I spelled Lance wrong... I think I put Lanc In a message dated 11/16/2008 9:06:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I don't have anything on Minnard but if you google the whole name you will come up with a few sites that mention the name. Perhaps you can find him here. Dot ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Fwd: Fw: Carrie/Caroline Pickel 1833 > The PICKLE name sparked an interest as I have a MINNARD PICKLE who > married > MARGARET LANCE 1817 - 1891. > > I still do not know who Margaret's parents were nor anything about > Minnard. > > Laurence Lance > > **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & > more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt > p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

I have three listed for Margaret Lanc. 1. in 1850 census b. abt 1820 died 1880 in Hope, Warren NJ 2. in 1870 Census b. abt 1820 died 1850 Mansfeld Warren, NJ 3. in 1860 census b. abt 1820 died Lebanon, Hunterdon County NJ In a message dated 11/16/2008 9:16:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: In a message dated 11/16/2008 6:14:07 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Was Margaret born in NJ or do you knopw? I very much suspect she was as I am sure here ancestors were one of the three brothers who arrived Oct of 1738. **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir= htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

In a message dated 11/16/2008 6:14:07 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Was Margaret born in NJ or do you knopw? I very much suspect she was as I am sure here ancestors were one of the three brothers who arrived Oct of 1738. **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

Was Margaret born in NJ or do you knopw? In a message dated 11/16/2008 9:10:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: In a message dated 11/16/2008 6:07:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: In a message dated 11/16/2008 9:01:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Were they from NJ? How are the connected to you? The name changed spelling back and forth as you may have noticed. In a message dated 11/16/2008 8:35:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The PICKLE name sparked an interest as I have a MINNARD PICKLE who married MARGARET LANCE 1817 - 1891. I still do not know who Margaret's parents were nor anything about Minnard. Laurence Lance In answer, yes they were in NJ and the dates are for Margaret Lance - dob - dod. Laurence **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir= htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

In a message dated 11/16/2008 6:07:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: In a message dated 11/16/2008 9:01:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Were they from NJ? How are the connected to you? The name changed spelling back and forth as you may have noticed. In a message dated 11/16/2008 8:35:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The PICKLE name sparked an interest as I have a MINNARD PICKLE who married MARGARET LANCE 1817 - 1891. I still do not know who Margaret's parents were nor anything about Minnard. Laurence Lance In answer, yes they were in NJ and the dates are for Margaret Lance - dob - dod. Laurence **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

I need more information to try to help you. I need some sort of dates. You gave 1817-1991. I don't know what that refers to. In a message dated 11/16/2008 9:01:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Were they from NJ? How are the connected to you? The name changed spelling back and forth as you may have noticed. In a message dated 11/16/2008 8:35:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The PICKLE name sparked an interest as I have a MINNARD PICKLE who married MARGARET LANCE 1817 - 1891. I still do not know who Margaret's parents were nor anything about Minnard. Laurence Lance **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir= htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir= htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

I don't have anything on Minnard but if you google the whole name you will come up with a few sites that mention the name. Perhaps you can find him here. Dot ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Fwd: Fw: Carrie/Caroline Pickel 1833 > The PICKLE name sparked an interest as I have a MINNARD PICKLE who > married > MARGARET LANCE 1817 - 1891. > > I still do not know who Margaret's parents were nor anything about > Minnard. > > Laurence Lance > > **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & > more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt > p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Were they from NJ? How are the connected to you? The name changed spelling back and forth as you may have noticed. In a message dated 11/16/2008 8:35:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The PICKLE name sparked an interest as I have a MINNARD PICKLE who married MARGARET LANCE 1817 - 1891. I still do not know who Margaret's parents were nor anything about Minnard. Laurence Lance **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir= htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

The PICKLE name sparked an interest as I have a MINNARD PICKLE who married MARGARET LANCE 1817 - 1891. I still do not know who Margaret's parents were nor anything about Minnard. Laurence Lance **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

