. Raritan is and was a river also. So it may be settlements along both rivers. If it does mean the rivers the Raritan settlements would probably be on the south branch. Bill Boscia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Graves" <[email protected]> To: "NJ Hunterdon Co." <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:11 PM Subject: [NJHUNTER] 1758 baptisms at Musquenickung and Raritan? Can anyone shed light on this baptism location? The source for the 1758 baptism of Johan Adam Croesman (Crissman/Cressman) is "Records of Augustus Evangelical Lutheran Church in Trappe, PA" published in PA German Society Proceedings, Vol. 4, p. 226 under the heading of "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan". In 1758, Trappe, PA, was in an area of Philadelphia County that became Montgomery Co. The minister of the the old Lutheran church at Trappe was the Rev. Muhlenberg. The parents of J. Adam Croesman were J. George (the Saddler) Croesman and Anna Margaretha Renn. They lived near Trappe. It would seem likely that their baby would be baptized by their minister at Trappe (that was their church). However, the additional notation that the baptism was under the heading "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan" has me puzzled. I tried googling Musquenickung and got nothing. I found a Raritan in NJ, but I am not sure it is the right Raritan. In 1758, was there a place called Musquenickung in Old Hunterdon County? Was Raritan in Old Hunterdon County? And did the Rev. Muhlenberg of Trappe, PA, travel to these places to conduct baptisms for the babies born to his Trappe members? Helen Graves -- who is researching J. George 'the Saddler' Croesman who lived near Trappe, PA, in 1758 and his wife Anna Margaretha Renn, who was probably from New Jersey. All I know about her is she was the daughter of a Leanardt Renn "of New Jersey". Have no idea where he lived in NJ but now suspect a place called Musquenickung or near Raritan due to this baptism entry. Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I want to thank Bob Kitchen and Bill Boscia for such quick replies to my question. I think you guys are right... "Musquenickung" probably is referencing somewhere along the Musconetcong River in NJ. The "and Raritan" probably meant a settlement/community/area along the South Branch of the Raritan River as close as possible to a settlement/community in 1758 along the Musconetcong River. I have googled both river names and have been reading about both rivers. With my trusty old atlas, I have been able to locate both rivers in New Jersey. Now I have some bearings of where this 1758 baptism in New Jersey may have taken place (the baptisms was entered in the Augustus Evangelical Lutheran Church of Trappe, PA, which are the church records of the Rev. Henry Melchoir Muhlenberg, under the heading "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan".) It seems to me that Hunterdon Co.. north and northeast of the Frenchtown-Milford area is where I should be looking for 1758 settlements/communities to see if I can find mention of the surname RENN, which was the mother's maiden name. Sponsors for the baptism were Herr Johannes Fleisher and his wife Eva Margretha. I do not know who these people are. The name of the baby who was baptized in March 1758 was J. Adam Croesman (Crissman). His father was J. George (the Saddler) Croesman; his mother was Anna Margaretha Renn. In 1758, the Croesman's lived near Trappe, PA, and were actually neighbors of the Rev. Muhlenberg. Prior to 1758, J.George (the Saddler) Croesman had sold the Rev. Muhlenberg some land which he in turn gave to the church. The Croesman's were members of the Trappe Church which is why I am wondering why their 8th child's baptism appears in the church records as being under the sub-title for the Augustus church records as: "New Jersey Baptisms at Musquenickung and Raritan". Adam Croesman (aka Crissman after 1790) who was born in February 1758 and baptized in March 1758, was not the Croesman's first child. He was their 8th child. February and March were winter months; I am wondering if for some reason the Croesman's traveled from Trappe, crossed the Delaware, and went to one of the mother's Renn relatives in Hunterdon Co., NJ (her parents?) in late 1757 for the February birth and March baptism. All I know about the mother's parents is a reference in the Muhlenberg Journals to her brother J. Michael Renn, son of Leanhardt Renn of New Jersey. I have no idea where in NJ Leanhardt Renn lived, so this baptism might be a clue that he lived in Hunterdon Co. somewhere in the area of the Musconetcong River and S. Branch of the Raritan. Anyone have suggestions? Helen Graves

