I am interested in Samuel Davis who made a will in Gloucester County mentioning his daughter Mary Osler. I am away from home and do not have the copy of the will with me but if it looks like the same family please get in touch with me. Judy Newman Box 352 Garrett Park Md 20896-0352 [email protected] On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Mille H H Emmitt wrote: > > I am researching following families in Camden /Gloucester Area, time > period l750-l8l5. > > Davis, Deel, Giberson, Homan, Shane > > Any help will be appreciated. > > Mille > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. >

Patti, Thanks for the info. Where was North Farms located, as listed for Abraham Scudder and Johanna Cranes marriage in 1798? Anyone out there know of this place? Joan in NJ

Mille wrote: >I am researching following families in Camden /Gloucester Area, time >period l750-l8l5. >Davis, Deel, Giberson, Homan, Shane Mille, My gg-grandmother was Charity G. Davis (b. 1833; m. Charles P. Walker; d. 1895). Her parents were Samuel Davis and Patience (maiden name unknown). Charity and Charles were in Gloucester Co. in 1861 when my g-grandfather was born in Paulsboro, but I don't know if they were local or moved to Gloucester Co. from elsewhere. Samuel and Patience probably fall within your timeframe. Do any of these people sound familiar? Lynn

I am researching following families in Camden /Gloucester Area, time period l750-l8l5. Davis, Deel, Giberson, Homan, Shane Any help will be appreciated. Mille ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

I see you are researching "Reeves" I have a Mary Reeves who wed David Homan, Sep 14, l786, in The Third Presbyterian Church in Philadelphia (Marr. l810, Vol 11, l785-l799) They had several children which I can give you if you think this is your line. David was my gg grandfather who came from Gloucester to Clermont County, Ohio in l814. Mary had no doubt died by then & he remarried but some of his & Mary's children came with him to Ohio. Mille On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:21:56 EDT [email protected] writes: >Have Jane Ann HERITAGE, b. 1836 in NJ, married to William C. Silver(s) >b 1833 >in Port Elizabeth, NJ. Have no other info on Jane Ann. Suspect she >died in >childbirth, as William C remarried. Does this match any Heritage info >out >there? > >Ethel (Etch) in Illinois Searching in NJ: Silvers, Ammel, Reeves, >Barnes, >Robinson, Sise, Finley, Herrick, Stevens, Norbury, NeffHuston, Shires, > >Shropshire, Gorton, Gandy > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Have Jane Ann HERITAGE, b. 1836 in NJ, married to William C. Silver(s) b 1833 in Port Elizabeth, NJ. Have no other info on Jane Ann. Suspect she died in childbirth, as William C remarried. Does this match any Heritage info out there? Ethel (Etch) in Illinois Searching in NJ: Silvers, Ammel, Reeves, Barnes, Robinson, Sise, Finley, Herrick, Stevens, Norbury, NeffHuston, Shires, Shropshire, Gorton, Gandy

Barbara Thank you. That sounds like a match Alice in NC -----Original Message----- From: Barbara McCormick <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, June 13, 1999 10:12 PM Subject: [NJGLOUCE-L] Ralph Porch >Alice and Susan.... > I have a Ralph Porch marrying Maria A. Crane on 20 Dec 1834 in >Swedesboro, Gloucester County, NJ > Hope this helps. > >Barbara > > >

Hi Susan Don't worry about posting it to the web. With luck there could be another back porch or front porch out there. ha ha Anyway my Hester Porch would have been born about 1835. She would fit into the age group of Ralph and Maria. I would love whatever you could share. My e-mail server has had a lot of problems this weekend but they are fixing it and should have everything okay by midnight. Thank You Alice in NC . -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, June 13, 1999 10:06 PM Subject: [NJGLOUCE-L] for Alice looking for Hester Porch >Hi Alice, > >I found a Hester Porch from the South Jersey family...but no marriage info >etc on. > >I have her parents as Ralph Porch J 1797-1851 m to Maria A ??. I also have >siblings but no dates....also family info on ralph Sr if you are interested. > >Does this time frame fit with you Hester Porch? > >Sorry to post to the list but your mail keeps bouncing! > >Susan > >