Laurence, I found this: Pickle, Minard J. Birth : 1782 Lebanon, Hunterdon, New Jersey Gender: Male Parents: Father: Pickle, Abraham Mother: Farley, Margaret Marilyn researching Capt. Thomas Jones in Hunterdon, Bray, Decker, Adams, VanKirk, Cowell & Titus families in NJ. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Fwd: Fw: Carrie/Caroline Pickel 1833 > The PICKLE name sparked an interest as I have a MINNARD PICKLE who > married > MARGARET LANCE 1817 - 1891. > > I still do not know who Margaret's parents were nor anything about > Minnard. > > Laurence Lance > > **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & > more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt > p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thomas Godown and Eve Fox were born 1751 and 1764.  I have their parents in my records, but not their children.  Fred

Dear Kim, Concerning Eve Fox Godown's name, I believe she was born on 29 May 1764 to John (Honis) Sine and his wife Anna. This John Sine wrote his his will on 23 Jan 1797 in Amwell Twp. in which he named his daughter Eve Fox. Marfy On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Kim Golding <[email protected]> wrote: > Marfy, Mike and all.... > > I was elated to learn about Adeline's parents last night. I thanked > Mike promptly and directly by email for his contribution to my > research. I'm also greatly impressed with the list's familiarity with > the people and history of Hunterdon. Makes me realize just how much I > still need to learn on this subject. (Side note-- I spent 10 years > researching my family, took a 12 year break, and only recently returned > to this project!) > > Soon after learning of Adeline's parents, I began looking for > Eve/Evelyn's first marriage. So far, nothing has surfaced. It made me > wonder, though, if perhaps Eve/Evelyn was a Fox, and she dropped her > married name upon the ending of that first marriage. After all, the Fox > name stayed in the family when Jonathan and Adeline had their son and > named him Jacob Fox Rake. Just seems slightly unusual to me. > > My Saturday is starting out great thanks to you. And the sun is shining > here in Tacoma, Washington! > > Kim Golding > [email protected] > RAKE, GODOWN, PHILKILL, HOPPOCK, TAYLOR, THATCHER, LAREW and others.... > > ---------- > Marfy Goodspeed wrote: > > Dear Mike, > > Thank you for sending this citation to the list. I have long wondered > about > > how Jonathan H. Rake was connected with Jacob Fox. He shows up in deeds > > selling land that belonged to Fox's estate, and in fact, sold the land on > > which my house stands. However, the land in dispute in the court case you > > cited is a different lot from mine. > > > > I was fascinated to learn that Thomas Godown and wife Eve separated after > > Isaac Fox came of age, and that Thomas died in the poorhouse. What I > don't > > know is where Eve and son Isaac went to live after selling the "premises" > to > > Asa Moore. (By the way, that premises was located on Ferry Road in > Delaware > > Twp. Hunterdon Co., I think.) > > > > The answer may be that Isaac Fox owned land in Alexandria Township, and > was > > a miller there. That land was probably other land that he inherited from > his > > father Jacob. Jacob was something of a real estate speculator, which > makes > > figuring out who was where when a little challenging. I do not know where > > Jacob Fox's Alexandria homestead was, but that is where he died in 1795. > > > > Just to make things a little more interesting, the Fox and Rake families > got > > their start in Delaware Twp in the mid 1700s, bordering Sandbrook Road in > > Delaware Twp. So Jonathan Rake certainly had reason to be acquainted with > > Isaac Fox. > > > > Regards, > > Marfy Goodspeed > > > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Mike Morrissey <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > >> Kim, > >> > >> Adeline was the only child of Thomas Godown and Eva Fox, per a New > Jersey > >> Supreme case. > >> New Jersey Law Reports, Vol XXIV, > >> Reports of Cases Argued and Determined in the Supreme Court and the > Court > >> of Errors and Appeals in the State of New Jersey, A.O. Zabriskie, > Reporter. > >> page 364 > >> Go to Google books and search on "Thomas Godown" to read more. > >> > >> Mike Morrissey > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Kim Golding" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:44 PM > >> Subject: [NJHUNTER] Adaline Godown's Parents > >> > >> > >> Since there is so much wisdom in the room tonight, I will ask for help > >> with my most pressing challenge. > >> > >> Jonathan Hunter Rake and Adaline Godown were married 20 June 1826 in > >> Hunterdon Co., NJ > >> > >> I have determined they had 4 children (at least): > >> Jacob Fox Rake 9 Feb 1826 > >> Sarah Adaline Rake 1828 > >> Jonathan Hunter Rake 18 Sep 1830 > >> Susan E. Rake 4 Apr 1841 > >> > >> I have not determined who Adaline's parents are. HOWEVER, a couple days > >> ago, I found something on the internet at the Godown site that caught my > >> eye: > >> > >> Marriage Records, Hunterdon County New Jersey (1795-1875). According to > >> the book Adeline Godown and Jonathan Rake were married June > >> 26,1826, 2-295 (Wilson,J.P.). J.P. meaning justice of the peace. The > >> numbers following the date are the volume and page number of the > >> original record. This may be a long shot but there is only one marriage > >> listed early enough to be Adeline's parents. Godown,Thomas and Eve Fox, > >> January 4,1801 1-43 (Lambert,Esq.). > >> > >> I thought it was a long shot "guess" until I remembered Jacob's