Hi Evelyn, Would you mind looking in your Germans to America book to see if any Nesbihal's are listed. Thanks, Eric

The Family History Center just got the 1870 Census Index for New Jersey Anybody want me to look something up?? Chris

Looking for the OBITUARY of our 11 year old ancestor who drowned, Marietta "Mae" RAWLINS b January 10, 1887 Union Twp., Hudson Co New Jersey d Weehawken, Hudson Co New Jersey (11 yrs old). New Jersey Birth Register: January 10, 1887, Union Twp., Hudson Co Marietta Rawlins born on 69 Lewis Street, Union Township, to Daniel Rawlins, 23, silkweaver, born England; and his wife, Catherine Frosio (hard to read as the film is very light), aged 21, born in New Jersey. First child born to the union, one alive. OFFICE OF THE COUNTY PHYSICIAN OF HUDSON COUNTY NEW JERSEY R-10 May Rawlins, 11 yrs, 5 months, 12 days, color white, birthplace: New Jersey, Last place of residence: 709 Shippen Street West Hoboken, Place of death: Delaware and Hudson, Canal Basin, Weehawken, Father: Daniel, Country of birth: England, Mother: Kate, Country of birth: New York, Place of burial: Flower Hill Cemetery 5433 Kennedy Blvd. No. Bergen Hudson Co NJ

I have a few obits that were on the same pages that I copied. If you're interested, let me know. Marcelle Mundy, Rebecca d. Feb. 7, 1913 Anderson, Carl E. d. April 19, 1927 Belue, Irene (nee Willis) d. April 19, 1927 Curry, Hannah M. (nee Harnett) d. April 20, 1927 Dettlinger, Sidney d. April 21, 1927 Dickerson, Mary E. d. April 18, 1927 Mallon, Hugh C. d. April 21, 1927 Matthews, May d. April 19, 1927 McConville, Lillian (nee King) d. April 20, 1927 McKnight, Harriet d. April 19, 1927

A handwritten note from the books of St. Michaels: "Holy Communion records from 5/25/1911 - 6/29/1923 non existent due to fire at binders." __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

>From St. Joseph and St. Michaels combined books: BROSNEN and ROCK: Feb 4, 1883, Cornelium Brosnen (32 years old) of Union Hill, NJ son of "Patritii e Mariiae" (I do not know what this means in Latin mother and father perhaps?) Brosnen and Marian Rock (26 years old) of Union Hill, NJ daughter of "Patritii e Mariae" Rock. Witnesses: Patritio McCarthy and Maria Moley married by Laurentino Moesiein (sp?) CP. I can't recall how closely I looked for the baptisimal record of Mary Brosnen. If you e-mail me again I'll look for it again next week. My time at the center was running out. Theresa __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

ROONEY and DOUGHERTY surnames are listed in both St. Josephs and St. Michaels but I cannot find a record of them marrying eachother. METZELAAR: no listing found USHER: No listing found NOTRE, DOVE, Van Dael, ROUSSELL: no listings found __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

GANSBERG: I did not find any listing for this surname in the books I had. Are you sure they went to St. Michaels in union City? SCULLY-NECKLEN: sorry nothing in any of the indexes LYNCH: There were some Lynch's in the St, Joseph books but none that married Ruth Necklen NECKLEN: this surname was not listed in any indexes. __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

