My GG Grandfather practiced medicine in Jersey City at 234 8th St. from abt. 1876 - 1899. Does anyone know if the structure at 234 8th St. would be still standing? Ray _______________________________ Ray and Joyce Horton and family "Horton Family" <sunray@erie.net> 2720 Ellsworth Ave. Erie, PA 16508 814-864-2958

Looking for information on John Wickham. He moved to West Hoboken in 1869, was active in the Doric Lodge from 1872, S.W. in 1884 and W.M. in 1885-6-7. He was born in 1824 in England. Some time between 1869 and 1888 he served as a member of the town committee, of which he was chairman. Where would I find information on the town committee during this time period? He was alive in 1888 and would have been 64. I do not find him in 1900, but have no idea when he died. Anyone have ideas how I could find a death date for him and/or his wife Rachel Eliza (Roberts) Wickham? Thanks for any clue. Cindy Clark

Just found out late last night that William Bartuska is buried in Mt. Olivet cem. in Monmouth county. I have no idea about the Ciszeski's though. Donna Patterson IttyBkShp@aol.com <A HREF="http://patterson.family.homepage.com"> http://patterson.family.homepage.com</A> Genealogy Helplist Volunteer <A HREF="http://www.helplist.org/usa/ca.shtml"> http://www.helplist.org/usa/ca.shtml</A>

Hello All, I am trying to find a cemetery or death information, or heck....anything on a William Bartuska born in Lithuania. Lived in Hudson County in the early part of the 1900's. Shows up in the 1920 census with his two daughters Anna and Julia. His wife died in 1919 apparently from an operation. On a marriage certificate for his daughter Anna Elizabeth in 1929 he is listed as Vincent Bartuska living in Kearny, NJ. From what I understand, he had a very hard life and was pawned off on an uncle around age 6. He also was illiterate. I believe that his name was William Vincent Bartuska and that is why both names have been used. I don't even know when he died and where he was buried. I know the family came to the US through Ellis Island in 1910 apparently aboard the White Star Baltic. We even have run across hints that there were two more children of his that died very young named Peter and Mary. This man would have been my husband's great grandfather and here we don't even know where he is buried or when he died. Sincerely, Donna Patterson IttyBkShp@aol.com <A HREF="http://patterson.family.homepage.com"> http://patterson.family.homepage.com</A> Genealogy Helplist Volunteer <A HREF="http://www.helplist.org/usa/ca.shtml"> http://www.helplist.org/usa/ca.shtml</A>

I forgot to enclose my contact information. Sorry, Donna Patterson IttyBkShp@aol.com <A HREF="http://patterson.family.homepage.com"> http://patterson.family.homepage.com</A> Genealogy Helplist Volunteer <A HREF="http://www.helplist.org/usa/ca.shtml"> http://www.helplist.org/usa/ca.shtml</A>

Hello, I am looking for the following surnames and any information I can find. Any help would be deeply appreciated. Francis Joseph Ciszeski married Anna Elizabeth Bartuska 9-23-1929. The place of marriage was Harrison, Hudson County, NJ. On the marriage cert there are a few hard to read names. I am hoping someone might be able to help me locate more information on them. Maybe even phone directories or census information. Francis is shown as living in Irvington, NJ at the time of marriage. Occupation was Carpenter at time of marriage. Newark is listed as his birthplace. 1st, Francis Joseph Ciszeski died Mar 22, 1990. I have yet to find an obit or death record for him. We have wondered if he ever married again. 2nd. One witness, his brother was John Seceski in Kearny. Why would their names be different if they are brothers? The parent's for Francis are listed as father's name: Joseph and mother's maiden name Mary Salia. Would love to find out more about them.

Hi Nancy, try this site. Good luck, Susan http://home.att.net/~Murg-JC/newspapers.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy <NANCYML@WORLDNET.ATT.NET> To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 12:15 PM Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] A newspaper that covered Weehauken in 1933 > Does anyone have suggestions for a newspaper/s that people would have > read for May 9th 1933 in this area of New Jersey? A lady was hit by a > car and although she did not die then she died a few weeks later of > complications. Suggestions? > Thanks, > Nancy > > ______________________________

Hi Carol, try this site. Good luck, Susan http://www.rootsweb.com/%7enjhudson/JC/1910Census.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Simmons <simmons2@mindspring.com> To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 5:22 AM Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] NJ films > Hi Everyone, > Of course the following questions are too difficult for any one > human being (smile) but I wondered how you all solved the puzzle of finding > your folks from Hudson County in these census films in regards to > Enumeration Districts and wards?????? > > 1895 NJ census------How do we find the wards for JC and West Hoboken if we > know the addresses? > > 1905 NJ census----Are the Wards for JC constant and how do we find them if > we know the addresses? > > 1910 NJ census --film numbers with EDs---how do we find the Enumeration > Districts if we know the addresses? > > 1915 NJ census---Are the wards for West Hoboken constant and how do we find > them if we know the addresses? > > Thanks for your consideration.......I love the new format on the > FamilySearch site, don't you?? > Carol > simmons2@mindspring.com > > ______________________________

