In checking "Hunterdon County Place Names", by Phyllis B. D'Autrechey, the only thing I come up with is the name Shannock River, which she says is actually the Neshanic River. When you look up Neshanic River, it reads: "This is one of the principal streams of East Amwell Township. The First Neshanic rises west of Flemington and flows in a southerly direction where it is joined by the Second Neshanic which begins near Harmony School Road. The Third Neshanic has its beginning near Sand Brook. It then flows into the other branches near Copper Hill. The three there form the larger Neshanic River whichcrosses into Somerset County south of Clover Hill after being joined by the Back Brook. (RR 1:15; Snell: 351) So Shannock Meeting House might have been a church or meeting house somewhere along the Neshanic River or one of the three branches. But no guarantees. Kay Larsen **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

Does anyone know where Shannock Meeting House is located? It is listed as the location of death in an obituary in 1845 in the Hunterdon Gazette. The only one I come up with when I "google" is in Virginia. Wouldn't the newspaper have added the state of Virginia to the location if it were not local? Thanks for any help. Louise Rorer Rosett [email protected]

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The time frame for my George Duckworth is probably about 1770-1857. He quite possibly died earlier than 1857; perhaps Elizabeth died then, leaving the estate to be partitioned. Thanks so much for all of the help. I do have Duckworth's that ended up in Iowa, so I will check out that information as well. >From Hunterdon County Partitions of Estates County Clerk Book 1: "George Duckworth, dec'd. of Bethlehem Tp. The petitioner, Philip Duckworth. Other heirs, Jane, wife of George Cammeron, John Duckworth, Frederick Duckworth, Else, wife of Peter Oakes, Mary the wife of Charles Leonard, Philip and George Duckworth. Sale ordered. Recorded 11th Dec. 1857. Bk I p. 421" So clearly George had died by 1857. Daughter Mary was born in 1806--so I imagine George was born in the 1770's or 1780's but I haven't been able to track that down yet. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Duckworth/Bellesfelt/Bellis - also saw as BELLESFELD > Yes, my thoughts too. Would like to know your time frame for your > DUCKWORTH > surname. > > Also found recently, not sure how it relates to your surname of > DUCKWORTH. > > > Thomas DUCKWORTH married 1883 Mary Ann MILLS, dau of Samuel MILLS and > Elizabeth HOOVER of North Carolina and Tippecanoe, IN. > > Enoch T DUCKWORTH of Iowa, married 1869 to Syrilda Jane MILLS dau of > William MILLS and Rhoda Delilah LAWSON of Tennessee and Putnam County, > Missouri. > > No, I do not know if these two MILLS families are related to one another. > > Nor, do I know if the two DUCKWORTH families are related either. > > Just happened across these entries, and wished to share. > > Pat > cw > Just in case, it may tie in with your DUCKWORTH's at some point. > > > > > > In a message dated 4/26/2008 4:11:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I find your posting very interesting. What are the dates for George > DUCKWORTH who married Elizabeth Bellis/Bellesfelt? > Thanks, Sally B. > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Sherri McConnell <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Date: 4/26/2008 1:58:37 AM >> Subject: [NJHUNTER] Duckworth/Bellesfelt/Bellis >> >> I recently found an old posting regarding an Elizabeth Bellesfelt who > married George Duckworth. I am a decendant of George and Elizabeth's > daughter Mary and have been trying to find Elizabeth's maiden name for > years. I have the names of the siblings in this family, and they match > exactly the names of the children in the old posting. >> >> Does anyone know where I can find more information about Elizabeth > Bellesfelt? Is she the same person as Elizabeth Bellis (I have seen > reference also to an Elizabeth Bellis married to a George Duckworth) but > have never been able to tie the children together. Also, if the original > poster--David Sherman is still on this list--where did you find the names > of the children--do you have any further information on these lines? >> >> Thank you very much, >> Sherri McConnell >> Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > > **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used > car > listings at AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Sherri: Have you been in contact with Lawson L. "Buddy Duckworth, author of the following? http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/d/u/c/Lawson-L-Duckworth/PDFBOOK1 .pdf And are we Williamson cousins? Cornelis-3 Willemsen/Williamson (Willem-2 Willemsen, Willem-1 Gerritsen) [third son, named in honor of eldest paternal uncle, father having already been honored], b. say 1687; m. Griete Gulick, sister of Catalyntie above. He has been confused with a Cornelis Willemse Cornel who settled in the same area of N.J. Two children [Samuel & Jakementie] known from baptisms. Father of... Jakementie-4 Williamson [named in honor of maternal grandmother], bap 1718 [New Brunswick, NJ RDC with {maternal uncle} Pieter Gulick and {maternal aunt} Jackementie Gulick as sponsors]. {Probably identical with} [Jamima Williamson “spinster” who m. George Duckworth by license dated 26 June 1739 with bondsman {her brother or double first cousin} Joakim Williamson. George-3 Duckworth (William-2, John-1) was the son of William-2 & Grace (_____) Duckworth of New Hanover, Burlington Co., NJ. I have more on their descendants if you're interested. Good luck! Perry | www.perry.streeter.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:58:35 -0700 From: "Sherri McConnell" <[email protected]> Subject: [NJHUNTER] Duckworth/Bellesfelt/Bellis I recently found an old posting regarding an Elizabeth Bellesfelt who married George Duckworth. I am a decendant of George and Elizabeth's daughter Mary and have been trying to find Elizabeth's maiden name for years. I have the names of the siblings in this family, and they match exactly the names of the children in the old posting. Does anyone know where I can find more information about Elizabeth Bellesfelt? Is she the same person as Elizabeth Bellis (I have seen reference also to an Elizabeth Bellis married to a George Duckworth) but have never been able to tie the children together. Also, if the original poster--David Sherman is still on this list--where did you find the names of the children--do you have any further information on these lines? Thank you very much, Sherri McConnell

Yes, my thoughts too. Would like to know your time frame for your DUCKWORTH surname. Also found recently, not sure how it relates to your surname of DUCKWORTH. Thomas DUCKWORTH married 1883 Mary Ann MILLS, dau of Samuel MILLS and Elizabeth HOOVER of North Carolina and Tippecanoe, IN. Enoch T DUCKWORTH of Iowa, married 1869 to Syrilda Jane MILLS dau of William MILLS and Rhoda Delilah LAWSON of Tennessee and Putnam County, Missouri. No, I do not know if these two MILLS families are related to one another. Nor, do I know if the two DUCKWORTH families are related either. Just happened across these entries, and wished to share. Pat cw Just in case, it may tie in with your DUCKWORTH's at some point. In a message dated 4/26/2008 4:11:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I find your posting very interesting. What are the dates for George DUCKWORTH who married Elizabeth Bellis/Bellesfelt? Thanks, Sally B. > [Original Message] > From: Sherri McConnell <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 4/26/2008 1:58:37 AM > Subject: [NJHUNTER] Duckworth/Bellesfelt/Bellis > > I recently found an old posting regarding an Elizabeth Bellesfelt who married George Duckworth. I am a decendant of George and Elizabeth's daughter Mary and have been trying to find Elizabeth's maiden name for years. I have the names of the siblings in this family, and they match exactly the names of the children in the old posting. > > Does anyone know where I can find more information about Elizabeth Bellesfelt? Is she the same person as Elizabeth Bellis (I have seen reference also to an Elizabeth Bellis married to a George Duckworth) but have never been able to tie the children together. Also, if the original poster--David Sherman is still on this list--where did you find the names of the children--do you have any further information on these lines? > > Thank you very much, > Sherri McConnell > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

>From Hunterdon County Partitions of Estates County Clerk Book 1: "George Duckworth, dec'd. of Bethlehem Tp. The petitioner, Philip Duckworth. Other heirs, Jane, wife of George Cammeron, John Duckworth, Frederick Duckworth, Else, wife of Peter Oakes, Mary the wife of Charles Leonard, Philip and George Duckworth. Sale ordered. Recorded 11th Dec. 1857. Bk I p. 421" So clearly George had died by 1857. Daughter Mary was born in 1806--so I imagine George was born in the 1770's or 1780's but I haven't been able to track that down yet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Floyd Bailey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:10 AM Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Duckworth/Bellesfelt/Bellis >I find your posting very interesting. What are the dates for George > DUCKWORTH who married Elizabeth Bellis/Bellesfelt? > Thanks, Sally B. > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Sherri McConnell <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Date: 4/26/2008 1:58:37 AM >> Subject: [NJHUNTER] Duckworth/Bellesfelt/Bellis >> >> I recently found an old posting regarding an Elizabeth Bellesfelt who > married George Duckworth. I am a decendant of George and Elizabeth's > daughter Mary and have been trying to find Elizabeth's maiden name for > years. I have the names of the siblings in this family, and they match > exactly the names of the children in the old posting. >> >> Does anyone know where I can find more information about Elizabeth > Bellesfelt? Is she the same person as Elizabeth Bellis (I have seen > reference also to an Elizabeth Bellis married to a George Duckworth) but > have never been able to tie the children together. Also, if the original > poster--David Sherman is still on this list--where did you find the names > of the children--do you have any further information on these lines? >> >> Thank you very much, >> Sherri McConnell >> Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I find your posting very interesting. What are the dates for George DUCKWORTH who married Elizabeth Bellis/Bellesfelt? Thanks, Sally B. > [Original Message] > From: Sherri McConnell <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 4/26/2008 1:58:37 AM > Subject: [NJHUNTER] Duckworth/Bellesfelt/Bellis > > I recently found an old posting regarding an Elizabeth Bellesfelt who married George Duckworth. I am a decendant of George and Elizabeth's daughter Mary and have been trying to find Elizabeth's maiden name for years. I have the names of the siblings in this family, and they match exactly the names of the children in the old posting. > > Does anyone know where I can find more information about Elizabeth Bellesfelt? Is she the same person as Elizabeth Bellis (I have seen reference also to an Elizabeth Bellis married to a George Duckworth) but have never been able to tie the children together. Also, if the original poster--David Sherman is still on this list--where did you find the names of the children--do you have any further information on these lines? > > Thank you very much, > Sherri McConnell > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I recently found an old posting regarding an Elizabeth Bellesfelt who married George Duckworth. I am a decendant of George and Elizabeth's daughter Mary and have been trying to find Elizabeth's maiden name for years. I have the names of the siblings in this family, and they match exactly the names of the children in the old posting. Does anyone know where I can find more information about Elizabeth Bellesfelt? Is she the same person as Elizabeth Bellis (I have seen reference also to an Elizabeth Bellis married to a George Duckworth) but have never been able to tie the children together. Also, if the original poster--David Sherman is still on this list--where did you find the names of the children--do you have any further information on these lines? Thank you very much, Sherri McConnell

I just checked, and the source posted has the dates as I've transcribed them. More reason to believe the Oler-LaRue connection is false. I found this information on Ancestry; therefore, was immediately suspicious. Thanks for catching this and bringing it to my attention. Does anyone else have any information on this Oler-LaRue connection with different dates? Thanks, Nancy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Helen Maliszewski Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 10:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Abraham LaRue and Peter Oller >>I have found an Abraham LaRue (1711 - 1790) Hunterdon, NJ - Augusta, VA. He married Cib Lambert (1713-1779), married in the Netherlands. One of their children was Peter Oller (1716-1778).<< Is there a typo in there? Abraham couldn't possibly have been Peter's father with the birth dates given for each. Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>>I have found an Abraham LaRue (1711 - 1790) Hunterdon, NJ - Augusta, VA. He married Cib Lambert (1713-1779), married in the Netherlands. One of their children was Peter Oller (1716-1778).<< Is there a typo in there? Abraham couldn't possibly have been Peter's father with the birth dates given for each.

Hello Listmates, I have found an Abraham LaRue (1711 - 1790) Hunterdon, NJ - Augusta, VA. He married Cib Lambert (1713-1779), married in the Netherlands. One of their children was Peter Oller (1716-1778). Does anyone know if this is the same Peter Aller who married Anna Elizabeth Kaes (Case)? If so, why the name change? I also have Peter Aller, married to Anna Kaes listed as the son of Petrus Alert and Maria Alt. Are these two separate Peters? Has anyone tried to unravel this mystery. Thank you, Nancy Lauer [email protected] 410.707.7505 National Genealogical Society 2007 Award-Winning author: Family Diversity, The Lauer, Borgmeier, Bauer Families and the MacCubbin's http://www.nancywaterslauer.com-a.googlepages.com/home

This is great news, thank you. JF Purcell President, Purcell Family of America Oceanside, NY > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:50:55 -0400> Subject: [NJHUNTER] Hunterdon Co Historical Society library> > Starting in March 2008 the Hunterdon County Historical Society library is open for research on the second and fourth Saturday of each month from 10 AM to 4 PM. Terry McNealy, Library Director, or Don Cornelius, Manuscript Curator, will be present with at least two HCHS member volunteers. There is free parking Saturday in the municipal lot across from the library which is located at 114 Main Street in Flemington. > In addition, the hours for Thursday afternoon have expanded so that the library is open to the public for research from 12 noon to 4 pm. On-street parking, however, is still limited to 2 hours.> The next several dates for Saturday openings are April 12, April 26, May 10, and May 24. The new e-mail address for the Society is [email protected]> > Pam (a volunteer)> Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Starting in March 2008 the Hunterdon County Historical Society library is open for research on the second and fourth Saturday of each month from 10 AM to 4 PM. Terry McNealy, Library Director, or Don Cornelius, Manuscript Curator, will be present with at least two HCHS member volunteers. There is free parking Saturday in the municipal lot across from the library which is located at 114 Main Street in Flemington. In addition, the hours for Thursday afternoon have expanded so that the library is open to the public for research from 12 noon to 4 pm. On-street parking, however, is still limited to 2 hours. The next several dates for Saturday openings are April 12, April 26, May 10, and May 24. The new e-mail address for the Society is [email protected] Pam (a volunteer)

Marshall, Thank you very much for the detailed information you provided. Aller is a spelling variant of Oler. My 5th great grandfather was Phillip Oler, and I am on a quest to locate his parents. My Philip named his first son Peter and his second son John. I descend from John. This family lived in Baltimore, Maryland. Philip first appeared in Baltimore in 1798 where he is listed on the tax records and the voter registration book. Prior to coming to Baltimore, I believe he was living in Frederick County, Maryland. Again, thank you. Nancy -------------- Original message -------------- From: Marshall Lake <[email protected]> > > > I am currently researching Peter Oler who married Anna Elizabeth Kaes, > > daughter of Johann Philibus Kaes and Anna Elizabeth Jung, in 1737, in > > Hunterdon, NJ. I have Peter's birth date as 1716 and his death as April, > > 1778. Their known children are Peter, Conrad, George, and Philip. I'm > > trying to prove or disprove that he was my 6th great, grandfather. > > I research the KAES surname in Hunterdon Co. > > From an issue of "The Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey" (date and > number not known - possibly the references at the end of the quoted > material indicate such): > > quote > > Peter Aller of Amwell, apparently born abt. 171-; d. abt. April 1778; > md., prob. betw. 1735 and 1745, Elizabeth Kaes (Case), dau. of that Johan > Philip Kaes of Amwell who was natuaralized in 1730; she was living in > 1773. This marriage took place well before 1752, so that he could not > have been the Johann Peter Aller who reached Philadelphia Sep. 15, 1752, > as conjectured by Chambers. (NJW:349J, 1055J; CEG:230, 285; > Strassburger's Penna. Pioneers, I:479). He was one of the ex'rs of the > will of J. P. Kaes, and was sworn at probate in 1756, but in filing the > accounting in 1772, he was affirmed, while his co-ex's was sworn, which > perhaps indicates that he had adopted the Quaker faith in the interim. > (NJW:349J). His will May 17, 1773-Apr. 17, 1778, names three sons (Peter > the eldest) and seven daughters, at least four and perhaps all of the > latter being unmarried. He left his plantation in Amwell to his son John, > who sold part of it in 1809, the deed indicating that it was next to the > German parsonage. (NJW:1055J; HuD 16:145). > > unquote > > From Bryan T. Schneider Peter is the son > of Petrus Alert (born in about 1680 in Germany) and Maria Alt (born in > about 1680 in Westfalen, Preussen, Germany). > > I'm not sure where I got the childrens' names but I have: > > i. Peter, born December 26, 1756 in Amwell Township, married > Elizabeth ------, died in 1792. Peter may have married > Anna HOPPOCK about 1781 in Hunterdon County, and may > have had a son named William who married Mary DALRYMPLE > (daughter of Jesse DALRYMPLE and Ester KITCHEN) October 10, > 1810 in Baptistown, Hunterdon County. > ii. John, married Keziah ------, died in June of 1817. > iii. Philip. > iv. Catherine. > v. Elizabeth. > vi. Mary. > vii. Anna Barbara, married John Harbert COOL/KUHL, had children. > viii. Rebecca. > ix. Rachel. > x. Sarah. > > > -- > Marshall Lake -- [email protected] -- http://mlake.net