Alice and Susan.... I have a Ralph Porch marrying Maria A. Crane on 20 Dec 1834 in Swedesboro, Gloucester County, NJ Hope this helps. Barbara

Hi Alice, I found a Hester Porch from the South Jersey family...but no marriage info etc on. I have her parents as Ralph Porch J 1797-1851 m to Maria A ??. I also have siblings but no dates....also family info on ralph Sr if you are interested. Does this time frame fit with you Hester Porch? Sorry to post to the list but your mail keeps bouncing! Susan

ANDERSONVILLE PRISONER DATABASE LINK HAS CHANGED. If you have a relative that you know was a prisoner at Camp Sumter, Andersonville Prison, Georgia during the Civil War or think so, you can type their name in on this site and check it out. I found my Great Great Great Grand Uncle Alfred Breyer on this site. My relative, Alfred Breyer, was christened in London, England in 1830, married in Camden, New Jersey in 1850, and died in this prison in 1864. He only lived thirty-four years, a short life. The Macon County, Georgia, Chamber of Commerce has the National Park Service Database for Andersonville on its site. Just type in a name and see what you find. <http://oglethorpe.corinthian.net/mccc/aville.html> CORRECTED LINK PRISONER DATABASE IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE. You can search by either Name or by Unit. Sometimes it takes awhile to get through. Just keep trying though. Then you might be interested in Kevin Frye's excellent web page on the Internet. <http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html> Kevin's email address is [email protected] I ordered the three photo set (one overall cemetery shot, one gravestone shot, and one closeup gravestone shot) from Kevin for my relative and was very pleased with the results. This is the Andersonville National Cemetery in Georgia. Carol Holt Middle Tennessee

>HI > >I have been watching these two pages for quite awhile now and enjoy >everyone on these mailing list. I also belong to > [email protected] I want all of you to take a look at the table of >contents. I also volunteer for this site along with a multitude of other >volunteers. I had no idea that I could contribute just by typing and then >e-mailing my finished work to Joyce the keeper of our web page as I am NOT >computer literate and don't understand why computers work anyway. However; >I see some of you put information out that probably could assigned to our >web pages permanently. It just has to be out of copyright. Other things >you may have in your collection like old newspaper obituaries, wills etc. >Maybe the keepers of Camden and Gloucester would be willing to do this. I >don't know as I don't know how involved it is and everyone only has so much >time in a day anyway, so maybe there is a volunteer out there that knows all >this and could help out our webpage keepers. Just a thought. > >Check out the Delaware County web page, go into the table of contents. You >will not believe what the volunteers have done. It is awesome. > >Researching: CALDWELL, MARPLE, SULLIVAN, PORCH AND PRICE > >ALICE >NC > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: jim gaw <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 11:47 PM >Subject: Re: [NJCAMDEN-L] PROWELL on HERITAGE! Richard and Joseph! > > >>You are talking about two different Heritage's. Your discription >indicates >>that this Heritage family was in Burlington County. >>Jim, Lurking in Tucson, AZ. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Vincent Edward Summers <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 19:57 >>Subject: [NJCAMDEN-L] PROWELL on HERITAGE! Richard and Joseph! >> >> >>>Here is my little contribution to the HERITAGE input for tonight. I >>>never thought to look up that name. You will enjoy this from p. 724 >>>of George Reeser rowell's History of Camden County NJ 1886... >>> >>> Richard Heritage was one of the proprietors of the town of Gloucester >>>when it was laid out, in 1686. He owned lots in the original town, and >>>was one of the signers of the memorandum made by the proprietors as to >>>the division of lots. He was the first who bore the name in West >>>Jersey, and came from Warwickshire, England. He purchased rights of >>>Edward Byllinge and his trustees in 1684, and made a location of land on >>>the north side of Pensaukin Creek, in Burlington County, and called the >>>place "Hatten New Garden." He purchased other rights and located other >>>lands in this township. He died in 1702, without a will, and most of >>>his land passed to his heir-at-law, his eldest son, John. In 1705 he >>>sold to William Matlack one thousand acres of land in Waterford >>>township. John married Sarah Slocum in 1706. To his son Joseph he >>>conveyed considerable land. Much of this land he sold. It lay on both >>>sides of the creek and now embraces several valuable farms. Samuel >>>Burrough purchased a art of this tract in 1698. Joseph Heritage died >>>in 1756, leaving six children.--Richard, who married Sarah Whitall and >>>Sarah Tindall; Joseph, who married Ruth Haines; Benjamin, who married >>>Keziah matlack; John, who married Sarah Hugg; mary, who married John >>>Gill and John Thorne; and Hannah, who married Mr. Rogers. >>> It was from Joseph Heritage and his children that many of the early >>>settlers purchased land, and, although the family apears to have been >>>a large one, yet the name is now unknown among the residents of the >>>township, although some remain within the present limits of Waterford >>>township and still hold a small portion of the land. >>> >>> >>> >>>A couple of notes here, folks... First, the two paragraphs above are >>>from the chapter entitled "THE TOWNSHSIP OF DELAWARE." >>> >>>Second, it seems likely to me that Richard was not the son of Joseph, >>>but of John. It was John who was the father of Joseph, according to >>>this article. What are your comments on this? >>> >>>Vince >>> >> >> >