In St. Michael's Church Combined Birth and Marriag Register 1880-1883 the index lists "Feinan" "Finien" and "Finen". The handwritten note beside "Feinan" says "This is right." Charles William Feinan bapt 28 Feb. 1868(son of)Peter Feinman (and) Anna Kinn (I cannot read the sponsors names due to bleed through of the ink) Michael Finien bapt. 15 Mar 1870 b. 14 May 1866 Peter and Anna Kann (sic) sponsors: Michael Finien and Lucia Bakorchey (sp?) This entry was confusing but interesting if you can figure it out: Frances Fienan (Finan) b. May 15, 1906 of Catherine Fienan (Finan) "illigitematus adoptetus" sponsors Thomas Feinan and Anna Fienan Confirmation:10/19/1865 Luley Finen age 15 confirmation name: Rose John Finen age 14 I did not find a record of the marriage of Peter and Ann Kinn Feinen in 1864 or 1865. I searched 1863 but the records were hard to read, I may have missed it. This is by no way an exhaustive search. Now you know the church, I suggest you order the film. Their seems to be a number of entries for your family. Theresa __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Baptisms: (In Latin) Feb. 24, 1907 Charles Senn, 578 Sunnyside Ave.( the address was written above the line) parents: John Senn and Cecilia Muhlpointner, d.o.b. Jan. 29, 1907 sponsor: Charles F. Marshall priest: Chas. F. Marshall I searched 3 years before and 3 years after with no Senn marriage or other baptism listed. Theresa __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Fellow listers, I spent several hours looking at LDS microfilms of the books from St. Augustine,and St. Mary's/St. Michaels/St.Josephs. First of general interest, the following handwritten inscription was found in front of one St. Michaels book: "Original name was St Mary's Church of West Hoboken, Jersey City, New Jersey. Then St. Michael's Church combined with St. Joseph's Church in 1982." In front of the book entitled :"St. Michael Church, Union City Marriages 1865-1877" It was written: "For year 1861 see small book 'Baptisms and Marriages.' For previous Baptisms and Marriages consult records kept at Our Lady of Grace, Hoboken. Fr. Coririn (sp?) took records to Hoboken when he was transfered his residence to Hoboken." I will post the information I found according to surname on individual posts so they register as separate entries in case one does a future archival search of this mailing list. The surname is listed and then the results. Most of the twentieth century church records have an index of surnames and I note whether I found the surname listed or not. If I did not find anything and you are fairly sure your record is in one of those books e-mail me and I will try again, but give me at least the decade you believe I can find it. Finally, don't worry because I've ordered some more church films from Union City and I'll keep you up to date on when I have them and for how long. I'm still looking for my family. Have fun! Theresa Virginia, USA __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

I don't mind looking up your relatives in the G to A Books. There are approx. 30+ books from 1850 to 1893 at the County Library. Give me an approx. year that you think they arrived. Please - no more than 2 requests at a time. Evelyn

Greetings, I looked at those records, the daybooks, that the LDS library had on film when I was out in Salt Lake for a scientific meeting a few years ago. The records had a great deal of info. my grandfather Frank was one of 15 kids according to the 1900 census and in doing the family history I wanted to get the names of all the siblings who died young. The first two kids were acctually buried in the poor ground. A few years later when they had a bit of money they moved them to a grave with other kids who had died young and one of the grandparents. Found the names of one of the kids and that helped me confirm my great grandfathers name. Anyway, there is quite a bit of neat info! Interestingly, the folks at the LDS church seemed intimidated by the use of Latin in the records and post a warning at the beginning of the film. The names and transactions are all in English so post-VII Catholics like myself can read through the records <grin>. Ken At 07:55 AM 1/31/2001 -0800, P Dales wrote: >Maybe someone can help. Has anyone ordered the film >from the FHC listing the burial records of Holy Name. >Can you tell me what information is listed. Does it >list everyone on the film with names A thru Z or do >you have to order the film with cut offs A thru B and >C thru D etc etc? Are there films available for Holy >Cross in North Arlington? Any help in this matter will >be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. > >Paul Daly > >__________________________________________________ >Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 >a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > >==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > Visit the Hudson County N.J. GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/ > > Kenneth Harrington McKeever, Ph.D. FACSM Associate Professor of Equine Exercise Physiology Department of Animal Sciences, Cook College Rutgers - The State University of New Jersey 84 Lipman Drive New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8525 Office:(732)932-9390 FAX: (732)932-6996 http://aesop.rutgers.edu/~animalsci/faculty/mckeever-cv.html

