You all are from Jersey City..... Is anyone connected or searching the Patey family from Jersey City? Anyone remember them? This was my Mom's people. I still have a brick wall or "hole" when it comes to Achile Jr. (Richard) Patey after he married Katherine Dempsey in a Catholic church between 1887 They went to St.Aedan's church or St. Bridget's, neither have a marriage record He changed from Protestant to Catholic and changed the name Achile to Richard. Any ideas? I have the rest of the family traced to the present.. Joan

It may have begun as a need-based activity when there were real class/economic distinctions in cities. Does anyone know if TG begging was done in suburban areas? When my family moved to Nutley in the early 50's, the kids in my school had never heard of such a thing. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:21 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Remembering Gail: As far as I can remember we went out on Thanksgiving morning as far back as 1930's. I am 74. Ann from North Bergen In a message dated 10/25/2006 7:01:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Does anyone have a clue as to how begging on Thanksgiving started? I never heard any of my relatives talking about it. I'm going to have to quiz some of my mother's first cousins. I wonder if it was a particular ethnic tradition? This is all very interesting stuff. Gail Salem, VA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _www.HFReunion.org_ (http://www.hfreunion.org/) _www.FineLivingFl.com_ (http://www.finelivingfl.com/) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maureen Thanks for the info. It looks like I will never find them if they were buried there. I live in Florida so I can not go to the cemetary. Arlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "MJ Mann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Franklin Street / nearby cemeteries > Arlene, > > Weehawken CEM is in North Bergen. It's non-denominational. I have a > lot of people on my mother's side buried there. (at least 14 in 5 > different plots) It predominately a German cemetery. > > BUT they don't have an index for the old burials. 'index cards' > start in the 1930's that state who else is in the plot. Before that, > there are only day book registers. (An entry was made in the book with > death/burial information, one after the other, by date buried, not > alpha. order). You find each entry that is 'yours', compare plot > number listed for each, and see if they're together or separate. > > When I was there awhile ago, it was only a husband/wife caretaker. > Don't know if burials still take place. In my family, the last were > two in 1987/88. > > They don't do phone or mail requests. They will let you look at the > books IF you go there. Warning .... it's VERY time consuming, > especially if you don't know a date. (That's why they won't/can't do > it.) > > Hope this helps, > Maureen

Marge , my name is Joanne Brown and I saw your post. If you would like I have Ancestry .com. If you would like, I would be glad to do look ups for you. Part of my family was from NJ. Hudson County, Jersey City new Jersey. Give me some dates and names. And will see what I can fine. Will look for you this afternoon when I get home from work.. Joanne On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:09:30 -0400 [email protected] (Marge) writes: > Can anyone tell me how you go about looking up family in the 1885 > Census. > My cousin who lives in JC went to the JC Library to look up some > names > in the Directories , while there he looked over the 1885 Census > film. > He just wrote and said finding anyone would be impossible as the > pages > did not have street names on them. I wondered if there is a way of > finding family in this Census. Thanks. > > Marge > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Put God in the center And everything will Come together

My uncle Bruce lived at 254 Halladay Street. His children were born around the same time as you: William RAY born 1922 Charles RAY born 1924 Gladys RAY born abt. 1928 Bert RAY born 1929 Uncle Bruce was a very tall, fair skinned man with hazel-colored eyes. Could you have known them? Shawntez margaret hinz <[email protected]> wrote: I was born on Halladay St 1925, Schmitt/Galm family in JC from 1890 Margaret s lyman wrote: All this remembering is sure making me wonder too. Would anyone happen to know of an African-American family by the name of Ray that lived on Halladay Street around the 1930's in Jersey City? My great uncle, Bruce Ray, was a bus driver. Just wondering if anyone knew the kids: Gladys, Robert, William, Charles...there may be a few more I don't know about at the present time. If not, reading the memories have been great! Everyone has a story to tell, and I love it. Thanks for sharing a bit of nostalgia and history with us who don't have grandparents around to ask. Yours, S. Lyman --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.

My mother born in 1913 spoke about Thanksgiving begging when she was a kid. We can go back that far at least.

