Lauren: I went through the license renewal in May, and never had a photo id in my life - and no passport either. If you have a JC birth certificate with a raised seal, take it and the other documents totalling the number of points the DMV wants to the DMV office. They will go through a verification process for your birth certificate that will require you to return on another day to complete the process once your birth certficate is verified. Basically, they take a copy of your certificate, fax it to someone, give you back your original and your other documents and call you at whatever number you give them to let you know to come back to the DMV once you've been verified. When you return, you go right to the next part of the process with the paperwork they have given you, get your photo license and you are done. It was relatively painless. (its a bit insulting to have been a NJ driver for forty years in my case and have to prove myself, all over again - like any of this would stop determined criminals - but it is not anywhere near as bad as I thought it was. ) At least you had a passport. I had to pick my husband up at Newark, and all I had with my picture on it was a Costco card. They didn't want to accept it, but finally gave in when I showed them every piece of paper in my wallet, including my voter registration card. How sad for all of us that we have to go through this like we are all under suspicion, rather than the other way around. Good luck, Evelyn "Complain not that the rose has thorns, but rather rejoice that the thornbush has a rose" -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 06:00:16 -0600 Subject: NJHUDSON-D Digest V06 #91 Content-Type: text/plain NJHUDSON-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 91 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) [[email protected]] #2 RE: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) [Ray Cappock <[email protected]] #3 [NYC] Pre Castle Garden Arrival, R [Gloria Bauer <[email protected]>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from NJHUDSON-D, send a message to [email protected] that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ X-Message: #1 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:31:10 -0400 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Message-Id: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This is so aggravating! I, as probably many other list members, was born at Margaret Hague Maternity Hospital (which closed in 1979). My mother received a copy of my birth certificate several weeks after I was born, but, because of the "suspected" sale of fradulent documents by county workers in Jersey City, my birth certificate is no longer valid!!! I'm one of those increasingly disappearing people who never got a photo license, because I wasn't required to. I use my passport when I have to produce photo ID. Next renewal, however, I'm required to add the photo to my license, which means I need to prove who I am and the old license doesn't count! So I need to produce a valid license (not the one I've used for 50+ years!) and other forms of ID. Maybe this would be a good time to assume a new identity! ;0) BTW - I understand the old Maternity Hospital building is being renovated into condos and rental apartments. Lauren Maehrlein Maehrlein's Heirlines Plant a tree, then start your family tree! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:52:46 EDT Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) Hi, This is what I was told by Weehawken's Board of Health and by Jersey City. Weehawken sent me to Jersey City after I gave them the information was looking for. For example, an 1959 Death Certificate from North Hudson Hospital. As for Jersey City, I had a dispute with the person over the phone about this issue. His answer was we are no longer accepting any new requests for "certificates." You must write to the state. Hoboken on the other hand is a bird of different feather as is North Bergen. They keep their records separate because of the hospitals in the area (Palisades General and St. Mary's Hospital.) Jill A. Pierson [email protected] and [email protected] "The truth is this, the march of Providence is so slow and our desires so impatient; the work of progress is so immense and our means of aiding it so feeble; the life of humanity is so long, that of the individual so brief, that we often see only the ebb of the advancing wave and are thus discouraged. It is history that teaches us to hope." Robert E. Lee ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== Visit the Hudson County N.J. GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/ ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ______________________________ X-Message: #2 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:00:13 -0400 From: Ray Cappock <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-id: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Your old license doesn't count but, if your passport is either current or expires less than three years, it is a substitute for a birth certificate. In fact, you cannot use both a birth certificate (no matter from what town in NJ) and a passport. Check the NJ DMV site: for info on what you need to bring for a new license. http://www.dmv.org/nj-new-jersey/drivers-license.php Ray C -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 1:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) This is so aggravating! I, as probably many other list members, was born at Margaret Hague Maternity Hospital (which closed in 1979). My mother received a copy of my birth certificate several weeks after I was born, but, because of the "suspected" sale of fradulent documents by county workers in Jersey City, my birth certificate is no longer valid!!! I'm one of those increasingly disappearing people who never got a photo license, because I wasn't required to. I use my passport when I have to produce photo ID. Next renewal, however, I'm required to add the photo to my license, which means I need to prove who I am and the old license doesn't count! So I need to produce a valid license (not the one I've used for 50+ years!) and other forms of ID. Maybe this would be a good time to assume a new identity! ;0) BTW - I understand the old Maternity Hospital building is being renovated into condos and rental apartments. Lauren Maehrlein Maehrlein's Heirlines Plant a tree, then start your family tree! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:52:46 EDT Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) Hi, This is what I was told by Weehawken's Board of Health and by Jersey City. Weehawken sent me to Jersey City after I gave them the information was looking for. For example, an 1959 Death Certificate from North Hudson Hospital. As for Jersey City, I had a dispute with the person over the phone about this issue. His answer was we are no longer accepting any new requests for "certificates." You must write to the state. Hoboken on the other hand is a bird of different feather as is North Bergen. They keep their records separate because of the hospitals in the area (Palisades General and St. Mary's Hospital.) Jill A. Pierson [email protected] and [email protected] "The truth is this, the march of Providence is so slow and our desires so impatient; the work of progress is so immense and our means of aiding it so feeble; the life of humanity is so long, that of the individual so brief, that we often see only the ebb of the advancing wave and are thus discouraged. It is history that teaches us to hope." Robert E. Lee ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== Visit the Hudson County N.J. GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/ ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== New people subscribe to and unsubscribe from the list each week. You are encouraged to resubmit your queries two or three times per year to reach new listmembers. ______________________________ X-Message: #3 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:32:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Gloria Bauer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: [NYC] Pre Castle Garden Arrival, Rudtner in NY, Stadelhofer in NJ (fwd) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Regards, Gloria M. Bauer ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:13:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Gloria Bauer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [NYC] Pre Castle Garden Arrival, Rudtner in NY, Stadelhofer in NJ Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:13:41 -0600 Resent-From: [email protected] I have two ancestors that arrived in the U.S.before Castle Garden. How do I find the ship they took to come to the U.S. What I know: Joseph Anton Rudtner born 19 Mar 1865 and Maria Katharina Rudtner born 8 Sept 1870 both came to the U.S. but I do not know for sure that they came together. Joseph Anton Rudtner Married Helene Stoll 28 Apr 1889 at St Nickolas Church in NYC He applied to become a citizen 7 May 1889 and became a citizen 14 Sept 1893. The 1920 Census shows his year of immigration as 1887. On a passport application in 1922 he says he emigrated sailing from Rotterdam about Sept 1888. Maria Katharina Rudtner, in 1911 lived on 121 Clinton Street in West Hoboken NJ, and she is married to Richard Stadelhofer. She died and was buried in Holy Name Cemetery on 14 Nov 1921. Any help will be appreciated. TIA, Gloria M. Bauer ==== NYC-ROOTS Mailing List ==== List tools for you to use (sub unsub, archives, admin addy) - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/misc.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. 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