Hi Charlene - Approx. what year did they come from Germany. I could look in the Germans to America book for you. That would tell the town & ship they came over on MihnBu@aol.com wrote: > Would someone look up Amandus KOEPPER, Jr. b February 05, 1862 Germany d > February 19, 1925 Union Hudson Co. New Jersey married Augusta "Mary" (Hesser) > LUTZ? > > Amandus is my paternal great grandfather and I am trying to determine where > in Germany he came from and any other information I can obtain. > > Kindest regards from southern CA. > Charlene McCarthy Phillips > email: mihnbu@aol.com > > According to census, T715 roll 64 New Jersey 1900 Census > Vol 32 ed 56 sheet 6 line 4 > Amondos born Feb 1862 age 32 (Deu), Augusta born 1862 age 32 (Deu), Willie > born July 1885 age 14 (Deu), Julia born August 1888 age 11 (Deu), Frederick > born Sept 1891age 9 (Deu), August born March 1893 age 7 (Deu), Emma born > March 1896 age 4 (Deu), Louis born March 1896 age 4 (Deu), daughter born May > 1897age 3 (Deu), Armonda born Nov 1899 age 1 (NJ), and Ana Sheid born January > 1887 age 13 of New Jersey. > > June 20, 1898 SS Pretoria ship manifest, Hamburg Germany to Port of New York > arrival July 03, 1898. Microfilm: T715, Roll 25, Pg. 40, Line 1-9 National > Archives and Records, 7th and Pennsylvania Ave. NW., Washington DC 20408 > > 1900 109 Jefferson St. Union Hill NJ > > 1904 Painter living at: 510 Main St. Union Hill NJ > > 1904 US Citizenship (need copy of citizenship papers) > > 1920 Census Union Hudson Co NJ > > DEATH CERT INFO: Armandus Koepper, Jr. residence: 183 Hudson Ave. Union, > widowed, wife: Augusta Hesser, date of birth: Feb 5, 1864, age: 61 yrs 14 > days, Occupation: Bartender, birthplace: Germany, Informant: Julius Koepper > 417 Rossouth Street, Union, date of death: Feb 19, 1925. burial: Feb 22, 1925 > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > If you are unsubscribed from the NJHUDSON list unintentionally, simply > resubscribe. A full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be > unsubscribed.

Not quite, A default data isn't entered. The correct date is entered and stored eg. May 1890. It is when this data is returned to lets say the web browser, that something like this will occur Display Date (Format "dd/mm/yyyy") and this is where, or possibly where, the source of error occurs. So they may actually have correct data (lets hope so). If they have taken their data from another source that had this error, then they may have copied the error also :-( It's something that can slip through far too easily. I definately think that a few emails should be written to them to point out that some dates being returned have errors. As you say, be wary if there is a 01/mm/yyyy date. Mark Usher The Real Houses of Usher http://www.usherfamily.net Researching NJ : USHER, WETTIG, BIRKS, SCHNEE, BEGINS, 1850-present > > I don't think that their reasoning was wrong -- as you say for > programming -- a default day is entered -- but then there should be an > explanation somewhere so that people do not assume that it is the correct > date in all cases. This way who is to know, if the 1st of the month is > correct or not? > > Claire > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Usher" <mark.usher@aon.at> > To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 2:30 PM > Subject: RE: [NJHUDSON-L] ArrangeOnline > > > From a programmers point of view I can see how this error has arisen. > Basically what has probably been entered is the month and the > year of death. > The day not being known. > When a search is performed the result is probably formatted as dd/mm/yyyy > and thus, as the day is missing it is filled out as 01. > > Not that I want to excuse them, they should be very careful about > presentation of data and check What if's ... when's ... etc etc., but I > thought that understanding the problem may help some of you. > > Mark Usher > The Real Houses of Usher > http://www.usherfamily.net > Researching NJ : USHER, WETTIG, BIRKS, SCHNEE, BEGINS, 1850-present > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Maureen Shelly [mailto:mcshelly2@msn.com] > > Sent: Dienstag, 30. Jänner 2001 06:06 > > To: NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] ArrangeOnline > > > > > > Just don't use it for dates ...... month and year may be fine, but if it > > says Dec. 1 or June 1 or Jan. 1 watch out! They're just copied from the > > Social Security Death Index, which also has a lot of mistakes. > But where > > SSDI didn't have the day (most of the time), The Funeral > Directors made it > > the first day of the month .... quite outrageous, if you ask me .... > > deliberately misleading us and spreading information they know to be > > absolutely false! And then each time something is transcribed > again, more > > mistakes inadvertently occur. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dee Leviner" <jleviner@InfoAve.Net> > > To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 7:11 AM > > Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] ArrangeOnline > > > > > > > I am new to Hudson County list. I have discovered arrangeOnline also. > > > It can be used to search for maiden names as well as surnames. A big > > > help on the female side. > > > > > > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > > > Your donations to RootsWeb makes NJHUDSON possible. > > > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > > Use NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com to write to the NJHUDSON list. > > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the NJHUDSON list, use > > NJHUDSON-L-request@rootsweb.com. > > > > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > Visit the Hudson County N.J. GenWeb page at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/ > > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > New people subscribe to and unsubscribe from the list each week. > You are encouraged to resubmit your queries two or three times > per year to reach new listmembers. > >

Hi Evelyn, Would you mind looking in your Germans to America book to see if my GG-Grandparents are in there? Albert and Marguerite CAMPEN, both born in Germany circa 1855. Arrived in America before 1884. All of the children I have listed for them were born in New Jersey from 1884-1895. It also appears that there were 3 children who died. I don't know when. Marguerite's maiden name was ULRICH. They lived in the Essex and Hudson County areas. Thanks, Nicci

Maybe someone can help. Has anyone ordered the film from the FHC listing the burial records of Holy Name. Can you tell me what information is listed. Does it list everyone on the film with names A thru Z or do you have to order the film with cut offs A thru B and C thru D etc etc? Are there films available for Holy Cross in North Arlington? Any help in this matter will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. Paul Daly __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

I don't think that their reasoning was wrong -- as you say for programming -- a default day is entered -- but then there should be an explanation somewhere so that people do not assume that it is the correct date in all cases. This way who is to know, if the 1st of the month is correct or not? Claire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Usher" <mark.usher@aon.at> To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 2:30 PM Subject: RE: [NJHUDSON-L] ArrangeOnline From a programmers point of view I can see how this error has arisen. Basically what has probably been entered is the month and the year of death. The day not being known. When a search is performed the result is probably formatted as dd/mm/yyyy and thus, as the day is missing it is filled out as 01. Not that I want to excuse them, they should be very careful about presentation of data and check What if's ... when's ... etc etc., but I thought that understanding the problem may help some of you. Mark Usher The Real Houses of Usher http://www.usherfamily.net Researching NJ : USHER, WETTIG, BIRKS, SCHNEE, BEGINS, 1850-present > -----Original Message----- > From: Maureen Shelly [mailto:mcshelly2@msn.com] > Sent: Dienstag, 30. Jänner 2001 06:06 > To: NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] ArrangeOnline > > > Just don't use it for dates ...... month and year may be fine, but if it > says Dec. 1 or June 1 or Jan. 1 watch out! They're just copied from the > Social Security Death Index, which also has a lot of mistakes. But where > SSDI didn't have the day (most of the time), The Funeral Directors made it > the first day of the month .... quite outrageous, if you ask me .... > deliberately misleading us and spreading information they know to be > absolutely false! And then each time something is transcribed again, more > mistakes inadvertently occur. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dee Leviner" <jleviner@InfoAve.Net> > To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 7:11 AM > Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] ArrangeOnline > > > > I am new to Hudson County list. I have discovered arrangeOnline also. > > It can be used to search for maiden names as well as surnames. A big > > help on the female side. > > > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > > Your donations to RootsWeb makes NJHUDSON possible. > > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > > > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > Use NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com to write to the NJHUDSON list. > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the NJHUDSON list, use > NJHUDSON-L-request@rootsweb.com. > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== Visit the Hudson County N.J. GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/

From a programmers point of view I can see how this error has arisen. Basically what has probably been entered is the month and the year of death. The day not being known. When a search is performed the result is probably formatted as dd/mm/yyyy and thus, as the day is missing it is filled out as 01. Not that I want to excuse them, they should be very careful about presentation of data and check What if's ... when's ... etc etc., but I thought that understanding the problem may help some of you. Mark Usher The Real Houses of Usher http://www.usherfamily.net Researching NJ : USHER, WETTIG, BIRKS, SCHNEE, BEGINS, 1850-present > -----Original Message----- > From: Maureen Shelly [mailto:mcshelly2@msn.com] > Sent: Dienstag, 30. Jänner 2001 06:06 > To: NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] ArrangeOnline > > > Just don't use it for dates ...... month and year may be fine, but if it > says Dec. 1 or June 1 or Jan. 1 watch out! They're just copied from the > Social Security Death Index, which also has a lot of mistakes. But where > SSDI didn't have the day (most of the time), The Funeral Directors made it > the first day of the month .... quite outrageous, if you ask me .... > deliberately misleading us and spreading information they know to be > absolutely false! And then each time something is transcribed again, more > mistakes inadvertently occur. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dee Leviner" <jleviner@InfoAve.Net> > To: <NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 7:11 AM > Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] ArrangeOnline > > > > I am new to Hudson County list. I have discovered arrangeOnline also. > > It can be used to search for maiden names as well as surnames. A big > > help on the female side. > > > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > > Your donations to RootsWeb makes NJHUDSON possible. > > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > > > > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > Use NJHUDSON-L@rootsweb.com to write to the NJHUDSON list. > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the NJHUDSON list, use > NJHUDSON-L-request@rootsweb.com. > >

Would someone look up Amandus KOEPPER, Jr. b February 05, 1862 Germany d February 19, 1925 Union Hudson Co. New Jersey married Augusta "Mary" (Hesser) LUTZ? Amandus is my paternal great grandfather and I am trying to determine where in Germany he came from and any other information I can obtain. Kindest regards from southern CA. Charlene McCarthy Phillips email: mihnbu@aol.com According to census, T715 roll 64 New Jersey 1900 Census Vol 32 ed 56 sheet 6 line 4 Amondos born Feb 1862 age 32 (Deu), Augusta born 1862 age 32 (Deu), Willie born July 1885 age 14 (Deu), Julia born August 1888 age 11 (Deu), Frederick born Sept 1891age 9 (Deu), August born March 1893 age 7 (Deu), Emma born March 1896 age 4 (Deu), Louis born March 1896 age 4 (Deu), daughter born May 1897age 3 (Deu), Armonda born Nov 1899 age 1 (NJ), and Ana Sheid born January 1887 age 13 of New Jersey. June 20, 1898 SS Pretoria ship manifest, Hamburg Germany to Port of New York arrival July 03, 1898. Microfilm: T715, Roll 25, Pg. 40, Line 1-9 National Archives and Records, 7th and Pennsylvania Ave. NW., Washington DC 20408 1900 109 Jefferson St. Union Hill NJ 1904 Painter living at: 510 Main St. Union Hill NJ 1904 US Citizenship (need copy of citizenship papers) 1920 Census Union Hudson Co NJ DEATH CERT INFO: Armandus Koepper, Jr. residence: 183 Hudson Ave. Union, widowed, wife: Augusta Hesser, date of birth: Feb 5, 1864, age: 61 yrs 14 days, Occupation: Bartender, birthplace: Germany, Informant: Julius Koepper 417 Rossouth Street, Union, date of death: Feb 19, 1925. burial: Feb 22, 1925