With reference to the fourth paragraph, but we have lots of photos of the West Hoboken Germans (none of whom served in the Civil War, interestingly). I have a relative that came over from Germany and served in the Civil War, he was wounded, died in 1926 and is buried in upstate New York. Ann in Farmingdale, NJ Genealogy: The Past Revisited _http://ngeorgia.com/history/nghisttt.html_ (http://ngeorgia.com/history/nghisttt.html) The Trail of Tears - Cherokee Indians forcibly removed from North Georgia In a message dated 4/20/2009 11:46:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maureen1024@yahoo.com writes: My Irish-American great-grandfather had a "pass through the lines" in the Civil War to let him get home to New York from Virginia. It very carefully described him as "gray eyes, fair, medium build" -- WOW! so now we know everything! Or not? It was typed on tan-colored paper about 5 inches across X 8 inches. It is a treasure. But we need to remember that the life and times were very different and we cannot have unrealistic expectations. We won't find videos of our great-grannies running a stoplight as one can find in Chicago now (I just MAY have starred in one of those this morning!) We have no photos of the New York Irish in that generation, either, and only the above description -- but we have lots of photos of the West Hoboken Germans (none of whom served in the Civil War, interestingly). It may have been a question of who could afford to hire a photographer and who had relatives elsewhere to whom they were writing and sending photos, and whose mother wanted a photo. My Irish immigrants were both Great Famine immigrants who were raised in Irish orphanages, then turned out at age 15 to fend for themselves -- so they had no one taking their First Communion pictures and such, no family traditions they knew of -- and they were lucky to get a crust of bread. I just bless and thank them for their grit and determination because I have certainly had a good life due to their strong wills and courage! --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Jeanne Thomas <gthomas1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: From: Jeanne Thomas <gthomas1@tampabay.rr.com> Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Documents w/ Persons Description on it? To: njhudson@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 7:24 PM When I was searching for naturalization info about my GGM, I recall being advised that a woman would not have naturalization records of her own, as her citizenship would have come through her husband at the time of marriage. Is this information incorrect? Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stickman" <stick_man@comcast.net> To: <njhudson@rootsweb.com>; <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Documents w/ Persons Description on it? >I would request the naturalization paper from the Hudson County Clerk > office. > (http://www.hudsoncountyclerk.org/) > > NATURALIZATION RECORDS - Phone: (201) 795-5678 > > Naturalization Records from 1840 to 1989 can be obtained from the Office > of > the Clerk of Hudson County. To request a Naturalization Record Search you > must send a written request and include the following information: > > The full name, date, and place of birth of the Naturalized Person > The names of his/her spouse and children > The approximate date of his/her immigration to the United States > The approximate date of his/her Naturalization or filing of his/her first > paper > Any other name(s) he/she may have used > His/Her address at the time of Naturalization > > This written request, along with a $3.00 search fee (money order only made > payable to "Clerk of Hudson County") should be mailed to: > > Office of the Clerk of Hudson County > Division of Passports > 595 Newark Avenue, Suite 407A > Jersey City, NJ 07306 > > Once the record(s) is found, an additional $2.00 per page copy fee will be > charged to the requestor. A request for a letter of verification is $5.00, > and a request for the certification of documents is $10.00 per document. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: njhudson-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:njhudson-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Lindabr25@aol.com > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:34 AM > To: davidstroebel@yahoo.com; NJHUDSON@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Documents w/ Persons Description on it? > > > > Hi, > I have the same question about my GGM from an Irish family. She died > around 1907 in Jersey City from TB. > So I would also like to know the answer to this. > Linda in Indianapolis > > > > In a message dated 4/20/2009 10:26:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > davidstroebel@yahoo.com writes: > > > My GGM lived in Jersey City from 1883 to 1911. She was a German immigrant > and died in 1911. Can someone please tell me what documents existed that > would contain her name, date of birth, height, weight, eye & hair color? > > I already have her death certificate. She became a citizen when her > husband filed papers. I'm thinking in the way of a driver's license, some > kind of > application, etc. There are no known photographs of her, or any > indication > of what she looked like. > > Thanks, > > -Dave > > > > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 > easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572844x1201387506/aol?redir=htt > p:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26 > hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooter420NO62) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUDSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUDSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUDSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUDSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I've wondered for years why none of the Boves served. Maybe they pretended they didn't understand English. They were in the US earlier than my Irish who, of course, arrived speaking English and had a leg up on everyone. My other Germans, the Gansbergs, didn't arrive in Jersey City until 1866, just after the Civil War --- but the Boves were in the US in 1851. They were good people, certainly. One son was a priest and my great-grandfather would have been young -- he was born after they arrived in 