Dottie- Well, I poked around on the HeritageQuest census site and I couldn't find them either. There's a 1905 NJ State Census available, but it isn't indexed as far as I know. A better bet might be the City Directories. LDS has Film #1929186 (check this before you order - I've been known to transpose #s) that has the directories for 1902 through 1907. That might be your best bet. Kathi IBSSG New York - Thompson/Crane/Bramm/Fleischer Jew Jersey - Thompson/Early/Coyle/Hunter Wisconsin - Meissner/Steng/Diem/Zeininger -----Original Message----- From: Dotty Cole <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:11:36 -0400 Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] William Elmer Hubler b. Newburgh, Orange, NY to Jersey City While searching at ancestry.com for one of the sisters of my husband's grandfather (John Schneider born 5 Apr 1875 in Raritan, NJ), I found the following: 1900 United States Federal Census > New Jersey > Hudson > Jersey City Ward 4 > District 102 Enumerated 8 June 1900, First Precinct, Fourth Ward, York Street, #265 Snyder, John, head, white, male, Apr 1873, age 27, married one year, born New Jersey, father and mother born Germany, clothing salesman, can read, write, speak English, rents home Snyder, Dorothy, wife, white, female, June 1880, age 19, married one year, mother of one living child, born New Jersey, parents born Germany, can read, write, speak English Snyder, Dorothy, daughter, born February 1900, born NJ but I also found the following: 1900 United States Federal Census > New Jersey > Hudson > Jersey City Ward 1 > District 81 Hiebler, William, head, born June 1873 age 26 married 4 years born NY parents born NY boatsman Hiebler, Margaret, wife, born June 1877 age 23 married 4 years 2 children 1 living born NJ parents born Germany Hiebler, Earl J., son, born Dec 1897 age 2 born NJ father born NY mother born NJ Schneider, John, brother-in-law, born Apr 1875 age 25 married 1 year born NJ parents born Germany window dresser Because we knew John Schneider had recently married Dorothy Langrehr and had a small daughter named Dorothy, I knew the first one was our man. But the second one seemed to be our man, also. We wrote for the marriage record for William Hiebler and his wife Margaret. It turned out that Margaret was a daughter of my husbands great grandparents, Valentine Schneider and Catherine Schmidt. The marriage record indicated that the name was Hubler not Hiebler as it was transcribed at ancestry.com. William Hubler was from Newburgh, Orange, NY. I found William with his parents in the 1880 census in Newburgh: 1880 United States Census Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Adolph HUBLER Self M Male W 36 NY Works On Brickyard NY NY Mary Jane HUBLER Wife M Female W 38 NY Keeping House NY NY Laura HUBLER Dau S Female W 10 NY At School NY NY Willie E. HUBLER Son S Male W 7 NY NY NY Pierre HUBLER Son S Male W 5 NY NY NY Sarah A. BAXTER SDau S Female W 18 NY NY NY Grant BAXTER SSon S Male W 16 NY Works On Brickyard NY NY Source Information: Census Place E.D. 2, Newburgh, Orange, New York Family History Library Film 1254911 NA Film Number T9-0911 Page Number 510D However, I have been unable to find William and Margaret and their son Earl J. in any later census or other databases that ancestry.com holds; i.e., WW I Draft Registration Cards, SSDI, etc. I can only presume that they all died before 1910 or he died and she remarried. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Dotty Sprague Cole Lake Mary, FL ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== Use [email protected] to write to the NJHUDSON list. If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the NJHUDSON list, use [email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.

While searching at ancestry.com for one of the sisters of my husband's grandfather (John Schneider born 5 Apr 1875 in Raritan, NJ), I found the following: 1900 United States Federal Census > New Jersey > Hudson > Jersey City Ward 4 > District 102 Enumerated 8 June 1900, First Precinct, Fourth Ward, York Street, #265 Snyder, John, head, white, male, Apr 1873, age 27, married one year, born New Jersey, father and mother born Germany, clothing salesman, can read, write, speak English, rents home Snyder, Dorothy, wife, white, female, June 1880, age 19, married one year, mother of one living child, born New Jersey, parents born Germany, can read, write, speak English Snyder, Dorothy, daughter, born February 1900, born NJ but I also found the following: 1900 United States Federal Census > New Jersey > Hudson > Jersey City Ward 1 > District 81 Hiebler, William, head, born June 1873 age 26 married 4 years born NY parents born NY boatsman Hiebler, Margaret, wife, born June 1877 age 23 married 4 years 2 children 1 living born NJ parents born Germany Hiebler, Earl J., son, born Dec 1897 age 2 born NJ father born NY mother born NJ Schneider, John, brother-in-law, born Apr 1875 age 25 married 1 year born NJ parents born Germany window dresser Because we knew John Schneider had recently married Dorothy Langrehr and had a small daughter named Dorothy, I knew the first one was our man. But the second one seemed to be our man, also. We wrote for the marriage record for William Hiebler and his wife Margaret. It turned out that Margaret was a daughter of my husbands great grandparents, Valentine Schneider and Catherine Schmidt. The marriage record indicated that the name was Hubler not Hiebler as it was transcribed at ancestry.com. William Hubler was from Newburgh, Orange, NY. I found William with his parents in the 1880 census in Newburgh: 1880 United States Census Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Adolph HUBLER Self M Male W 36 NY Works On Brickyard NY NY Mary Jane HUBLER Wife M Female W 38 NY Keeping House NY NY Laura HUBLER Dau S Female W 10 NY At School NY NY Willie E. HUBLER Son S Male W 7 NY NY NY Pierre HUBLER Son S Male W 5 NY NY NY Sarah A. BAXTER SDau S Female W 18 NY NY NY Grant BAXTER SSon S Male W 16 NY Works On Brickyard NY NY Source Information: Census Place E.D. 2, Newburgh, Orange, New York Family History Library Film 1254911 NA Film Number T9-0911 Page Number 510D However, I have been unable to find William and Margaret and their son Earl J. in any later census or other databases that ancestry.com holds; i.e., WW I Draft Registration Cards, SSDI, etc. I can only presume that they all died before 1910 or he died and she remarried. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Dotty Sprague Cole Lake Mary, FL

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Hello All, I have scanned and uploaded more pages of the book "Jersey City" to my web site at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006

Anyone researching HAPPEL or DAVIS???? Davis (mid to late 1880 - early 1900's) Alonzo Davis (married Lillie or Lillian ?) Edith Davis (married Elmer Gear or Geer ?) Lawrence Davis (married Mary Ann Bird Guttanger) Louis Davis Marion C. Davis (married Henry Happel) Mary Davis Paul Davis

Looking for information on a Andrew MICHNIAK born in Jersey City, NJ, <1887>. Father: Daniel Mother: Anna Hoffman Married: Margaret Primrose of NYC Children: Alice, b. <1914>, NYC Beatrice b. <1915>, NYC Any information would be helpful. Thank you. A. Ward

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Hi again, On Tuesday, 23 May we went to the registry of health in Ennis to get vital records. I suggest not going on a Monday. We went on Tuesday just by accident and Theresa, the clerk, said they had been swamped the previous day. Theresa really went the extra mile on a 12 year search for the death entries on my MULVIHILL great grandparents. (They were elderly during the 1901 Census, so we didn't think they'd be too hard to find. But he lived to be in his 90s and she lived to be 85!) Had there been other people waiting for service, I doubt she would have been able to accommodate us, even if she had been willing to do so. I went there hoping for 5 items, and left with all 5. Incredible! Take care, Kate Fitzpatrick Norwich CT USA

Hi all, My sister Susan and I had a wonderful, perfect trip to Ireland. The genealogical portion of the trip focused on County Clare and my father's family lines. I'll keep my report limited to genealogy. If anyone wants referrals on places to stay, eat or visit, feel free to contact me off list. It rained every day we were there, but it didn't hamper our spirits or our activities. Both angels and ancestors were on our side; our timing was great every place we went. We arrived at Shannon the morning of Tuesday, 16 May and made our way to Ballyvaughan in the Burren area of northern Clare. As soon as we arrived at our B&B, I called ahead to the Local Studies Center in Ennis and made an appointment for 2 microfilm readers needed the following Monday. I was advised to do this because the room is small and the materials there are in great demand. I called directory assistance to get the phone numbers of 6 churches of interest. I hadn't been able to find the numbers online before the trip. The operator could only find one number. She told me in the small towns, the church is sometimes listed under the parish priest's name! However, it turned out not to be a problem. I then called a number I found in an Irish internet phone book for a man I believed to be a BURNELL cousin -- right name, right town. -- Coolbane Tubber on the Clare/Galway line. I had written to Michael (who pronounces his name the Irish way -- Meehawl) a month earlier. His son Kyran said they had discussed the letter just that morning, and were expecting my call. Michael's wife Peggy called me back later that day and we arranged to meet them at their home the next day. The next day we met the BURNELLs -- hugs and kisses all around. They had printed out Michael's father's family from the 1901 Census in the Clare County Library database to show me which family group was theirs. I got lots of information about the BURNELLs, and gave them information about our immigrant ancestors who made a life for themselves in Bayonne, New Jersey USA. I gave them a copy of a restored photo taken at the turn of the 20th century of John and Mary (MULVIHILL) BURNELL and their children, as well as their marriage license, death certificates, obituaries, a news article on the occasion of their 50th wedding anniversary, and a family group record of what I had so far on everyone in the photo. After tea and several hours of talking, Michael and Peggy were quite prepared to take us out in some miserable weather to the family burial plot. We didn't want to impose given the weather, but "Tis just a mist," Michael assured us. We never would have found it had they not showed us the graveyard, and yes it was in the middle of a cow pasture. Then they wanted to show us a nearby holy well, at which point we got stuck in the mud in yet another cow pasture. The real soupy kind. We had to push the car out twice. Michael looked down at my brown shoes which had been white only a few moments earlier, and said, "See? Now ye've got a bit o' Tubber mud to take home with ye!" They also showed us the local church, and told us where other branches of the family are buried. Kyran was milking the cows when we returned to the house, but joined us later. We had another small meal with them and left in the late evening. It doesn't get dark there til 10 pm, which was a real help finding our way back on those country roads. On Thursday I phoned the priest in Lisdoonvarna. I reminded him of my cousin's visit 2 years earlier and that he had graciously allowed her to transcribe some records; would it be convenient and agreeable to him for me to visit during our stay and pick up where she left off? Could I come right over, he replied. He was just about to say Mass, but we were only 20 minutes away so we would arrive just about the time the Mass was ending. Needless to say, we jumped right in the car. That day we also drove the shore road and visited a number of towns with family importance -- the former FITZPATRICK farm which now holds the Ballyvara House B&B in Doolin; Murrough, Fanore, Roadford. We saw a roadside cemetery so we stopped and took pictures. The wind and wet weather made transcriptions on paper unworkable. On Friday, I called the Lisdoonvarna pastor again to get the number for St. Patrick's in Murrough. I learned that the records for Murrough and Fanore were actually held in Ballyvaughan, the town where we were staying. I called the priest in Ballyvaughan, acknowledging that the weekend was upon us and I knew he'd be busy with Masses, but if at all possible during our stay, at his convenience...He said we could meet with him at 10 the following morning. Sue wanted to explore Kinvara to the north, and while we were driving in that direction, why not check out Galway? We had some free time since we had planned a boat trip to the Aran Islands that was repeatedly canceled due to rough weather. While we were in Galway, we checked out the Galway County Library to see if I could find an obituary. Didn't find the obit, but I will need to visit again in the future for other things and was glad to find out where it was. The building is easy to find, but the library entrance is well hidden! They have very little space and equipment, so an appointment is recommended. Our visit was unplanned but we just hit it lucky. Sunday we left Ballyvaughan and headed to Ennis. We stayed at the Newpark House B&B, which is also the home of IRL-CLARE Rootsweb Lister and professional genealogist Declan Barron. What an awesome manor house. It is like walking into the past; a great setting for historical research. Declan has a Master's degree in local history and quite a personal library which he generously shares with his guests. The big FITZPATRICK lead of the trip came courtesy of Declan. He asked if I was familiar with the Freeholder's Lists recently put on the Clare County Library website. I said I was, and had brought along the relevant names I had found. He then told me the list on the site was only about 1% of the whole list. Declan is the only one who has the whole list, acquired by searching every newspaper of that period and photocopying each list off the microfilm at personal expense over heaven-knows how many months. The librarians apparently told him that he is the only person ever to have done this. (Bless you, Declan!) The stack of papers was roughly 8 cm high. I only made it through a third of the pile, but found a connection between the land in Doolin and a FITZPATRICK in Dublin previously unknown to us. Declan told me the Dublin County Library had every Dublin city directory, and would probably do a directory lookup free of charge. I send an email query and he was right. Declan said he can do a single name search through the entire stack of lists in about an hour, which is better than I can do. So I'll send him some money when I'm ready to search my other lines. No, Declan hasn't paid me to say any of this. <SMILE> He's doing good work and I think you should know. On Monday, we went to the Local Studies Center. Peter Beirne was very gracious and helpful. Sue and I searched the Clare Champion for relevant news items for much of the day. On Tuesday I asked Declan if he could recommend a good published history of Clare. He recommended A History of County Clare by Sean Spellissy, a local historian and bookseller. (ISBN 0-7171-3460-1) We visited Sean's store, "The Book Gallery". It's in Cronin's Yard, Upper Market Street, Ennis. (But he may be moving his store to Gort in the fall.) Sean was very helpful. I also bought County Clare: A History and Topography by Samuel Lewis, a Clasp Press book discussed on the Clare List. (ISBN 1 900545 00 4) Once we left Ennis on Wednesday 24 May, the genealogical portion of our trip was over. Though en route to the Killimer Tarbert ferry, we noticed how close we'd come to the town of Doonaha, the town in which the MULVIHILLs lived. So we made the short detour and took some photos. I photographed and transcribed everything having my surnames of interest. It will take me months to sort through it. I'll share the data with the appropriate Lists as I go. That's it for now! Kate Fitzpatrick Norwich CT USA

Kislak family to donate $2M to Monmouth University Monmouth University will accept a $2 million donation from a prominent real estate family in a campus ceremony later today. The West Long Branch university is scheduled to rename its real estate institute after the Kislaks, a family that has been in the real estate business since Julius Kislak began selling houses in Hoboken in 1906. The Kislak donation, the second largest in Monmouth University's history, will help the school start New Jersey's first undergraduate major in real estate. "In celebrating 100 years in the real estate business, the Kislak family wanted to make a substantial, meaningful donation to our industry," said Jay Kislak, chairman of the board of J.I. Kislak, Inc., parent company of the New Jersey-based Kislak Company. ¶ Monmouth University joins a growing list of colleges and universities offering four-year degrees in real estate. Nationwide, the number of programs has doubled to nearly 65 over the last decade. The real estate major will begin the fall of 2007. Students will take courses in finance, valuation, eminent domain, affordable housing, law and construction, campus officials said. Click here to read more from today's Star-Ledger. Contributed by Kelly Heyboer Posted at 6:03 a.m. http://www.nj.com/newslogs/starledger/index.ssf?/mtlogs/njo_ledgerupdate/archives/2006_06.html#146630 www.njo.com Star Legder posted June 01, 2006

Hi Folks Thought you might all like to know about these two upcoming events in NJ. Both sound like they could be of value for NJ (and nearby) genealogists working with NJ families! I'm pretty sure that the June 8 event includes a lunch and that the June 10 event includes snacks of some sort - but you can check to be sure! Joan M. Lowry Genealogical Society of New Jersey mailto:[email protected] website: www.gsnj.org -------------- Discover a Whole New World: Researching in Religious Archives Instructors: L. Dale Patterson, Archivist, United Methodist Church Archives Margery N. Sly, Deputy Director, Presbyterian Historical Society Dr. Jennifer Woodruff Tait, Methodist Librarian, Drew University Thursday, June 8 9:00 a.m. – 3:00 p.m. Drew University, 36 Madison Avenue, Madison, NJ Directions/parking: http://www.drew.edu/about/directions.php The topics to be presented in this workshop are genealogy, social issues in religious archives, unexpected material, and ecumenical material (material not just related to a specific denomination or religion). -------------------- County Archives: Reference Services Instructor: Gary Saretzky, Archivist, Monmouth County Archives Saturday, June 10 (Limited to 25 participants) 9:00 a.m. – 12:00 noon Gloucester County Historical Society, 17 Hunter Street, Woodbury , NJ Directions/parking: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgchs/directions.html County records include, among others, census records, deeds, naturalizations, marriages, civil and criminal court records, surveyors’ records, maps, and various licensing records such as professionals and business name registrations. This workshop will discuss the types of reference services provided to researchers and the ways in which archives are organized and indexed to promote effective and secure use. --------------------- More information on registering for the workshops can be found on the NJ State Historical Records Advisory Board (SHRAB) website: http://www.state.nj.us/state/darm/links/shrabworkshops.html IF YOU WANT TO REGISTER FOR A WORKSHOP OR IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE CALL TEL: 609-633-8334 Barbara Pepe, SHRAB Administrative Assistant New Jersey State Archives 225 West State Street PO Box 307 Trenton, NJ 08625-0307 mailto:[email protected]

Hey, again, Shawntez, I think I found your Gladys Seay, only it's spelled See, in West New York, Hudson Co., NJ, in 1900. I have head of household George See, born Jan. 1867, married 8 years, born in Virginia as were both parents, he's a RR porter. Wife Agnes, born Jan. 1870, born in Virginia as were both parents, daughter Beatrice, born May 1893 in NY, and daughter Gladys, born Feb. 1900 in NY. If this sounds like who you're looking for, I can go further back. Regards, Jeanne Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 15:16:36 -0700 (PDT) From: s lyman <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: SEAY and RAY surnames in Jersey City New to list, so Hello! I am researching two african-american families of Jersey City. The RAY family headed by Bruce RAY born in Richmond, Virginia December 1894 and his wife, Gladys A. SEAY born in New York. Wondering if anyone has researched Gladys' family. Her brother Dick was a well known black baseball player. I would like to locate burial sites of both families. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Shawntez Lyman - ------------------------------- Be a chatter box. Enjoy free PC-to-PC calls with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. --------------------------------- Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Yahoo! Messenger with Voice

Hi, Shawntez, I'd like to help. I'm no relation, but can you give us some more information? At what point does either one or the other of these two people appear in Hudson Co.? Do you have an approximate date of birth for Gladys? I presume that you have all you need on Bruce and his family? Regards, Jeanne Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 15:16:36 -0700 (PDT) From: s lyman <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: SEAY and RAY surnames in Jersey City New to list, so Hello! I am researching two african-american families of Jersey City. The RAY family headed by Bruce RAY born in Richmond, Virginia December 1894 and his wife, Gladys A. SEAY born in New York. Wondering if anyone has researched Gladys' family. Her brother Dick was a well known black baseball player. I would like to locate burial sites of both families. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Shawntez Lyman - ------------------------------- Be a chatter box. Enjoy free PC-to-PC calls with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

New to list, so Hello! I am researching two african-american families of Jersey City. The RAY family headed by Bruce RAY born in Richmond, Virginia December 1894 and his wife, Gladys A. SEAY born in New York. Wondering if anyone has researched Gladys' family. Her brother Dick was a well known black baseball player. I would like to locate burial sites of both families. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Shawntez Lyman --------------------------------- Be a chatter box. Enjoy free PC-to-PC calls with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.

The Genealogical Society of New Jersey and the New Jersey State Archives have canceled their joint program planned for this Saturday, June 3rd, in Trenton, due to numerous logistical complications. We hope to reschedule the all-day event on military research sometime in the fall. Registration payments will be returned or credited to those who have registered for the program. With our sincere apologies and regrets, Joan M. Lowry, President Genealogical Society of New Jersey mailto:[email protected] website: www.gsnj.org

Hi, I found a Happel family that includes a Henry, 7, in the 1880 for Manhattan. Parents are Heinrich and Rosa, and the reason this one jumped out at me is that little Henry's birthplace is listed as Jersey Heights... Look for that one and see if it fits in with your lines... ...I'm a little confused about the data you included in your query, and I mean the format. Probably just me. :-) One suggestion. What about directories going backward from 1900 to track when they came into Jersey City? I looked in the 1889-93 directory database on Ancestry.com. There is a Henry Happel, watchman, working at 345 4th and living at 137 Brunswick in 1892. Also a Henry Happ at 315 1st in 1891. Regards, Jeanne Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 20:55:54 -0400 From: "" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: HAPPEL - Need Suggestions I've come to a road block on my father's side of the family and I'm hoping someone can give me some suggestions as to where I should look next. Unfortunately, his side of the family didn't talk much so I wasn't able to get much from them when they were alive. The following is all I have on them: Henry Happel #1 married Elizabeth ? According to the 1900 Federal Census they were both born in Germany. They had at least three children all most likely born in New York : 1. William Happel 2. Eda Happel married ? Geer or Gear 3. Henry Happel #2 DOB: 12.04.1874 POB: NY, NY DOD: 03.19.1916 POD: West Hoboken, Hudson, New Jersey Married DOM: 1894 ? POM: New York City Hall ? Marion C. Davis DOB: 07.11.1881 POB: Philadelphia, PA or New York, New York DOD: 09.21.1932 POD: Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey Children George Henry HappelDOB: 07.04.1897 POB: Brooklyn, Kings, New York DOD: 10.20.1980 POB: North Bergen, Hudson, New Jersey Elsie Happel Reo DOB: Bet 1900-1901 POB: Brooklyn, Kings, New York DOD: Bet 1930-1931 Alonzo Happel DOB: 03.30.1904 POB: Brooklyn, Kings, New York DOD: 12.1966 POD: Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey William Arthur HappelDOB: 11.06.1907 POB: Brooklyn, Kings, New York DOD: 1967 Renold Happel DOB: 07.25.1908 POB: Brooklyn, Kings, New York DOD: 08.25.1976 POD: Lakewood, Ocean, New Jersey Walter Happel DOB: 08.23.1911 POB: Brooklyn, Kings, New York DOD: 06.05.1984 POD: Fontana, San Bernardino, California I found Henry Happel #2, Marion Happel, George Happel, and Mary Davis (Marion's mother) on the 1900 US Federal Census. When I go back to the 1880 census I find no trace of anyone that I can be sure is a relative. I should be finding at least Henry Happel #2 and probably should be finding Henry Happel #1 and his wife Elizabeth ?. I've searched everything I could on Ancestry.com, but no luck. Years ago I went to a LDS Research Library, but no luck there either. Any suggestions on where I should go from here? --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

I've come to a road block on my father's side of the family and I'm hoping someone can give me some suggestions as to where I should look next. Unfortunately, his side of the family didn't talk much so I wasn't able to get much from them when they were alive. The following is all I have on them: Henry Happel #1 married Elizabeth ? According to the 1900 Federal Census they were both born in Germany. They had at least three children all most likely born in New York : 1. William Happel 2. Eda Happel married ? Geer or Gear 3. Henry Happel #2 DOB: 12.04.1874 POB: NY, NY DOD: 03.19.1916 POD: West Hoboken, Hudson, New Jersey Married DOM: 1894 ? POM: New York City Hall ? Marion C. Davis DOB: 07.11.1881 POB: Philadelphia, PA or New York, New York DOD: 09.21.1932 POD: Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey Children George Henry HappelDOB: 07.04.1897 POB: Brooklyn, Kings, New York DOD: 10.20.1980 POB: North Bergen, Hudson, New Jersey Elsie Happel Reo DOB: Bet 1900-1901 POB: Brooklyn, Kings, New York DOD: Bet 1930-1931 Alonzo Happel DOB: 03.30.1904 POB: Brooklyn, Kings, New York DOD: 12.1966 POD: Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey William Arthur HappelDOB: 11.06.1907 POB: Brooklyn, Kings, New York DOD: 1967 Renold Happel DOB: 07.25.1908 POB: Brooklyn, Kings, New York DOD: 08.25.1976 POD: Lakewood, Ocean, New Jersey Walter Happel DOB: 08.23.1911 POB: Brooklyn, Kings, New York DOD: 06.05.1984 POD: Fontana, San Bernardino, California I found Henry Happel #2, Marion Happel, George Happel, and Mary Davis (Marion's mother) on the 1900 US Federal Census. When I go back to the 1880 census I find no trace of anyone that I can be sure is a relative. I should be finding at least Henry Happel #2 and probably should be finding Henry Happel #1 and his wife Elizabeth ?. I've searched everything I could on Ancestry.com, but no luck. Years ago I went to a LDS Research Library, but no luck there either. Any suggestions on where I should go from here?

I have found seven children of the Driscoll family in Jersey City and six of their marriage records but have had no luck with James.Of course he may never married or married elsewhere or even died. I did find a Jeramiah Driscoll married to an Alice in 1885. If someone would see if they could find this Jeramiah on the 1900 it may just be him. Thanks for any assistance. Dolores