I believe those shipping lines docked in NYC. MIKE maurmike1@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: njhudson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njhudson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sandra Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 4:12 PM To: njhudson@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] JC Ferries 1850-1870; landfill added to shoreline Importance: High While we are in that area of Jersey, does anyone have any info on the docks, piers, longshoremen, American President Lines, US Lines,or the AFL-CIO ?   Thanks, Sandra --- On Sat, 12/6/08, MIKE MCHENRY <maurmike1@verizon.net> wrote: From: MIKE MCHENRY <maurmike1@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] JC Ferries 1850-1870; landfill added to shoreline To: njhudson@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 11:55 AM Try the Rutgers historic map site http://mapmaker.rutgers.edu/HUDSON_COUNTY/oldHudson.html. The show ferry terminals and direction in some cases. The 1879 map has them. They also show propose the landfills. MIKE maurmike1@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: njhudson-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:njhudson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Suzanne Hawes Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 9:05 AM To: njhudson@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJHUDSON] JC Ferries 1850-1870; landfill added to shoreline Questions: What was the ferry service from Jersey City to lower Manhattan in the years 1850-1870 or so? Where did it disembark and land? Any idea of the length of the trip? I understand that the shoreline around South 1th-South 5th Street was extended by landfill. If one had the address in the 250-300's of these blocks, where would that be today? What was the source of the landfill? My ancestors not only had a business in Greenwich Village but also went to college there, obviously by ferry. Would appreciate any information about that part of Jersey City during that period - or what resources I might consult. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUDSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUDSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUDSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I attended an interesting lecture on the passenger ships a few years ago.  The lecturer told us that the British, Dutch and American lines had New York harbor sewn up and they took every available inch and locked out the Germans when the Germans started building passenger ships long after the others had established their routes and piers on the New York side of the Hudson River (for years before there were German passenger lines, German passengers took small German boats to France or England or the Netherlands and then boarded ocean-going vessels there, mostly in England.   Much depends on the year they came .... 1810 was a lot different than 1947.   The passenger lines of the Germans and subsequent nations wanting to unload passengers had to go across the river to Hudson County, New Jersey to unload their passengers.  I know Jersey City and Hoboken had many piers and ship repair yards .... did Bayonne also?   The Germans also established very profitable routes that stopped in Baltimore on their way to New Orleans.  Many Germans who came to New Jersey and New York had landed in Baltimore and perhaps worked there awhile before moving north.  Some in my mother's family did that.  And Germans going to Ohio, Illinois, Missouri, Iowa, Wisconsin and Minnesota often disembarked in New Orleans and sailed up the Mississippi and its tributaries, far cheaper than traveling overland from NYC or JC.   Maureen