There are several archives of baptist records - you can see them if you do a google search. The one I have dealt with, as I recall, is the American Baptist Historical Society. I was looking for information about my great grandfather circa the late 1800s and early 1900s so don't know what they might have from the early days. Since some of my Newark/E-town ancestors were founders of several early bapitst churches, I guess I need to ask them if they do have materials from the early years. They may be able to give suggestions as to where information can be found. But I think their archives may be similar to those of the Presbyterian Church Historical Society in Philadelphia - they have what is sent to them. I would also suggest contacting the church in questions even though it is now a Catholic church as someone there might know where the records were sent. And did you try the NJ Historical Society or the library at Rutgers University - both of which have quantities of early records. Even the Newark Library has a good NJ room. Any contact may turn up some leads. Joan Bretz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat 1030" <pat1030@hotmail.com> To: <lhfodor@aim.com>; <NJESSEX@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] Baptist Church - Archives? > That's unfortunate. I don't think I can call or write to them because the > church is apparently now a Catholic Church. Therefore, I would think the > records would have been archived somewhere, but I don't know what "kind" > of > Baptist church this was. > > "S T. JOSEPH'S ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, Lafayette and Prospect streets. > Constructed in 1858, St. Joseph's was, until 1928, the Fifth Baptist > Church, > now defunct." > > Pat > > >>From: lhfodor@aim.com >>To: pat1030@hotmail.com, NJESSEX@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] Baptist Church - Archives? >>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:12:22 -0500 >> >>From what I understand in trying to locate records from another Baptist >>church, there are no archives and i was told that the Baptists did not >>keep >>reliable records. You can see if the church still exists by going to >>www.oldnewark.com. If they do exist you can either call or write to them. >>I had no luck in writing and getting any answer from my church in >>question. >> >>Lynn >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: pat1030@hotmail.com >>To: NJESSEX@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 4:40 PM >>Subject: [NJESSEX] Baptist Church - Archives? >> >> >>My great great grandparents in Newark in 1858. The marriage certificate >>states that they were married by a D.T. Morrill and the location was 51 >>Congress Street. According to the 1861 city directory, there is a listing >>for Morrill, David T. (Rev.), Pastor 5th Baptist Church, h. 51 Congress >>Street. Under the listing for churches, it says he is the pastor of the >>4th >>Baptist Church at South Prospect c. Lafayette. >> >>The certificate seems to be saying they were married at the pastor's >>house, >>but even so, would there have been a church ledger or record filed other >>than the marriage certificate I have? Where are the Baptist church >>records >>archived? >> >>I am trying to determine the denomination so as to possibly find other >>family members. The family was Scottish so I had assumed they were >>Presbyterian. >> >>Any assistance is much appreciated. >> >>Regards, >>Pat >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Visit MSN Holiday Challenge for your chance to win up to $50,000 in >>Holiday >>cash from MSN today! >>http://www.msnholidaychallenge.com/index.aspx?ocid=tagline&locale=en-us >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com >>with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >>of >>the message >>________________________________________________________________________ >>Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading >>spam and email virus protection. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more..then map the best > route! > http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Joan. I did try the American Baptist Historical Society and they could not help me. I also contacted the church twice since it is still in existence and never heard from them. Lynn -----Original Message----- From: jbretz1@earthlink.net To: njessex@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] Baptist Church - Archives? There are several archives of baptist records - you can see them if you do a google search. The one I have dealt with, as I recall, is the American Baptist Historical Society. I was looking for information about my great grandfather circa the late 1800s and early 1900s so don't know what they might have from the early days. Since some of my Newark/E-town ancestors were founders of several early bapitst churches, I guess I need to ask them if they do have materials from the early years. They may be able to give suggestions as to where information can be found. But I think their archives may be similar to those of the Presbyterian Church Historical Society in Philadelphia - they have what is sent to them. I would also suggest contacting the church in questions even though it is now a Catholic church as someone there might know where the records were sent. And did you try the NJ Historical Society or the library at Rutgers University - both of which have quantities of early records. Even the Newark Library has a good NJ room. Any contact may turn up some leads. Joan Bretz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat 1030" <pat1030@hotmail.com> To: <lhfodor@aim.com>; <NJESSEX@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] Baptist Church - Archives? > That's unfortunate. I don't think I can call or write to them because the > church is apparently now a Catholic Church. Therefore, I would think the > records would have been archived somewhere, but I don't know what "kind" > of > Baptist church this was. > > "S T. JOSEPH'S ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, Lafayette and Prospect streets. > Constructed in 1858, St. Joseph's was, until 1928, the Fifth Baptist > Church, > now defunct." > > Pat > > >>From: lhfodor@aim.com >>To: pat1030@hotmail.com, NJESSEX@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] Baptist Church - Archives? >>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:12:22 -0500 >> >>From what I understand in trying to locate records from another Baptist >>church, there are no archives and i was told that the Baptists did not >>keep >>reliable records. You can see if the church still exists by going to >>www.oldnewark.com. If they do exist you can either call or write to them. >>I had no luck in writing and getting any answer from my church in >>question. >> >>Lynn >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: pat1030@hotmail.com >>To: NJESSEX@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 4:40 PM >>Subject: [NJESSEX] Baptist Church - Archives? >> >> >>My great great grandparents in Newark in 1858. The marriage certificate >>states that they were married by a D.T. Morrill and the location was 51 >>Congress Street. According to the 1861 city directory, there is a listing >>for Morrill, David T. (Rev.), Pastor 5th Baptist Church, h. 51 Congress >>Street. Under the listing for churches, it says he is the pastor of the >>4th >>Baptist Church at South Prospect c. Lafayette. >> >>The certificate seems to be saying they were married at the pastor's >>house, >>but even so, would there have been a church ledger or record filed other >>than the marriage certificate I have? Where are the Baptist church >>records >>archived? >> >>I am trying to determine the denomination so as to possibly find other >>family members. The family was Scottish so I had assumed they were >>Presbyterian. >> >>Any assistance is much appreciated. >> >>Regards, >>Pat >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Visit MSN Holiday Challenge for your chance to win up to $50,000 in >>Holiday >>cash from MSN today! >>http://www.msnholidaychallenge.com/index.aspx?ocid=tagline&locale=en-us >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com >>with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >>of >>the message >>________________________________________________________________________ >>Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading >>spam and email virus protection. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more..then map the best > route! > http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.