Hi Folks, We are trying to find out some information on my s/o Stahl and Abato line. Anna May Stahl b. abt. 1915 Union City, NJ d. bet. 1950-1970 NJ married Eugene P. 'Mike' Abato abt. 1932 in NJ [possibly in Union City or Weehauken area] he was b. 1910 Providence, RI d. 1991 MO We would appreciate any information on these lines. Thank you, Tony and Ruth

Hi list, First of a large thank you to all those who responded to me regarding possible Mason lodges of which my G-G-Grandfather William Paynton could have been a member. I would dearly love some additional advice and help regarding Masons. I have since learned that William is buried in New York Bay Cemetery, in a section labeled "Montauk Lodge". His stone bears what looks to be the Masonite symbol. I have written to Mr. Bellini of the Grand Lodge of Free and Accepted Masons in Burlington, as per the website (http://njfreemasonry.org/) and he wrote me back that there was no information regarding William in their records. Though the name was spelled correctly on all correspondence to me, in pencil at the bottom of their official search form it says that no "Paytons" exist with a first name William. Is it worth writing back (no email listed) to make sure that they checked the right spelling? The name to be searched is spelled correctly at the top of the search page, so I'm inclined to think not. Are there any other resources that might tell me about William's membership and if he was a member of Montauk Lodge? Anyone have any info on Montauk Lodge? This seems like just to good a lead to have it unearth nothing! :) Thanks all. Mary researching Paynton, Painton in Hudson County Mary Paynton perky@wolfenet.com ************************************************************************ "Mr. Roberston, your predecessor, an excellent librarian, savaged three people last week and had to be destroyed." -Monty Python. Gorilla Librarian Sketch.

Does anyone have suggestions for a newspaper/s that people would have read for May 9th 1933 in this area of New Jersey? A lady was hit by a car and although she did not die then she died a few weeks later of complications. Suggestions? Thanks, Nancy

Hi Everyone, Of course the following questions are too difficult for any one human being (smile) but I wondered how you all solved the puzzle of finding your folks from Hudson County in these census films in regards to Enumeration Districts and wards?????? 1895 NJ census------How do we find the wards for JC and West Hoboken if we know the addresses? 1905 NJ census----Are the Wards for JC constant and how do we find them if we know the addresses? 1910 NJ census --film numbers with EDs---how do we find the Enumeration Districts if we know the addresses? 1915 NJ census---Are the wards for West Hoboken constant and how do we find them if we know the addresses? Thanks for your consideration.......I love the new format on the FamilySearch site, don't you?? Carol simmons2@mindspring.com

Hi All, I know this is a longshot but, does anyone happen to know anything of a Joe & Annie Jarvis who lived in Jersey City in the 1940s & 50s? I think they had a daughter Helen who may have married someone named Gallagher. She also resided in Jersey City. Thanks for any tid-bit of info anyone might have. June

Sunday, October 15, 2000 There is an article on the Jewish cemeteries in Newark in the New Jersey section of today's New York Times. The article also mentions the existence of a Catholic cemetery in passing. Newark is in Essex County, separated from Kearney, East Newark, and Harrison by the Passaic River and lower Jersey City and Bayonne by Newark Bay. It's a long article. The key points are: 1. "There are nearly 100 Jewish cemeteries in Newark, and most of them are monuments to vandalism and neglect ... their sponsors a mix of trade unions, congregations, and groups named for a town in the old country ... Today, except for a handful of congregations that moved out west [i.e. to the western suburbs of Newark], none of these burial societies survive." "Some 150,000 Jews" are buried in these cemeteries. 2. "The Jewish Genealogy Society, led by Alice Gould, has spent the last five years creating a registry of names that will be accessible on the Web. So far, she has collected 13,000 entries, which include the Hebrew name of the deceased, the dates of birth and death, and the location of the plot." 3. "The Jewish cemeteries of Newark will be the subject of a program Oct. 29 presented by the New Jersey Historical Society. A lecture at the society's headquarters, at 52 Park Place in Newark, will be followed by a bus tour to several cemeteries. Price: $10. Information: (973) 596-8500." 4. The United Jewish Federation of Metrowest "is trying to rehabilitate the graveyards." The federation is based in Whippany, NJ. It is considered dangerous to go to these cemeteries alone. So dangerous, in fact, that the United Jewish Federation of Metrowest sponsors an annual trip to the Newark Cemeteries so that people can visit their relatives' graves safely. The trip takes place around the High Holy Days; the group is accompanied by "a volunteer group of Jewish law enforcement officers." "On Nov. 5, Ms. Gould plans to bring another group to the Grove Street cemeteries ... members of the Essex County Sheriff's Department will be on hand to keep an eye on the workers."