Helen, While this is not my family, I do know a little about Henry Melchior Muhlenberg, "The father of Lutheranism in America". He traveled from Georgia to New York state in establishing congregations or in placing the first pastors in them. Muhlenberg brought the pastor who served my gggg grandfather's congregation (in Berks County, PA) to that church (from Germany). So, he could have baptized in New Jersey. Also, is it possible that the word you need with Raritan is Musquenetcong? There is a river in New Jersey by that name, and it came from the Native Americans. Hope this helps somewhat. Bob Kitchen Helen Graves <[email protected]> wrote: Can anyone shed light on this baptism location? The source for the 1758 baptism of Johan Adam Croesman (Crissman/Cressman) is "Records of Augustus Evangelical Lutheran Church in Trappe, PA" published in PA German Society Proceedings, Vol. 4, p. 226 under the heading of "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan". In 1758, Trappe, PA, was in an area of Philadelphia County that became Montgomery Co. The minister of the the old Lutheran church at Trappe was the Rev. Muhlenberg. The parents of J. Adam Croesman were J. George (the Saddler) Croesman and Anna Margaretha Renn. They lived near Trappe. It would seem likely that their baby would be baptized by their minister at Trappe (that was their church). However, the additional notation that the baptism was under the heading "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan" has me puzzled. I tried googling Musquenickung and got nothing. I found a Raritan in NJ, but I am not sure it is the right Raritan. In 1758, was there a place called Musquenickung in Old Hunterdon County? Was Raritan in Old Hunterdon County? And did the Rev. Muhlenberg of Trappe, PA, travel to these places to conduct baptisms for the babies born to his Trappe members? Helen Graves -- who is researching J. George 'the Saddler' Croesman who lived near Trappe, PA, in 1758 and his wife Anna Margaretha Renn, who was probably from New Jersey. All I know about her is she was the daughter of a Leanardt Renn "of New Jersey". Have no idea where he lived in NJ but now suspect a place called Musquenickung or near Raritan due to this baptism entry. Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Can anyone shed light on this baptism location? The source for the 1758 baptism of Johan Adam Croesman (Crissman/Cressman) is "Records of Augustus Evangelical Lutheran Church in Trappe, PA" published in PA German Society Proceedings, Vol. 4, p. 226 under the heading of "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan". In 1758, Trappe, PA, was in an area of Philadelphia County that became Montgomery Co. The minister of the the old Lutheran church at Trappe was the Rev. Muhlenberg. The parents of J. Adam Croesman were J. George (the Saddler) Croesman and Anna Margaretha Renn. They lived near Trappe. It would seem likely that their baby would be baptized by their minister at Trappe (that was their church). However, the additional notation that the baptism was under the heading "Baptisms in New Jersey at Musquenickung and Raritan" has me puzzled. I tried googling Musquenickung and got nothing. I found a Raritan in NJ, but I am not sure it is the right Raritan. In 1758, was there a place called Musquenickung in Old Hunterdon County? Was Raritan in Old Hunterdon County? And did the Rev. Muhlenberg of Trappe, PA, travel to these places to conduct baptisms for the babies born to his Trappe members? Helen Graves -- who is researching J. George 'the Saddler' Croesman who lived near Trappe, PA, in 1758 and his wife Anna Margaretha Renn, who was probably from New Jersey. All I know about her is she was the daughter of a Leanardt Renn "of New Jersey". Have no idea where he lived in NJ but now suspect a place called Musquenickung or near Raritan due to this baptism entry.