HI Am I right to think that Porchtown was named after the Porch family. Alice NC

Hi again Now that I sent you all the Delaware County e-mail address. SEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I told you all I don't know much!! Now you really know!!!!!! http://www.rootsweb.com/~nydelawa/ Alice Nc

HI I have been watching these two pages for quite awhile now and enjoy everyone on these mailing list. I also belong to [email protected] I want all of you to take a look at the table of contents. I also volunteer for this site along with a multitude of other volunteers. I had no idea that I could contribute just by typing and then e-mailing my finished work to Joyce the keeper of our web page as I am NOT computer literate and don't understand why computers work anyway. However; I see some of you put information out that probably could assigned to our web pages permanently. It just has to be out of copyright. Other things you may have in your collection like old newspaper obituaries, wills etc. Maybe the keepers of Camden and Gloucester would be willing to do this. I don't know as I don't know how involved it is and everyone only has so much time in a day anyway, so maybe there is a volunteer out there that knows all this and could help out our webpage keepers. Just a thought. Check out the Delaware County web page, go into the table of contents. You will not believe what the volunteers have done. It is awesome. Researching: CALDWELL, MARPLE, SULLIVAN, PORCH AND PRICE ALICE NC -----Original Message----- From: jim gaw <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [NJCAMDEN-L] PROWELL on HERITAGE! Richard and Joseph! >You are talking about two different Heritage's. Your discription indicates >that this Heritage family was in Burlington County. >Jim, Lurking in Tucson, AZ. >-----Original Message----- >From: Vincent Edward Summers <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 19:57 >Subject: [NJCAMDEN-L] PROWELL on HERITAGE! Richard and Joseph! > > >>Here is my little contribution to the HERITAGE input for tonight. I >>never thought to look up that name. You will enjoy this from p. 724 >>of George Reeser rowell's History of Camden County NJ 1886... >> >> Richard Heritage was one of the proprietors of the town of Gloucester >>when it was laid out, in 1686. He owned lots in the original town, and >>was one of the signers of the memorandum made by the proprietors as to >>the division of lots. He was the first who bore the name in West >>Jersey, and came from Warwickshire, England. He purchased rights of >>Edward Byllinge and his trustees in 1684, and made a location of land on >>the north side of Pensaukin Creek, in Burlington County, and called the >>place "Hatten New Garden." He purchased other rights and located other >>lands in this township. He died in 1702, without a will, and most of >>his land passed to his heir-at-law, his eldest son, John. In 1705 he >>sold to William Matlack one thousand acres of land in Waterford >>township. John married Sarah Slocum in 1706. To his son Joseph he >>conveyed considerable land. Much of this land he sold. It lay on both >>sides of the creek and now embraces several valuable farms. Samuel >>Burrough purchased a art of this tract in 1698. Joseph Heritage died >>in 1756, leaving six children.--Richard, who married Sarah Whitall and >>Sarah Tindall; Joseph, who married Ruth Haines; Benjamin, who married >>Keziah matlack; John, who married Sarah Hugg; mary, who married John >>Gill and John Thorne; and Hannah, who married Mr. Rogers. >> It was from Joseph Heritage and his children that many of the early >>settlers purchased land, and, although the family apears to have been >>a large one, yet the name is now unknown among the residents of the >>township, although some remain within the present limits of Waterford >>township and still hold a small portion of the land. >> >> >> >>A couple of notes here, folks... First, the two paragraphs above are >>from the chapter entitled "THE TOWNSHSIP OF DELAWARE." >> >>Second, it seems likely to me that Richard was not the son of Joseph, >>but of John. It was John who was the father of Joseph, according to >>this article. What are your comments on this? >> >>Vince >> > >

