Hello All, I have scanned and uploaded the final pages of the book "Jersey City". You can view the entire book at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006

If you know who you're looking for in the 1920 census has an index in soundex. Much of the info from the census page is there. You need to do it the old fashion and go to the films. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Tallygators [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 8:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] 1920 Census Can anyone help me with the last 5 names on the bottom of Page 1B, Ward 3, District 19, Bayonne, Hudson County? Looks like some tape had been applied over the names - but some of the other information is legible. Floreda ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== If you are unsubscribed from the NJHUDSON list unintentionally, simply resubscribe. A full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be unsubscribed.

I can't make it out. Go to page 3 and there is a child age 1 1/2 named Reginald Male? Sorry. I can't be of more help. Ann In a message dated 7/3/2006 8:41:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Can anyone help me with the last 5 names on the bottom of Page 1B, Ward 3, District 19, Bayonne, Hudson County? Looks like some tape had been applied over the names - but some of the other information is legible. Floreda ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== If you are unsubscribed from the NJHUDSON list unintentionally, simply resubscribe. A full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be unsubscribed. AVFinkel Farmingdale, NJ

Can anyone help me with the last 5 names on the bottom of Page 1B, Ward 3, District 19, Bayonne, Hudson County? Looks like some tape had been applied over the names - but some of the other information is legible. Floreda

In a message dated 7/1/2006 4:00:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Why not try a search of the Castle Garden web site, www.Castlegarden.com. Just a note to let all know, if you go to the above site you will end up at a site for a Bed and Breakfast in Florida, for genealogy research you want to go to : www.castlegarden.org

My apologies to everyone. The link is www.castlegarden.org Betty Pruzinsky donald lutz <[email protected]> wrote: >That web site is for a bed and beakfast. Is there a web site for >the ship and or passengers at Castle Garden? > >On Jun 30, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Betty Pruzinsky wrote: > >> That's not pre-Castle Garden. My great-grandfather emigrated in >> 1864 and I found him on the Castle Garden records. Why not try a >> search of the Castle Garden web site, www.Castlegarden.com. If one >> spelling doesn't work, try another. Also, I don't think that their >> web site is complete as yet. It's still under construction. >> >> Good luck, >> Betty Pruzinsky >> >> RESEARCHING: CAMPBELL,CHRISTIE,LEISCH,LYONS,MEHAFFEY,SIKKELEE,WALTON >> >> Gloria Bauer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gloria M. Bauer >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:13:18 -0700 (PDT) >>> From: Gloria Bauer <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [NYC] Pre Castle Garden Arrival, Rudtner in NY, >>> Stadelhofer in NJ >>> Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:13:41 -0600 >>> Resent-From: [email protected] >>> >>> I have two ancestors that arrived in the U.S.before Castle Garden. >>> How do I >>> find the ship they took to come to the U.S. >>> >>> What I know: >>> Joseph Anton Rudtner born 19 Mar 1865 and >>> Maria Katharina Rudtner born 8 Sept 1870 both came to the U.S. >>> but I do not >>> know for sure that they came together. >>> >>> Joseph Anton Rudtner >>> Married Helene Stoll 28 Apr 1889 at St Nickolas Church in NYC >>> He applied to become a citizen 7 May 1889 and became a citizen 14 >>> Sept 1893. >>> The 1920 Census shows his year of immigration as 1887. On a passport >>> application in 1922 he says he emigrated sailing from Rotterdam >>> about Sept >>> 1888. >>> >>> Maria Katharina Rudtner, in 1911 lived on 121 Clinton Street in >>> West Hoboken >>> NJ, and she is married to Richard Stadelhofer. She died and was >>> buried in Holy >>> Name Cemetery on 14 Nov 1921. >>> >>> Any help will be appreciated. >>> >>> TIA, >>> Gloria M. Bauer >>> >>> >>> ==== NYC-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >>> List tools for you to use (sub unsub, archives, admin addy) - >>> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/misc.html >>> >>> ============================== >>> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >>> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== >>> If you are unsubscribed from the NJHUDSON list unintentionally, >>> simply >>> resubscribe. A full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause >>> you to be >>> unsubscribed. >>> >>> >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> Switch to Netscape Internet Service. >> As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/ >> register >> >> Netscape. Just the Net You Need. >> >> New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer >> Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. >> Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp >> >> >> ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== >> Your donations to RootsWeb makes NJHUDSON possible. >> RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 >> http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >> > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

