Is the death certificate that one gets from the county an exact copy of the document received from the state. I know that a county issued birth certificate is a simple typed instrument lacking much of the information that is contained on the original document available from the state. Don Lutz Virginia Beach

An interesting article in THE KEARNY OBSERVER, Arlington, New Jersey, December 24, 1925. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Why Kearney Township Seceded From Town of Harrison in 1867 What were the causes that lead to the Town of Kearny being set off from Harrison in 1868? This question may have occurred to many citizens of the town, and so far as The Observer knows, there is no man now in public life better qualified to tell the story than Edward Kenny, former town attorney of Kearny, and for many years, mayor of East Newark. Replying to a request for information, he responded as follows: When Hudson County was set off from Bergen County in 1840, the Township of Harrison included the present municipalities of Harrison, east Newark, Kearny, North Arlington, Lyndhurst, and Kingsland. In 1844, the territory which included the last three named places, was set back into Bergen County, and Belleville Turnpike was made the boundary line between the two counties. In 1867, the Township of Kearney (as it was then spelled) was set off from Harrison, and in 1875 that part of the Township of Kearney south of the Newark and Hudson Railroad was set off as the Borough of East Newark. There was not much fuss made over the latter setting off - the people of that section just voted themselves out, and after a few futile fights in court, Kearney acquiesced. In the case of the setting off of Kearney from Harrison, however, there was a fierce fight in the Legislature, which lasted for several weeks. It is said that the Harrisonians, believing they won the fight, grew careless, and that one night, the Kearneyites, led by General N. N. Halstead, had the bill brought up unexpectedly and had it passed under suspension of the rules, and that the next day they had the Governor sign it. The Governor at that time was Marcus T. Ward of Newark, an intimate friend of General Halstead. The senator from Hudson was Charles H. Winfield, and the assemblyman from this district, Charles F. Ruh. How Kearny Avenue Came to be Twisted At that time, there were only two roads running through the territory, the River Road, now Passaic Avenue, and the Back Road, now Schuyler Avenue. In 1865, commissioners were appointed to construct a road, eighty feet wide, and along the crest of the ridge (now Kearny Avenue) from the Belleville turnpike road straight through to the Turnpike bridge to Newark. Feelings of antagonism, because of the separation, ran so fiercely in Harrison, however, that the commissioners found it necessary to give the road a short turn to the east at the Jeroloman property, and join it with the northerly end of Fourth Street, Harrison. The Spelling of the Name Changed At the time of the separation and until the incorporation of the Town of Kearney in 1898, the name of the township was always spelled "Kearney" (with two e's), and that is, I think, the proper spelling, as is shown by numerous official documents; and it may be considered certain that General Halstead, Stephen K. Jeroloman, John Boyd, Colonel Josiah Conley, and the others who were active in the formation of the Township of Kearney, and who were the neighbors and contemporaries of General Phil, must have known that the latter spelled his name with two e's, and so spelled the name that way in the "Act to Incorporate the Board of Township of Kearney." Nobody seems to know why the second "e" was left off in 1898; but after all, the spelling of names is a matter of taste. That Crooked Line The separation of the town was brought about by the owners of the large farms and the owners of the fine estates along the River road. The division lines followed the lines of the farms, with one exception, and so we have the crooked lines that now exist: First, the lines of the Williams farm were followed to the northeasterly line of the Dukes farm, whence it ran straight to the back road, then straight to the turnpike, whence the line was run west to take in the Ogden farm, the line of which it followed to the Passaic river. The line, however, was extended from the Williams farm, along the Mulock farm to the middle line of Reynolds avenue, to the easterly line of