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    1. [NJGLOUCE] Re: birth certificates from Trenton
    2. >>if I CAN write for a copy of the actual birth record that would include >>parent's names, would I request the record of "male child Silvers" or "Edward >>Silvers"? My father, myself and my son were all born in NJ. Our birth certificates are all alike. All they give is name, date of birth and place of birth. The state must keep more information, because the form I filled out at the time of my son's birth listed my maiden name and my husband's name plus other stuff I can't remember.

    09/18/1999 03:19:36
    1. [NJGLOUCE] birth certificates from Trenton
    2. Maybe somene can answer this from experience. I have a document from the State of New Jersey Department of Health, Bureau of Vital Statistics which states "This is to Certify that the following is correctly copied from a record of Birth in my office" and lists my grandfathers name, sex, place of birth and date of birth. It has no other information, i.e., parents names, etc. This is dated 5 May 1947 and was procured, I believe, so he could get social security benefits. My question is this: Is this all the information you get from the state of New Jersey when you request copy of a birth record? I would like to send for his complete birth record, including parents names, but I don't want to send money and only get what I have right now. Additionally, under "name of child" it has *Edward Silvers* and beneath that ------- Silvers. Stamped in a blank space above the signatures it says *Information preceded and followed by* supplied upon correction form filed on June 10, 1947 under authority conferred by law. Am I correct in that the original record probably just reads something like "male child Silvers" and he provided his own name later? I am confused as to how this stamped addition got onto a form prepared May 5, 1947, unless the state typed up the form and added the first name and stamped it later, but before sending it to my grandfather. Also, if I CAN write for a copy of the actual birth record that would include parent's names, would I request the record of "male child Silvers" or "Edward Silvers"? Appreciate any help you can give with this. Anyone else have any Silvers (Silver) on their trees? Many thanks Ethel

    09/17/1999 06:26:48
    1. Re: [NJGLOUCE] Any Descendants of William H. Monroe
    2. I have a few MONROE in Gloucester county. Joseph MONROE d Nov.1823 Gloucester Township, Gloucester County. his children were : George, William, Joseph, Kessiah, Mary, Ann, Sarah, Susanna, Prudence, Abigail. Perhaps one of these sons was the father of your William H. Monroe.

    09/12/1999 02:49:49
    1. [NJGLOUCE] Any Descendants of William H. Monroe
    2. I would like to contact any descendants of William H. Monroe b. Feb. 20, 1839 in Blackwood Town, NJ. By the time he was 21, he was living in Keosauqua, Ia. with a Mr. Fetter. Ina from Calif.

    09/12/1999 09:46:11
    1. [NJGLOUCE] CAMP, ELLIS, BATTEN who married into KILLE family circa 1850-1900
    2. Would like to contact any descendants of the above surnames connected to KILLE by marriage, probably mid-to late 1800's. MARY ELIZABETH KILLE married JAMES CAMP HANNAH A. KILLE married CHARLES H. ELLIS (a note states that Charles H. Ellis, Jr., was mayor of Camden in early 1900's.) MARTHA FRENCH KILLE married JAMES BATTEN (who died 1910) [email protected] Hudson, OH

    09/12/1999 09:40:02
    1. Re: [NJGLOUCE] HARKER/SHERWOOD
    2. I WOULD LIKE TO GET RECORDS OF UNION VOLUNTEER IN THIS AREA. MY GRANDFATHER LEVI J. HARKER JOINED FROM THERE IN THE CIVIL WAR AND I WOULD LIKE ANY ARTICLES OR LISTING OF THE SOLDIERS IN THE AREA. ALSO , THERE WERE PICUTRES OF REUNION OF THE SOLDIERS IN THAT AREA. DO YOU KNOW HOW I COULD GET PICTURES OF THESE. JAN

    09/11/1999 05:06:37
    1. [NJGLOUCE] CRANE
    2. Hi, I've been looking at your Crane genealogy site on Rootsweb and wondering if there is a link to Rev. Moses Crane and his descendants in Gloucester County, NJ? Thanks, Joan in NJ

    09/11/1999 10:45:12
    1. [NJGLOUCE] Attorneys in Gloucester Co./1800's
    2. Is there a listing anywhere for attorneys practicing in Gloucester Co. from about 1795-1825? Where would they have gone to school? Any suggestions? I think my ancestor Joseph STOW was an attorney during this time period. Thanks. Marilyn