Arlene, Weehawken CEM is in North Bergen. It's non-denominational. I have a lot of people on my mother's side buried there. (at least 14 in 5 different plots) It predominately a German cemetery. BUT they don't have an index for the old burials. 'index cards' start in the 1930's that state who else is in the plot. Before that, there are only day book registers. (An entry was made in the book with death/burial information, one after the other, by date buried, not alpha. order). You find each entry that is 'yours', compare plot number listed for each, and see if they're together or separate. When I was there awhile ago, it was only a husband/wife caretaker. Don't know if burials still take place. In my family, the last were two in 1987/88. They don't do phone or mail requests. They will let you look at the books IF you go there. Warning .... it's VERY time consuming, especially if you don't know a date. (That's why they won't/can't do it.) Hope this helps, Maureen On 10/25/06, Arlene Mobley <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi I was wondering if anyone could help me. My gggrandmother Christianna > Stretz is listed on the 1900 census as living at 287 Franklin Street. I have > been trying to find some info on her or her husband Andrew's burial. The > last time I find Andrew is in the New York City Directory, 1890 page 6882 > Stretz Andrew, sponger, 100 Centre, h Hoboken > > I have a death certificate for one son Fredrick Stretz who died in 1914.His > address is 175 E. Houston Street. Christianna is not found in any census > after 1900. Place of buriel for Fredrick is Weehawken Em. in West Hoboken. > What does Em mean? I think it might stand for Embalmer (?) since Fredrick > died of Pulmonary Tuberculosis. I'd like to find out if Christianna & Andrew > are buried there also. The family was Jewish. Where else might they be > buried? > > Arlene > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use,disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

Hi I was wondering if anyone could help me. My gggrandmother Christianna Stretz is listed on the 1900 census as living at 287 Franklin Street. I have been trying to find some info on her or her husband Andrew's burial. The last time I find Andrew is in the New York City Directory, 1890 page 6882 Stretz Andrew, sponger, 100 Centre, h Hoboken I have a death certificate for one son Fredrick Stretz who died in 1914.His address is 175 E. Houston Street. Christianna is not found in any census after 1900. Place of buriel for Fredrick is Weehawken Em. in West Hoboken. What does Em mean? I think it might stand for Embalmer (?) since Fredrick died of Pulmonary Tuberculosis. I'd like to find out if Christianna & Andrew are buried there also. The family was Jewish. Where else might they be buried? Arlene

I grew up in JC and Union City in the early 50's and we would go "begging" at Thanksgiving and we, too, looked like hobos. We usually got fruit or nuts and would knock on doors and say, "Anything for Thanksgiving?" Also went out on Halloween night and had to be careful because the bigger kids (usually the boys) would hit us with flour socks and/or mark our coats with the big, thick pieces of chalk. They were innocent, fun days... And to Maureen, I don't know if you have your mother's yearbook, but I posted the names of the graduates some time back on the JC site. If you would like, I will be glad to rephotograph your mother's photo for you if you don't have one. Just let me know her name etc. Mary Bier Wilson Fellsmere, FL

Thanks Mike. I will look into getting the right Ward or District for the family. I will contact Bob for some help. Marge

The census divided by wards or districts. If you can find the person in the city directory you may be able to establish the ward or district. Joan Lowery on the list help me with a 1895 ward map. I found my family this way. The Jersey City Rootsweb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~njhudson/JC/1875_and_1885_state_census_findi.htm Bob Murgittroyd claims to have a finding aide for 1885 if you have the ancestors address. Mike -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marge Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NJHUDSON] Census Question ?? Can anyone tell me how you go about looking up family in the 1885 Census. My cousin who lives in JC went to the JC Library to look up some names in the Directories , while there he looked over the 1885 Census film. He just wrote and said finding anyone would be impossible as the pages did not have street names on them. I wondered if there is a way of finding family in this Census. Thanks. Marge ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gail: As far as I can remember we went out on Thanksgiving morning as far back as 1930's. I am 74. Ann from North Bergen In a message dated 10/25/2006 7:01:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Does anyone have a clue as to how begging on Thanksgiving started? I never heard any of my relatives talking about it. I'm going to have to quiz some of my mother's first cousins. I wonder if it was a particular ethnic tradition? This is all very interesting stuff. Gail Salem, VA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _www.HFReunion.org_ (http://www.hfreunion.org/) _www.FineLivingFl.com_ (http://www.finelivingfl.com/)

Can anyone tell me how you go about looking up family in the 1885 Census. My cousin who lives in JC went to the JC Library to look up some names in the Directories , while there he looked over the 1885 Census film. He just wrote and said finding anyone would be impossible as the pages did not have street names on them. I wondered if there is a way of finding family in this Census. Thanks. Marge