> I am currently researching Peter Oler who married Anna Elizabeth Kaes, > daughter of Johann Philibus Kaes and Anna Elizabeth Jung, in 1737, in > Hunterdon, NJ. I have Peter's birth date as 1716 and his death as April, > 1778. Their known children are Peter, Conrad, George, and Philip. I'm > trying to prove or disprove that he was my 6th great, grandfather. I research the KAES surname in Hunterdon Co. >From an issue of "The Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey" (date and number not known - possibly the references at the end of the quoted material indicate such): quote Peter Aller of Amwell, apparently born abt. 171-; d. abt. April 1778; md., prob. betw. 1735 and 1745, Elizabeth Kaes (Case), dau. of that Johan Philip Kaes of Amwell who was natuaralized in 1730; she was living in 1773. This marriage took place well before 1752, so that he could not have been the Johann Peter Aller who reached Philadelphia Sep. 15, 1752, as conjectured by Chambers. (NJW:349J, 1055J; CEG:230, 285; Strassburger's Penna. Pioneers, I:479). He was one of the ex'rs of the will of J. P. Kaes, and was sworn at probate in 1756, but in filing the accounting in 1772, he was affirmed, while his co-ex's was sworn, which perhaps indicates that he had adopted the Quaker faith in the interim. (NJW:349J). His will May 17, 1773-Apr. 17, 1778, names three sons (Peter the eldest) and seven daughters, at least four and perhaps all of the latter being unmarried. He left his plantation in Amwell to his son John, who sold part of it in 1809, the deed indicating that it was next to the German parsonage. (NJW:1055J; HuD 16:145). unquote >From Bryan T. Schneider <[email protected]> Peter is the son of Petrus Alert (born in about 1680 in Germany) and Maria Alt (born in about 1680 in Westfalen, Preussen, Germany). I'm not sure where I got the childrens' names but I have: i. Peter, born December 26, 1756 in Amwell Township, married Elizabeth ------, died in 1792. Peter may have married Anna HOPPOCK about 1781 in Hunterdon County, and may have had a son named William who married Mary DALRYMPLE (daughter of Jesse DALRYMPLE and Ester KITCHEN) October 10, 1810 in Baptistown, Hunterdon County. ii. John, married Keziah ------, died in June of 1817. iii. Philip. iv. Catherine. v. Elizabeth. vi. Mary. vii. Anna Barbara, married John Harbert COOL/KUHL, had children. viii. Rebecca. ix. Rachel. x. Sarah. -- Marshall Lake -- [email protected] -- http://mlake.net