    09/09/1999 08:45:12
    1. [NJGLOUCE] Samuel C Davis & Charles Henry Fletcher
    2. Michael Fletcher
    3. Hello; I'm new to this list but could really use some help on a couple items. 1) I'm looking for the parents of Mary Ann Oliphant Davis who married Abram Prickett in Gloucester County. They lived in Vincentown in Burlington County. I've seen references that the father was Samuel C Davis and Ann Prickett, but nothing to support this as all records I can find of Samuel C Davis shows he was either a bachelor or died before Mary Ann was born in 1817. 2) I'm looking for the father of Charles Madison Fletcher born 11 Feb 1868. His death and SS application say Vincentown...but no records in Trenton at state archives. Both death and SS Application say Fathers names was Charles Henry Fletcher, mother was Lydia L Prickett, daughter of Abram and Mary (above) Prickett. I doubt she married Charles Henry Fletcher....wonder if Charles Madison was born in Philly...but havent checked....any clues where I can look? Abram and Mary are buried in the ME Cemetery in Vincentown. Does anyone know if only church members could be buried in cemetery? Are there records of children or grandchildren at the church possibly? Thank You Michael Fletcher

    09/08/1999 10:25:41
    1. Re: [NJGLOUCE] Genealogy Show on Saturday in Woodbury, NJ
    2. Susan Kaye
    3. Dear Carol, and other Gloucester County Researchers: Just a quick note to mention that a character was left out of the URL for the Gloucester County Historical Society: > http://www.rootsweb.com/njglouce/gchs should be http://www.rootsweb.com/~njglouce/gchs The missing character was the "~ (or tilde)" before "njglouce," which on my keyboard is at the extreme upper left, under the "Esc" key. Once you get onto the GCHS page, scroll down to the bottom and click on "Special Events." Suzan Kaye Mountain Home, AR Researching KAYE, EDWARDS, & DARE in Gloucester County

    09/08/1999 07:35:51
    1. Re: [NJGLOUCE] Genealogy Show on Saturday in Woodbury, NJ
    2. Gary Steiner
    3. Unfortunately, that URL is wrong. They left out the tilde! http://www.rootsweb.com/~njglouce/gchs/ >Saw on Eastman Genealogy Letter the following: > >The Gloucester County Historical Society of Woodbury, NJ is sponsoring >A Heritage Quest Genealogy Road Show on Saturday, September 11, 1999. > >For more information, look at: > ><http://www.rootsweb.com/njglouce/gchs> > >Carol Holt >Middle Tennessee

    09/08/1999 07:21:13
    1. [NJGLOUCE] Genealogy Show on Saturday in Woodbury, NJ
    2. Carol Holt
    3. Saw on Eastman Genealogy Letter the following: The Gloucester County Historical Society of Woodbury, NJ is sponsoring A Heritage Quest Genealogy Road Show on Saturday, September 11, 1999. For more information, look at: <http://www.rootsweb.com/njglouce/gchs> Carol Holt Middle Tennessee

    09/08/1999 06:19:56
    1. [NJGLOUCE] Atlantic County, New Jersey Marriage Database
    2. Carol Holt
    3. This will be available for about ten days FREE on Ancestry. Atlantic County, New Jersey Marriage Records, 1837-1880 Home to Atlantic City in southern New Jersey, Atlantic County was formed from neighboring Gloucester County in 1837. This database is a collection of county marriage records between 1837 and 1880. Each entry provides the names of both bride and groom and the marriage date. It contains the names of nearly 5,700 individuals. Originally published in the nineteenth century, The records were compiled by Stanley Craig from documents kept by the county clerk. For researchers of New Jersey ancestors, this can be a helpful source of information. Bibliography: Craig, Stanley H. "Atlantic County, New Jersey Marriage Records." Merchantville, NJ. H. Stanley Craig. To search this database, go to: <http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3970.htm> Carol Holt Middle Tennessee

    09/08/1999 06:01:14
    1. Re: [NJGLOUCE] OLD PICTURES--WHAT TO DO
    2. I also photocopied some old black & white photos - the copies did not come out that badly and I shared them with my sister. She then made copies and sent them to our aunt and she was able to identify the one I was most interested in. It seems like my great grandmother's sister looks remarkably like my eldest daughter. Many people have asked my daughter where she went to have a picture taken in a period costume. Kit

    09/07/1999 05:01:27
    1. Re: [NJGLOUCE] OLD PICTURES--WHAT TO DO
    2. Malcolm Sharp
    3. Since posting my query this morning I've rec'd a number of suggestions on how to preserve photos. A useful link sent is to "Photo Generations - home to PhotoGen, the original email discussion list that caters to the family photography historian and enealogist (http://www.city-gallery.com/photogen/). It has been suggested that old photos should never be photocopied since the UV light will accelerate deterioration. Instead a photographic copy should first be made and then either duplicate via the negative or photocopy the copy of the original print. -- Malcolm Schalick Sharp http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~msharp http://www-rcf.usc.edu/~sharp BaggyGenes wrote: > > Good idea, Dave -- here's another one. I have a number of old photographs and several small painting of 19th C. relatives. I made color xeroxes of them (some of the smaller ones, I even had blown up) and sent > them out to other relatives, asking for ID -- got an amazing number of them identifed, plus the recipients had, if not the greatest picture in the world, at least something they could tuck in the family album. > > Judy > > "David C. Allegretti" wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > What I did with the old pictures of my family that I had no idea who they were...(They were in a DEEMS family album, from MD to NYC c1834). > > > > With a 35mm camera, tripod, & close up lens...I made pictures of the pictures. > > > > This gives you a negative with which I made copies and sent to relatives of that family. Those pictures I sent out went all over the US and some of the other family members were able to Identify some of them.. > > > > Don't forget that some of those pictures were used as "business cards" so-to-speak. When a person came-a callin' they would hand you a small picture of themselves as if to say remember I was here. > > > > Best of luck. > > > > Dave > > > > By the way...I'm searching GENTRY & HECTOR families from Salem. Gloucester, & Cumberland Co's., NJ