River road, thence to the D. L. & W. Bridge and the river. Likewise, the line was run along the westerly line of the Back road. The reason of that was because the farms and River road residents, being obliged to travel big farm wagons and carriages, were afraid that the Harrison authorities would not keep the roads in good order. A general law passed since that time fixes the dividing line in the middle of the road, whenever the road is the dividing line. One exception, in following the farm lines in the division, was in the case of Hiram W. Davis, a turnpike tavern keeper, who had acquired several small farms, and who was anxious to have his farms included in Kearney. But Davis was greatly disliked by the farmers, and he and his farms were left out. Why the Separation - One Reason One reason given for the setting off of Kearney was that the Turnpike road (now Harrison avenue) and the neighboring streets were being thickly built up, and the people were desirous of having the streets improved. The farmers, being fearful that they might be taxed for the improvements, conceived the idea of separation, and carried it out. The Other Reason Another reason is given for the separation, which is probably the true one. At that time, the Midland Railroad of New York (now the Susquehanna) and the Midland Railroad of New Jersey (now the Greenwood Lake) were being built, both by the same set of promoters. Those promoters were out to make a fortune for themselves, which they did, the railroad-building being but an excuse. One of their schemes was to induce the municipalities along the route of the railroad to issue bonds of the municipality in exchange for a similar amount of railroad bonds. Some of the towns were allured by the proposition and issued the bonds, but some of them refused, and the railroad promoters attained that project in another way. Belleville refused to issue bonds, and the legislature set off the southerly part of it as Woodside township. The new township of Woodside immediately issued $100,000 of township bonds in exchange for railroad bonds of a similar amount. The Harrison township committee turned down the proposition, and next year, the Township of Kearney was created by the legislature. Shortly afterwards, the Kearney Township Committee voted to accept the proposition of the railroad promoters, and issued $100,000 of the township bonds in exchange for $100,000 railroad bonds. The railroad went bankrupt, and its bonds were almost worthless. Most of the towns, including Kearney, refused to pay the bonds or the interest thereon, alleging that the bonds were based on fraud. The towns were sued by the bond-holders, the case remaining in the courts for several years. The decision of the United States Supreme Court finally was that because the bonds had gotten into the hands of innocent holders, they were sacred obligations, which should be paid. Even then, Kearney refused to pay, and negotiation looking to settlement dragged on until 18887 or 1888, the town finally agreeing to issue new bonds for $148,000 in exchange for the old bonds. Incidentally, the town obtained $14,000 for the railroad bonds. Those bonds and the long extended litigation thereon, embarrassed Kearney for a long time; for the township being regarded as a defaulting municipality, could not borrow money for any purpose, anywhere. Kearny All Right Now However, the wonderful development of the Arlington section as a desirable place for fine homes, the establishment of the great Clark Thread Works, and other large factories in the southerly section, and the incomparable building up of Port Kearny, coupled with good enterprising, progressive government, backed up by a public-spirited citizenry, is now going ahead in true American fashion, and is considered to be in the front line of the most progressive and prosperous towns in the state, with a credit reputation, second to none. The building of the cantilever bridge from Arlington to Woodside would greatly help the good class of people over here too. Hudson County's share of the cost of that bridge would be much less than the county tax paid to Hudson in two years by West Hudson towns. The first Township Committee of Kearney consisted of General N. N. Halstead, John Boyd, John Van Emburgh, John L. Hewes, and Francis Newbold. The Harrison Township Committee of that year (1867) consisted of Peter Arneson, George Hutchinson, Terrence O'Donnell, John Patemen, and Aaron Whitehead.