I'm submitting some updated info on my ggrandfather in the hopes it will lead to more info about his parents names. I've recently spoken to a 90 yr. old relative who remembered some family middle names. He thinks all of the middle names of these Scudders were from relatives. Do these sound familiar to anyone out there? My Frank Scudder, b abt. 1855-60 was really named Francis Asbury Scudder (there was a Bishop Francis Asbury who brought Methodism to the Bridgeton area in late 1700s). The Scudders lived in Fairton, NJ, south of Bridgeton, but not sure where his parents started out. He married Augusta Stevens Eichele,b 1860, who spoke German. Their children were Anna Budd Scudder b.abt 1881,m. Rufus Davis of Bridgeton area; Lillian Stevens Scudder,b.1883.m.Charles French Lacy; and William Corson Scudder,b.1885 m.Clara Glass. They later lived in Camden, NJ and owned a cigar store. Supposedly, the Budd family had a lumber or millwork business that was aligned with some of the Scudders. Does this sound like a connection to anyone out there? Would love to hear from you. Joan in NJ

Susan, No, I haven't found any connection to the KAYE family from my BARNABY family. There aren't many BARNABY family members listed in anything I have found so far. I add to my library concerning New Jersey since I am researching from afar (Tennessee). Have you visited the Mormon Site on-line? Not everyone is aware of this site, but it is being publicized on Television on the morning news programs. <http://www.familysearch.org/> I went there and just typed the name FIRST NAME Alfred LAST NAME Kaye It brought up a bunch and then I looked through the results. No. 68 is Alfred Kaye Gloucester, NJ This is just some of what I found: Alfred KAYE Anna May (Newcomer) b. 22 Jul 1886 b. Cir. 1890 Deptford Township Gloucester, NJ d. 21 Jan 1940 m. 18 Jun 1910 Alfred's parents were: William Henry KAYE Fanny (Edmondson) b. 13 Dec 1854 b. 7 Jan 1859 Philadelphia, Eastby, Yorkshire, Philadelphia, PA or England possible DE d. 17 Feb 1927 d. 4 May 1931 Woodbury, Gloucester, NJ m. 30 Sep 1876 East Marton, Near Skipton, Yorkshire, England Alfred's Grandparents were: William Worthington KAYE Sarah OATES b. 2 Apr 1822 b. 11 Dec 1820 Mold Green, Near Huddersfield, Leeds, Yorkshire, Yorkshire, England England d. 3 Jun 1864 d. 13 Aug 1893 Battle of Cold Harbor, VA m. 24 Nov 1844 Parish Church of Leeds, York, England Alfred's sister, Sarah Gertrude Kaye is also listed. Sarah Gertrude KAYE b. 17 Aug 1894 Woodbury, Gloucester, NJ d. 19 Dec 1942 Westville, Gloucester, NJ buried: 23 Dec 1942 Green Cemetery, Woodbury, Gloucester, NJ m. Robert Henry Selfridge b. 30 Dec 1913 Woodbury, Gloucester, NJ When you get into the results of your search, click carefully on the different buttons such as FAMILY, PEDIGREE, etc. Print out as you go. Looks like there is quite a bit of information there. It shows a submitter as someone in Riverton, Utah. Does not list any parents for Ethel May Barnaby. I was hoping for some information there on this line. Hope this helps you out and shows you a direction to go. Carol Holt Middle Tennessee At 08:57 AM 6/13/99 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks, Carol! > >I have to wonder, though, where everybody's records are? I suppose it's >possible they got married in Philly, even though they lived in NJ >(especially if the wife came from "that" side of the river, huh??) ... >will have to check over there! > >By the way, I believe we've corresponded in the past (a year or more >ago, I'm sure) about the BARNABY family in NJ ... if this a name you're >researching, have you turned up any connections yet to the KAYE family? >We have a Richard KAYE (b. 1880 in Philly) who married Ethel May BARNABY >(b. abt. 1886) about 1902; they had at least one daughter, Anita, and >were living with Richard's parents in Woodbury, NJ, at the time of the >1910 census. > >Thanks again for the look-up ... if I can return the favor in some way, >please let me know! > >Suzan Kaye >Mountain Home, AR >

Earl, I'm trying to find my ggrandfather, William French Lacy, called French Lacy, b. abt.1855-60, M. Sarah Mood abt. 1880. They lived in Camden, NJ for many years. He was an engineer for the PRR(Penna-Reading Railroad). Sarah's family was from Elk and Pole Tavern, south of Mullica Hill, NJ. There were Lacy's in Woodstown area and Alloway Creek, and Upper Pittsgrove. It appears that they might have been related many years ago but during the 1800s it seems they had similar forenames but not linked. I'm not certain where my Wm. Lacy was born or names of his parents, Possibly John Lacy. I have names of all William and Sarah's descendant's, as I am one of them. Do you have other Lacy names? Let me know, we might have a connection. Joan Lacy Fitzsimmons in NJ PS. My Lacy ancestors always said that their Lacy ancestors were Scotch-Irish (Scots displaced to County Ulster in NO. Ireland by Cromwell? Sorry, I don't have the facts at my fingertips right now!)

If you have a relative that you know was a prisoner at Camp Sumter, Andersonville Prison, Georgia during the Civil War or think so, you can type their name in on this site and check it out. I found my Great Great Great Grand Uncle Alfred Breyer on this site. My relative, Alfred Breyer, was christened in London, England in 1830, married in Camden, New Jersey in 1850, and died in this prison in 1864. He only lived thirty-four years, a short life. The Macon County, Georgia, Chamber of Commerce has the National Park Service Database for Andersonville on its site. Just type in a name and see what you find. <http://www.corinthian.net/MCCC/plookup.htm> Sometimes it takes awhile to get through. Just keep trying though. Then you might be interested in Kevin Frye's excellent web page on the Internet. <http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html> Kevin's email address is [email protected] I ordered the three photo set (one overall cemetery shot, one gravestone shot, and one closeup gravestone shot) from Kevin for my relative and was very pleased with the results. This is the Andersonville National Cemetery in Georgia. Carol Holt Middle Tennessee

Hi all, I wonder if anyone has come across the Sise family or the Niepling family. The Sises were Catholics originally and moved to the Egg Harbor area in the 1820-30 range. My proven line begins with John there. His son Elva (Ellvey) was a Methodist minister. He became one late in life-about 40. Elva's daughter Mary Anne married into the Niepling family. They were glassmakers of Prussian descent according to family stories. Mary Ann's husband , Louis, was born in Camden/Gloucester County in 1836. Eventually Louis and Mary Ann followed the glass industry to NY. I've been trying this long distance (SW PA!) for several years. Not much progress as of yet! Thanks, Kim