Here is my two cents on the JC Cemetery. I have two deeds for a 10'x10' parcel in what is called the Jersey City & Harsimus Cemetery. They were apparently two cemeteries that were consolidated some tim before the time of my oldest deed, written in 1904. The one line on the deed that makes me hopeful that a map exists states: "...and designated on the map and survey of said Cemetery made by Earle & Harrison, 1897, (deposited in the office of the Secretary of the Trustees of the Jersey City and Harsimus Cemetery), by the number 168." The plot was last owned by my Great Grandfather, Alexander Hay. But, neither he nor the cousins he bought it from are buried there. I'd sure love to know who, if anyone, is buried in that plot. I wonder if the Hudson County Assessor's office has a copy of that map or is there one in the deed books in the county clerk's office? I did get a "free" response about 6 years ago and I believe it was from Jimmy. My Maternal grand parents first child was a victim of the influenza epidemic. He died in 1919 and I was told that his name was listed in plot 39, a mass grave reserved for those who could not afford a plot. Joe Hay in VA < jphay@hotmail.com > >From: "Dory Ann Skemp" <d.skemp@worldnet.att.net>>I was interested in the >JC Cemetery posting for I have had bad luck with >this cemetery. When I went last October (1999) to visit, there was noone >in >charge and no records and no information. The cemetery was in horrible >condition with broken stones, fallen trees (on top of stones), grass above >my waist. There was a kind older man named Jimmy (aged 87, I think) on the >site who was trying to make sense of the place because his parents were >buried there. He tried very hard to be helpful but the task there is >almost >overwhelming. I've written twice since to no avail (once to Jimmy's neice >and once to an address someone posted several months ago) and am fascinated >that there is actually someone named Flora who has records? Can you tell >me >how to find her? My grandmother Lulu Grant Harrison Boland along with her >parents Harriet Freligh Harrison and John S. Harrison -- plus others -- are >all in there somewhere. I'm willing to search (again) for headstones >although I think they've been destroyed or ruined but I'd really like to >see >the indexes. There was a plat map (without indexes) in the little >abandoned >gate house of Harsimus Cemetery? Is that the same cemetery as the Jersey >City Cemetery? Thanks for whatever information you can give me about >Flora. >Dory Boland Skemp in Rhode Island >Always searching New Jersey/New York names: Banta, Boland, Brinkerhoff, >Clendenny, Demarest, Durie, DuTreiux, Freligh, Harrison, McCutcheon, Peek, >Steynmets, Vanderlinde, VanImburgh,Westervelt > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "arnold roepken" <aroepken@optonline.net> >> field, but has thousands of burials there. Problem is there is no > > map of the cemetery there, and Flora has no idea of where the > > graves might be. Plus the owners have refused the LDS people > > to record the information there. > > If you do find a written record of a family member, all you can > > do is wave at the sea of Headstones and say hi. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Hi, NJ has marriage indices in book format covering 1848 through 1900. From 1878-1900 there are both Brides and Grooms indices. From 1901 through 1903 the index is on microfilm. From 1904 to present there are no indices Marriages from 1904 - 1940 can be searched year by year alphabetically by Grooms name at the State Archives.. After 1940 all marriage records must be searched through the Dept. of Health The Dept of Health can do marriage searches by both Brides and Grooms name. Geoffrey Cooper For more info about marriages and other NJ vital records please see my web page @ <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/NJrecords/njlookups.html">NJ LOOKUPS</A>

Have you tried city directories? I used city directories to follow my elusive Kinnaugh ancestors from New York City to Hoboken, NJ. They helped me identify a period of a few years in which my great-great-grandfather, John Kinnaugh, died and provided me with the address at which they were living during the 1880 census. Also, have you looked under H? My Kinnaugh ancestors should have been in the Soundex index for the 1880 census: they had a 9-year old son when the census was taken. When I found them, using the address from the city directory, I discovered that the K in Kinnaugh looked like an H, not a K.

Hi all! I have a HUGE request for s.k.s. I recently received my g-grandparent's marriage certificate and am trying to see who my g-grandmother was living with before she married. They married in 1907 in Jersey City. I was hoping someone could see who was living at 33 Bleecker Street in Jersey City in 1907. Thanks so much and take care Scott dePass Hamilton, Ontario CANADA sdepass@attcanada.ca

Meredith, Perhaps my luck is changing for the better. Today I spent 7hrs in the Trenton Archives, and found more relies than I even knew of. Haven't had this much luck in NY in a year. Arnold Roepken in Garden City, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mermaz@aol.com> To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] Jersey City Cemetery Input > Well, you've had more luck than most. I tried visiting and they told nme the > person who could look it up was not in. So I tried calling and still had no > luck getting an answer. I tried stopping by another day just to walk around > and they told me they were closing for the day. I have given up for now. I > have also heard that some people were told they charge $100. to have people > looked up in the index. You should definitely feel blessed! > > Meredith > > Researching: Mitchell, Brower, Sage, Hopkins, McIntyre, Williams, Lewis, Nolan > , Bailey, Mascitello, Zigmund > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes NJHUDSON possible. > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

Well, you've had more luck than most. I tried visiting and they told nme the person who could look it up was not in. So I tried calling and still had no luck getting an answer. I tried stopping by another day just to walk around and they told me they were closing for the day. I have given up for now. I have also heard that some people were told they charge $100. to have people looked up in the index. You should definitely feel blessed! Meredith Researching: Mitchell, Brower, Sage, Hopkins, McIntyre, Williams, Lewis, Nolan , Bailey, Mascitello, Zigmund