A GREAT lesson for all. Thanks Tom. Ann In a message dated 7/16/2006 12:01:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hello Evelyn and List. ANYONE RESEARCHING IRISH SURNAMES ON ANCESTRY.COM SHOULD READ THIS !!! Evelyn, I found your Thomas, Anna & son William McHugh in the 1930 census and forwarded the image tio you. If you have not received it, please contact me. Ancestry.com has butchered the processing of some Irish surnames in some of their programs, not just the census records. Names starting with "Mc" such as McHugh were often erroneously transcribed as Mc Hugh with a space between the Mc and the rest of the name. In the 1930 census for Jersey City there are 77 McHughs found if you enter McHugh in the search bloc. The problem is that there were about 130 McHughs in JC in the 1930 census. If you input the name erroneously with a space between Mc and Hugh (Mc Hugh), you will find another 53 McHughs that the original search did not locate, including Evelyn's missing Thomas, Anna, and son William. Ancestry.com had also butchered the transcription of surnames begining with "O' ". If you input my surname in the search bloc, the response will be "Your Exact Search for O'Hare returned no matches." Ancestry has dropped the apostrophe in names begining with O'. As a result you can never get an accurate search response for those names without corrupting the name, such as "ohare". Ancestry has also input a number of O' names incorrectly by reporting the O as a middle initial and the rest of the name as the surname.Thus in 1930 in Binghamton, N.Y. Margaret O'Hare was incorrectly transcribed as Margaret O. Hare, and is indexed under surname Hare, not her real surname O'Hare. Having a degree of poor quality in their product is one thing, but not owning up to it is quite another. These flaws were reported to Ancestry by me on several occasions, but they have ignored my complaints. Recently I have filed a complaint with the BBB, Utah. Use caution when using Ancestry.com for Mc and O' Irish surnames. Tom O'Hare, Buffalo, N.Y. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] Re: NJHUDSON-D Digest V06 #99 > Anyone with access to the 1930 Federal Census for Jersey City could help > me > a great deal by sending me the image from my father's parent's entry. > > I spent years trying to find my Dad, Arthur McHugh and his parents Anna > (Sprenger) and Thomas McHugh without success and thought the census had > simply > missed them when I could not find a baby Arthur anywhere that was the > correct > age with the correct parents. I did not have an exact DOB for Thomas, but > I > did know that Anna was born in 1909 or 10, depending upon whom and what > you > believed. > > Last weekend, I decided to give it one last shot by using the Ancestry > free > 3 day trial, and I found a couple with the correct names and ages living > in > JC with a baby "William" aged nine months. That Thomas was born in 1908, > which > fits the information I have and it apparently explained a part of the > family > rift that happened when my grandfather died in 1934 - that Irish Catholic > "William" (named after Thomas' brother in law) became "Arthur", > rechristened as > a Lutheran and renamed after Anna's father's brother in law and lifelong > best friend, Arthur Bowden when Anna returned home to live with her > parents > after her husband died. > > As you can guess, this filled in a lot of holes in family history for us, > mainly why none of the McHugh's talked to the Sprengers until my late > father was > nearly fifty years old - and why Dad refused to have anything to do with > religion or religious services or talk about his upbringing. > > I tried to send myself the image, but Ancestry sent me only a link, and > will > not let me access the information without plucking down my credit card for > the infamous "14 day free trial", which I refuse to do. If anyone could > send me > the information, it would be very much appreciated. The three of them were > living on Bartholdi Avenue, just a short way from the Sprenger's and > McHugh's > family homes. > > Thanks for any help - > > Evelyn McHugh > Researching McHugh, Rehill, Sprenger and Kraft from Jersey City from > 1900 - > 1960. > > > =epm= > > Ask not why the rose has thorns. > Rather rejoice that the thornbush has a rose. > - Anonymous > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > New people subscribe to and unsubscribe from the list each week. > You are encouraged to resubmit your queries two or three times > per year to reach new listmembers. > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== Visit the Hudson County N.J. GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/ Annie NJ
Does Heritage Quest & Pro Quest offer any different information than I can get on Ancestry.com?