    09/07/1999 03:47:42
    1. Re: [NJGLOUCE] OLD PICTURES--WHAT TO DO
    2. That's a good idea. I think that I will scan mine in case someone comes along that might recognize them. I did have a situation where I found a far distant relative who could identify the people on a photograph from Norway in the 1850s which had been handed down in my mother's family from her Norwegian grandfather. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [NJGLOUCE] OLD PICTURES--WHAT TO DO Author: <[email protected] > at internet Date: 9/7/99 10:42 AM Hello all, What I did with the old pictures of my family that I had no idea who they were...(They were in a DEEMS family album, from MD to NYC c1834). With a 35mm camera, tripod, & close up lens...I made pictures of the pictures. This gives you a negative with which I made copies and sent to relatives of that family. Those pictures I sent out went all over the US and some of the other family members were able to Identify some of them.. Don't forget that some of those pictures were used as "business cards" so-to-speak. When a person came-a callin' they would hand you a small picture of themselves as if to say remember I was here. Best of luck. Dave By the way...I'm searching GENTRY & HECTOR families from Salem. Gloucester, & Cumberland Co's., NJ

    09/07/1999 12:50:22
    1. Re: [NJGLOUCE] OLD PICTURES--WHAT TO DO
    2. BaggyGenes
    3. Good idea, Dave -- here's another one. I have a number of old photographs and several small painting of 19th C. relatives. I made color xeroxes of them (some of the smaller ones, I even had blown up) and sent them out to other relatives, asking for ID -- got an amazing number of them identifed, plus the recipients had, if not the greatest picture in the world, at least something they could tuck in the family album. Judy "David C. Allegretti" wrote: > Hello all, > > What I did with the old pictures of my family that I had no idea who they were...(They were in a DEEMS family album, from MD to NYC c1834). > > With a 35mm camera, tripod, & close up lens...I made pictures of the pictures. > > This gives you a negative with which I made copies and sent to relatives of that family. Those pictures I sent out went all over the US and some of the other family members were able to Identify some of them.. > > Don't forget that some of those pictures were used as "business cards" so-to-speak. When a person came-a callin' they would hand you a small picture of themselves as if to say remember I was here. > > Best of luck. > > Dave > > By the way...I'm searching GENTRY & HECTOR families from Salem. Gloucester, & Cumberland Co's., NJ

    09/07/1999 12:31:51
    1. Re[2]: [NJGLOUCE] 19th century photographs
    2. There really is no way unless you know someone in your family who might know. I have over 100 photos from the 19th century and early 20th century and I have no idea who they are except that one of my uncles thought that they may have belonged to one certain family. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [NJGLOUCE] 19th century photographs Author: <[email protected] > at internet Date: 9/7/99 10:19 AM I would also like to know of any possible alternatives to being able to identify people in those old 19th century pictures. Wes Hayman

    09/07/1999 12:24:01
    1. [NJGLOUCE] OLD PICTURES--WHAT TO DO
    2. David C. Allegretti
    3. Hello all, What I did with the old pictures of my family that I had no idea who they were...(They were in a DEEMS family album, from MD to NYC c1834). With a 35mm camera, tripod, & close up lens...I made pictures of the pictures. This gives you a negative with which I made copies and sent to relatives of that family. Those pictures I sent out went all over the US and some of the other family members were able to Identify some of them.. Don't forget that some of those pictures were used as "business cards" so-to-speak. When a person came-a callin' they would hand you a small picture of themselves as if to say remember I was here. Best of luck. Dave By the way...I'm searching GENTRY & HECTOR families from Salem. Gloucester, & Cumberland Co's., NJ

    09/07/1999 11:49:32
    1. Re: [NJGLOUCE] 19th century photographs
    2. Malcolm Sharp
    3. I posted this to the list since I colleague had the good fortune of finding someone in another area of the country who came upon records from a 19th century photographer [found them in a garage sale!]. Malcolm [email protected] wrote: > > There really is no way unless you know someone in your family who > might know. > > I have over 100 photos from the 19th century and early 20th century > and I have no idea who they are except that one of my uncles thought > that they may have belonged to one certain family. > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Re: [NJGLOUCE] 19th century photographs > Author: <[email protected] > at internet > Date: 9/7/99 10:19 AM > > I would also like to know of any possible alternatives to being able to > identify people in those old 19th century pictures. > > Wes Hayman >

    09/07/1999 11:33:23