To David Kane-- nice to talk to talk to you last night by phone. As a follow-up, below are some references that I thought I'd share with you and others. Regarding Audrey Shield Hancock's inquiry of 6/01/07, I also have found more on the families of Henry F. Woodruff (born ca. 1815 in OH) and his father Ephraim Woodruff (born ca. 1793 in NJ), both Butler County (OH) residents-- and will send this out in a few days. http://ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=3567 surprises me because it shows MANY Woodruffs in Butler County and other nearby Ohio counties in the first decade of the 19th century. Also I have easily found how I am mostly likely related to both Karen at claytree@earthlink.net via our Woodruff & Ogden ancestors and to the husband of Lucie at hondolu@hotmail.com. More on this later also. .......John (in metro Chicago) -------------------------------------------- http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First Database: Library of Congress Online Catalog ____________________________________ Woodruff, Ceylon Newton, 1893-1983 Main Title: Woodruff chronicles; a genealogy: the Long Island-New Jersey family of John Woodruffe, the immigrant ancestor to America. Published/Created: Glendale, Calif., A. H. Clark Co., 1967 [vol. 1], 1971 [vol. 2] Related Names: Herod, Maurine R. Description: 2 v. illus., geneal. table, ports. 25 cm. Notes: Vol. 2 compiled by C. N. Woodruff and M. R. Herod. Includes bibliographical references. "Selected source materials": v.1, p. [311]-340. Dewey Class No.: 929.2/0973 Table of contents http://www.loc.gov/catdir/toc/fy0605/67019471.html CALL NUMBER: CS71.W887 1967 ......[Am I wrong here? Apparently NO online version seems to be available-- even though Linda Epstein's 2002 summary of this (4440-entries) is quite good and also provides much post-1971 research (at http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=elizawoodruffs), including much added info from my family's Magie database-- mostly gathered in the 1950s. Ceylon Woodruff's book seems to be the best available genealogy of NJ WOODRUFFs, though I now realize that much needed info on many pre-1820 Woodruff emigrants to the Cincinnati area (etc.) seems to be missing-- JQM.] ____________________________________ Wheeler, William Ogden, 1837-1900. Main Title: Inscriptions on tombstones and monuments in the burying grounds of the First Presbyterian church and St. Johns church at Elizabeth, New Jersey. 1664-1892. Published/Created: [New Haven, Conn., Press of Tuttle, Morehouse & Taylor, 1892] Related Names: Halsey, Edmund Drake, 1840-1896. Description: 355, [1] p. front., plates, fold. plans. 24 cm. Copyrighted by Wm. Ogden Wheeler and Edmund D. Halsey. Subjects: Epitaphs--New Jersey--Elizabeth. CALL NUMBER: F144.E4 W5 ......[Much of this is ONLINE at http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?dbid=11392. Ancestry's version seems to me very difficult to navigate around in, but the excellent original book is far superior to the following--> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/0_nj-index.htm (a somewhat silly, in my opinion, retyping of portions of the original 1892 book, with the all-important cemetery map mysteriously excluded-- JQM.] ____________________________________ Wheeler, William Ogden, 1837-1900. Main Title: The Ogden family in America, Elizabethtown branch, and their English ancestry; John Ogden, the Pilgrim, and his descendants, 1640-1906, biography & genealogy; comp. by William Ogden Wheeler; ed. by Lawrence Van Alstyne and Rev. Charles Burr Ogden, Ph.D. Published/Created: Philadelphia, Printed by J.B. Lippincott company, 1907. Related Names: Van Alstyne, Lawrence, b. 1839, ed. Ogden, Charles Burr, 1855- joint ed. Description: xii, [2], 531, [1] p. col. front., illus., plates, ports., map, facsims. 28 cm. Notes: Title within ornamental border. Subjects: Ogden family (John Ogden, 1609-1682) LC Copy: CS71.O34 1907a [Charts comp. by] Lawrence Van Alstyne. New Haven, Conn. The Tuttle, Morehouse & Taylor press, [1907] 38 fold. genealogical tables, 27 cm. CALL NUMBER: CS71.O34 1907 ......[ONLINE version at http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/default.aspx?dbid=21086 Best genealogy of OGDENs of NJ. Page 323a biography of principal author William Ogden Wheeler (1837-1900)-- nephew of Chicago mayor & RR developer William Butler Ogden (1805-1877)-- who was one of the wealthiest 19th century Americans and who presumably financed Wheeler's lifelong Ogden research. (Also page 438 includes partly incorrect info on JQM's great-great-grandfather Jonathan Megie, 1792-1877-- actually a son of Ezekiel Megie (1758-1826, a Rev War vet) and Zurviah Woodruff (1766-1844), formerly of 910 Magie Ave. [ca. 1790, extant though much altered], Elizabeth, NJ)-- JQM.] -------------------------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Butler_Ogden William Butler Ogden (June 15, 1805 - August 3, 1877) was the first Mayor of Chicago. Ogden was born in Walton [Delaware County], New York. When still a teenager, his father died and Ogden took over the family real estate business.....Ogden was a leading promoter and investor in the Illinois and Michigan Canal, then switched his loyalty to railroads. Throughout his later life, Ogden was heavily involved in the building several railroads [including the Chicago & NorthWestern and the Union Pacific]. ---------------------------------------------- ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.