for Hudson County vital records: $7.00 (in person - not sure about mail) County Health Dept. 595 Newark Avenue Jersey City, NJ hope this helps someone. I hate to pay the $7.00, but even if you send for it from the state for $4.00, you have to wait FOREVER to get stuff. Marcelle

The monastery is a landmark. I walked past it as a child and am now amazed that it is visible from many miles away as you are approaching Union City from the turnpike exit in Secaucus. ST. Michael's monastery was 2 square street blocks large. It was to be razed and condos constructed there -- nuns were unable to hang onto the site, just weren't able to maintain it anymore (cost). I believe that I read that there was a handful of nuns left at the time. I'm happy to say that the church and monastery were taken over by a Korean churchgroup -- and part of the grounds are now used as a recreation field and track. Location was 18-21st St. and Summit Avenue to West St. in Union City -- formerly West Hoboken. I have no idea where the records may be kept and do not know the order of the nuns for the monastery. The monastery is a landmark. I walked past it as a child and am now amazed that it is visible from many miles away as you are approaching Union City from the turnpike exit in Secaucus. Claire ----- Original Message ----- From: "jw" <judyw@gte.net> To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 10:28 PM Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] Monastery in Hoboken | I am interested in knowing the whereabouts of records for St Michaels | monastery in what was called West Hoboken in the early 1900's. Also, where | was West Hoboken? is it just Hoboken now ? | Are the records available to the public? and if they are where and how? | | I am looking for my Aunt Domenica SPINA who came to US in 1912 and I believe | entered a convent. I was hoping to find some kind of information about a | convent in these records. | Does anyone know of a convent in Hoboken or Jersey City that would have been | around during 1915-30? | | thanks | Judy Williamsjudyw@gte.net | | | ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== | New people subscribe to and unsubscribe from the list each week. | You are encouraged to resubmit your queries two or three times | per year to reach new listmembers. |

Addresses in Union City (formerly West Hoboken & Union Hill) changed after the incorporation in 1925. The post office in UC has the conversion for the addresses -- I was able to obtain what I needed last year. You have to tell them that there is a conversion directory that the Hudson Dispatch Newspaper printed around 1945 or 48. They had it downstairs somewhere -- I would ask for the postmaster and refer to that. The town hall assessor's office (Sally) was going to make a copy for themselves -- I don;t know if they actually did. But also Weehawken and West New York addresses were affected as well. New WNY addresses added "44" to the old numbered streets -- 11th Street became 55th street. In Weehawken, 4th Street became 48th Street -- seems like same thing. So refer to the what the date was for the address you are looking for. There may have been impacts on other towns as well. Hope this helps. Claire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Buckey" <kbuckey@hotmail.com> To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 8:08 PM Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] Union City Street Name Changes | I understand that what was once Elm Street in West Hoboken/Union City is now | 29th Street. Can anyone tell me what Walnut Street is now? Would 259 | Clinton Avenue still be in Union City, or was that part of Clinton Avenue | renamed (it's showing as Jersey City when I try to map it)? Thanks all! | | Kim in Michigan | _________________________________________________________________ | Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com | | | ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== | Visit the Hudson County N.J. GenWeb page at: | http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/ | |

Would anyone be able to tell me which Ward 53 Van Reipen Ave, Jersey City, Hudson Co., would be in for the 1895 NJ State Census? The LDS shows 6 rolls of film consisting of 12 Wards. I would like to narrow it down. Any help would be appreciated. Looking for collateral line William Francis EGAN and Marian MUNDAY. I have them at that address in 1893. Mary Ellen Walz billme@verizon.net

