I had a German death in Guttenberg, Hudson County, in 1891. The death certificate read "Lutheran Cemetery." Took me quite a while to find out that it was the Lutheran Cemetery in Middle Village, Queens, NY. Quite a haul by horse and wagon in those days. You might want to check that direction also. The Lutheran Cemetery has changed names since I was researching it, but I believe it might be All Faiths - found the following by searching Google: Lutheran All Faiths Cemetery Middle Village, Queens County, New York 67-29 Metropolitan Avenue Middle Village, NY 11379 (718) 821-1750 Lat: 40° 42' 44"N, Lon: 73° 53' 17"W Incorporated in 1852. Gail Benson Researching in Hudson: Lembert, Dunne, Lawless, Schiesser Richard Van Wagenen <[email protected]> wrote: Does anybody know if there is a German Lutheran Cem in Bayonne ? And if there is one, I would really like the address of the Cem. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.

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Hi Gail, I am in Westfir, Oregon which is about 45 miles south west of Eugene. We live in the Willamette National Forest. My husband works for the Forest Service and gets weather reports often. He says that he doesn't really pay attention to the Portland area weather, but he is sure that it is as bad or worse than what we are getting now, which is intermittent snow/rain and freezing roads with many accidents on highway 58 east. It is suppose to be this way until the weekend and then warm back up again. Soooo, hopefully by the time you have to make your trip, the roads will be clear. Have you ever been to Oregon before? I was born and raised in Iowa and although I miss "home" there is no place like Oregon. I assume you will be coming across the states on interstate 80? I recently joined the Hudson co., mailing list in hopes of helping find my girlfriends' long lost father, but also I have a John B. Smith line that I am researching who was born SOMEWHERE in New Jersey abt. 1810. Talk about finding a needle in a haystack! Hope you have a safe and enjoyable trip to our state. Cheryl

Hi Cheryl, My name is Gail Benson from NJ, but heading to Oregon next week. Just wondering where you were and how bad the weather is. We're heading to Tualatin, just south of Portland [email protected] wrote: In Illinois you will find the parents names listed on marriage records, but I don't know about New Jersey. Seems every state did things differently when it came to things like keeping records. Cheryl in rainy Oregon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]b.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.

I have one from Dec 31 1880 with parents names but no address. Dolores ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Van Wagenen Date: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:39 am Subject: [NJHUDSON] Marriage Cert To: [email protected] > Am wondering if a marriage cert from the 1880's > contains the names of bride and grooms parents ? > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. > Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUDSON- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In Illinois you will find the parents names listed on marriage records, but I don't know about New Jersey. Seems every state did things differently when it came to things like keeping records. Cheryl in rainy Oregon

Would it be the same document from the state and the county? I've obtained birth certificates from Newark and they were the very short version. On Jan 10, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Richard Van Wagenen wrote: > If one wanted to get a copy of a marriage cert from > 1882, what would be the cost ? And would one order it > from Hudson County or from the State ? > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > Yahoo! Music Unlimited > Access over 1 million songs. > http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJHUDSON- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

*I have had excellent results in using a local researcher, Ann Boldt. She regularly combs the NJ Archives in Trenton. Her fees are extremely low and she is fast! * ** *I've gotten NJ marriage certificates, death/birth certificates, and even wills.....I also recommended her to a relative out in California, and she raves about Ann, too.* ** *Send an email to her, at* [email protected] On 1/10/07, John Beekman <[email protected]> wrote: > > Technically from either, though I suspect your best bet is with the state, > depending on where in HC. > > See http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/marriage2.shtml , > http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/writein.shtml > Fee from the state is $25: http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/fees.shtml > > If you want to contact the municipal registrar's office, you'll find the > info here: > http://www.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/dhss/vital/registrars.pl?county=Hudson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Richard Van Wagenen > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:21 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NJHUDSON] Marriage Cert > > > If one wanted to get a copy of a marriage cert from > 1882, what would be the cost ? And would one order it > from Hudson County or from the State ? > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Music Unlimited > Access over 1 million songs. > http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Technically from either, though I suspect your best bet is with the state, depending on where in HC. See http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/marriage2.shtml , http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/writein.shtml Fee from the state is $25: http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/fees.shtml If you want to contact the municipal registrar's office, you'll find the info here: http://www.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/dhss/vital/registrars.pl?county=Hudson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Richard Van Wagenen Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NJHUDSON] Marriage Cert If one wanted to get a copy of a marriage cert from 1882, what would be the cost ? And would one order it from Hudson County or from the State ? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes they do as long the bride and groom knew them. Mike -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Van Wagenen Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NJHUDSON] Marriage Cert Am wondering if a marriage cert from the 1880's contains the names of bride and grooms parents ? ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'd suggest going to www.raogk.com (random acts of genealogical kindness) and see if anyone goes to Trenton and go from there. Ordering it through the state will cost you $25. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Van Wagenen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: [NJHUDSON] Marriage Cert > If one wanted to get a copy of a marriage cert from > 1882, what would be the cost ? And would one order it > from Hudson County or from the State ?

The two that I have from 1884 & 1889 do have the parent's listed Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Van Wagenen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:38 AM Subject: [NJHUDSON] Marriage Cert > Am wondering if a marriage cert from the 1880's > contains the names of bride and grooms parents ?

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Marge, Glad to help. Note, the film number I gave you was for the LDS. I'm sure the NYPL uses a different system. If you haven't been, the main library on 5th Ave (with the lions), is a treasure! The microfilm room is on the first floor. They have LOTS of stuff, not only NY, but NJ and around the world! Maureen On 1/6/07, Marge <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Maureen, > > Thanks for sending the information on films held at the NYC Library, I > never knew that. I will see if perhaps as you said he was not named > until his Baptism. Thanks for all of your help. > > Marge

Hi Maureen, Thanks for sending the information on films held at the NYC Library, I never knew that. I will see if perhaps as you said he was not named until his Baptism. Thanks for all of your help. Marge

Marge, As others have said, 'your' John Cronin doesn't seem to be listed. I can think of two possibilities He was missed in the index or some error was made, ie misspelling. Or, perhaps, another thing ... in NJ, it was common for the birth cert to have the given name blank. Baby was named at the time of baptism. So, he wouldn't be listed under John in the index. The listing would be for a male baby Cronin on that date. Don't know if this was a common occurrence in NYC. I don't know where you are. The NYC Public Libray has copy of these records. If you're not close, but if you have a LDS near you, they have copies of the index records for that period. You could order and check the microfilm yourself to try and find him. Here is info about the microfilm: =========================== Title Births reported in the city of New York, 1881-1965 Authors New York (New York). Department of Health (Main Author) Notes Microfilm of original records in the Municipal Archives, New York, New York. -------------------------------------------------------- An index to births in boroughs of New York City. -------------------------------------------------------- Includes name, date of birth, borough and certificate number. -------------------------------------------------------- Names for 1881-1919, 1943-1945 are arranged by soundex code number. For the same time period: names beginning with I are listed with E; K is with C; V is with W; Y is with J; Z is with S. Names for 1910-1942, 1946-1965 are arranged alphabetically. ============================ Note Location/Film All boroughs, L-Z 1898-1900 All boroughs, A-Z 1901-1903 All boroughs, A-K 1904-1905 (K is listed with C) (Y is listed with J) (Z is listed with S) FHL US/CAN Film 1322459 Hope this helps, Maureen On 1/6/07, Marge <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi List, > > If anyone that is a member of Ancestry, would you do me the favor and > look at the search for 1891-1902 New York City birth > I need the cert.# for JOHN CRONIN b. Feb. 8, 1902 Kings Co. Brooklyn,NY > > Thanking you in advance. > > Marge Spille

Thanks Liz, I appreciate your help. Marge