You prompted me to look in The Scroll, Snyder's year book. The only listed the graduati ng class. I didn't attend any functions either. Worked part-time in NYC after school, had my classes scheduled in the morning. Hard work, but graduated salutatorian. Has your husband attended any class reunions? Margaret My husband Bob Peterson graduated Snyder in 1944 in the June part. He lived on Bartholdi Ave. but worked full time most of high school so didn't go to any functions. He had two brother Rich and Bill. We moved out of JC in 1950. Justine ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret hinz" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Remembering > Mike, I graduated Snyder 1944. Would love to contact someone who > graduated then. It was the early part of 1944. They had 2 graduations a > year then. Did they have it when you and your sister graduateed? > > Peg > > Mike McHenry wrote: > As everyone is recalling High School as well. I graduated Snyder in 1965. > My > siblings graduated as follows my brother Jim and his wife Barbara Haytko > Ferris 1958, my brother Bill and my sister Barbara Ferris in 1957 and my > sister Carol Snyder in 1954. That has to overlap someone on the list! > > Mike McHenry > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Diane > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:00 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Remembering > > Teri, > > I work at Ferris Hs :) > Diane > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:33 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Remembering > > I lived on Montgomery Street, we were at Montgomery and Grove right by the > City Hall. That was about 31 years ago. I also went to Ferris High School > class > of 67. > > Teri > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/493 - Release Date: > 10/23/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/493 - Release Date: > 10/23/2006 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

I was born on Halladay St 1925, Schmitt/Galm family in JC from 1890 Margaret s lyman <[email protected]> wrote: All this remembering is sure making me wonder too. Would anyone happen to know of an African-American family by the name of Ray that lived on Halladay Street around the 1930's in Jersey City? My great uncle, Bruce Ray, was a bus driver. Just wondering if anyone knew the kids: Gladys, Robert, William, Charles...there may be a few more I don't know about at the present time. If not, reading the memories have been great! Everyone has a story to tell, and I love it. Thanks for sharing a bit of nostalgia and history with us who don't have grandparents around to ask. Yours, S. Lyman --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.

My husband Bob Peterson graduated Snyder in 1944 in the June part. He lived on Bartholdi Ave. but worked full time most of high school so didn't go to any functions. He had two brother Rich and Bill. We moved out of JC in 1950. Justine ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret hinz" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Remembering > Mike, I graduated Snyder 1944. Would love to contact someone who > graduated then. It was the early part of 1944. They had 2 graduations a > year then. Did they have it when you and your sister graduateed? > > Peg > > Mike McHenry <[email protected]> wrote: > As everyone is recalling High School as well. I graduated Snyder in 1965. > My > siblings graduated as follows my brother Jim and his wife Barbara Haytko > Ferris 1958, my brother Bill and my sister Barbara Ferris in 1957 and my > sister Carol Snyder in 1954. That has to overlap someone on the list! > > Mike McHenry > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Diane > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:00 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Remembering > > Teri, > > I work at Ferris Hs :) > Diane > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:33 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Remembering > > I lived on Montgomery Street, we were at Montgomery and Grove right by the > City Hall. That was about 31 years ago. I also went to Ferris High School > class > of 67. > > Teri > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/493 - Release Date: > 10/23/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/493 - Release Date: > 10/23/2006 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mike, I graduated Snyder 1944. Would love to contact someone who graduated then. It was the early part of 1944. They had 2 graduations a year then. Did they have it when you and your sister graduateed? Peg Mike McHenry <[email protected]> wrote: As everyone is recalling High School as well. I graduated Snyder in 1965. My siblings graduated as follows my brother Jim and his wife Barbara Haytko Ferris 1958, my brother Bill and my sister Barbara Ferris in 1957 and my sister Carol Snyder in 1954. That has to overlap someone on the list! Mike McHenry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Diane Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Remembering Teri, I work at Ferris Hs :) Diane -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NJHUDSON] Remembering I lived on Montgomery Street, we were at Montgomery and Grove right by the City Hall. That was about 31 years ago. I also went to Ferris High School class of 67. Teri ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/493 - Release Date: 10/23/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/493 - Release Date: 10/23/2006 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com

Hi List, Does anyone have a connectio to : John Byrnes (Burns) his wife Bridget Kennedy. Their daughter married a John O'Brien in 1872. John and Bridget came to the US Feb. 1859, destination Jersey City. This family always lived next door to the Smith family, I imagine a connection there as well. The family lived Cornelison and Montgomery area. Marge ps there were 12 children in the Burns family.

My sister Kathleen McCormick remembers John (Son) very well. He was a year behind her in school. They both attended St. Bridget's RC on Montgomery St. JC and St. Michael High RC near Henderson St. , JC. He was very good looking and had a scholarship to St. Michael's and later through tract to Fordham University. His father ( she thinks was a policeman). He would have been born 1922. He became very successful but died fairly young. His sister Eileen (?) was very active in the Rosary Society. I'm the youngest in my family but remembered a Mulhearn that she said died many years ago. Don't know if this is any help to anyone. Justine (Teena) McCormick

Does anyone have a clue as to how begging on Thanksgiving started? I never heard any of my relatives talking about it. I'm going to have to quiz some of my mother's first cousins. I wonder if it was a particular ethnic tradition? This is all very interesting stuff. Gail Salem, VA