1851 -- but Johann would have been the right age and the eldest, Georg Friedrich would have been about 36-37, with a lot of kids, when the war started. --- On Mon, 4/20/09, AnnWicki@aol.com <AnnWicki@aol.com> wrote: From: AnnWicki@aol.com <AnnWicki@aol.com> Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Documents w/ Persons Description on it? To: njhudson@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 11:05 PM With reference to the fourth paragraph, but we have lots of photos of the West Hoboken Germans (none of whom served in the Civil War, interestingly). I have a relative that came over from Germany and served in the Civil War, he was wounded, died in 1926 and is buried in upstate New York. Ann in Farmingdale, NJ Genealogy: The Past Revisited _http://ngeorgia.com/history/nghisttt.html_ (http://ngeorgia.com/history/nghisttt.html) The Trail of Tears - Cherokee Indians forcibly removed from North Georgia In a message dated 4/20/2009 11:46:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maureen1024@yahoo.com writes: My Irish-American great-grandfather had a "pass through the lines" in the Civil War to let him get home to New York from Virginia. It very carefully described him as "gray eyes, fair, medium build" -- WOW! so now we know everything! Or not? It was typed on tan-colored paper about 5 inches across X 8 inches. It is a treasure. But we need to remember that the life and times were very different and we cannot have unrealistic expectations. We won't find videos of our great-grannies running a stoplight as one can find in Chicago now (I just MAY have starred in one of those this morning!) We have no photos of the New York Irish in that generation, either, and only the above description -- but we have lots of photos of the West Hoboken Germans (none of whom served in the Civil War, interestingly). It may have been a question of who could afford to hire a photographer and who had relatives elsewhere to whom they were writing and sending photos, and whose mother wanted a photo. My Irish immigrants were both Great Famine immigrants who were raised in Irish orphanages, then turned out at age 15 to fend for themselves -- so they had no one taking their First Communion pictures and such, no family traditions they knew of -- and they were lucky to get a crust of bread. I just bless and thank them for their grit and determination because I have certainly had a good life due to their strong wills and courage! --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Jeanne Thomas <gthomas1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: From: Jeanne Thomas <gthomas1@tampabay.rr.com> Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Documents w/ Persons Description on it? To: njhudson@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 7:24 PM When I was searching for naturalization info about my GGM, I recall being advised that a woman would not have naturalization records of her own, as her citizenship would have come through her husband at the time of marriage. Is this information incorrect? Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stickman" <stick_man@comcast.net> To: <njhudson@rootsweb.com>; <davidstroebel@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Documents w/ Persons Description on it? >I would request the naturalization paper from the Hudson County Clerk > office. > (http://www.hudsoncountyclerk.org/) > > NATURALIZATION RECORDS - Phone: (201) 795-5678 > > Naturalization Records from 1840 to 1989 can be obtained from the Office > of > the Clerk of Hudson County. To request a Naturalization Record Search you > must send a written request and include the following information: > > The full name, date, and place of birth of the Naturalized Person > The names of his/her spouse and children > The approximate date of his/her immigration to the United States > The approximate date of his/her Naturalization or filing of his/her first > paper > Any other name(s) he/she may have used > His/Her address at the time of Naturalization > > This written request, along with a $3.00 search fee (money order only made > payable to "Clerk of Hudson County") should be mailed to: > > Office of the Clerk of Hudson County > Division of Passports > 595 Newark Avenue, Suite 407A > Jersey City, NJ 07306 > > Once the record(s) is found, an additional $2.00 per page copy fee will be > charged to the requestor. A request for a letter of verification is $5.00, > and a request for the certification of documents is $10.00 per document. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: njhudson-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:njhudson-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Lindabr25@aol.com > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:34 AM > To: davidstroebel@yahoo.com; NJHUDSON@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Documents w/ Persons Description on it? > > > > Hi, > I have the same question about my GGM from an Irish family. She died > around 1907 in Jersey City from TB. > So I would also like to know the answer to this. > Linda in Indianapolis > > > > In a message dated 4/20/2009 10:26:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > davidstroebel@yahoo.com writes: > > > My GGM lived in Jersey City from 1883 to 1911. She was a German immigrant > and died in 1911. Can someone please tell me what documents existed that > would contain her name, date of birth, height, weight, eye & hair color? > > I already have her death certificate. She became a citizen when her > husband filed papers. I'm thinking in the way of a driver's license, some > kind of > application, etc. There are no known photographs of her, or any > indication > of what she looked like. > > Thanks, > > -Dave > > > > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 > easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572844x1201387506/aol?redir=htt > p:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26 > hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooter420NO62) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUDSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJHUDSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUDSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUDSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUDSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message