"Ken Forbes" <excel@nwrain.com> wrote: > I have a request for a death certificate that is now over a year old > (December 26, 1999). No response yet from the State Records Center. I also > have copies of two death certificates that a private citizen sent me from > the Archives a couple of months after I requested them from the state. The > State Records Center then sent me a "NO RECORD CERTIFICATION" for those two > death certificates. I sent the proof of the apparent incompetence, > laziness, or apathy, now exhibited by the State Records Center, to both the > governor and the attorney-general. It's my opinion that the NO RECORD > CERTIFICATIONs issued by the State Records Center are not reliable, and not > evidence of a careful search. > Have you attempted to get your death certificates from Hudson County? When the state put a moratorium on genealogy requests I began requesting everything from the county. Only once were they not able to find a record (my grandfathers death certificate) which I later found myself in Trenton. The response time, for me, has been about 3 weeks. The address is: Room 407 Administration Bldg. 595 Newark Avenue Jersey City, NJ 07306-2301 -- Judy Lamken, Kilkee Kerries Hoffman Estates, IL mailto:kilkee@mediaone.net "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion" -- Unknown

Looking for obituary of Vincent Victor Cartier who died in a fencing accident November 07, 1939 Hudson Co NJ. Kindest regards from southern CA. Charlene email: mihnbu@aol.com

Hello, I'm looking for any information on a Van PATTERSON his middle name could possibly be "Bourne". He may have been born in Maine in the 1890s. Moved to New York for a while then settled in New Jersey. Possibly Hoboken. I know this is a lot of "maybes" but that is all I have at the moment. Thank you for any help. Kathy Latimer (kjlatsj@aol.com)

I just received a photo today from relatives that is circa 1890 of my grandfather's class photo......I am guessing that he is 8-10 years old in the photo. He probably lived at either 39 Harrison Ave, Harrison or 524 Central Ave......East Newark or Harrison...............Any clues where he might have gone to school? Were there catholic grade schools during that time? Any help you can offer would be apreciated. I have scanned the photo and it can be found at http://members.aol.com/arthurh583/images/achschool.gif Thanks in advance..............Arthur Arthur Hoey New York, NY Email: arthur_hoey@csi.com Web: http://members.aol.com/arthurh583/index.html

I thought you would be interested. "East Newark" was the name of an area larger than the borough limits set by incorporation to 0.1 square miles in 1895. I've seen this in several documents that I've acquired. My 2nd great-grandfather died at 45 Reynolds Avenue, East Newark, in 1880 (death certificate). This address is clearly in Harrison today. There was the East Newark Baptist Church (1892-1894) at the corner of North 4th and Cross Streets. The name of East Newark wouldn't fit this organization today because the location is in Harrison. Please read the following transcribed excerpt**: "When General Kearny died in 1862, the newspaper referred to Belle Grove as being located in East Newark, and this section, as a whole, long before the East Newark Borough was incorporated, seems to have gone by this convenient name." **Daniel Van Winkle, History of the Municipalities of Hudson County, New Jersey, 1630-1923, Volume I, (Lewis Historical Publishing Company, Inc., New York and Chicago, 1924), page 362. I am transcribing a 1925 Kearny Observer article with interesting facts about Kearny, Harrison, and East Newark (West Hudson County). I hope to post it on the mailing list tomorrow. Ken Forbes Puyallup, WA

The State Archives is now at 225 W. State Street instead of 185 W. State - they moved to larger and more luxurious facilities. If you're ever in NJ it's worth a day researching there. PO box may be the same though. Marcelle Ken Forbes wrote: > > Hello Don, > > I've confused the State Records Center with the Bureau of Vital Statistics > (VS). I included the Hudson County mailing list in my response to you to > expose my mistake. Regardless, the VS has not performed appropriately. I > have no independent way of determining whether they have a record or not. > The evidence, I have, seems to say that they did not do their job. The only > avenue I have is to roll the burden of proof back to them. > > Ken Forbes > Puyallup, WA > > New Jersey Department of Health and Senior Services > Vital Statistics Registration > P. O. Box 370 > Trenton, NJ 08625-0370 > 609-292-4087 > http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/vs11.htm > > STATE ARCHIVES > 185 West State Street-Level 2 > (New Jersey State Library Building) > P.O. Box 307 > Trenton, NJ 08625-0307 > (609) 292-6260 (general information) > (609) 633-8334 (administrative office) > (609) 396-2454 (fax) > > STATE RECORDS CENTER > (Location of Division Administration, Records Management & Micrographics) > 2300 Stuyvesant Ave. > P.O. Box 307 > Trenton, NJ 08625-0307 > (609) 530-3200 (general information) > (609) 530-3267 (administrative office) > (609) 530-6121 (fax) > > http://www.state.nj.us/state/darm/address.html > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > Visit the Hudson County N.J. GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/

