Barbara, Gloucester County Marriage Records, compiled by H. Stanley Craig, printed in early 1930's. Tomlin, Richard, and Ann Maria Meguire, 12-24-1818 Camden County Marriage Records, compiled by H. Stanley Craig, printed in early 1930's. Sloan, Joseph I - Ella J. McGuire, Bordentown, 6-29-1873 Rice, Joseph - Emma McGuire, 7-10-1871 CD # 240 New Jersey Marriages: 1680-1900 shows the following: Meguire, Ann Maria m. Richard Tomlin on Dec 24, 1818, Gloucester County, NJ Microfilm # 0850324 Meguire, Hue m. Sarah Stevens on Sep 19, 1816, Cumberland County, NJ Microfilm # 1289240 - 1289244 Meguire, James m. Rachel Chester on Sep 8, 1815, Cape May County, NJ Microfilm # 1289231 - 1289232 Meguire, James m. Mary Smith on Feb 17, 1820, Cape May County, NJ Microfilm # 1289231 - 1289232 Meguire, James m. Martha Tomlin on Nov 14, 1822, Cape May County, NJ Microfilm # 1289231 - 1289232 Meguire, Mary m. Isaac B. Hardick on Oct 29, 1853, Sussex County, NJ Microfilm # 1294801 - 1294805 Meguire, Sarah m. David Mulford on Apr 15, 1829, Cumberland County, NJ Microfilm # 1289240 - 1289244 McGuire, Ann m. Richard Blad on Dec 16, 1804, Burlington County, NJ Micofilm # 0848872 - 0848873 McGuire, Ann m. Samuel Cripps on Jun 30, 1818, Salem County, NJ Microfilm # 0848572 McGuire, Celia m. Jesse Frost on Aug 20, 1841, Monmouth County, NJ Microfilm # 0802943 McGuire, Eleanor m. Patrick Farley on Nov 19, 1831, Bergen County, NJ Microfilm # 6046021 McGuire, Ella J. m. Joseph Sloan on Jun 29, 1873, Camden County, NJ Microfilm # 6050242 McGuire, Emma m. Joseph Rice on Jul 10, 1871, Camden County, NJ Micofilm # 6050242 McGuire, Jane m. Isaiah Wood on Feb 11, 1817, Salem County, NJ Micofilm # 0848572 McGuire, John m. Eliza Glancey on Jul 4, 1826, Somerset County, NJ Micofilm # 1023875 McGuire, Lewis m. Margaret Miller on Nov 13, 1838, Monmouth County, NJ Micofilm # 0802943 McGuire, Mary m. David Buckhard on Oct 29, 1749, Burlington County, NJ Micofilm # 0848872 - 0848873 McGuire, Mary m. Patrick Donlin on Nov 25, 1855, Salem County, NJ Microfilm # 0848572 McGuire, Rebecca m. John Harding on Jun 5, 1822, Salem County, NJ Microfilm # 0848572 McGuire, Susannah m. James Renear on Oct 17, 1778, Burlington County, NJ Microfilm # 0848872 - 0848873 At 07:52 AM 6/12/99 -0400, you wrote: >Dear Carol: I am looking for marriages or any info on a family named >MEGUIRE. I know that they lived in Gloucester, Cumberland, Cape May, and >maybe Salem counties. Please look in your book and share all the marriages >that are there. I think they were there circa 1790 through 1900. Thanks. >Barbara Kerr, Houston, Texas >

Linda asked: >What towns are near Porchtown? I lived in South Jersey, but don't recall >that town. It is northwest of Vineland, southwest of Glassboro between route 40 and 47, near Newfield and Malaga. The Walker farm is on Rt.. 40 just north of Porchtown. Lynn

Hi, I'm looking for information on my great-grandmother, Mary Elizabeth Farnsworth (b. 7/23/1868, Thorofare, NJ; d.2/25/1965, Porchtown, NJ). She married Frank (Franklin Henry) Walker (b. 9/25/1861, Paulsberg [Paulsboro?], NJ; d.1948, Porchtown, NJ) They owned a farm near Porchtown, NJ (along Route 40) They had three children: Clara Osborne (my grandmother) (b. 8/18/1888, Porchtown, NJ; m. Henry Adam Wolfbrandt; d. 8/23/1963, Linwood, NJ). Franklin Henry, Jr. (b. ?, Porchtown, NJ; m. Henrietta Cattell; d. ?) Howard Everett (b.4/1899, Porchtown, NJ; m. Ethel Elizabeth Turner; d.1/1973, Porchtown, NJ) Do any of these people sound familiar to anyone? TIA Lynn Dennis Researching my NJ roots: Walker, Farnsworth, Osborne, Wolfbrandt, Finger, Davis