St. Michael's records are at the Archdiocese of Newark Archives at Seton Hall University. In 1992 we found a dedicated archivist on their staff named something like Ellen McManamon who got all our stuff in 90 minutes and charged only $6.00 per hour! It broke my heart to see the Monastery go to wreck and ruin and then demolition. My great grandfather was the carpenter contractor on the Monastery and we were very proud of this beautiful building. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "MARY & BOB MC DONALD" <marybob.mcd@worldnet.att.net> To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] Monastery in Hoboken > HI > St Michael's monastery was located in Union City,N.J. and is no longer > in existence. I have no idea where the records may be. Good luck. > Bob McDonald > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jw" <judyw@gte.net> > To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 10:28 PM > Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] Monastery in Hoboken > > > > I am interested in knowing the whereabouts of records for St Michaels > > monastery in what was called West Hoboken in the early 1900's. Also, where > > was West Hoboken? is it just Hoboken now ? > > Are the records available to the public? and if they are where and how? > > > > I am looking for my Aunt Domenica SPINA who came to US in 1912 and I > believe > > entered a convent. I was hoping to find some kind of information about a > > convent in these records. > > Does anyone know of a convent in Hoboken or Jersey City that would have > been > > around during 1915-30? > > > > thanks > > Judy Williamsjudyw@gte.net > > > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > > New people subscribe to and unsubscribe from the list each week. > > You are encouraged to resubmit your queries two or three times > > per year to reach new listmembers. > > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > If you are unsubscribed from the NJHUDSON list unintentionally, simply > resubscribe. A full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be > unsubscribed. > > >

Kathy, I don't know of a Van Patterson in our line, but I do have quite a bit of Patterson research if you need it. Can't remember if I've sent it in the past? Donna Patterson IttyBkShp@aol.com <A HREF="http://pattersonfamily.50megs.com">http://pattersonfamily.50megs.com</A>

HI St Michael's monastery was located in Union City,N.J. and is no longer in existence. I have no idea where the records may be. Good luck. Bob McDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: "jw" <judyw@gte.net> To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 10:28 PM Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] Monastery in Hoboken > I am interested in knowing the whereabouts of records for St Michaels > monastery in what was called West Hoboken in the early 1900's. Also, where > was West Hoboken? is it just Hoboken now ? > Are the records available to the public? and if they are where and how? > > I am looking for my Aunt Domenica SPINA who came to US in 1912 and I believe > entered a convent. I was hoping to find some kind of information about a > convent in these records. > Does anyone know of a convent in Hoboken or Jersey City that would have been > around during 1915-30? > > thanks > Judy Williamsjudyw@gte.net > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > New people subscribe to and unsubscribe from the list each week. > You are encouraged to resubmit your queries two or three times > per year to reach new listmembers. >

West Hoboken is now part of Union City. There is still a convent there. I think it's around Central Avenue or Summit Avenue in the teens but I'm not sure of the exact address.

I'm in the same boat as Judy. I would love to find someone who would locate and gather Hudson County records for me. I'm in Florida, also. Please contact me with rates,etc. Regards, Karen Isley Seiferth

I am interested in finding someone to pull records in Jersey City and Hoboken at a resonable rate. I live in Florida and can not travel to North thanks, Judy Williams judyw@gte.net

I am interested in knowing the whereabouts of records for St Michaels monastery in what was called West Hoboken in the early 1900's. Also, where was West Hoboken? is it just Hoboken now ? Are the records available to the public? and if they are where and how? I am looking for my Aunt Domenica SPINA who came to US in 1912 and I believe entered a convent. I was hoping to find some kind of information about a convent in these records. Does anyone know of a convent in Hoboken or Jersey City that would have been around during 1915-30? thanks Judy Williamsjudyw@gte.net

I understand that what was once Elm Street in West Hoboken/Union City is now 29th Street. Can anyone tell me what Walnut Street is now? Would 259 Clinton Avenue still be in Union City, or was that part of Clinton Avenue renamed (it's showing as Jersey City when I try to map it)? Thanks all! Kim in Michigan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hi all, I recently learned that much of the information can now be obtained from the town Health Dept -- as far as births anyway -- I believe that as of a certain year the information was given to the localites to handle -- probably the more recent -- I'll have to check as to what year onward this is in the towns themselves and get back to you with the information. But I've obtained my family info from the Hudson County office -- not the State. Easy for me because I'm still in NJ and drove to Jersey City which is much closer to me than the State archives. Claire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Shelly" <mcshelly2@msn.com> To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] Re: Death Certificate Request | What is the cost for Hudson County DCs? Do they also provide birth and | marriage certificates? | | Maureen in Wlmette, IL | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Judy Lamken" <kilkee@mediaone.net> | To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 4:47 AM | Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] Re: Death Certificate Request | | | > "Ken Forbes" <excel@nwrain.com> wrote: | > | > > I have a request for a death certificate that is now over a year old | > > (December 26, 1999). No response yet from the State Records Center. I | also | > > have copies of two death certificates that a private citizen sent me | from | > > the Archives a couple of months after I requested them from the state. | The | > > State Records Center then sent me a "NO RECORD CERTIFICATION" for those | two | > > death certificates. I sent the proof of the apparent incompetence, | > > laziness, or apathy, now exhibited by the State Records Center, to both | the | > > governor and the attorney-general. It's my opinion that the NO RECORD | > > CERTIFICATIONs issued by the State Records Center are not reliable, and | not | > > evidence of a careful search. | > > | > | > Have you attempted to get your death certificates from Hudson County? | > When the state put a moratorium on genealogy requests I began requesting | > everything from the county. Only once were they not able to find a | > record (my grandfathers death certificate) which I later found myself in | > Trenton. The response time, for me, has been about 3 weeks. The | > address is: | > Room 407 Administration Bldg. | > 595 Newark Avenue | > Jersey City, NJ 07306-2301 | > | > -- | > Judy Lamken, Kilkee Kerries | > Hoffman Estates, IL mailto:kilkee@mediaone.net | > | > "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his | > life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the | > last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion" | > -- Unknown | > | > | > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== | > If you are unsubscribed from the NJHUDSON list unintentionally, simply | > resubscribe. A full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to | be | > unsubscribed. | > | > | > | | | ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== | Your donations to RootsWeb makes NJHUDSON possible. | RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 | http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html | |

If you are not aware, the NJ State Archives moved their facilities this past year, so they didn't fill requests for a few months. Therefore, I am sure there is a backlog of requests waiting to be filled. Be patient, they'll get to it I'm sure, but they are busy. Marcelle

Teresa Hang in there. I sent for info from NJ in August. The check was cashed in October but I have received nothing to date. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <TWD151@aol.com> To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 7:54 AM Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] Death Certificate Request > I sent a request and a check to the State Registrar NJ Health Dept. of Health > on Sept. 24, 2000. The check was cashed October 27, 2000. It is now Jan. 6, > 2001 and I have not heard one word from that august Department. Is this the > usual amount of time it takes to get an answer? I'm getting just little bit > weary waiting. > > Anyone with similar experience? Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Theresa > TWD151@aol.com > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > Use NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com to write to the NJHUDSON list. > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the NJHUDSON list, use > NJHUDSON-L-request@rootsweb.com. >

What is the cost for Hudson County DCs? Do they also provide birth and marriage certificates? Maureen in Wlmette, IL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Lamken" <kilkee@mediaone.net> To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 4:47 AM Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] Re: Death Certificate Request > "Ken Forbes" <excel@nwrain.com> wrote: > > > I have a request for a death certificate that is now over a year old > > (December 26, 1999). No response yet from the State Records Center. I also > > have copies of two death certificates that a private citizen sent me from > > the Archives a couple of months after I requested them from the state. The > > State Records Center then sent me a "NO RECORD CERTIFICATION" for those two > > death certificates. I sent the proof of the apparent incompetence, > > laziness, or apathy, now exhibited by the State Records Center, to both the > > governor and the attorney-general. It's my opinion that the NO RECORD > > CERTIFICATIONs issued by the State Records Center are not reliable, and not > > evidence of a careful search. > > > > Have you attempted to get your death certificates from Hudson County? > When the state put a moratorium on genealogy requests I began requesting > everything from the county. Only once were they not able to find a > record (my grandfathers death certificate) which I later found myself in > Trenton. The response time, for me, has been about 3 weeks. The > address is: > Room 407 Administration Bldg. > 595 Newark Avenue > Jersey City, NJ 07306-2301 > > -- > Judy Lamken, Kilkee Kerries > Hoffman Estates, IL mailto:kilkee@mediaone.net > > "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his > life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the > last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion" > -- Unknown > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > If you are unsubscribed from the NJHUDSON list unintentionally, simply > resubscribe. A full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be > unsubscribed. > > >