Hi Theresa: I would say that something has gone wrong if they cashed your check in October and you still haven't received the certificate. I also sent in a request in September and my check was not cashed until Dec. That's when I knew to expect the record "soon" It came about 2-3 weeks after they cashed my check. So, it took about 4 months. I got an answer from Social Security quicker!!! There was a period of time when NJ was not filling requests for genealogical purposes! (early 1990's if I remember correctly). Chris S. Donald Lutz wrote: > Hang on! It takes 4 - 5 months to get a certificate from the State Dept of > Health & Senior Services. The volume of requests is increasing, but the > staff is not. Gone are the days when we could get a certificate in 3 weeks. > Don Lutz > Virginia Beach > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <TWD151@aol.com> > To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 3:54 PM > Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] Death Certificate Request > > > I sent a request and a check to the State Registrar NJ Health Dept. of > Health > > on Sept. 24, 2000. The check was cashed October 27, 2000. It is now Jan. > 6, > > 2001 and I have not heard one word from that august Department. Is this > the > > usual amount of time it takes to get an answer? I'm getting just little > bit > > weary waiting. > > > > Anyone with similar experience? Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > Theresa > > TWD151@aol.com > > > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > > Use NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com to write to the NJHUDSON list. > > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the NJHUDSON list, use > > NJHUDSON-L-request@rootsweb.com. > > > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes NJHUDSON possible. > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Hello Don, I've confused the State Records Center with the Bureau of Vital Statistics (VS). I included the Hudson County mailing list in my response to you to expose my mistake. Regardless, the VS has not performed appropriately. I have no independent way of determining whether they have a record or not. The evidence, I have, seems to say that they did not do their job. The only avenue I have is to roll the burden of proof back to them. Ken Forbes Puyallup, WA New Jersey Department of Health and Senior Services Vital Statistics Registration P. O. Box 370 Trenton, NJ 08625-0370 609-292-4087 http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/vs11.htm STATE ARCHIVES 185 West State Street-Level 2 (New Jersey State Library Building) P.O. Box 307 Trenton, NJ 08625-0307 (609) 292-6260 (general information) (609) 633-8334 (administrative office) (609) 396-2454 (fax) STATE RECORDS CENTER (Location of Division Administration, Records Management & Micrographics) 2300 Stuyvesant Ave. P.O. Box 307 Trenton, NJ 08625-0307 (609) 530-3200 (general information) (609) 530-3267 (administrative office) (609) 530-6121 (fax) http://www.state.nj.us/state/darm/address.html

It is your opinion, but do you have any proof that the record is with the State Dept of Health & Senior Services? I also have received many "No Record" responses. Don Lutz Virginia Beach ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Forbes" <excel@nwrain.com> To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] Death Certificate Request > Hello Theresa and Everyone Else, > > I have a request for a death certificate that is now over a year old > (December 26, 1999). No response yet from the State Records Center. I also > have copies of two death certificates that a private citizen sent me from > the Archives a couple of months after I requested them from the state. The > State Records Center then sent me a "NO RECORD CERTIFICATION" for those two > death certificates. I sent the proof of the apparent incompetence, > laziness, or apathy, now exhibited by the State Records Center, to both the > governor and the attorney-general. It's my opinion that the NO RECORD > CERTIFICATIONs issued by the State Records Center are not reliable, and not > evidence of a careful search. > > The response time for certificates used to be approximately 30 days, but the > State Records Center has moved to a new "state-of-the-art" facility and the > response time and product are now dismal. > > You may want to send your complaints to the following addresses: > > Christine Todd-Whitman > Office of the Governor > P.O. Box 001 > Trenton, NJ 08625 > Telephone (609) 292-6000 > > > John Farmer > Office of the Attorney General > Hughes Justice Complex > 25 Market Street - PO Box 080 > Trenton, NJ 08625-0080 > Telephone (609) 292-8740 > Fax (609) 292-3508 > > Ken Forbes > Puyallup, WA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <TWD151@aol.com> > To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 12:54 PM > Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] Death Certificate Request > > > > I sent a request and a check to the State Registrar NJ Health Dept. of > Health > > on Sept. 24, 2000. The check was cashed October 27, 2000. It is now Jan. > 6, > > 2001 and I have not heard one word from that august Department. Is this > the > > usual amount of time it takes to get an answer? I'm getting just little > bit > > weary waiting. > > > > Anyone with similar experience? Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > Theresa > > TWD151@aol.com > > > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > > Use NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com to write to the NJHUDSON list. > > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the NJHUDSON list, use > > NJHUDSON-L-request@rootsweb.com. > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > New people subscribe to and unsubscribe from the list each week. > You are encouraged to resubmit your queries two or three times > per year to reach new listmembers. > >