Folks, please send Lynn a copy of your replies, and post to the group too, since this name is such a hot item at the moment! Thanks, Vince Now for Copy and Paste: the marriage license was made out for Ann Hugg (John Heritage and Ann Hugg were granted a marriage license in Burlington County on 22 August 1741). When he was in England, according to several sources, Richard lived at Sutton-Under-Brailes (which is South of -- or under -- the towns of Upper Brailes and Lower Brailes), Warwickshire. Maybe he called his new place after part of his old one? After all, the British term "garden" is what we call our yard, the property around our house...so, maybe this was his Sutton-new-yard? And he wouldn't have kept the "Under-Brailes" part because it wasn't south of a town named Brailes...) Just speculation, of course! Vince (for Lynn [email protected])

Hi, Vince, While I do not subscribe to the [email protected] list, a listmember knew of my descent from Richard Heritage and thought I might be interested in your posting of 99-06-10 22:57:25 EDT. I was! In your posting, you said: << Second, it seems likely to me that Richard was not the son of Joseph, but of John. It was John who was the father of Joseph, according to this article. What are your comments on this? >> Here are my comments, if you are interested: Richard Heritage of Sutton-Under-Brailes, Warwickshire, England, who secured in 1684 a grant from "Edward Byllynge of London, Gentman" for 100 acres of land within the Province of West New Jersey (Gloucester Book of Deeds, No. 2, page 60) had the following children by wife Mary Timms (although not perhaps in this order), according to several different sources: Mary (b. 28 Apr 1666 ?) m. William Clark John (b. 7 Mar 1669, d. 1716 ?) m. Sarah Slocum Joseph (b. 22 Apr 1675, d. 13 Nov 1756 ?) m. Hannah Allen Sarah By the way, according to a deed dated 8 mo 9, 1689 in which he bought a second 100 acres of land, Richard Heritage was of Sutton-New-Garden (rather than "Hatten New Garden" as the Prowell text calls it.) John Heritage, who administered the estate of his father Richard Heritage when Richard died without a will in 1702, himself died in 1716 at about 43 years of age, leaving two daughters: Mary who married Hasker Newberry, and Naomi who moved to Blanden County, North Carolina. Joseph Heritage administered the estate of his brother John, rendering an account on 4-9-1718. Joseph and his wife Hannah Allen were married 26 Jan 1697 and had the following children (info per the Heritage Family Index compiled by John O. Heritage, found at the Gloucester County Historical Society and other sources, not verified by me): Mary, b. 1698?, d 1775 Richard, b. 1700?, d 10 Jan 1768 Joseph, b. 1704?, d 1752? John, b. 1710?, d. 30 Nov 1761 Hannah, b. 1712?, d. 19 Aug 1759 Benjamin, b. 9 Apr 1715, d. 5 Sept 1763 Elizabeth, b. 12 Aug 1716, d. 1723 Martha, b. 23 Feb 1721 Ephraim, b. 30 Apr 1726, d 1731 I don't think that the article is saying that Joseph was the son of John...Perhaps the author intended it to read that when Richard Heritage died without a will, most of his land passed to his heir-at-law, John, but that Richard had before his death conveyed considerable land to his son Joseph? In actuality, Richard Heritage _had_ conveyed for natural affection the Sutton-New-Garden homestead to his son John BEFORE his death, and had also (on 10-6-1696) conveyed 237 acres adjoining the homestead to his son Joseph. One more note: John Heritage, the son of Joseph and grandson of Richard, married ANN Hugg, not Sarah Hugg as Prowell has it. (License dated 22 August 1741, per the book "Documents of Colonial History of the State of New Jersey", Marriage License, page 208). I am descended from John Heritage and his wife Ann Hugg, through their son John and his wife Susannah Marple. John Heritage Jr and Susannah had four children (that I know of): Joseph, Ann, Priscilla and Samuel. My line comes through daughter Ann, who married Samuel Redfield. I would be glad to correspond with any Heritage researchers. I am especially interested in proving the truth (or untruth) of the family story which claims that the younger John Heritage (husband of Susannah and father of Ann) was a prisoner on board the old "Jersey" prison ship during the American Revolution. It was printed as a footnote in the "Genealogical History of the Redfield Family in the United States" by John Howard Redfield, published in 1860. The story was obviously believed by members of the family at that time, but I have been unable to find any documentation of it. Thanks for your time and attention in reading this long email! Sincerely, Lynn Marshall [email protected]

