Boy, you DO have a puzzle on your hands! Is it possible that the two graves are not William and Emma but rather Emma and one of her sons? Could maybe William be buried elsewhere? As for the stone with Howard W on it, it's possible that either a) the stone engraver made a mistake and transposed the names or b) his survivors preferred his stone to have on it the name he was known by...... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Johnson" <delerani@hotmail.com> To: <NJGLOUCE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 2:16 PM Subject: [NJGLOUCE] Opinions Needed! > Hi Everyone - > > I've uncovered yet another mystery surrounding my MINGIN line, please follow > closely and give opinions! > > I went out to Fernwood today to see the graves of my great great parents, > William and Emma Long MINGIN. Such is my luck, no markers. I also spent > about 2 1/2 hours in the courthouse yesterday trying to find property deeds, > no such luck, oddly enough, we know that the property on Cornwell Street was > owned by my great grandparents Clarence and Ruby Bennett MINGIN, because my > father and step mom sold it after Ruby died, no property deed. I had also > uncovered, what I had thought was William's death certificate at the Vital > Statistics offfice in City Hall, now I wonder, first off, Emma survived him, > according to my granfather, yet, no spouse was listed, nor the fact that he > was even married, ok, this was 1931, so, maybe that was why, anyway, to the > real issue at hand........William, had a son William, who went by the name > of Howard (middle name), now, at Fernwood, William Jr.'s stone reads Howard > W., but, on the card, it says William H., not uncommon for a Jr., to use his > middle name, I know, my step dad was Daniel James, his father was a Daniel > and my grandmother called him Jimmy until the day he died. Anyway, on the > same card are William and Emma, here's where it gets interesting........it's > not listed as William.......he's listed as A. M. Mingin! Now, they had two > other sons who's names were Albert and Merrill, so, perhaps his given name > was Albert Merrill Mingin? See my quandry? In my great grandfather > Clarence's obituary, he's listed as William Mingin, his death certificate, > if it's the right one, is listed as William Mingin...I'm assuming it's > correct because my grandfather recalls him passing around late 1920's very > early 1930's, in Bridgeton, that was the only William Mingin who passed in > Bridgeton after 1929 (as far back as the city keeps it's death records). > Now, according to that death certificate, his parents were William Mingin > and Mary SHARP, both born in Bridgeton. So, this is the question I pose to > all of you, how on earth do you get William from A. M.? Could it be that he > was in fact born Albert Merrill Mingin and didn't like the name so he went > by his father's name of William? But, if that's the case, why give that > name to two of your children? I welcome any and all ideas as this has > really thrown me into yet another wall with my MINGIN line! One more thing, > he was also listed as William on all census records that we can find. > As for the grave markers for William and Emma, I plan to take care of that > as soon as I find out the pertinent information, still have no idea of when > Emma died, or if the William I possess a death certificae for is even the > right one! > > Thanks for any input on this > Take care - > Deb > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > >