___________________________________________ Subj: [NJUNION] 1656 Map Date: 3/30/2007 4:18:26 P.M. CDT From: a.d.buckingham@verizon.net To: njunion@rootsweb.com, njessex@rootsweb.com .... Hello All, I just came across a 1656 map of NJ that may be of interest to some of you. I scanned it and put it online at _http://www.midatlanticarchives.com_ (http://www.midatlanticarchives.com) ..... ___________________________________________ To Alan et al. from John (in metro Chicago)--> I continue to feel that your scanning and placing online of old maps and books is a very fine contribution to genealogy However, as I already said to you privately a few months ago, Alan, if you fail to give us a few clues as to where you found these maps or fail to provide the correct titles (also original publication dates) of the books you scanned, I feel the value of your contribution is substantially reduced-- or essentially lost. How can we find books in your website that you list only by SUBTITLES (typically publication series numbers) that may well be correct, but that reveal NOTHING about the book's subject matter. Based on Dave Kane's recent post, maybe your scanned 1656 NJ map (http://www.midatlanticarchives.com/maps_nj_statewide/new_jersey_1656.html) is directly from a redrawn version in the Jeremiah Johnson book of 1850. If not, WHERE?? Incidentally, Adrian Van der Donck may have been a knowledgeable guy. But his 1656 map seems to me to treat the important Delaware River incorrectly as an alternate southwestern outlet of the Hudson River-- seemingly very odd for a late date like 1656. I note also that the confluence of the Delaware & the Schuykill properly does NOT show Philadelphia, which after all was not founded until 1682. Alan's odd title: "Collections of the New Jersey Historical Society Vol. III." Why not more properly title this instead as " Provincial Courts of NJ, with Sketches of the Bench & Bar (1849)", in line with the US Library of Congress catalog-- see below. Alan's odd title: "Collections of the New Jersey Historical Society Vol. IX." Why not title this instead as "NJ Biographical & Genealogical Notes (1916)", see below. A few more JQM notes: the latter book would appear to offer more to the genealogist. However, I get the impression that most people listed in the 1916 volume have NJ roots other than in northeastern NJ. Also, as I pointed out to Alan when he announced he was beginning to scan the 1916 volume, Ancestry.com (Alan was unaware of this then) already offers an online scanned version of this (see http://ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=4558)-- apparently a database created via an automated OCR scanning of the original 1916 book. Alan's version is actually much BETTER, I think-- also more error-proof-- because it duplicates the actual 1916 pages as originally printed. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First_ (http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First) Database: LIBRARY OF CONGRESS Online Catalog _______________________ Author: Field, Richard Stockton, 1803-1870. Main Title: The provincial courts of New Jersey : with sketches of the bench and bar.... Published/Created: New York : Published for the Society by Bartlett & Welford, 1849. Description: xi, 311 p. ; 23 cm. Notes: Includes index. Subjects: Courts--New Jersey--History. New Jersey--Politics and government--To 1775. Series: Collections of the New Jersey Historical Society ; v. III LC Classification: F131 .N62 vol. 3 LC Copy: F137 .F62 Other System No.: (OCoLC) 5786427 _______________________ Author: Nelson, William, 1847-1914. Main Title: New Jersey biographical and genealogical notes from the volumes of the New Jersey archives, with additions and supplements. Published/Created: Newark, N.J., 1916. Description: 2 p. l., 222 p. 23 cm. Subjects: New Jersey--Biography. New Jersey--Genealogy. Series: Collections of the New Jersey historical society, vol. IX LC Classification: F131 .N62 vol. 9 Other System No.: (OCoLC) 3746005 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.