Hi - Does anyone have a subscription to Kindred Konnections that would be willing to do a lookup? There was one hit for my search that I am interested in: John T. Mellor, born 1820 - father unknown. Thanks to anyone that can help. Wendy Schmoyer

Hi HUDSON listers, I want to thank all of you who answered my query re the length of time it takes to get a certificate from the State. The consensus? A long time. Since my check was cashed about 10 weeks ago, I'm going to hang in a while longer, maybe it will come THIS week! Hope spring eternal. Theresa

Thank you all so very much for all the direct replies I had received from many of my other inquiries. I am looking for an obituary of my great grandfather Armandus KOEPPER b February 05, 1862 Hamburg Germany died February 19, 1925 Union Hudson Co. New Jersey married Augusta "Mary" (Hesser) LUTZ (nothing further on Augusta). DEATH CERT INFO: Armandus Koepper, Jr. residence: 183 Hudson Ave. Union, widowed, wife: Augusta Hesser, date of birth: Feb 5, 1864, age: 61 yrs 14 days, Occupation: Bartender, birthplace: Germany, Informant: Julius Koepper 417 Rossouth Street, Union, date of death: Feb 19, 1925. burial: Feb 22, 1925 1900 Census, T715 roll 64 New Jersey Vol 32 ed 56 sheet 6 line 4 Amondos born Feb 1862 age 32 (Deu), Augusta born 1862 age 32 (Deu), Willie born July 1885 age 14 (Deu), Julia born August 1888 age 11 (Deu), Frederick born Sept 1891 age 9 (Deu), August born March 1893 age 7 (Deu), Emma born March 1896 age 4 (Deu), Louis born March 1896 age 4 (Deu), daughter born May 1897 age 3 (Deu), Armonda born Nov 1899 age 1 (NJ), and Ana Sheid born January 1887 age 13 of New Jersey. June 20, 1898 - SS Pretoria ship manifest, Hamburg Germany to Port of New York arrival July 03, 1898. Microfilm: T715, Roll 25, Pg. 40, Line 1-9 National Archives and Records, 7th and Pennsylvania Ave. NW., Washington DC 20408 ANY KOEPPER COUSINS OUT THERE? Happy and Healthy 2001 to all ..... Charlene email: mihnbu@aol.com

Hi Don & Everyone, It has been my experience with the county certificates that they are - as you said - typed out, and sometimes lacking some of the information found on the "original" that you get from the state. When I first started genealogical research in NJ I used to send to the county for the vital records I needed. Then one day I had to send to Trenton, and realized that Trenton sent you a copy of the actual certificate. I sent to Trenton for copies of the certificates I had gotten from he counties, and actually found some leads on the ones from Trenton that were not on the ones from the county. I also found that one of the typed ones actually had some major errors compared to the copy of the original. To date I have always gotten my certificates from the Dept. of Health & Senior Services - haven't used the archives yet. I always let them know that I am a direct descendant and that the copy is for family medical records. That usually takes care of them blacking out the cause of death on the more recent death certificates. It used to only take about a month for a response from Trenton, but the last few certificates I have requested have taken 4-6 months. I have also noticed that once they cash your check it takes about 4-6 weeks to get your certificate. Kris Goszka Warsaw, VA At 09:14 AM 01/07/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Is the death certificate that one gets from the county an exact copy of the >document received from the state. I know that a county issued birth >certificate is a simple typed instrument lacking much of the information >that is contained on the original document available from the state. >Don Lutz >Virginia Beach > > >==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > Use NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com to write to the NJHUDSON list. > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the NJHUDSON list, use > NJHUDSON-L-request@rootsweb.com.