Melva, I had a copy of this book in my hands last month. But my library doesn't own it, so I had to get it through inter-library loan (ILL), even though it was published only ten miles away. I can't remember now which library it came from, but there are libraries out there that will lend it. You have to go through your local library and ask them to get it for you. Leslie Moore Reference Librarian ________________________________ From: [email protected] on behalf of mcalaman Sent: Fri 2/22/2008 9:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NJHUNTER] Lookup Does anyone on the list have a copy of Marriage Bonds of Ontario 1803-1834 published by Hunterdon House, Lambertville, NJ ? On page 294, there is supposed to be a reference to Ashley Hackett of Grimsby, Ontario in 1833 and I would like to find out what it says about him. I'll gladly pay, if anyone has access and could enlighten me. Thank you ! Melva Calaman Sabinsville, Pa. Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Roz, thanks for bringing the family connections in Germany and then Hunterdon to our attention. I am interested in this family grouping and this may eventually help. I have seen in my own German ancestors that migrated in the mid 19th century, that family groups moved to St. Louis and then several years later to farming communities in the rural outskirts where land was available. A prominent German records scholar, author, and genealogy lecturer, Roger P. Minert, articulates that it was common in Germany that when someone with a common name like Johann Schmidt moved to another locality they might use the name Johann Schmidt aus Anhuizen, or whatever the town was named, to differentiate themselves from others of the same name. Eventually, the Meier would be dropped and they would simply use the name of the family's former location. It happens several times in his own family. I can't guess whether this is the case that you discuss, or as you say, the genealogist misread the document, but it something to consider as a possiblity. Dan Vornberg **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

I think I missed the beginning of this thread. What was the question or comment re YOUNG's of Hunterdon Co. NJ?? Thank you pat cw I have MILLS who married YOUNG also, and related other family members, lateral lines followed MILLS etc. What was the time Frame also? Maybe I missed that one also. In a message dated 2/24/2008 8:43:15 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > So, this mtDNA testing has confirmed my research, and confirmed the > obvious that Peter Young was from Germany. I'm not following. Can you please explain that further. -- Marshall Lake -- [email protected] -- http://mlake.net Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Just thought I’d toss this into the discussion, although it has nothing to do with the topic of DNA. I have no direct ancestral connection to the JUNG (YOUNG) or HUFFMAN families who inhabited the Hunterdon Co NJ area beginning circa 1745-ish, but I follow them closely as these families attended the same church back in Germany as my BELLESFELT ancestors. Some of the BELLESFELT branches married into these two families here in America and possibly had even intermarried back in Germany. This online database contains information (which I cannot confirm) regarding the JUNG family who associated with the BELLESFELTS: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=dougfritts&id=I1387 Notice that Henrich JUNG lived in a village called Anhausen and that many of his descendants ended up in Hunterdon Co NJ. This online database has info, which I also cannot confirm, on a Harmon HUFFMAN whose son Johannes married a woman named Margite Anhuys ANHUIZEN and that this couple ended up in Hunterdon Co NJ: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=alberthart&id=I2548 I would venture to guess that the surname of Margite, wife of Johannes HUFFMAN, was probably NOT Anhuizen but rather that Anhuizen represents the name of the village (Anhausen) where Margite lived and that perhaps a genealogist along the way has misinterpreted the church records. The village of Anhausen is located within the district of Neuwied. Johannes HUFFMAN was, according to the database, born in Neuwied. If these databases contain correct lineage information and my guess is right about Margite’s surname, then perhaps these JUNGs and HUFFMANs of Hunterdon Co NJ knew each other’s families back in Germany. Food for thought, anyway! Roz BELLIS Alexandria VA From: David Hoffman <[email protected]> Date: 2008/02/22 Fri PM 02:04:26 CST To: Hunterdon List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Hunterdon DNA The DNA for my Hoffmans, who are from Virginia and not Hunterdon County, indicates that I'm probably not