middle > >> name. If anyone has ideas or information on this, please let me know. > >> I'd like to think I've finally made some progress on this one! > >> > >> THANK YOU! > >> > >> Kim Golding > >> Tacoma > >> [email protected] > >> (PS - I originally sent this the the list's request email addy. > whoops!) > >> > > > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enjhunter> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi list, I would like to thank all the kind people who have answered and helped. >From what I have gathered on here I have decided on taking another tack. This is Helen's family that I am helping her with and family history says she came to MI when she was 3 years old and that she said her parents were Jonathan Pickel and Hannah. In the back of my mind it has always been a doubt and question why would a 3 year old from a good substantial family be going to MI without her parents. The person who found Elizabeth Pickel living nearby and who m John Mann was a Godsend. This Elizabeth and husband John Mann were witnesses at Carrie's marriage to Truman Curtis. Now, is this Elizabeth a sister of cousin? Why would this Elizabeth be from NJ and living so close to Carrie? That is the next mountain to climb. I believe now that Carrie is NOT the dau of Jonathan of Alexandria but another Pickel who migrated to MI in 1836 (if this date is correct). Back to the drawing board. :( Dot ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:17 AM Subject: [NJHUNTER] Fwd: Fw: Carrie/Caroline Pickel 1833 > > > > > ____________________________________ > From: HEChan > To: [email protected] > Sent: 11/15/2008 9:15:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time > Subj: Re: Fw: [NJHUNTER] Carrie/Caroline Pickel 1833 > > > I was rereading your email on the film and other materials about > Elizabeth > Pickel et al. I am still so thrilled to see that they were the ones that > "stood up" with Carrie Pickel and Truman Curtis...when all this time I > was hoping > they were someone else than just friends of the one who did the ceremony. > I > was also glad I had a copy of the certificate. I also have a copy of my > grandparents marriage certificate (Carrie's daughter) and Carrie Curtis > and > Grandma's brother-in-law were the witnesses for that. I am so > thrilled...so > thrilled yesterday with the added news you sent that I was shaking and > could > hardly type--or think straight--when I talked to Dot. > > Thanks, Helen > > > > > In a message dated 11/14/2008 8:00:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mike" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 7:27 PM > Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Carrie/Caroline Pickel 1833 > > >> Dot, >> >> There is a film copy of at least some of the records available through >> the >> Family History Library: >> Church records of the German Reformed Church, of Alexandria Township, >> Hunterdon County, New Jersey FHL US/CAN Film 441466 Item 2 >> >> Ancenstry.com has the records from 1763 through 1802. >> >> You may have noticed in the 1850 census of Washington, Macomb, MI >> Elizabeth Pickle, age 25, b NJ living with the Calkins family. >> She married John Mann and died in 1897. >> see Past and Present of Macomb County, Michigan By Robert F. Eldredge, >> page 406 >> search Google books for "Elizabeth Pickle" Macomb >> >> Bruce and Washington townwhips border each other. I am guessing, but >> Elizabeth may be a sister of Caroline. >> >> I would be interested to hear if you are able to confirm Caroline's >> parents. >> >> Mike Morrissey >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dotbfl" <[email protected]> >> To: "NJHUNTER mail list" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 4:18 PM >> Subject: [NJHUNTER] Carrie/Caroline Pickel 1833 >> >> >>>I am trying to find the source for the date of birth of Carrie/Caroline >>>Pickel on 2 April 1833 in Alexandria, Hunterdon Co, NJ. She was in >>>Michigan in 1850 and m Truman Curtis 1859. She died 1910. >>> Need to connect her to parents who I believe are Jonathan Pickel and >>> wife >>> Hannah Person or Besson. They were married 1821 in Alexandria German >>> Reformed Church but it was not in operation when Carrie/Caroline was >>> born. Does anyone know where I could find the records from this >>> church? >>> Any help greatly appreciated. >>> Dot >>> >>> Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________ > _Get the Moviefone Toolbar_ > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=http://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=e > mlcntusdown00000001) . 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Hi list, I would like to thank all the kind people who have answered and helped. From what I have gathered on here I have decided on taking another tack. This is Helen's family that I am helping her with and family history says she came to MI when she was 3 years old and that she said her parents were Jonathan Pickel and Hannah. In the back of my mind it has always been a doubt and question why would a 3 year old from a good substantial family be going to MI without her parents. The person who found Elizabeth Pickel living nearby and who m John Mann was a Godsend. This Elizabeth and husband John Mann were witnesses at Carrie's marriage to Truman Curtis. Now, is this Elizabeth a sister of cousin? Why would this Elizabeth be from NJ and living so close to Carrie? That is the next mountain to climb. I believe now that Carrie is NOT the dau of Jonathan of Alexandria but another Pickel who migrated to MI in 1836 (if this date is correct). Back to the drawing board. :( Dot