Where can I get school records for the following family members: Alonzo Happel 1911 - 1920 William 1911 - 1920 Happel 1912 - 1925 Renold Happel 1913 - 1926 Walter Happel 1916 - 1929 There may have been other Hudson County addresses in between these, but these are the only records I found - 1911 - 1913 Old 19th Street and Park Avenue, Weehawken 1916 - 1919 181 Summit Avenue, West Hoboken 1919 - 1920 511 Dodd Street, West Hoboken 1931 485 Palisade Avenue, West New York THANKS!
Hello Evelyn and List. ANYONE RESEARCHING IRISH SURNAMES ON ANCESTRY.COM SHOULD READ THIS !!! Evelyn, I found your Thomas, Anna & son William McHugh in the 1930 census and forwarded the image tio you. If you have not received it, please contact me. Ancestry.com has butchered the processing of some Irish surnames in some of their programs, not just the census records. Names starting with "Mc" such as McHugh were often erroneously transcribed as Mc Hugh with a space between the Mc and the rest of the name. In the 1930 census for Jersey City there are 77 McHughs found if you enter McHugh in the search bloc. The problem is that there were about 130 McHughs in JC in the 1930 census. If you input the name erroneously with a space between Mc and Hugh (Mc Hugh), you will find another 53 McHughs that the original search did not locate, including Evelyn's missing Thomas, Anna, and son William. Ancestry.com had also butchered the transcription of surnames begining with "O' ". If you input my surname in the search bloc, the response will be "Your Exact Search for O'Hare returned no matches." Ancestry has dropped the apostrophe in names begining with O'. As a result you can never get an accurate search response for those names without corrupting the name, such as "ohare". Ancestry has also input a number of O' names incorrectly by reporting the O as a middle initial and the rest of the name as the surname.Thus in 1930 in Binghamton, N.Y. Margaret O'Hare was incorrectly transcribed as Margaret O. Hare, and is indexed under surname Hare, not her real surname O'Hare. Having a degree of poor quality in their product is one thing, but not owning up to it is quite another. These flaws were reported to Ancestry by me on several occasions, but they have ignored my complaints. Recently I have filed a complaint with the BBB, Utah. Use caution when using Ancestry.com for Mc and O' Irish surnames. Tom O'Hare, Buffalo, N.Y. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] Re: NJHUDSON-D Digest V06 #99 > Anyone with access to the 1930 Federal Census for Jersey City could help > me > a great deal by sending me the image from my father's parent's entry. > > I spent years trying to find my Dad, Arthur McHugh and his parents Anna > (Sprenger) and Thomas McHugh without success and thought the census had > simply > missed them when I could not find a baby Arthur anywhere that was the > correct > age with the correct parents. I did not have an exact DOB for Thomas, but > I > did know that Anna was born in 1909 or 10, depending upon whom and what > you > believed. > > Last weekend, I decided to give it one last shot by using the Ancestry > free > 3 day trial, and I found a couple with the correct names and ages living > in > JC with a baby "William" aged nine months. That Thomas was born in 1908, > which > fits the information I have and it apparently explained a part of the > family > rift that happened when my grandfather died in 1934 - that Irish Catholic > "William" (named after Thomas' brother in law) became "Arthur", > rechristened as > a Lutheran and renamed after Anna's father's brother in law and lifelong > best friend, Arthur Bowden when Anna returned home to live with her > parents > after her husband died. > > As you can guess, this filled in a lot of holes in family history for us, > mainly why none of the McHugh's talked to the Sprengers until my late > father was > nearly fifty years old - and why Dad refused to have anything to do with > religion or religious services or talk about his upbringing. > > I tried to send myself the image, but Ancestry sent me only a link, and > will > not let me access the information without plucking down my credit card for > the infamous "14 day free trial", which I refuse to do. If anyone could > send me > the information, it would be very much appreciated. The three of them were > living on Bartholdi Avenue, just a short way from the Sprenger's and > McHugh's > family homes. > > Thanks for any help - > > Evelyn McHugh > Researching McHugh, Rehill, Sprenger and Kraft from Jersey City from > 1900 - > 1960. > > > =epm= > > Ask not why the rose has thorns. > Rather rejoice that the thornbush has a rose. > - Anonymous > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > New people subscribe to and unsubscribe from the list each week. > You are encouraged to resubmit your queries two or three times > per year to reach new listmembers. > >