related to any other Hoffmans in the area where they lived. Instead of concentrating on a male Hoffman, I think I need to focus more on female Hoffmans. My thinking is that my first Hoffman (b. c. 1804) was born out of wedlock and the genetic material of another surname has been passed down. I belong to haploid group G, which I've not seen in any others of my surname. Of course, I'd love to see what the Hunterdon Co Hoffman lines are like. At this point, everything is in the realm of the possible. Incidentally, I'm descended as well from Peter Young (Jung) but have, as yet, done virtually nothing with this line. David Hoffman On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:34 -0800 (PST), "john newman" <[email protected]> said: > I was wondering if any people on this list have done it; and if so, I'd > be interest in your experiences. > > I have done both the Y (which is the male line - not from Hunterdon) > and the mitochondrial (which is the female line which came through > Hunterdon). My furthest known maternal ancestor (by which I mean, the > female line all the way up) would be the wife of the German immigrant > Peter Young. > > Anyone out there match? I see that on a website where I submitted my > genetic info that I match with 2 others with Youngs from Hunterdon. > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> So, this mtDNA testing has confirmed my research, and confirmed the > obvious that Peter Young was from Germany. I'm not following. Can you please explain that further. -- Marshall Lake -- [email protected] -- http://mlake.net

As the list is aware, I e-mailed about my mtDNA which went back to the early Youngs of Hunterdon County. Interestingly, I have not investigated the Young family in any amount of detail. When I started genealogy. I was happy to get as many lines back to the Revolution, and followed a few lines further. So what I on the Young family is not much... I followed one family line to John Hoffman , whose wife was Elizabeth Young. Unfortunately I do not have the source for her father. I have his (Peter Young's) dates b.abt 1727-1796. To David Hoffman who responded, small world isn't it - we both have Youngs and Hoffmans in our lines One person that I had a DNA match for responded to my e-mail and stated that she was a first generation citizen and her mother was from the Berlin region of Germany. Another genetic match e-mailed me back that they descend from Sophia Young, b. 1757. Her daughter emmigrated to Canada, and the family has resided their since. So, this mtDNA testing has confirmed my research, and confirmed the obvious that Peter Young was from Germany. Marshall Lake <[email protected]> wrote: > I have done both the Y (which is the male line - not from Hunterdon) and > the mitochondrial (which is the female line which came through > Hunterdon). My furthest known maternal ancestor (by which I mean, the > female line all the way up) would be the wife of the German immigrant > Peter Young. I've done both the Y-DNA and the mtDNA tests. The mtDNA test doesn't have much genealogy relevance but it's interesting none the less. The Y-DNA test has helped me a great deal in proving my LAKE lineage back to the Gravesend LAKEs. (See http://mlake.net/lakedna/ if interested, I'm kit #25424.) Is your Peter YOUNG by chance a child of Henrich YOUNG/JUNG and Elizabetha KUHL (b 1738 Hunterdon Co) ? -- Marshall Lake -- [email protected] -- http://mlake.net --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

> I have done both the Y (which is the male line - not from Hunterdon) and > the mitochondrial (which is the female line which came through > Hunterdon). My furthest known maternal ancestor (by which I mean, the > female line all the way up) would be the wife of the German immigrant > Peter Young. I've done both the Y-DNA and the mtDNA tests. The mtDNA test doesn't have much genealogy relevance but it's interesting none the less. The Y-DNA test has helped me a great deal in proving my LAKE lineage back to the Gravesend LAKEs. (See http://mlake.net/lakedna/ if interested, I'm kit #25424.) Is your Peter YOUNG by chance a child of Henrich YOUNG/JUNG and Elizabetha KUHL (b 1738 Hunterdon Co) ? -- Marshall Lake -- [email protected] -- http://mlake.net

Is your Peter Jung baptized in 1769 at the German Reformed Church Alexandria, Hunterdon? Dan Vornberg **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Does anyone on the list have a copy of Marriage Bonds of Ontario 1803-1834 published by Hunterdon House, Lambertville, NJ ? On page 294, there is supposed to be a reference to Ashley Hackett of Grimsby, Ontario in 1833 and I would like to find out what it says about him. I'll gladly pay, if anyone has access and could enlighten me. Thank you ! Melva Calaman Sabinsville, Pa.

The DNA for my Hoffmans, who are from Virginia and not Hunterdon County, indicates that I'm probably not related to any other Hoffmans in the area where they lived. Instead of concentrating on a male Hoffman, I think I need to focus more on female Hoffmans. My thinking is that my first Hoffman (b. c. 1804) was born out of wedlock and the genetic material of another surname has been passed down. I belong to haploid group G, which I've not seen in any others of my surname. Of course, I'd love to see what the Hunterdon Co Hoffman lines are like. At this point, everything is in the realm of the possible. Incidentally, I'm descended as well from Peter Young (Jung) but have, as yet, done virtually nothing with this line. David Hoffman On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:34 -0800 (PST), "john newman" <[email protected]> said: > I was wondering if any people on this list have done it; and if so, I'd > be interest in your experiences. > > I have done both the Y (which is the male line - not from Hunterdon) > and the mitochondrial (which is the female line which came through > Hunterdon). My furthest known maternal ancestor (by which I mean, the > female line all the way up) would be the wife of the German immigrant > Peter Young. > > Anyone out there match? I see that on a website where I submitted my > genetic info that I match with 2 others with Youngs from Hunterdon. > >

Thanks Bob, This is good to know. I will also contact the Hunterdon County Historical Society. Thanks again, Kimberly Hurst UE "He burned the candle at both ends, so his years were few. But, oh, what a beautiful flame he made." - Alfred Lloyd Tennyson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Kitchen Sent: February-21-08 10:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] LOOKING FOR RICHARD LONDON 1705-1772 Kimberly, According to the Passenger & Immigration Lists Index, 1500-1900's, Richard was 14 years of age when he arrived. So, his birth year was circa 1705. He arrived in Pennsylvania...therefore, probably Philadelphia. Bob Kitchen Kimberly Hurst UE <[email protected]> wrote: Good evening, I am new to the list and starting my search for my 7th great grandfather Richard London. He came to America in 1719 from England and from what we can tell he settled in Hunterdon County, New Jersey before 1728. A cousin was able to find the following: Hunterdon Co. Court of Common Pleas Vol. II page 303. Court session from Aug. 9, 1728. Case # 2845, Ruth Ruckman vs Richard London for defamation which was discontinued. Question: Is there any way to find out what this case was about? So, we know he was there at that time and probably had his family there. A son Bartholomew (my 6th great grandfather), son Richard, son John. He married a woman named Mercy (I don't have any leads on her maiden name as of yet) and there are certainly more children to be found. By 1741 we find him in Pennsylvania where he has property and is operating a ferry service between Upper Black Eddy PA and Milford NJ. I would like to find out: Where in Hunterdon County he was living If there are any church records there for his marriage and birth of his children Are there any land records for this family. Is there anyone who can guide me in the right direction with advice and suggestions. Thanks very much, Kimberly Hurst UE "He burned the candle at both ends, so his years were few. But, oh, what a beautiful flame he made." - Alfred Lloyd Tennyson Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is great, thanks Rita! Kim Kimberly Hurst UE "He burned the candle at both ends, so his years were few. But, oh, what a beautiful flame he made." - Alfred Lloyd Tennyson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rita Chesterton Sent: February-21-08 11:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] LOOKING FOR RICHARD LONDON 1705-1772 BINGO! Richard London is mentioned in this Town and Country magazine article about early Milford, NJ history. It mentions the ferry. http://www.buckscountymagazine.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18461455&BRD=2663&PA G=461&dept_id=614673&rfi=6 from Rita in Hunterdon County, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimberly Hurst UE" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:06 PM Subject: [NJHUNTER] LOOKING FOR RICHARD LONDON 1705-1772 > Good evening, > > > > I am new to the list and starting my search for my 7th great grandfather > Richard London. > > > > He came to America in 1719 from England and from what we can tell he > settled > in Hunterdon County, New Jersey before 1728. > > A cousin was able to find the following: Hunterdon Co. Court of Common > Pleas Vol. II page 303. Court session from Aug. 9, 1728. Case # 2845, Ruth > Ruckman vs Richard London for defamation which was discontinued. Question: > Is there any way to find out what this case was about? > > > > So, we know he was there at that time and probably had his family there. A > son Bartholomew (my 6th great grandfather), son Richard, son John. He > married a woman named Mercy (I don't have any leads on her maiden name as > of > yet) and there are certainly more children to be found. > > > > By 1741 we find him in Pennsylvania where he has property and is operating > a > ferry service between Upper Black Eddy PA and Milford NJ. > > > > I would like to find out: > > > > Where in Hunterdon County he was living > > If there are any church records there for his marriage and birth of his > children > > Are there any land records for this family. > > > > Is there anyone who can guide me in the right direction with advice and > suggestions. > > > > Thanks very much, > > > > > > Kimberly Hurst UE > > > > "He burned the candle at both ends, so his years were few. > But, oh, what a beautiful flame he made." > - Alfred Lloyd Tennyson > > > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message