Thank you for your replay Joan. I will try to contact the American Baptist Historical Society - I think that is the most likely. I guess it can't hurt to contact the Catholic Church - you're right they may know. Also, NJ Historical Society or the library at Rutgers University - both great ideas. Thanks! >From: "Joan Bretz" <jbretz1@earthlink.net> >Reply-To: njessex@rootsweb.com >To: <njessex@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] Baptist Church - Archives? >Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:24:26 -0500 > >There are several archives of baptist records - you can see them if you do >a >google search. The one I have dealt with, as I recall, is the American >Baptist Historical Society. I was looking for information about my great >grandfather circa the late 1800s and early 1900s so don't know what they >might have from the early days. Since some of my Newark/E-town ancestors >were founders of several early bapitst churches, I guess I need to ask them >if they do have materials from the early years. They may be able to give >suggestions as to where information can be found. But I think their >archives may be similar to those of the Presbyterian Church Historical >Society in Philadelphia - they have what is sent to them. I would also >suggest contacting the church in questions even though it is now a Catholic >church as someone there might know where the records were sent. And did >you >try the NJ Historical Society or the library at Rutgers University - both >of >which have quantities of early records. Even the Newark Library has a good >NJ room. Any contact may turn up some leads. > >Joan Bretz > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Pat 1030" <pat1030@hotmail.com> >To: <lhfodor@aim.com>; <NJESSEX@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:25 AM >Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] Baptist Church - Archives? > > > > That's unfortunate. I don't think I can call or write to them because >the > > church is apparently now a Catholic Church. Therefore, I would think >the > > records would have been archived somewhere, but I don't know what "kind" > > of > > Baptist church this was. > > > > "S T. JOSEPH'S ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, Lafayette and Prospect streets. > > Constructed in 1858, St. Joseph's was, until 1928, the Fifth Baptist > > Church, > > now defunct." > > > > Pat > > > > > >>From: lhfodor@aim.com > >>To: pat1030@hotmail.com, NJESSEX@rootsweb.com > >>Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] Baptist Church - Archives? > >>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:12:22 -0500 > >> > >>From what I understand in trying to locate records from another Baptist > >>church, there are no archives and i was told that the Baptists did not > >>keep > >>reliable records. You can see if the church still exists by going to > >>www.oldnewark.com. If they do exist you can either call or write to >them. > >>I had no luck in writing and getting any answer from my church in > >>question. > >> > >>Lynn > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: pat1030@hotmail.com > >>To: NJESSEX@rootsweb.com > >>Sent: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 4:40 PM > >>Subject: [NJESSEX] Baptist Church - Archives? > >> > >> > >>My great great grandparents in Newark in 1858. The marriage certificate > >>states that they were married by a D.T. Morrill and the location was 51 > >>Congress Street. According to the 1861 city directory, there is a >listing > >>for Morrill, David T. (Rev.), Pastor 5th Baptist Church, h. 51 Congress > >>Street. Under the listing for churches, it says he is the pastor of the > >>4th > >>Baptist Church at South Prospect c. Lafayette. > >> > >>The certificate seems to be saying they were married at the pastor's > >>house, > >>but even so, would there have been a church ledger or record filed other > >>than the marriage certificate I have? Where are the Baptist church > >>records > >>archived? > >> > >>I am trying to determine the denomination so as to possibly find other > >>family members. The family was Scottish so I had assumed they were > >>Presbyterian. > >> > >>Any assistance is much appreciated. > >> > >>Regards, > >>Pat > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Visit MSN Holiday Challenge for your chance to win up to $50,000 in > >>Holiday > >>cash from MSN today! > >>http://www.msnholidaychallenge.com/index.aspx?ocid=tagline&locale=en-us > >> > >> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com > >>with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >body > >>of > >>the message > >>________________________________________________________________________ > >>Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and >industry-leading > >>spam and email virus protection. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more..then map the best > > route! > > http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01 > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NJESSEX-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Play Flexicon: the crossword game that feeds your brain. 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try this Baptist org. they are BAPTIST they are not Adventist and the there headquarts were in Piscataway until about 15 years ago they may be able to help Part of Piscataway is know as Quibbletown .they have Quibbletown school . The name came out of 2 Baptist families that Quibble over wither they have church on Saturday or Sunday.there were a lot of S D B in the state and still are some here. Seventh Day Baptist Historical Society 3120 Kennedy Road, Box 1678 Janesville, WI 53547 (608) 752-5055 sdbhist@inwave.com http://www.seventhdaybaptist.org/7DB/A_Choosing_People_EN.asp?SnID=2037631651 http://newporthistorical.org/sites_sdbmh.htm Richard Brandstetter brandstetter.photo@att.net www.weddings-nj.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat 1030" <pat1030@hotmail.com> To: <jbretz1@earthlink.net>; <njessex@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [NJESSEX] Baptist Church - Archives? > Thank you for your replay Joan. I will try to contact the American > Baptist > Historical Society - I think that is the most likely. I guess it can't > hurt > to contact the Catholic Church - you're right they may know. Also, NJ > Historical Society or the library at Rutgers University - both great > ideas. > Thanks!