I am trying to locate information on either of the above surnames. My grandmother was Elizabeth (Lillie) O'brien. She was the daughter of Thomas F. O'brien and Elizabeth (Unknown maiden name). They are all buried in Sacred Heart Cemetery in Vineland, NJ. Elizabeth married John Bernard Monaghan. They lived in and around Vineland for most of their lives. They also lived in Philadelphia PA. John and Elizabeth had five children: James (b. 1912), Gertrude (b. 1915), Mary (b. 1919), Ruth (my mother) (b. 4/22/1922), and Winfred (b. 1925). All birthdates except Ruth's are approximate. They all went to Sacred Heart Catholic school in Vineland. According to the records of the church, James, Ruth, and Winifred all received their First Communion at Sacred Heart. I found Eliz G., James H., and Mary Monaghan in the 1937-38 Vineland City Directory all iving at 633 Grape. James was a glass wkr; Mary was an engraver working for Ace Glass Inc. I never met my grandfather, John Monaghan. Elizabeth died on Feb 14, 1979. Gertrude married John Molino, Winifred married John Donna or Danna. Mary may have married Joseph Reed, Joe Briggs, and Harry Burron. James married a person by the name of Grace (last name unknown) John Monaghan probably went to prison around 1930 for child abuse. I don't know when he got out, but I believe he was out by the time I was 1 yr old (1948). My mother indicated to me that she saw him at that time when she went to visit her mother after I was born. I believe that he may have gone to a state prison. Thomas F. O'brien probably died in 1921. He had lived in Vineland for 12 years and had been living at the Soldiers Home the year before. Thomas and Elizabeth had the following children: Frank J., Elizabeth (my grandmother), Regina, Sarah, and Mary. I found this family unit in the 1900 Philadelphia, PA census. Have not been able to find them anywhere else as a family. According to this census, Frank, Mary, Sarah & Regina were all born in Pennsylvania. Lillie was born in New Jersey. According to her death certificate, she was born in Gloucster, NJ. (My mother, Ruth, was born in Glassboro, Gloucester, NJ also.) If anyone has any information, please let me know. I have never been able to find the Monaghan family in a census record. I have looked in 1910 and 1920. I have looked in both Gloucester and Cumberland Counties since that is where they most likely were during these years. However, nothing is there. I have checked the census indexes, just in case they were somewhere else. Still no luck. (They may have been in another state). Thanks for any help anyone might have that has a history of these surnames in that area. [email protected]

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Hello Listers, PLEASE be careful with any downloads or attachments. My husband's Email acct. got infected with an AOL virus (Trojan Horse) late last night and his address was used to Email pornographic messages to 1500 sites!!! Ugh!! AOLsecurity helped us to regain our site, but whoever did this stole his password to get his address and info. The 1500 addresses receiving the porno message probably got the virus when they opened the message. Please 'delete' if you don't know who the sender is, or change your password periodically. Been there and don't want to go again! Joan in NJ

Marilyn, I looked up the NORRICE Family Name and found nothing in the Gloucester County Marriage Book by H. Stanley Craig. I looked up the NORRIS Family Name and found the following: Norris, Joseph R., and Sarah M'Ilvain, 3-31-1836 Cattell, D. Cooper, and Amanda Norris 1-10-1861 Coombs, Saml. M., and Anna R. Norris, 9-20-1859 Sinnickson, Andrew, and Elizabeth Norris, 12-17-1795 Shoemaker, Eugene, and Emma L. Norris, 3-17-1877 Sorry, I didn't find a Thomas Norris that married a Rebecca. Carol Holt Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:57:23 -0500 From: Marilyn Kittock <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NJGLOUCE-L] Heritage Marriages To: Carol Holt <[email protected]> Carol, Would that book happen to have a Thomas Norrice/Norris marriage to a Rebecca. I've been searching for any record of Thomas Norris at all.

Vince, yes d of Juda does mean daughter of Juda and s of Richard does mean son of Richard. I looked up the Allin Family Name under Records of Haddonfield Friends' Meeting and found the following: Allin, Juda, and Deborah Addams (d John and Elizabeth), both of Burlington County, 10-15-1701. Hope this helps you out. I try to spell it just like in the book when I post something. Except I do usually spell the county name out in full as everyone doesn't know all the counties. Carol Holt Middle Tennessee Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:41:45 -0400 From: Vincent Edward Summers <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NJGLOUCE-L] Heritage Marriages To: Carol Holt <[email protected]> Carol: I think you have posted a hot one here! This is the going name at present, it seems! I have a name or two here I am going to benefit from, myself. does (d Juda) mean daughter of Juda? Vince

Here is my little contribution to the HERITAGE input for tonight. I never thought to look up that name. You will enjoy this from p. 724 of George Reeser rowell's History of Camden County NJ 1886... Richard Heritage was one of the proprietors of the town of Gloucester when it was laid out, in 1686. He owned lots in the original town, and was one of the signers of the memorandum made by the proprietors as to the division of lots. He was the first who bore the name in West Jersey, and came from Warwickshire, England. He purchased rights of Edward Byllinge and his trustees in 1684, and made a location of land on the north side of Pensaukin Creek, in Burlington County, and called the place "Hatten New Garden." He purchased other rights and located other lands in this township. He died in 1702, without a will, and most of his land passed to his heir-at-law, his eldest son, John. In 1705 he sold to William Matlack one thousand acres of land in Waterford township. John married Sarah Slocum in 1706. To his son Joseph he conveyed considerable land. Much of this land he sold. It lay on both sides of the creek and now embraces several valuable farms. Samuel Burrough purchased a art of this tract in 1698. Joseph Heritage died in 1756, leaving six children.--Richard, who married Sarah Whitall and Sarah Tindall; Joseph, who married Ruth Haines; Benjamin, who married Keziah matlack; John, who married Sarah Hugg; mary, who married John Gill and John Thorne; and Hannah, who married Mr. Rogers. It was from Joseph Heritage and his children that many of the early settlers purchased land, and, although the family apears to have been a large one, yet the name is now unknown among the residents of the township, although some remain within the present limits of Waterford township and still hold a small portion of the land. A couple of notes here, folks... First, the two paragraphs above are from the chapter entitled "THE TOWNSHSIP OF DELAWARE." Second, it seems likely to me that Richard was not the son of Joseph, but of John. It was John who was the father of Joseph, according to this article. What are your comments on this? Vince

Barb In MA, Just saw your message about Heritage and your planned visit to the GCHS in the fall. If I remember correctly I copied my information from 3 hardbound Heritage volumes. I will try to get back to this tomorrow night or Sat. to give you more information from what I have. Have a 12 hr shift to work with sick children tomorrow so am off to bed. Don't have a scanner yet or would just scan everything for you, I have lots! More later than. Pamela

I am sending this material that I have gathered in hopes that it may help one of you. >From the Atlantic, CO. Historical-Headley Collection John Giberson b 1784 m Sylvia?b 1790 They lived in Woolrich Township, gloucester Co, NJ. he was a farmer. Children: Mahlon b 1827 Mary Ann b 1832 ? Elizabeth b 1828 (Franklin Twp NJ) ?Caroline b 1834 (Deptford Twp NJ) .............................................................................. ........................................... 1830 Federal Census Index, NJ Giberson, Aaron Salem Co. Mannington Twp Giberson, Enoch Monmouth Co Upper Freehold Giberson, Enos Gloucester Co Deptford Twp Giberson, Gilbert Monmouth Co Upper Freehold Giberson, Israel Cumberland Co Down Twp Giberson, Job Gloucester Co Franklin Twp Giberson, John Monmouth Co Dover Twp Giberson, John Gloucester Co Woolwich Twp Giberson, John J. Monmouth Co Dover Twp Giberson, John Jr Gloucester Co, Gloucester Twp Giberson, Joseph Monmouth Co Howell twp Giberson, Joseph Jr. Monmouth Co Howell Giberson, Reuben Monmouth Co Dover Twp Giberson, William Monmouth Co Dover Twp Giberson William Monmouth Co Freehold Twp Giberson, William Capt Monmouth Dover Twp Gibrinson, Christian Middlesex Co East Windsor Twp Gibrinson, Joseph Middlesex Co East Windsow Twp Gibrinson, Orpha Middlesex Co East Windsor Twp .............................................................................. ............................................ I have also been in touch with the following: DOUBLE TROUBLE STATE PARK PO Box 175 Bayville, NJ 08721 732-341-6662 They told me that a Capt. William T. Giberson is recorded as having purchased the village (the land where this park now stands...it was called Double Trouble Village)...which is located in the Pine Barrens region of southern NJ. he is reported to have bought this land along Cedar Creek in 1835. In all he purchased seven different Cedar Creek lots which he conveyed to his sons; William Taylor Giberson and George Washington Giberson in 1851. This information was obtained from deed records in Monmouth (pre 1850 era) and Ocean (post 1850 era)Counties Capt. George W. Giberson who survived his brother...birth is recorded as June 12, 1811. In this letter I was given two different source in Ocean County NJ to check, BISHOP BUILDING c/o Ocean Count Library Washing Street Toms River NJ 98753 732-349-6200 ext. 59 or 33 Ocean County Historical Society 25 Hadley Ave Toms River NJ 08753 732-341-1880 I was told that the above Ocean Co. Historical Society has 2 3 inch thick binder just on records and info on the Giberson family. I have not looked into this as of yet. Hopefully this information will help with someones GIBERSON research. If you are interested in further information please contact me and I'll try to help. Susan Winters born and raised in S. Jersey...now in S Florida

In a message dated 6/10/99 12:22:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I have 2 Richard Heritages in my data base, they may be the same person. Can some one help me straighten this out. The first Richard had a son Joseph that married Hannah Allen they had a son Richard that married Sarah Tindall. The second Richard had a daughter Mary that married William Clark they had a daughter Mary that married Nathaniel Chew. They are the same Richard Heritage (I believe) according to the Chester Friends Records Richard Heritage who had a dgt Mary that married Wm. Clark also had a son Joseph who married Hannah Allen. Joseph d. 1756. Barb in MA PS I would like to hear from Pam about the info she obtained from GCHS. I hope to get back there in the fall, if I knew what she got it from ie: Heritage folder, etc. I could copy it while I am there. I had not heard before that Richard came from England. I obtained what info I have from a cousin who is a Clark and we are both descended from Wm. Clark who m. Mary Heritage.

I am not researching the Heritage Family, but thought this might help someone else out there. < I am told there are (were) a lot of HERITAGE families in Gloucester Co.> I have a copy of early Gloucester County Marriages. >From New Jersey Archives, Vol. XXII Heritage, John, of Burlington County, and Ann Hugg, 8-22-1741. Heritage, John, and Mary Cattell, 12-20-1760. Heritage, John, and Suisannah Marple, 12-7-1768. Heritage, John, Jr., and Ruth Hains, of Burlington County, 10-14-1746. Heritage William, and Sarah Denyce, 8-13-1771. >From County Clerk's Records Heritage, Arthur, of Camden County, and Henrietta Hurff, 6-14-1855. Heritage, Bartholomew, and Anna Andrews, 12-18-1872. Heritage, Benjamin P., and Margaret A. Redfield, both of Camden County, 8-14-1845. Heritage, Cholkley, and Sarah Osgwood, 11-9-1843. Heritage, Charles, and Elizabeth Ann Ashcraft, 12-29-1831. Heritage, Charles S., and Hattie S. Heritage, 6-25-1874. Heritage, Elijah, and Sarah Earley, 11-14-1812. Heritage, Elisha, and Elma Ann Souders, 9-4-1845. Heritage, Elphery, and Jane D. Denny, both of Philadelphia, 2-5-1846. Heritage, Ephraim, and Priscilla Clark, 2-12-1801. Heritage, George W. and Anna R. Long, 4-5-1870. Heritage, Helms V., and Matilda Mcllvaine, 12-10-1829. Heritage, Helms V., and Mary Ann Sparks, 1-14-1841. Heritage, Joel, and Sarah Penn, 11-30-1826. Heritage, John Down, M. D., and Lizzie F. Shivers, 5-26-1869. Heritage, John R., and Sarah Ann Swope, 10-30-1831. Heritage, Joseph, and Hannah Conklin, 12-24-1826. Heritage, Joseph, and Henrietta Eldridge, 2-4-1830. Heritage, Joseph O., and Lizzie A. Crane, 8-4-1870. Heritage, Mark, and Elizabeth Carter, 11-30-1826. Heritage, Samuel, and Rachel Perkins, 12-29-1808. Heritage, Samuel H., of Camden County, and Lydia Rambo, 3-30-1846. Heritage, Samuel, and Elizabeth Herritage (late Claypole, 1-10-1805). Chew, Elisha, and Elizabeth Heritage, 12-29-1808. Dilkes, William L., and Ann S. Heritage, 12-20-1827. Fisler, Benjamin S. and Lou C. Heritage, 12-24-1874. Gurling, William, and Mary Heritage, 12-7-1811. Hider, Samuel, and Hope Heritage, 12-27-1838. Justice, Nicholas J., and Drucilla M. Heritage, 10-7-1873. McIlvaine, William, and Kesiah Heritage, 4-3-1826. Swope, Jacob, and Martha Heritage, 12-15-1831. Tallman, Joseph S., and Elizabeth Heritage, 2-16-1840. Records of Haddonfield Friends' Meeting* Heritage, Benjamin (s Joseph), of Burlington County,and Kezia Matlack (d John), 2-28-1743. Heritage, John, and Sarah Slocum, late of Shrewsbury, 4-19-1706. Heritage, Joseph (s Richard), and Hanna Allin (d Juda), of Shrewsbury, 11-26-1697. Clarke, William, and Mary Heritage (d Richard), 09-13-1787. Porch, Joseph B. (s James A.), and Mary N. Heritage (d Helm), 1-26-1865. Preston, Joseph S., and Naomi C. Heritage, 11-18-1835. Wilkins, James M., and Rachel P. Heritage, 7-23-1872. * As Haddonfield was in Gloucester County before Camden County was organized, we include this data, taken from a copy of the original, in these records. [Note Camden County was formed in 1844 from Gloucester County.] SOURCE FOR ALL OF ABOVE - Gloucester County New Jersey Marriage Records, Compiled by H. Stanley Craig - 1930 H. Stanley Craig, Publisher, Merchantville, N. J. This is not the only county that has Heritage Marriages in it though. There is also Camden, Salem, and Cumberland. Carol Holt Born in New Jersey Live in Middle Tennessee

Dear listers: Seems like there are quite a few of you out there with HERITAGE roots! Yipee! >From the looks of the messages, maybe a few of you will make connections (esp with Richard) Thanks to all who responded to my query about Firman HERITAGE. I am at a disadvantage not knowing who his parents were (yet), but I will stay with the list in hopes I can pick up some clues from you all in the meantime. HERITAGE doesn't seem to be a common name, wouldn't it be great if someone with the computer savvy would make a HERITAGE rootsweb list? I am willing to bet we would all find connections somehow! I read an old query (9/98) by Hermon B. Fagley, that described how so many Gloucester Co. families made their way to Ohio (Clermont Co.)(revolutionary war soldiers were granted land in SW Ohio by Contential Congress). Since I know my Firman HERITAGE's parents were both born in New Jersey,and the name HERITAGE is so prominent in Gloucester Co., and so many Gloucester families came to the area of Ohio where I find my Firman, I have a strong feeling my Firman HERITAGES parents were from Gloucester Co. If you go to the LDS site (www.familysearch.org), click on custom search, click on surname search and type in HERITAGE, this is what you get: Robert Dawson family , Leake, Donald Eugene, 1919- Heritage family Bible records, 1809-1861 Heritage Bible record [1734-1816] Heritage family Bible records, 1778-1859 Family records of Pond, Smock, Wiley, Heritage and related families , Pond, May Wiley, 1907- William Herritage of eastern North Carolina and his descendants , Coleman, Stella Virginia Herritage The Cattell family in America : the descendants of Jonas Cattell and Mary Pearce of Burlington County, New Jersey, and twenty-five other Cattell immigrations traced in both male and female lines , Rogers, Donald H. (Donald Heys), 1912- Heritage family records The Heritage family , Simpson, Mrs. Walter A. (Walter Aborn) Heritage family , Ries, Ruth Heritage Gloucester County in the eighteen-fifties : being a diary of John Cawman Eastlack , Eastlack, John Cawman, 1808-1888 You then can scan the titles and go to your LDS FHC and order the films or fiche. I just found this, so haven't looked at any of these myself. Has anyone else? One other thought (another long shot): Is anyone aware of the FIRMAN surname in NJ? Any connection to the HERITAGE surname by marriage? Got to thinking my Firman HERITAGE could have been named for his mother's maiden name, or either grandmother's maiden name..... Debbie Peppones Researching Heritage, Matthews, Lewis, Davis, Evans

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Every day they lit the fire and added things to the >> >>pot. >> >>> They mostly ate vegetables and didn't get much meat. They >> >>> would eat the stew for dinner leaving leftovers in the pot to get >> >>> cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes the >> >>> stew had food in it that had been in there for a month. Hence >> >>> the rhyme: peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge >> >>> in the pot nine days old." >> >>> >> >>> $<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~ >> >>> >> >>> Sometimes they could obtain pork and would feel really special >> >>> when that happened. When company came over, they would >> >>> bring out some bacon and hang it to show it off. It was a sign of >> >>> wealth and that a man "could really bring home the bacon." >> >>> They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit >> >>> around and "chew the fat." >> >>> >> >>> <~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~ >> >>> >> >>> Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with a high >> >>> acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food. This >> >>> happened most often with tomatoes, so they stopped eating >> >>> tomatoes... for 400 years. >> >>> >> >>> <~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~ >> >>> >> >>> Most people didn't have pewter plates, but had trenchers - >> >>> a piece of wood with the middle scooped out like a bowl. >> >>> Trenchers were never washed and a lot of times worms got into >> >>> the wood. After eating off wormy trenchers, they would get >> >>> "trench mouth." >> >>> >> >>> $<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~ >> >>> >> >>> Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt >> >>> bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the >> >>> top, or the "upper crust". >> >>> >> >>> <~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~ >> >>> >> >>> Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination >> >>> would sometimes knock them out for a couple of days. Someone >> >>> walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare >> >>> them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a >> >>> couple of days and the family would gather around >> >>> and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence >> >>> the custom of holding a "wake". >> >>> >> >>> <~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~**~>$<~**~ >> >>> >> >>> England is old and small, and they started running out of places >> >>> to bury people. So, they would dig up coffins and would take >> >>> their bones to a house and re-use the grave. In reopening these >> >>> coffins, one out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks >> >>> on the inside and they realized they had been burying people >> >>> alive. So they thought they would tie a string on their wrist and >> >> >> >>> lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to >> >>a >> >>> bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night >> >>> to listen for the bell. Hence on the "graveyard shift" they would >> >> >> >>> know that someone was "saved by the bell" or he was a "dead >> >>> ringer". >> >> >

I have 2 Richard Heritages in my data base, they may be the same person. Can some one help me straighten this out. The first Richard had a son Joseph that married Hannah Allen they had a son Richard that married Sarah Tindall. The second Richard had a daughter Mary that married William Clark they had a daughter Mary that married Nathaniel Chew. >From the last few messages I have seen about the Heritage family I think both my Richards are one and the same person. I hope some one can shed some light on this matter for me. Thanks William G. Ayres Ayars Family Association [email protected]

Hi I have a Grandfather William Heritage Marple B: 22 January 1856, the family story is the Marples were neighbors of the Heritage's. I guess they were close friends. So Heritage became his middle name. I understand there was a large Heritage Farm. Alice Researching Caldwell, Marple, Price and Sullivan

I've been reading this list for several months but have never written in until now. Seems that there are several of us that have Heritage ancestors. I am a direct descendant of Richard Heritage who came to Gloucester Co., NJ in 1684 from Warwickshire, England. I am sure this is the same Richard as Barb in MA mentioned as he had 3 children - Mary, John, and Joseph. My line is descended from Joseph. I have quite a bit of information on the family, most of which I gathered from the Gloucester Co Historical Society Library about 4 yrs ago. I would love to hear from other Heritage descendants and share information. I can be contacted directly at: [email protected] I am also researching : ARMBRUSTER, STOKES, BONSACK, SHUSTER, ZANES, BUTTERWORTH, THOMPSON, & CLARK. Pamela