Anyone with access to the 1930 Federal Census for Jersey City could help me a great deal by sending me the image from my father's parent's entry. I spent years trying to find my Dad, Arthur McHugh and his parents Anna (Sprenger) and Thomas McHugh without success and thought the census had simply missed them when I could not find a baby Arthur anywhere that was the correct age with the correct parents. I did not have an exact DOB for Thomas, but I did know that Anna was born in 1909 or 10, depending upon whom and what you believed. Last weekend, I decided to give it one last shot by using the Ancestry free 3 day trial, and I found a couple with the correct names and ages living in JC with a baby "William" aged nine months. That Thomas was born in 1908, which fits the information I have and it apparently explained a part of the family rift that happened when my grandfather died in 1934 - that Irish Catholic "William" (named after Thomas' brother in law) became "Arthur", rechristened as a Lutheran and renamed after Anna's father's brother in law and lifelong best friend, Arthur Bowden when Anna returned home to live with her parents after her husband died. As you can guess, this filled in a lot of holes in family history for us, mainly why none of the McHugh's talked to the Sprengers until my late father was nearly fifty years old - and why Dad refused to have anything to do with religion or religious services or talk about his upbringing. I tried to send myself the image, but Ancestry sent me only a link, and will not let me access the information without plucking down my credit card for the infamous "14 day free trial", which I refuse to do. If anyone could send me the information, it would be very much appreciated. The three of them were living on Bartholdi Avenue, just a short way from the Sprenger's and McHugh's family homes. Thanks for any help - Evelyn McHugh Researching McHugh, Rehill, Sprenger and Kraft from Jersey City from 1900 - 1960. =epm= Ask not why the rose has thorns. Rather rejoice that the thornbush has a rose. - Anonymous
Does anyone out there know what ward in the 1920 census for W. Hoboken I would find the address "310 Jane, W. Hoboken, NJ." My GF's draft registration card lists this as his address in May of 1919. I cannot locate him by name (he, his, wife, and M-I-L are all "missing") using the index to the 1920 census, so I thought I could find the address and see who was living there 7 months later (maybe the indexers missed him and his family?). But I cannot find the address. I have been thru the wards for Hoboken and W. Hoboken and did not find "Jane" as a street name in the left side margin. Anybody have any thoughts where I should look in the census records? Chris Watson
I am looking for information on the descendants of my grand uncle, Peter Daly of 196 Pavonia Avenue, Jersey City who died on December 3rd, 1952 as a result of a fire in his apartment. The fire was reported in The Jersey Journal of Wednesday 3rd December, 1952. In the death announcement that followed I learned that Peter was survived by two sons, Bernard and John and one daughter, Mrs. Mae Nicholas as well as 14 grandchildren and 9 great grandchildren. He and his wife Julia were pre-deceased by three sons, Peter, Paul and Matthew and two daughters Elizabeth O'Brien and Julia Firth. Elizabeth had one son,George O'Brien who was living with Peter and Julia according to the 1930 Census. Paul had three daughters, Theresa, Margaret and Claire who were living at 254, Ninth Street, Jersey City, with their mother Mary, in December 1952. Mae had two sons (names not known) who were both married before 1953. Any information on any of Peter's grandchildren or great grandchildren would be appreciated greatly. Thanking you all, Paddy Daly. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts
Hi, Mona, I searched around on Ancestry through all their military stuff and couldn't find absolute confirmation that your George Jacobus served and died in WWI. However, what about sending for the death cert for the George Jacobus who died in 1917, while Lillian Jacobus was still pregnant? Do you know that Lillian was a Greiner? Good luck, Jeanne ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:14 PM Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] George JACOBUS family--1917-1920 > George Iliff JACOBUS was born 24 March 1894 in Newark to Serlena STEWART > and > Augustus JACOBUS. I have a copy of George JACOBUS' WWI draft > registration > card. At the time of registration--1917--he was living in Jersey City, > NJ > with his "pregnant wife". He was a fireman for the P. R. R. (Penna. R. > R.?) > > I cannot find him in the 1920 census. But I did find a Greiner family in > Jersey City, 9 WD. One of the Greiner daughters is a Lillie JACOBUS, 26 > years > old and widowed. With her is her son, George, age 2 years and 3/12 > months. > > My question is--can anyone help me?--is this Lillie Jacobus the widow of > George Iliff Jacobus? Did her perhaps serve in WW I and was killed? > > I would appreciate any help. Thanks. > > Mona, Richmond, IN --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
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Anyone researching HAPPEL or DAVIS???? Davis (mid to late 1880 - early 1900's) Alonzo Davis (married Lillie or Lillian ?) Edith Davis (married Elmer Gear or Geer ?) Lawrence Davis (married Mary Ann Bird Guttanger) Louis Davis Marion C. Davis (married Henry Happel) Mary Davis Paul Davis
Here is his WWI draft Registration card. I could send you the original off list. It says he has a pregnant wife, was born in Newark, Essex, NJ and is a fireman. World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Record Name: George Iliff Jacobus City: Jersey City County: Hudson State: New Jersey Birthplace: New York;United States of America Birth Date: 24 Mar 1894 Race: White Roll: 1712211 DraftBoard: 7 Dotty Sprague Cole Lake Mary, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:14 PM Subject: [NJHUDSON-L] George JACOBUS family--1917-1920 > George Iliff JACOBUS was born 24 March 1894 in Newark to Serlena STEWART > and > Augustus JACOBUS. I have a copy of George JACOBUS' WWI draft > registration > card. At the time of registration--1917--he was living in Jersey City, > NJ > with his "pregnant wife". He was a fireman for the P. R. R. (Penna. R. > R.?) > > I cannot find him in the 1920 census. But I did find a Greiner family in > Jersey City, 9 WD. One of the Greiner daughters is a Lillie JACOBUS, 26 > years > old and widowed. With her is her son, George, age 2 years and 3/12 > months. > > My question is--can anyone help me?--is this Lillie Jacobus the widow of > George Iliff Jacobus? Did her perhaps serve in WW I and was killed? > > I would appreciate any help. Thanks. > > Mona, Richmond, IN > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > Use [email protected] to write to the NJHUDSON list. > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the NJHUDSON list, use > [email protected] > >
It is possible hat he died in WWI or he may have died from the influenza epedemic of 1918. Regards, Gloria M. Bauer On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, [email protected] wrote: > George Iliff JACOBUS was born 24 March 1894 in Newark to Serlena STEWART and > Augustus JACOBUS. I have a copy of George JACOBUS' WWI draft registration > card. At the time of registration--1917--he was living in Jersey City, NJ > with his "pregnant wife". He was a fireman for the P. R. R. (Penna. R. R.?) > > I cannot find him in the 1920 census. But I did find a Greiner family in > Jersey City, 9 WD. One of the Greiner daughters is a Lillie JACOBUS, 26 years > old and widowed. With her is her son, George, age 2 years and 3/12 months. > > My question is--can anyone help me?--is this Lillie Jacobus the widow of > George Iliff Jacobus? Did her perhaps serve in WW I and was killed? > > I would appreciate any help. Thanks. > > Mona, Richmond, IN > > > ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== > Use [email protected] to write to the NJHUDSON list. > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the NJHUDSON list, use > [email protected] > >
George Iliff JACOBUS was born 24 March 1894 in Newark to Serlena STEWART and Augustus JACOBUS. I have a copy of George JACOBUS' WWI draft registration card. At the time of registration--1917--he was living in Jersey City, NJ with his "pregnant wife". He was a fireman for the P. R. R. (Penna. R. R.?) I cannot find him in the 1920 census. But I did find a Greiner family in Jersey City, 9 WD. One of the Greiner daughters is a Lillie JACOBUS, 26 years old and widowed. With her is her son, George, age 2 years and 3/12 months. My question is--can anyone help me?--is this Lillie Jacobus the widow of George Iliff Jacobus? Did her perhaps serve in WW I and was killed? I would appreciate any help. Thanks. Mona, Richmond, IN
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Donna: Would that be [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ? Thanks. Ann In a message dated 7/6/2006 4:42:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I hope those who are not subbed to the Discuss-L list are at least browsing the archives. There is much to learn there about who is running for office. I am subbed to the Discuss-L list and it has been an eye-opening experience, believe me. Reviewing the campaign pages is one thing, but reviewing the posts in the Discuss-L list give you even more insight into how those running for office say they will be in office and what their opinions are. Makes for some very interesting reading. I would suggest that everyone review those archives in order to make a more-informed decision BEFORE you vote. Don't wait until afterward to decide what you should/should have done, if you know what I mean. It's definitely been an education for me. Denise Wells Coordinator for Hudson County, NJ ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== Visit the Hudson County N.J. GenWeb page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/
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I hope those who are not subbed to the Discuss-L list are at least browsing the archives. There is much to learn there about who is running for office. I am subbed to the Discuss-L list and it has been an eye-opening experience, believe me. Reviewing the campaign pages is one thing, but reviewing the posts in the Discuss-L list give you even more insight into how those running for office say they will be in office and what their opinions are. Makes for some very interesting reading. I would suggest that everyone review those archives in order to make a more-informed decision BEFORE you vote. Don't wait until afterward to decide what you should/should have done, if you know what I mean. It's definitely been an education for me. Denise Wells Coordinator for Hudson County, NJ
If anyone is interested in the year book "The OWL" from Dickinson Accredited Evening High School, pictures of graduates for the 10th Anniversary in 1935, January class, I will be glad to forward the page that your relative is on. My Brother, Vendel Derer recently passed away and his son gave me his year book. Before I pass it on to other family members, I thought that I would ask if anyone would care to have a picture of a page or two. Dr. James A. Nugent was Superintedent of Schools in Jersey City at that time. As a former "Jersey Cityite", or is it Jersey Cityan?, I'm still a "Joisy Goil". Regards to all Helen (Derer) Grollmusz [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])
If anyone is interested in the year book "The OWL" from Dickinson Accredited Evening High School, pictures of graduates for the 10th Anniversary in 1935, January class, I will be glad to forward the page that your relative is on. My Brother, Vendel Derer recently passed away and his son gave me his year book. Before I pass it on to other family members, I thought that I would ask if anyone would care to have a picture of a page or two. Dr. James A. Nugent was Superintedent of Schools in Jersey City at that time. As a former "Jersey Cityite", or is it Jersey Cityan?, I'm still a "Joisy Goil". Regards to all Helen (Derer) Grollmusz [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])
Alan, Thank you for sharing your work on the book, "Jersey City". I am enjoying reading some of the interesting facts about the birth of the place where I was born. So many of the names of places I grew up with took on a whole new life, when I read about their namesakes. I have just recently picked up a copy of "New Jersey, America's Main Road", by John T. Cunningham, at a used book sale, in Salt Lake City. It also is fascinating with it's history, maps and pictures. Sincerely, Sandra Alan Buckingham <[email protected]> wrote: Hello All, I have scanned and uploaded the final pages of the book "Jersey City". You can view the entire book at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006 ==== NJHUDSON Mailing List ==== Your donations to RootsWeb makes NJHUDSON possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.