Sorry my mail has been mixed up...starting a clean slate. Thank you for the information about the will. It really helps. I thought I was writing to Dot when I was talking about Rachel. She was one of Jonathan's children and Dot wrote that if we could find a connection between Rachel and Carrie we'd have her where we wanted her. I think the will will help a lot in straightening out some things...or linking some people, maybe. Thanks again, Helen In a message dated 11/15/2008 10:51:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Helen, > Where do I write for the will? http://www.state.nj.us/state/darm/links/reference.html Land and Estate Records Wills and Estate Inventories 1670-1952 $5.00 per packet (up to 10 pages), $1.00 each additional page; provide the name of the deceased, approximate death date, and county or major city of residence. Include file number, if known. Jonathan died on 07 Feb 1869 in Hunterdon Co., NJ. The file number is 6899J. Checks should be made payable to: New Jersey General Treasury Mail requests to: New Jersey State Archives PO Box 307 Trenton, NJ 08625-0307 Many Michigan county histories are online at: http://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/micounty/ Mike Morrissey -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:36 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Carrie/Caroline Pickel 1833 Where do I write for the will? I remember in my early days of genealogy I learned that NJ was one of the first genealogy-friendly states. This was nice information to get first thing in the morning. I was wondering where I start next. Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

I think Rachel was back home with mom and dad. In a message dated 11/15/2008 10:20:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Helen,] But this Rachel is dau of Jonathan and shows up on the 1850 census with him. Now if we can find some connection between Carrie and Rachel we would have what we need. Dot ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Rachel Pickel,dtr of Johanthan of Hunterdon m. Jordan H. Stov... > Too early. I have when "my" Eliz. was married...in Macomb county, > MI...but > thanks so much > > > In a message dated 11/14/2008 9:55:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Hello to all, > > There is also an Elizabeth Pickel who according NJDARM database married > Conrad Hockenberry 16 May 1852 in Lebanon, Hunterdon County, NJ. > > Dot, if you go to google books and type in "Johnathan Pickel of Hunterdon > County, New Jersey" you will find many entries, some with only "snippet" > views, > others in full PDF format to download. Here is one of the Jonathan > Pickel's > daughters, I assume. > > History of Bucks County, Pennsylvania edited by J. H. Battle > JORDAN H. STOVER, farmer, P. O. Erwinna, is the youngest son of Henry S. > Stover, and was born May 1, 1833, in the old homestead, which has been > his > lite- > long home. He learned the miller's trade in his father's mill, and > carried > on that > business until 1886, at the same time cultivating a small farm attached > to > the homestead. > He was educated in Freeland seminary, at Perkiomen, Montgomery county. > In 1869 he bought an interest in his father's mill. He remodelled and > partially rebuilt > the old home, making it an elegant and commodious residence. June 17, > 1858, > he married Rachel, daughter of Jonathan Pickel, of Hunterdon county, N. > J. > She > was born June 30, 1838. They have three children : Hannah P., the wife > of > J. C. > Lambrite, of Doylestown ; Edward C., married to Elizabeth Coane, living > in > Trenton, N. J. ; and Lizzie P., who lives with her parents. Mr. and Mrs. > Stover > are members of the Presbyterian church at Frenchtown, N. J., of which he > is > a > trustee. He has always been an active, enterprising business man, and > enjoys > the > respect of his neighbors. > > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & > more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt > p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

Thanks...this means I know what I'm doing. I really appreciate it. Helen In a message dated 11/15/2008 10:51:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Helen, > Where do I write for the will? http://www.state.nj.us/state/darm/links/reference.html Land and Estate Records Wills and Estate Inventories 1670-1952 $5.00 per packet (up to 10 pages), $1.00 each additional page; provide the name of the deceased, approximate death date, and county or major city of residence. Include file number, if known. Jonathan died on 07 Feb 1869 in Hunterdon Co., NJ. The file number is 6899J. Checks should be made payable to: New Jersey General Treasury Mail requests to: New Jersey State Archives PO Box 307 Trenton, NJ 08625-0307 Many Michigan county histories are online at: http://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/micounty/ Mike Morrissey -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:36 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Carrie/Caroline Pickel 1833 Where do I write for the will? I remember in my early days of genealogy I learned that NJ was one of the first genealogy-friendly states. This was nice information to get first thing in the morning. I was wondering where I start next. Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)

Marfy, Mike and all.... I was elated to learn about Adeline's parents last night. I thanked Mike promptly and directly by email for his contribution to my research. I'm also greatly impressed with the list's familiarity with the people and history of Hunterdon. Makes me realize just how much I still need to learn on this subject. (Side note-- I spent 10 years researching my family, took a 12 year break, and only recently returned to this project!) Soon after learning of Adeline's parents, I began looking for Eve/Evelyn's first marriage. So far, nothing has surfaced. It made me wonder, though, if perhaps Eve/Evelyn was a Fox, and she dropped her married name upon the ending of that first marriage. After all, the Fox name stayed in the family when Jonathan and Adeline had their son and named him Jacob Fox Rake. Just seems slightly unusual to me. My Saturday is starting out great thanks to you. And the sun is shining here in Tacoma, Washington! Kim Golding [email protected] RAKE, GODOWN, PHILKILL, HOPPOCK, TAYLOR, THATCHER, LAREW and others.... ---------- Marfy Goodspeed wrote: > Dear Mike, > Thank you for sending this citation to the list. I have long wondered about > how Jonathan H. Rake was connected with Jacob Fox. He shows up in deeds > selling land that belonged to Fox's estate, and in fact, sold the land on > which my house stands. However, the land in dispute in the court case you > cited is a different lot from mine. > > I was fascinated to learn that Thomas Godown and wife Eve separated after > Isaac Fox came of age, and that Thomas died in the poorhouse. What I don't > know is where Eve and son Isaac went to live after selling the "premises" to > Asa Moore. (By the way, that premises was located on Ferry Road in Delaware > Twp. Hunterdon Co., I think.) > > The answer may be that Isaac Fox owned land in Alexandria Township, and was > a miller there. That land was probably other land that he inherited from his > father Jacob. Jacob was something of a real estate speculator, which makes > figuring out who was where when a little challenging. I do not know where > Jacob Fox's Alexandria homestead was, but that is where he died in 1795. > > Just to make things a little more interesting, the Fox and Rake families got > their start in Delaware Twp in the mid 1700s, bordering Sandbrook Road in > Delaware Twp. So Jonathan Rake certainly had reason to be acquainted with > Isaac Fox. > > Regards, > Marfy Goodspeed > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Mike Morrissey <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> Kim, >> >> Adeline was the only child of Thomas Godown and Eva Fox, per a New Jersey >> Supreme case. >> New Jersey Law Reports, Vol XXIV, >> Reports of Cases Argued and Determined in the Supreme Court and the Court >> of Errors and Appeals in the State of New Jersey, A.O. Zabriskie, Reporter. >> page 364 >> Go to Google books and search on "Thomas Godown" to read more. >> >> Mike Morrissey >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kim Golding" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:44 PM >> Subject: [NJHUNTER] Adaline Godown's Parents >> >> >> Since there is so much wisdom in the room tonight, I will ask for help >> with my most pressing challenge. >> >> Jonathan Hunter Rake and Adaline Godown were married 20 June 1826 in >> Hunterdon Co., NJ >> >> I have determined they had 4 children (at least): >> Jacob Fox Rake 9 Feb 1826 >> Sarah Adaline Rake 1828 >> Jonathan Hunter Rake 18 Sep 1830 >> Susan E. Rake 4 Apr 1841 >> >> I have not determined who Adaline's parents are. HOWEVER, a couple days >> ago, I found something on the internet at the Godown site that caught my >> eye: >> >> Marriage Records, Hunterdon County New Jersey (1795-1875). According to >> the book Adeline Godown and Jonathan Rake were married June >> 26,1826, 2-295 (Wilson,J.P.). J.P. meaning justice of the peace. The >> numbers following the date are the volume and page number of the >> original record. This may be a long shot but there is only one marriage >> listed early enough to be Adeline's parents. Godown,Thomas and Eve Fox, >> January 4,1801 1-43 (Lambert,Esq.). >> >> I thought it was a long shot "guess" until I remembered Jacob's middle >> name. If anyone has ideas or information on this, please let me know. >> I'd like to think I've finally made some progress on this one! >> >> THANK YOU! >> >> Kim Golding >> Tacoma >> [email protected] >> (PS - I originally sent this the the list's request email addy. whoops!) >> >