Hang on! It takes 4 - 5 months to get a certificate from the State Dept of Health & Senior Services. The volume of requests is increasing, but the staff is not. Gone are the days when we could get a certificate in 3 weeks. Don Lutz Virginia Beach ----- Original Message ----- From: <TWD151@aol.com> To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 3:54 PM Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] Death Certificate Request > I sent a request and a check to the State Registrar NJ Health Dept. of Health > on Sept. 24, 2000. The check was cashed October 27, 2000. It is now Jan. 6, > 2001 and I have not heard one word from that august Department. Is this the > usual amount of time it takes to get an answer? I'm getting just little bit > weary waiting. > > Anyone with similar experience? Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Theresa > TWD151@aol.com > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > Use NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com to write to the NJHUDSON list. > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the NJHUDSON list, use > NJHUDSON-L-request@rootsweb.com. > >

In a message dated 01/06/2001 4:41:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, excel@nwrain.com writes: > . The > State Records Center then sent me a "NO RECORD CERTIFICATION" for those two > death certificates. I sent the proof of the apparent incompetence, > I received the above also and I know the date my gggrandmother died. Maybe I should go the "private look-up" route. Thanks Ann Victoria

They died, Don. And I have a copy of the Archives record. It's the Archives which has a limited amount of records. The State Records Center has them all. Ken Forbes Puyallup, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: Donald Lutz <pegadon@earthlink.net> To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] Death Certificate Request > It is your opinion, but do you have any proof that the record is with the > State Dept of Health & Senior Services? I also have received many "No > Record" responses. > Don Lutz > Virginia Beach > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Forbes" <excel@nwrain.com> > To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 4:38 PM > Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] Death Certificate Request > > > > Hello Theresa and Everyone Else, > > > > I have a request for a death certificate that is now over a year old > > (December 26, 1999). No response yet from the State Records Center. I > also > > have copies of two death certificates that a private citizen sent me from > > the Archives a couple of months after I requested them from the state. > The > > State Records Center then sent me a "NO RECORD CERTIFICATION" for those > two > > death certificates. I sent the proof of the apparent incompetence, > > laziness, or apathy, now exhibited by the State Records Center, to both > the > > governor and the attorney-general. It's my opinion that the NO RECORD > > CERTIFICATIONs issued by the State Records Center are not reliable, and > not > > evidence of a careful search. > > > > The response time for certificates used to be approximately 30 days, but > the > > State Records Center has moved to a new "state-of-the-art" facility and > the > > response time and product are now dismal. > > > > You may want to send your complaints to the following addresses: > > > > Christine Todd-Whitman > > Office of the Governor > > P.O. Box 001 > > Trenton, NJ 08625 > > Telephone (609) 292-6000 > > > > > > John Farmer > > Office of the Attorney General > > Hughes Justice Complex > > 25 Market Street - PO Box 080 > > Trenton, NJ 08625-0080 > > Telephone (609) 292-8740 > > Fax (609) 292-3508 > > > > Ken Forbes > > Puyallup, WA > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <TWD151@aol.com> > > To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 12:54 PM > > Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] Death Certificate Request > > > > > > > I sent a request and a check to the State Registrar NJ Health Dept. of > > Health > > > on Sept. 24, 2000. The check was cashed October 27, 2000. It is now > Jan. > > 6, > > > 2001 and I have not heard one word from that august Department. Is this > > the > > > usual amount of time it takes to get an answer? I'm getting just little > > bit > > > weary waiting. > > > > > > Anyone with similar experience? Any suggestions? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Theresa > > > TWD151@aol.com > > > > > > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > > > Use NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com to write to the NJHUDSON list. > > > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the NJHUDSON list, use > > > NJHUDSON-L-request@rootsweb.com. > > > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > > New people subscribe to and unsubscribe from the list each week. > > You are encouraged to resubmit your queries two or three times > > per year to reach new listmembers. > > > > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > If you are unsubscribed from the NJHUDSON list unintentionally, simply > resubscribe. A full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be > unsubscribed.

I sent a request and a check to the State Registrar NJ Health Dept. of Health on Sept. 24, 2000. The check was cashed October 27, 2000. It is now Jan. 6, 2001 and I have not heard one word from that august Department. Is this the usual amount of time it takes to get an answer? I'm getting just little bit weary waiting. Anyone with similar experience? Any suggestions? Thanks, Theresa TWD151@aol.com

On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 18:06:55 EST, AnnWicki@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 01/06/2001 4:41:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, > excel@nwrain.com writes: > > > > . The > > State Records Center then sent me a "NO RECORD CERTIFICATION" for those two > > death certificates. I sent the proof of the apparent incompetence, > > > I received the above also and I know the date my gggrandmother died. Maybe I > should go the "private look-up" route. > > Thanks > > Ann Victoria > > I gave up long ago waiting for the State of NJ to find documents for me..I go the private route. I got sick of the state's "NO RECORD CERTIFICATION". New York is not much better tho. Bruce Eckert Still searching: ECKERT, WIRTH, CASCIO all from Bayonne. > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > Use NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com to write to the NJHUDSON list. > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the NJHUDSON list, use > NJHUDSON-L-request@rootsweb.com. > _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/

Hello Theresa and Everyone Else, I have a request for a death certificate that is now over a year old (December 26, 1999). No response yet from the State Records Center. I also have copies of two death certificates that a private citizen sent me from the Archives a couple of months after I requested them from the state. The State Records Center then sent me a "NO RECORD CERTIFICATION" for those two death certificates. I sent the proof of the apparent incompetence, laziness, or apathy, now exhibited by the State Records Center, to both the governor and the attorney-general. It's my opinion that the NO RECORD CERTIFICATIONs issued by the State Records Center are not reliable, and not evidence of a careful search. The response time for certificates used to be approximately 30 days, but the State Records Center has moved to a new "state-of-the-art" facility and the response time and product are now dismal. You may want to send your complaints to the following addresses: Christine Todd-Whitman Office of the Governor P.O. Box 001 Trenton, NJ 08625 Telephone (609) 292-6000 John Farmer Office of the Attorney General Hughes Justice Complex 25 Market Street - PO Box 080 Trenton, NJ 08625-0080 Telephone (609) 292-8740 Fax (609) 292-3508 Ken Forbes Puyallup, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: <TWD151@aol.com> To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 12:54 PM Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] Death Certificate Request > I sent a request and a check to the State Registrar NJ Health Dept. of Health > on Sept. 24, 2000. The check was cashed October 27, 2000. It is now Jan. 6, > 2001 and I have not heard one word from that august Department. Is this the > usual amount of time it takes to get an answer? I'm getting just little bit > weary waiting. > > Anyone with similar experience? Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Theresa > TWD151@aol.com > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > Use NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com to write to the NJHUDSON list. > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the NJHUDSON list, use > NJHUDSON-L-request@rootsweb.com.

Kimmerly, Bertha Hudson Co. 16 W. Jersey City,N.J. Pg.611 1870 Thank you! Gert

Dudley, In the birth index covering 1890-1900 I see 3 children born to a father "O" all in Jersey City: Un-Named male, 8-2-1897 Dudley, 11-26-1891 Elmer, 3-19-1894 Geoffrey Cooper

There were state census's in 1885 and 1895. I've used the 1895 Jersey City census. Order it from your Family History Center. Their dates of death can be determined within five years from the census. Then order a death certificate from the N.J. state archives, the fee is $10 and includes a five year search time frame. From that you will have their date of death. Don Lutz Virginia Beach ----- Original Message ----- From: <DudleyPritchard@cs.com> To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 12:36 AM Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] How to find date of death for female ancestors > Hello to all: I hope that everyone had an enjoyable holiday season. My > question is this I have 2 female ancestords that passed away prior to 1900. I > found only there husbands on the 1900 cenus. How would I be able to find > there dates of death. both were in jeresy city for the 1880 census the 1890 > census is not available. Is there an 1885 and 1895 Jersey city census?. And > would they be listed if they were still alive or is a state census more just > head of house hold. Any ideas on how to proceed will be greatly appreciated. > > Thank You, > Dudley Pritchard > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > If you are unsubscribed from the NJHUDSON list unintentionally, simply > resubscribe. A full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be > unsubscribed. > >