It's www.castlegarden.org Judy Christopher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Pruzinsky" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: RE: [NJHUDSON-L] [NYC] Pre Castle Garden Arrival, Rudtner in NY, Stadelhofer in NJ (fwd) > That's not pre-Castle Garden. My great-grandfather emigrated in 1864 and > I found him on the Castle Garden records. Why not try a search of the > Castle Garden web site, www.Castlegarden.com. If one spelling doesn't > work, try another. Also, I don't think that their web site is complete as > yet. It's still under construction. > > Good luck, > Betty Pruzinsky > > RESEARCHING: CAMPBELL,CHRISTIE,LEISCH,LYONS,MEHAFFEY,SIKKELEE,WALTON > > Gloria Bauer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >>Regards, >>Gloria M. Bauer >> >>---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:13:18 -0700 (PDT) >>From: Gloria Bauer <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [NYC] Pre Castle Garden Arrival, Rudtner in NY, Stadelhofer in NJ >>Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:13:41 -0600 >>Resent-From: [email protected] >> >>I have two ancestors that arrived in the U.S.before Castle Garden. How do >>I >>find the ship they took to come to the U.S. >> >>What I know: >>Joseph Anton Rudtner born 19 Mar 1865 and >>Maria Katharina Rudtner born 8 Sept 1870 both came to the U.S. but I do >>not >>know for sure that they came together. >> >>Joseph Anton Rudtner >>Married Helene Stoll 28 Apr 1889 at St Nickolas Church in NYC >>He applied to become a citizen 7 May 1889 and became a citizen 14 Sept >>1893. >>The 1920 Census shows his year of immigration as 1887. On a passport >>application in 1922 he says he emigrated sailing from Rotterdam about Sept >>1888. >> >>Maria Katharina Rudtner, in 1911 lived on 121 Clinton Street in West >>Hoboken >>NJ, and she is married to Richard Stadelhofer. She died and was buried in >>Holy >>Name Cemetery on 14 Nov 1921. >> >>Any help will be appreciated. >> >>TIA, >>Gloria M. Bauer >> >> >>==== NYC-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >>List tools for you to use (sub unsub, archives, admin addy) - >>http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/misc.html >> >>============================== >>Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >>ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> >>==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== >> If you are unsubscribed from the NJHUDSON list unintentionally, simply >> resubscribe. A full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to >> be >> unsubscribed. >> >> > > __________________________________________________________________ > Switch to Netscape Internet Service. > As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at > http://isp.netscape.com/register > > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer > Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. > Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb makes NJHUDSON possible. > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

Hello All, I have scanned and uploaded more pages of the history book "Jersey City". It is almost complete now. You can view it at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/2006

Has anyone used the Steve Morse web site? http://stevemorse.org/. it has convenient links to all the databases with his more flexible search form. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Betty Pruzinsky [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NJHUDSON-L] [NYC] Pre Castle Garden Arrival, Rudtner in NY, Stadelhofer in NJ (fwd) That's not pre-Castle Garden. My great-grandfather emigrated in 1864 and I found him on the Castle Garden records. Why not try a search of the Castle Garden web site, www.Castlegarden.com. If one spelling doesn't work, try another. Also, I don't think that their web site is complete as yet. It's still under construction. Good luck, Betty Pruzinsky RESEARCHING: CAMPBELL,CHRISTIE,LEISCH,LYONS,MEHAFFEY,SIKKELEE,WALTON Gloria Bauer <[email protected]> wrote: > > >Regards, >Gloria M. Bauer > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:13:18 -0700 (PDT) >From: Gloria Bauer <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [NYC] Pre Castle Garden Arrival, Rudtner in NY, Stadelhofer in NJ >Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:13:41 -0600 >Resent-From: [email protected] > >I have two ancestors that arrived in the U.S.before Castle Garden. How do I >find the ship they took to come to the U.S. > >What I know: >Joseph Anton Rudtner born 19 Mar 1865 and >Maria Katharina Rudtner born 8 Sept 1870 both came to the U.S. but I do not >know for sure that they came together. > >Joseph Anton Rudtner >Married Helene Stoll 28 Apr 1889 at St Nickolas Church in NYC >He applied to become a citizen 7 May 1889 and became a citizen 14 Sept 1893. >The 1920 Census shows his year of immigration as 1887. On a passport >application in 1922 he says he emigrated sailing from Rotterdam about Sept >1888. > >Maria Katharina Rudtner, in 1911 lived on 121 Clinton Street in West Hoboken >NJ, and she is married to Richard Stadelhofer. She died and was buried in Holy >Name Cemetery on 14 Nov 1921. > >Any help will be appreciated. > >TIA, >Gloria M. Bauer > > >==== NYC-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >List tools for you to use (sub unsub, archives, admin addy) - >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/misc.html > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > >==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > If you are unsubscribed from the NJHUDSON list unintentionally, simply > resubscribe. A full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be > unsubscribed. > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== Your donations to RootsWeb makes NJHUDSON possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

That's not pre-Castle Garden. My great-grandfather emigrated in 1864 and I found him on the Castle Garden records. Why not try a search of the Castle Garden web site, www.Castlegarden.com. If one spelling doesn't work, try another. Also, I don't think that their web site is complete as yet. It's still under construction. Good luck, Betty Pruzinsky RESEARCHING: CAMPBELL,CHRISTIE,LEISCH,LYONS,MEHAFFEY,SIKKELEE,WALTON Gloria Bauer <[email protected]> wrote: > > >Regards, >Gloria M. Bauer > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:13:18 -0700 (PDT) >From: Gloria Bauer <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [NYC] Pre Castle Garden Arrival, Rudtner in NY, Stadelhofer in NJ >Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:13:41 -0600 >Resent-From: [email protected] > >I have two ancestors that arrived in the U.S.before Castle Garden. How do I >find the ship they took to come to the U.S. > >What I know: >Joseph Anton Rudtner born 19 Mar 1865 and >Maria Katharina Rudtner born 8 Sept 1870 both came to the U.S. but I do not >know for sure that they came together. > >Joseph Anton Rudtner >Married Helene Stoll 28 Apr 1889 at St Nickolas Church in NYC >He applied to become a citizen 7 May 1889 and became a citizen 14 Sept 1893. >The 1920 Census shows his year of immigration as 1887. On a passport >application in 1922 he says he emigrated sailing from Rotterdam about Sept >1888. > >Maria Katharina Rudtner, in 1911 lived on 121 Clinton Street in West Hoboken >NJ, and she is married to Richard Stadelhofer. She died and was buried in Holy >Name Cemetery on 14 Nov 1921. > >Any help will be appreciated. > >TIA, >Gloria M. Bauer > > >==== NYC-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >List tools for you to use (sub unsub, archives, admin addy) - >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/misc.html > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > >==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > If you are unsubscribed from the NJHUDSON list unintentionally, simply > resubscribe. A full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be > unsubscribed. > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

Lauren: I went through the license renewal in May, and never had a photo id in my life - and no passport either. If you have a JC birth certificate with a raised seal, take it and the other documents totalling the number of points the DMV wants to the DMV office. They will go through a verification process for your birth certificate that will require you to return on another day to complete the process once your birth certficate is verified. Basically, they take a copy of your certificate, fax it to someone, give you back your original and your other documents and call you at whatever number you give them to let you know to come back to the DMV once you've been verified. When you return, you go right to the next part of the process with the paperwork they have given you, get your photo license and you are done. It was relatively painless. (its a bit insulting to have been a NJ driver for forty years in my case and have to prove myself, all over again - like any of this would stop determined criminals - but it is not anywhere near as bad as I thought it was. ) At least you had a passport. I had to pick my husband up at Newark, and all I had with my picture on it was a Costco card. They didn't want to accept it, but finally gave in when I showed them every piece of paper in my wallet, including my voter registration card. How sad for all of us that we have to go through this like we are all under suspicion, rather than the other way around. Good luck, Evelyn "Complain not that the rose has thorns, but rather rejoice that the thornbush has a rose" -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 06:00:16 -0600 Subject: NJHUDSON-D Digest V06 #91 Content-Type: text/plain NJHUDSON-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 91 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) [[email protected]] #2 RE: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) [Ray Cappock <[email protected]] #3 [NYC] Pre Castle Garden Arrival, R [Gloria Bauer <[email protected]>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from NJHUDSON-D, send a message to [email protected] that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ X-Message: #1 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:31:10 -0400 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Message-Id: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This is so aggravating! I, as probably many other list members, was born at Margaret Hague Maternity Hospital (which closed in 1979). My mother received a copy of my birth certificate several weeks after I was born, but, because of the "suspected" sale of fradulent documents by county workers in Jersey City, my birth certificate is no longer valid!!! I'm one of those increasingly disappearing people who never got a photo license, because I wasn't required to. I use my passport when I have to produce photo ID. Next renewal, however, I'm required to add the photo to my license, which means I need to prove who I am and the old license doesn't count! So I need to produce a valid license (not the one I've used for 50+ years!) and other forms of ID. Maybe this would be a good time to assume a new identity! ;0) BTW - I understand the old Maternity Hospital building is being renovated into condos and rental apartments. Lauren Maehrlein Maehrlein's Heirlines Plant a tree, then start your family tree! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:52:46 EDT Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) Hi, This is what I was told by Weehawken's Board of Health and by Jersey City. Weehawken sent me to Jersey City after I gave them the information was looking for. For example, an 1959 Death Certificate from North Hudson Hospital. As for Jersey City, I had a dispute with the person over the phone about this issue. His answer was we are no longer accepting any new requests for "certificates." You must write to the state. Hoboken on the other hand is a bird of different feather as is North Bergen. They keep their records separate because of the hospitals in the area (Palisades General and St. Mary's Hospital.) Jill A. Pierson [email protected] and [email protected] "The truth is this, the march of Providence is so slow and our desires so impatient; the work of progress is so immense and our means of aiding it so feeble; the life of humanity is so long, that of the individual so brief, that we often see only the ebb of the advancing wave and are thus discouraged. It is history that teaches us to hope." Robert E. Lee ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== Visit the Hudson County N.J. GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/ ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ______________________________ X-Message: #2 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:00:13 -0400 From: Ray Cappock <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-id: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Your old license doesn't count but, if your passport is either current or expires less than three years, it is a substitute for a birth certificate. In fact, you cannot use both a birth certificate (no matter from what town in NJ) and a passport. Check the NJ DMV site: for info on what you need to bring for a new license. http://www.dmv.org/nj-new-jersey/drivers-license.php Ray C -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 1:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) This is so aggravating! I, as probably many other list members, was born at Margaret Hague Maternity Hospital (which closed in 1979). My mother received a copy of my birth certificate several weeks after I was born, but, because of the "suspected" sale of fradulent documents by county workers in Jersey City, my birth certificate is no longer valid!!! I'm one of those increasingly disappearing people who never got a photo license, because I wasn't required to. I use my passport when I have to produce photo ID. Next renewal, however, I'm required to add the photo to my license, which means I need to prove who I am and the old license doesn't count! So I need to produce a valid license (not the one I've used for 50+ years!) and other forms of ID. Maybe this would be a good time to assume a new identity! ;0) BTW - I understand the old Maternity Hospital building is being renovated into condos and rental apartments. Lauren Maehrlein Maehrlein's Heirlines Plant a tree, then start your family tree! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:52:46 EDT Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) Hi, This is what I was told by Weehawken's Board of Health and by Jersey City. Weehawken sent me to Jersey City after I gave them the information was looking for. For example, an 1959 Death Certificate from North Hudson Hospital. As for Jersey City, I had a dispute with the person over the phone about this issue. His answer was we are no longer accepting any new requests for "certificates." You must write to the state. Hoboken on the other hand is a bird of different feather as is North Bergen. They keep their records separate because of the hospitals in the area (Palisades General and St. Mary's Hospital.) Jill A. Pierson [email protected] and [email protected] "The truth is this, the march of Providence is so slow and our desires so impatient; the work of progress is so immense and our means of aiding it so feeble; the life of humanity is so long, that of the individual so brief, that we often see only the ebb of the advancing wave and are thus discouraged. It is history that teaches us to hope." Robert E. Lee ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== Visit the Hudson County N.J. GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/ ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== New people subscribe to and unsubscribe from the list each week. You are encouraged to resubmit your queries two or three times per year to reach new listmembers. ______________________________ X-Message: #3 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:32:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Gloria Bauer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: [NYC] Pre Castle Garden Arrival, Rudtner in NY, Stadelhofer in NJ (fwd) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Regards, Gloria M. Bauer ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:13:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Gloria Bauer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [NYC] Pre Castle Garden Arrival, Rudtner in NY, Stadelhofer in NJ Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:13:41 -0600 Resent-From: [email protected] I have two ancestors that arrived in the U.S.before Castle Garden. How do I find the ship they took to come to the U.S. What I know: Joseph Anton Rudtner born 19 Mar 1865 and Maria Katharina Rudtner born 8 Sept 1870 both came to the U.S. but I do not know for sure that they came together. Joseph Anton Rudtner Married Helene Stoll 28 Apr 1889 at St Nickolas Church in NYC He applied to become a citizen 7 May 1889 and became a citizen 14 Sept 1893. The 1920 Census shows his year of immigration as 1887. On a passport application in 1922 he says he emigrated sailing from Rotterdam about Sept 1888. Maria Katharina Rudtner, in 1911 lived on 121 Clinton Street in West Hoboken NJ, and she is married to Richard Stadelhofer. She died and was buried in Holy Name Cemetery on 14 Nov 1921. Any help will be appreciated. TIA, Gloria M. Bauer ==== NYC-ROOTS Mailing List ==== List tools for you to use (sub unsub, archives, admin addy) - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/misc.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. 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Regards, Gloria M. Bauer ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:13:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Gloria Bauer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [NYC] Pre Castle Garden Arrival, Rudtner in NY, Stadelhofer in NJ Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:13:41 -0600 Resent-From: [email protected] I have two ancestors that arrived in the U.S.before Castle Garden. How do I find the ship they took to come to the U.S. What I know: Joseph Anton Rudtner born 19 Mar 1865 and Maria Katharina Rudtner born 8 Sept 1870 both came to the U.S. but I do not know for sure that they came together. Joseph Anton Rudtner Married Helene Stoll 28 Apr 1889 at St Nickolas Church in NYC He applied to become a citizen 7 May 1889 and became a citizen 14 Sept 1893. The 1920 Census shows his year of immigration as 1887. On a passport application in 1922 he says he emigrated sailing from Rotterdam about Sept 1888. Maria Katharina Rudtner, in 1911 lived on 121 Clinton Street in West Hoboken NJ, and she is married to Richard Stadelhofer. She died and was buried in Holy Name Cemetery on 14 Nov 1921. Any help will be appreciated. TIA, Gloria M. Bauer ==== NYC-ROOTS Mailing List ==== List tools for you to use (sub unsub, archives, admin addy) - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/NY/misc.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Your old license doesn't count but, if your passport is either current or expires less than three years, it is a substitute for a birth certificate. In fact, you cannot use both a birth certificate (no matter from what town in NJ) and a passport. Check the NJ DMV site: for info on what you need to bring for a new license. http://www.dmv.org/nj-new-jersey/drivers-license.php Ray C -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 1:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) This is so aggravating! I, as probably many other list members, was born at Margaret Hague Maternity Hospital (which closed in 1979). My mother received a copy of my birth certificate several weeks after I was born, but, because of the "suspected" sale of fradulent documents by county workers in Jersey City, my birth certificate is no longer valid!!! I'm one of those increasingly disappearing people who never got a photo license, because I wasn't required to. I use my passport when I have to produce photo ID. Next renewal, however, I'm required to add the photo to my license, which means I need to prove who I am and the old license doesn't count! So I need to produce a valid license (not the one I've used for 50+ years!) and other forms of ID. Maybe this would be a good time to assume a new identity! ;0) BTW - I understand the old Maternity Hospital building is being renovated into condos and rental apartments. Lauren Maehrlein Maehrlein's Heirlines Plant a tree, then start your family tree! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:52:46 EDT Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) Hi, This is what I was told by Weehawken's Board of Health and by Jersey City. Weehawken sent me to Jersey City after I gave them the information was looking for. For example, an 1959 Death Certificate from North Hudson Hospital. As for Jersey City, I had a dispute with the person over the phone about this issue. His answer was we are no longer accepting any new requests for "certificates." You must write to the state. Hoboken on the other hand is a bird of different feather as is North Bergen. They keep their records separate because of the hospitals in the area (Palisades General and St. Mary's Hospital.) Jill A. Pierson [email protected] and [email protected] "The truth is this, the march of Providence is so slow and our desires so impatient; the work of progress is so immense and our means of aiding it so feeble; the life of humanity is so long, that of the individual so brief, that we often see only the ebb of the advancing wave and are thus discouraged. It is history that teaches us to hope." Robert E. Lee ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== Visit the Hudson County N.J. GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/ ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== New people subscribe to and unsubscribe from the list each week. You are encouraged to resubmit your queries two or three times per year to reach new listmembers.

This is so aggravating! I, as probably many other list members, was born at Margaret Hague Maternity Hospital (which closed in 1979). My mother received a copy of my birth certificate several weeks after I was born, but, because of the "suspected" sale of fradulent documents by county workers in Jersey City, my birth certificate is no longer valid!!! I'm one of those increasingly disappearing people who never got a photo license, because I wasn't required to. I use my passport when I have to produce photo ID. Next renewal, however, I'm required to add the photo to my license, which means I need to prove who I am and the old license doesn't count! So I need to produce a valid license (not the one I've used for 50+ years!) and other forms of ID. Maybe this would be a good time to assume a new identity! ;0) BTW - I understand the old Maternity Hospital building is being renovated into condos and rental apartments. Lauren Maehrlein Maehrlein's Heirlines Plant a tree, then start your family tree! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:52:46 EDT Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON-L] (no subject) Hi, This is what I was told by Weehawken's Board of Health and by Jersey City. Weehawken sent me to Jersey City after I gave them the information was looking for. For example, an 1959 Death Certificate from North Hudson Hospital. As for Jersey City, I had a dispute with the person over the phone about this issue. His answer was we are no longer accepting any new requests for "certificates." You must write to the state. Hoboken on the other hand is a bird of different feather as is North Bergen. They keep their records separate because of the hospitals in the area (Palisades General and St. Mary's Hospital.) Jill A. Pierson [email protected] and [email protected] "The truth is this, the march of Providence is so slow and our desires so impatient; the work of progress is so immense and our means of aiding it so feeble; the life of humanity is so long, that of the individual so brief, that we often see only the ebb of the advancing wave and are thus discouraged. It is history that teaches us to hope." Robert E. Lee ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== Visit the Hudson County N.J. GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/ ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.

Hi, This is what I was told by Weehawken's Board of Health and by Jersey City. Weehawken sent me to Jersey City after I gave them the information was looking for. For example, an 1959 Death Certificate from North Hudson Hospital. As for Jersey City, I had a dispute with the person over the phone about this issue. His answer was we are no longer accepting any new requests for "certificates." You must write to the state. Hoboken on the other hand is a bird of different feather as is North Bergen. They keep their records separate because of the hospitals in the area (Palisades General and St. Mary's Hospital.) Jill A. Pierson [email protected] and [email protected] "The truth is this, the march of Providence is so slow and our desires so impatient; the work of progress is so immense and our means of aiding it so feeble; the life of humanity is so long, that of the individual so brief, that we often see only the ebb of the advancing wave and are thus discouraged. It is history that teaches us to hope." Robert E. Lee

_http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/unioncity/page15.html_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/unioncity/page15.html) _Union City Web Page_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/unioncity/page15.html) This page has the changes of the streets for NB and UC. Ann In a message dated 6/28/2006 1:13:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi, I just wanted to let you know that effective July 1st you will no longer be able to obtain birth, marriage, death etc.. from Jersey City. The office has been closed. Therefore, we all have to write to the state. Please note that this information only pertains to records that are from Union City/West Hoboken/Union/Union Hill, Weehawken (including those from N. Hudson Hospital), and Jersey City. Actually, it pertains to all records housed in Jersey City. I do have one question. Does anyone know where I can get a list of street name changes for North Bergen. I have tried to search the web and only had a minimal luck. Jill Jill A. Pierson [email protected] and [email protected] "The truth is this, the march of Providence is so slow and our desires so impatient; the work of progress is so immense and our means of aiding it so feeble; the life of humanity is so long, that of the individual so brief, that we often see only the ebb of the advancing wave and are thus discouraged. It is history that teaches us to hope." Robert E. Lee ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== Visit the Hudson County N.J. GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/ AVFinkel Farmingdale, NJ

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that effective July 1st you will no longer be able to obtain birth, marriage, death etc.. from Jersey City. The office has been closed. Therefore, we all have to write to the state. Please note that this information only pertains to records that are from Union City/West Hoboken/Union/Union Hill, Weehawken (including those from N. Hudson Hospital), and Jersey City. Actually, it pertains to all records housed in Jersey City. I do have one question. Does anyone know where I can get a list of street name changes for North Bergen. I have tried to search the web and only had a minimal luck. Jill Jill A. Pierson [email protected] and [email protected] "The truth is this, the march of Providence is so slow and our desires so impatient; the work of progress is so immense and our means of aiding it so feeble; the life of humanity is so long, that of the individual so brief, that we often see only the ebb of the advancing wave and are thus discouraged. It is history that teaches us to hope." Robert E. Lee

I have information that a sister of my great grandfather and her 2 children lived in Jersey City, NJ after 1910. Would there be any city directories that would possibly have them listed? Dora Velten and children Conrad and Dora Velten in 1910 census are listed in Jersey City NJ, county Hudson. 1920 census lists Dora Velten as head of household and daughter Dora. Thank you all so much, this is a new list for me. Maybe someone else is researching this surname. Ruth Ann -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/376 - Release Date: 6/26/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/376 - Release Date: 6/26/2006

Anyone researching HAPPEL or DAVIS???? Davis (mid to late 1880 - early 1900's) Alonzo Davis (married Lillie or Lillian ?) Edith Davis (married Elmer Gear or Geer ?) Lawrence Davis (married Mary Ann Bird Guttanger) Louis Davis Marion C. Davis (married Henry Happel) Mary Davis Paul Davis

Hello All, I have scanned and added more pages to the history book "Jersey City". In addition I also added a map from the book "Jersey City Survey April 15, 1804". You can view both at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 6/25/2006