Helen, > Where do I write for the will? http://www.state.nj.us/state/darm/links/reference.html Land and Estate Records Wills and Estate Inventories 1670-1952 $5.00 per packet (up to 10 pages), $1.00 each additional page; provide the name of the deceased, approximate death date, and county or major city of residence. Include file number, if known. Jonathan died on 07 Feb 1869 in Hunterdon Co., NJ. The file number is 6899J. Checks should be made payable to: New Jersey General Treasury Mail requests to: New Jersey State Archives PO Box 307 Trenton, NJ 08625-0307 Many Michigan county histories are online at: http://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/micounty/ Mike Morrissey -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:36 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Carrie/Caroline Pickel 1833 Where do I write for the will? I remember in my early days of genealogy I learned that NJ was one of the first genealogy-friendly states. This was nice information to get first thing in the morning. I was wondering where I start next.

Helen,] But this Rachel is dau of Jonathan and shows up on the 1850 census with him. Now if we can find some connection between Carrie and Rachel we would have what we need. Dot ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUNTER] Rachel Pickel,dtr of Johanthan of Hunterdon m. Jordan H. Stov... > Too early. I have when "my" Eliz. was married...in Macomb county, > MI...but > thanks so much > > > In a message dated 11/14/2008 9:55:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Hello to all, > > There is also an Elizabeth Pickel who according NJDARM database married > Conrad Hockenberry 16 May 1852 in Lebanon, Hunterdon County, NJ. > > Dot, if you go to google books and type in "Johnathan Pickel of Hunterdon > County, New Jersey" you will find many entries, some with only "snippet" > views, > others in full PDF format to download. Here is one of the Jonathan > Pickel's > daughters, I assume. > > History of Bucks County, Pennsylvania edited by J. H. Battle > JORDAN H. STOVER, farmer, P. O. Erwinna, is the youngest son of Henry S. > Stover, and was born May 1, 1833, in the old homestead, which has been > his > lite- > long home. He learned the miller's trade in his father's mill, and > carried > on that > business until 1886, at the same time cultivating a small farm attached > to > the homestead. > He was educated in Freeland seminary, at Perkiomen, Montgomery county. > In 1869 he bought an interest in his father's mill. He remodelled and > partially rebuilt > the old home, making it an elegant and commodious residence. June 17, > 1858, > he married Rachel, daughter of Jonathan Pickel, of Hunterdon county, N. > J. > She > was born June 30, 1838. They have three children : Hannah P., the wife > of > J. C. > Lambrite, of Doylestown ; Edward C., married to Elizabeth Coane, living > in > Trenton, N. J. ; and Lizzie P., who lives with her parents. Mr. and Mrs. > Stover > are members of the Presbyterian church at Frenchtown, N. J., of which he > is > a > trustee. He has always been an active, enterprising business man, and > enjoys > the > respect of his neighbors. > > > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & > more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt > p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) > Visit the Hunterdon County GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhunter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >